⚽ English Premier League Season: 2024/2025

[Phoenix Anka]

But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.

I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

[JollyGood]

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I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

[Igebotz]

But their is another serious story trending in social media and national newspapers that the former Chelsea Midfielder, Mike Obi said, he will still work Victor Osimhen out from Galatasaray to Chelsea and he really wants Osimhen to join Chelsea. And I don't know how possible is that.

Osimhen respects Mikel, but there is little he can do if Chelsea do not improve their initial offer. Mikel understands how the football business works, and he will not encourage a fellow countryman to accept less than his market value. Chelsea must improve their initial offer to make it work.

The Osimhen deal already spark ownership controversy at the club

[Mate2237]

But their is another serious story trending in social media and national newspapers that the former Chelsea Midfielder, Mike Obi said, he will still work Victor Osimhen out from Galatasaray to Chelsea and he really wants Osimhen to join Chelsea. And I don't know how possible is that.

Osimhen respects Mikel, but there is little he can do if Chelsea do not improve their initial offer. Mikel understands how the football business works, and he will not encourage a fellow countryman to accept less than his market value. Chelsea must improve their initial offer to make it work.

The Osimhen deal already spark ownership controversy at the club

Okay, thanks for the details explanation but now that Osimhen has accepted another club offer and the transfer window is about to close, will he accept the Chelsea offer again when he has already accepted another club offer? Frankly speaking I was thinking that Osimhen would joined Chelsea because the news was trending everywhere in the country and Facebook carry the story on it head. And finally Victor Osimhen went to another club and Obi is saying that Osimhen will.co.e back again, well as you said if the offer is satisfied then nothing is impossible because even Galatasaray, he is on loan.

But I don't think that is good for his reputation as an international footballer.

[Alpha Marine]

I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

the offer that Chelsea made to Osimhen was insulting in a way. They won't offer European players in Osimhens level that kind of deal, so why offer it to him? 150k  a week for Osimhen is poor if we're being honest. I feel Chelsea thought because he has been alienated by Napoli he will be desperate to accept anything that comes his way. It's a good thing he didn't accept that contract and a good thing he didn't go to Saudi either. He's just 25 and has a lot of years to play.
now at Galaterserey, he has the opportunity to prove himself and increase his value because part of the reason he didn't have many offers was because of the average season he had with Napoli. If he can excel on loan he will receive better offers

[JollyGood]

Moving on from the fact Chelsea somehow failed in their attempt to sign Osimhen either permanently or on loan, there are big problems being reported at Chelsea. It seems the owners have fallen out and are trying to take control of the club from each other.

One of the problems that has manifested is Boehly stating he did not want to sack Pochettino but decided to because the sporting directors recommended it and Clearlake Capital were accepting it. I guess Boehly wants control because he alone wants to be behind every key decision.

Boehly, Walter and Wyss own under 13% cent each of Chelsea shares but in total they own 38.5% of Chelsea. The other 61.5% of shares are owned by Eghbali and Feliciano through their company Clearlake Capital. What has strongly been reported is that Boehly apparently has a group of investors ready and waiting to buy out Clearlake Capital because he made it clear his consortium will not sell their minority shares to Clearlake Captital.

In business it is not uncommon for a minority shareholder to buy out a larger shareholder but I am not sure how this one will end.

[Igebotz]

One of the problems that has manifested is Boehly stating he did not want to sack Pochettino but decided to because the sporting directors recommended it and Clearlake Capital were accepting it. I guess Boehly wants control because he alone wants to be behind every key decision.

I believe it is the other way around; Tood Boehly brought in Poch, and Clearlake Capital was not confident in him from the start; they wanted someone else, but Todd was able to convince them otherwise. Reason Todd was removed from direct player and club deals.

Another issue was signing Sterling for £300k only to loan him to a rival while we still pay more than 70% of his salary.

Boehly, Walter and Wyss own under 13% cent each of Chelsea but in total they own 38.5% of Chelsea. The other 61.5% of shares are owned by Eghbali and Feliciano through their company Clearlake Capital. What has strongly been reported is that Boehly apparently has a group of investors ready and waiting to buy out Clearlake Capital because he made it clear his consortium will not sell their minority shares to Clearlake Captital.

Todd Boehly and co can't call a shot on this unless Eghbali and co decides to walk away. Both can't sell their shares to third party in the next 10 years but can trade shares among themselves.

