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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them.
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Well, Casimero and Inoue would be a great fight, this is one of the things that excites me the most, because there is already a previous challenge here, if things are like that then they should happen, personally , I think that things in boxing are very simple , there must be rematches without the need for this looking for clauses, because the boxers themselves must always be in action and without so much begging, now I give a good positive sense to Spence who finally Accepted the fight with Crawford , and this is something that he is in favor of the sport and in favor of what things should really move in boxing , with the sense of Healthy rivalry and not Being with so much.
Since his quest to take the chance to fight Inoue, he hasn't lost and he fought very well in his last fight motivated to get the chance again in the future but it seems like the decision will be made after Inoue will successfully defeat his opponent in this upcoming fight and hope that it will be Casimero next because both fighters really need to prove their claim and to do that, the answer is just one fight and it won't really matter which place as long as they gonna make it happen right now before it's too late when one of them cannot fight anymore. I want to see that fight, if it happens between Inoue and Casimero it will be something that everyone will be waiting for, this Inoue boxer for many is an example that the dark can happen when you have talent and train for it, we could say that Inoue is the sensation for now , not everyone gives up all their belts to move up a category, this is something I admire and from there one can intuit that this type of boxer cares about emerging, those belts, the triumphs come alone, there is no way to look for them if you lose, If you keep the focus on that sport you could say that you have the world at your feet. Everyone is talking about Inoue, from so much speculation it has been said that Fulton himself is quite anxious to give him that fight for Inoue, according to him he is the ideal boxer for the fight, I don't know how confident he is, but he also You must remember that it is against Inoue, and if so, that fight will be very interesting, because I cannot deny that Inoue is a very complete boxer and since he is starting out in a new category, he wants to start with very good ppie, I cannot imagine how the preparation can be from Inoue, but it must be on another level.
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. It will be an unfortunate news for the fans all over the globe if ever the unification fight between the two champions will not happen. I can already tell that the negotiations are going to be rough because none of them is willing to give up the right to organize the fight because it will be a big event that will surely generate them a lot of money. And if things goes worse, Bob Arum should pave a way because Beterbiev is not getting any younger as he is already 38 years old and a couple of years from now, he will have to retire.
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July 06, 2023, 09:01:04 PM |
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. It's going to be a tug of war between the two, but if fights like Spence and Crawford could be set, then most likely they should step aside their difference and sit down. Maybe they just really hate each other and if that is the reason, then the real loser will be the fans. Beterbiev still looks good even at his age and he could still fight, but certainly a fighter will have to slow down and maybe it's going to be too late when father time caught up with him. If that is the case then if might not be good to see this fight happening 2-3 years from now.
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Eddie Hearn officially announced that Joshua will fight Whyte for the second time, https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-vs-dillian-whyte-rematch-official-august-12-o2-london--175926So it will be on O2 arena, time for Joshua to get back on track here on Aug 12. And probably the winner, and for sure Hearn is hoping that it will be Joshua, so that the fight with Wilder can be setup in December in Saudi Arabia, where there is a lot of money going to flow for sure, hehehe.
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It might take sometime though as Canelo has bolted out of Matchroom. And so Bivol will have to move on and fine another fighter and not just solely chase Canelo. He could defend his belt and continue at 175 lbs. Of course, there is also a unification fight in the horizon for him with Arthur Beterbiev. So there's a lot of opportunity for him in the future. The unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev is not yet on the horizon as long as the war between Ukraine and Russia persist because the sanctioning bodies are not that inclined to make the fight into reality, right now, it has been said that Bivol is arranging his information so that he will not be connected in any Russian conflicts as that will give some halt in his careers, just like the Bivol vs Canelo fight, it's been said that up until now, the paycheck is still not on his hands. Canelo as well will have his one fight this September. What's interesting is who will be his next opponent as there are news that it might be another Mexican in David Benavidez. And this want fight fans is hoping for May next year. Hopefully that will happen so that we can see that real abilities of the kid infront of the undisputed champion and so that there will be no speculation that Canelo is ducking the uprising star that will soon replace his title at SMW. And of course, so that the kid will be given the chance of a lifetime as he earned his place to be the next foe of Canelo. Only Bivol is affected though, but if they can have Bivol vs Canelo during the war then why stopping him from fighting again? Politics shouldn't meddle in. the sports in my opinion. Beterbiev is already fighting as a Canadian, just for your info. He has a Canadian citizenship, https://www.sportsmanor.com/boxing-news-artur-beterbiev-nationality-is-he-canadian-or-russian/The one that has been holding up this fight is their manager, Beterbiev is with Top Rank, under Bob Arum, and then Bivol with Match Room and Eddie Hearn. This two promotional manager is having a verbal war in the public. https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-united-states-eddie-hearn-considered-joke--170936https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-hits-back-bob-arum-top-rank-completely-finished-espn-contract-gone--174959I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else. For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing. That's what I'm trying to say, it's the boxing politics that's the main issue with this fight and we might not see a unification soon. Unless Bivol goes to Top Rank or Beterbiev moves out of Match Room and jump ship to TR. For the HW clash, I think it's going to be a big test for AJ here, but I think Whyte is no longer in his prime and so AJ will have the perfect fight to bring his confidence back. And it could be true that Eddie Hearn is cherry picking Whyte for a potential AJ vs Deontay Wilder in the future.