[Distraction]

There is a Tottenham - Arsenal match at the weekend. I think that it is the biggest event in the PL this week.    Do you think Tottenham stand a chance against Arsenal here?

I have checked the head-to-head matches. Tottenham can't defeat Arsenal for 4 matches. No matter it is away or home. I can't say they started this season better than the last one either. But both teams here can score goals easily. If I bet probably my choice would be both teams to score.    But if I bet on a side here, I would prefer Arsenal truthfully. I see them still strong with Arteta. If only they signed a striker like Gyökeres also...

[Zackz5000]

I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

the offer that Chelsea made to Osimhen was insulting in a way. They won't offer European players in Osimhens level that kind of deal, so why offer it to him? 150k  a week for Osimhen is poor if we're being honest. I feel Chelsea thought because he has been alienated by Napoli he will be desperate to accept anything that comes his way. It's a good thing he didn't accept that contract and a good thing he didn't go to Saudi either. He's just 25 and has a lot of years to play.
now at Galaterserey, he has the opportunity to prove himself and increase his value because part of the reason he didn't have many offers was because of the average season he had with Napoli. If he can excel on loan he will receive better offers

That offer to the Nigeria international Victor Osimhen by Chelsea was really an insult to a player like victor Osimhen exactly as you said they thought he will desperate to leave since SSC Napoli never wanted him at the club again despite helping them to win the Italian Seria A trophy also won the league top scorer I believe Chelsea offered him that amount because he is an English player or because he is black.
And also concerning the Saudi club offer he rejected I believe because he still wanted to achieve more in football before to Saudi Arabia to play football the formal super eagle captain and player Austin JJ Okocha advised Victor Osimhen to accept the Saudi club offer that achievement and trophies won't put food on his table since the Saudi club offer is huge. If I were Victor Osimhen I will accept the Saudi club offer played there 4 years and still return to Europe.

[JollyGood]

Here is what was attributed to Boehly by Sky Sports but there is nothing there about what else happened. I have not read a single report about Clearlake Capital not being happy about Sterling going out on loan or about his salary. Furthermore, the same applies to the hiring and/or sacking of Pochettino.

If both parties want to take over the club they have to win over the fans therefore their respective PR teams will probably start putting stories out there from now until one party owns 100% of shares. Maybe during the course of the PR war we might understand exactly what happened in key moments and why.

One of the problems that has manifested is Boehly stating he did not want to sack Pochettino but decided to because the sporting directors recommended it and Clearlake Capital were accepting it. I guess Boehly wants control because he alone wants to be behind every key decision.

I believe it is the other way around; Tood Boehly brought in Poch, and Clearlake Capital was not confident in him from the start; they wanted someone else, but Todd was able to convince them otherwise. Reason Todd was removed from direct player and club deals.

Another issue was signing Sterling for £300k only to loan him to a rival while we still pay more than 70% of his salary.

[Igebotz]

Here is what was attributed to Boehly by Sky Sports but there is nothing there about what else happened. I have no read a single report about Clearlake Capital not being happy about Sterling going out on loan or about his salary.  Furthermore, the same applies to the hiring and/or sacking of Pochettino.

If both parties want to take over the club they have to win over the fans therefore their respective PR teams will probably start putting stories out there from now until one party owns 100% of shares. Maybe during the course of the PR war we might understand exactly what happened in key moments and why.

Sky sports didn't do much justice to what's happening at the club, those were only shallow explanations Here is all you need to know, it contains every bit of information from a neutral stand.

[Adams0001]

There is a Tottenham - Arsenal match at the weekend. I think that it is the biggest event in the PL this week.    Do you think Tottenham stand a chance against Arsenal here?

I have checked the head-to-head matches. Tottenham can't defeat Arsenal for 4 matches. No matter it is away or home. I can't say they started this season better than the last one either. But both teams here can score goals easily. If I bet probably my choice would be both teams to score.    But if I bet on a side here, I would prefer Arsenal truthfully. I see them still strong with Arteta. If only they signed a striker like Gyökeres also...

You can't predict what will happen because we are in a new season and Tottenham are playing at home, so I can't predict the game, and I am sure Arsenal will do everything they can to defeat Tottenham because they want to win the Premier League this time, they have lost several times before, and I believe they are doing everything they can to win this time, and I believe some of their players are injured, so I believe he will have an impact on them in the match this weekend. Head-to-head meetings are excellent that Arsenal will win the game, but you don't know if Tottenham will try anything possible to halt the record this time, and I want Arsenal to win the match and Tottenham need the trophy too. Because he has been with the team for a long time, they won a trophy, which caused Harry Kane to leave the team and move to Bayern Munich because he hasn't had much luck with the club, and he has played one season with Munich but has yet to score any goals. Let's see how the competition plays out and if Arsenal will win Tottenham and still win Manchester City, giving them a chance to win the Premier League.

[KTChampions]

But if Osimhen wanted, he would have already agreed to a pay cut and gone to Chelsea. The only reason he is not at Chelsea is because he does not agree to reduce his salary even by a dollar. At Napoli, he gets 12 million a year, Chelsea offered him some shady scheme with the main part (4 million) and a bonus (another 4). Obviously, Osimhen was not satisfied with this. Maybe Osimhen can give in and agree to a salary cut, but certainly not such a strong (and murky) one.

I think Chelsea made him an offer that was less than he was worth. Why would he sign for much less than what he got at Napoli? Also Osimhen is not a low quality player. I think he has the talent to demand the salary he wants. I think it's a loss for Chelsea.

Chelsea's game was pretty simple: cheaply get a player who has no options (as it seemed at the time) and who risks being left without game practice. But Osimhen had the balls to beat everyone.
By the way, I saw Mourinho's opinion about Osimhen - he considers him a player of the level of Drogba/Salah with one flaw - Osimhen dives too much. Even with that caveat, it's a high mark and I agree that Chelsea have lost out by failing to get this deal done.

[nelson4lov]

There is a Tottenham - Arsenal match at the weekend. I think that it is the biggest event in the PL this week.    Do you think Tottenham stand a chance against Arsenal here?

I have checked the head-to-head matches. Tottenham can't defeat Arsenal for 4 matches. No matter it is away or home. I can't say they started this season better than the last one either. But both teams here can score goals easily. If I bet probably my choice would be both teams to score.    But if I bet on a side here, I would prefer Arsenal truthfully.

~Snipped

My money is definitely going to Arsenal. Tottenham doesn't have a bad start to the season amd I have watched their Everton game where they played really well and scored beautiful goals but against a team like Arsenal? They even lost to Newcastle just before the international break.

Something to keep in mind though — Arsenal will be playing against Tottenham without Declan rice. I believe that should count. Also, it appears Odegaard was injured during the international break too. I'm still inclined to go with arsenal but that decision is still subject to change.

[JollyGood]

After reading through the whole article in the link you provided regarding the power struggle that is ensuing at Chelsea, it is clear Sky Sports condensed their own report to the point where important and extensive information was left out. Even after reading the article I cannot understand why Boehly is absolutely convinced his consortium will buy out Clearlake Capital.

I think it more likely Chelsea fans would accept him as the public face of the company (rather than any of the other investors including Eghbali or Feliciano) but in business matters especially where USD$ billions are concerned, highly unlikely alliances and/or strange outcomes are quite common.

Sky sports didn't do much justice to what's happening at the club, those were only shallow explanations Here is all you need to know, it contains every bit of information from a neutral stand.

[Miles2006]

There is a Tottenham - Arsenal match at the weekend. I think that it is the biggest event in the PL this week.    Do you think Tottenham stand a chance against Arsenal here?

I have checked the head-to-head matches. Tottenham can't defeat Arsenal for 4 matches. No matter it is away or home. I can't say they started this season better than the last one either. But both teams here can score goals easily. If I bet probably my choice would be both teams to score.    But if I bet on a side here, I would prefer Arsenal truthfully. I see them still strong with Arteta. If only they signed a striker like Gyökeres also...

I also will predict Arsenal always against Tottenham, the problem Arsenal is having now aside the urgent need of a striker few active players will not be present including Odegaard and his absence can affect the team because Arteta use him regular most times FT. I always trust Arteta to come out with new strategy so I will not be surprised if he reshuffle the players and their key role, mere watching at Arsenal previous performance against Brighton despite the absence of Rice they brought out their best and it seems Riccardo Calafiori is a good player from my observation.

[JollyGood]

I had to read through your post a couple of times to understand the latter part since it is a little incoherent but I think I understood your main point about Arsenal will win against Tottenham. Well, first of all it is a local derby and has a history of deep rivalry therefore anything can happen. Arsenal go in to the game as clear favourites but Tottenham had a difficult start to the season with a W1 D1 L1 record from their opening three games therefore they will be trying to cause an upset and they will have home advantage too.

Arsenal will know the results of the Manchester City and Liverpool Saturday games before they kick-off against Tottenham therefore the importance of a win or a draw will be evident to them before they travel away for that anticipated game on Sunday.

I also will predict Arsenal always against Tottenham, the problem Arsenal is having now aside the urgent need of a striker few active players will not be present including Odegaard and his absence can affect the team because Arteta use him regular most times FT. I always trust Arteta to come out with new strategy so I will not be surprised if he reshuffle the players and their key role, mere watching at Arsenal previous performance against Brighton despite the absence of Rice they brought out their best and it seems Riccardo Calafiori is a good player from my observation.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

By the way, I saw Mourinho's opinion about Osimhen - he considers him a player of the level of Drogba/Salah with one flaw - Osimhen dives too much. Even with that caveat, it's a high mark and I agree that Chelsea have lost out by failing to get this deal done.

Mourinho should let him be, he's being foul too much so what does he expect him to do. Not dives and risk getting injured always? Osimhen is strong, have you seen him play. He guides the ball and struggles with defenders often so him driving at times should be no biggie. Maybe mourinho was speaking from the aspect of playing against him because he's the only one I think I have heard him saying Osimhen dives too much.

I also will predict Arsenal always against Tottenham, the problem Arsenal is having now aside the urgent need of a striker few active players will not be present including Odegaard and his absence can affect the team because Arteta use him regular most times FT.

Injuries problems everywhere for Arsenal, Tottenham being at home too so Arsenal won't find it easy to win but I have to side with you on this on, Arsenal for the win. Arteta needs to win early derby like this to proven he's ready to challenge for the title this time. Arsenal not winning should end in a draw but not a lost. The injuries are the only concerns right now but I know Arteta will sorts things out and use other players until the injured players return.

[Igebotz]

After reading through the whole article in the link you provided regarding the power struggle that is ensuing at Chelsea, it is clear Sky Sports condensed their own report to the point where important and extensive information was left out. Even after reading the article I cannot understand why Boehly is absolutely convinced his consortium will buy out Clearlake Capital.

I think it more likely Chelsea fans would accept him as the public face of the company (rather than any of the other investors including Eghbali or Feliciano) but in business matters especially where USD$ billions are concerned, highly unlikely alliances and/or strange outcomes are quite common.

Todd Boehly holds the highest individual share at 13%, while Eghbali, the Clearlake Capital representative, holds individual 2%. If Todd Boehly is able to persuade Clearlake Capital investors to sell their shares for a profit, it will work out. Another option is to persuade Clearlake Capital investors to remove Eghbali and allow the club to hire a football CEO to run the club's activities as he sees fit.

[tokeweed]

Moving on from the fact Chelsea somehow failed in their attempt to sign Osimhen either permanently or on loan, there are big problems being reported at Chelsea. It seems the owners have fallen out and are trying to take control of the club from each other.

One of the problems that has manifested is Boehly stating he did not want to sack Pochettino but decided to because the sporting directors recommended it and Clearlake Capital were accepting it. I guess Boehly wants control because he alone wants to be behind every key decision.

Boehly, Walter and Wyss own under 13% cent each of Chelsea shares but in total they own 38.5% of Chelsea. The other 61.5% of shares are owned by Eghbali and Feliciano through their company Clearlake Capital. What has strongly been reported is that Boehly apparently has a group of investors ready and waiting to buy out Clearlake Capital because he made it clear his consortium will not sell their minority shares to Clearlake Captital.

In business it is not uncommon for a minority shareholder to buy out a larger shareholder but I am not sure how this one will end.

Hmm...  And it's not gonna look good if they're gonna lose their next match vs 'lowly' Bournemouth which I think could win esp if we look at how Chelsea doesn't really all that good rn.  I think they need an 'enforcer' in the midfield.  A guy who commits tactical fouls to stop the opposing club's momentum during an offensive build up.

But yeah, I'm looking at Bournemouth or draw double chance and both teams to score combo at 2.35.  Double chance doesn't pay much at 1.78 or something and so does BTTS and over 2.5 goals.