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. I think Bivol might have another fight for this year, I have to say this, but after a huge win against Canelo and then Ramirez, he hasn't followed it up for the second half of the year. It could be that he really wanted to have a rematch with Canelo but the money wasn't there for him. So he has to move on for now and forget that payment, he needs to defend his belt. And if the unification fights come in, then good for him. So Beterbiev also wanted to have this fight. But the decision is still going to be in the hands of their promoters, to sit down and talk. If they don't want to because they have their own personal wars or what not, then this fight will be on the shelves for years.
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. It will be an unfortunate news for the fans all over the globe if ever the unification fight between the two champions will not happen. I can already tell that the negotiations are going to be rough because none of them is willing to give up the right to organize the fight because it will be a big event that will surely generate them a lot of money. And if things goes worse, Bob Arum should pave a way because Beterbiev is not getting any younger as he is already 38 years old and a couple of years from now, he will have to retire. Yeah right, if both handlers will not show any interest to settle the possibilities of these fight then it's unfortunate for all the fans as they won't be able to witness this unification fight between these two champs, more on money matter and who will adjust just to allow the fight to take place, or maybe if there are many fans to show interest and bring a huge noise inside SocMed. The chance that both handlers will negotiate and try to settle things out just to make that huge paycheck depends on how they talk and how they will close the deal.
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July 08, 2023, 02:34:50 PM |
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. It will be an unfortunate news for the fans all over the globe if ever the unification fight between the two champions will not happen. I can already tell that the negotiations are going to be rough because none of them is willing to give up the right to organize the fight because it will be a big event that will surely generate them a lot of money. And if things goes worse, Bob Arum should pave a way because Beterbiev is not getting any younger as he is already 38 years old and a couple of years from now, he will have to retire. Yeah right, if both handlers will not show any interest to settle the possibilities of these fight then it's unfortunate for all the fans as they won't be able to witness this unification fight between these two champs, more on money matter and who will adjust just to allow the fight to take place, or maybe if there are many fans to show interest and bring a huge noise inside SocMed. The chance that both handlers will negotiate and try to settle things out just to make that huge paycheck depends on how they talk and how they will close the deal. I guess Bob Arum will surrender the rights to Eddie Hearn if things will not go in his way because if this fight will not happen, Beterbiev will have to vacate the three belts that he is holding upon retirement without having the undisputed fight and most likely, it's Bivol who will have those in the next few years after someone will possess it. About the hype surrounding about this future undisputed fight, both names involved in it have been making some noise in the past few months especially Bivol for upsetting Canelo and who wouldn't know about Beterbiev in LHW that got a 100% KO rate. So, it's safe to say that the fight will generate decent profits but not really comparable to the undisputed fight in super-welterweight division that we will soon see.
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I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.
For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.
Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here. They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them. It will be an unfortunate news for the fans all over the globe if ever the unification fight between the two champions will not happen. I can already tell that the negotiations are going to be rough because none of them is willing to give up the right to organize the fight because it will be a big event that will surely generate them a lot of money. And if things goes worse, Bob Arum should pave a way because Beterbiev is not getting any younger as he is already 38 years old and a couple of years from now, he will have to retire. Yeah right, if both handlers will not show any interest to settle the possibilities of these fight then it's unfortunate for all the fans as they won't be able to witness this unification fight between these two champs, more on money matter and who will adjust just to allow the fight to take place, or maybe if there are many fans to show interest and bring a huge noise inside SocMed. The chance that both handlers will negotiate and try to settle things out just to make that huge paycheck depends on how they talk and how they will close the deal. I guess Bob Arum will surrender the rights to Eddie Hearn if things will not go in his way because if this fight will not happen, Beterbiev will have to vacate the three belts that he is holding upon retirement without having the undisputed fight and most likely, it's Bivol who will have those in the next few years after someone will possess it. About the hype surrounding about this future undisputed fight, both names involved in it have been making some noise in the past few months especially Bivol for upsetting Canelo and who wouldn't know about Beterbiev in LHW that got a 100% KO rate. So, it's safe to say that the fight will generate decent profits but not really comparable to the undisputed fight in super-welterweight division that we will soon see. Bob Arum doing that kind of thing when in-fact he already have the right to dictate and demand because they are on the A-side is quite unheard of. But I see your point, it will be pointless if he will argue and make the fight much longer if ever the sanctioning bodies will give the green light because instead of getting some profits out of it, he cannot generate something if a fight will not exist.
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Bob Arum doing that kind of thing when in-fact he already have the right to dictate and demand because they are on the A-side is quite unheard of. But I see your point, it will be pointless if he will argue and make the fight much longer if ever the sanctioning bodies will give the green light because instead of getting some profits out of it, he cannot generate something if a fight will not exist.
On that side, where Beterbiev is already close to retirement, maybe the chance of surrendering the right might take place, Bob Arum is a well-known money maker person he will do everything to suck all the money that he can deal with, as for the possibilities, he may rather give the right to Hearn and let them negotiate to make sure that there's still money that he can collect, but then again it will be depends from how these two handlers will communicate and close the deal, updates will be provided for sure, once there's a negotiation that take place between Beterbiev and Bivol's camps.
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July 08, 2023, 09:57:38 PM |
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Bob Arum doing that kind of thing when in-fact he already have the right to dictate and demand because they are on the A-side is quite unheard of. But I see your point, it will be pointless if he will argue and make the fight much longer if ever the sanctioning bodies will give the green light because instead of getting some profits out of it, he cannot generate something if a fight will not exist.
On that side, where Beterbiev is already close to retirement, maybe the chance of surrendering the right might take place, Bob Arum is a well-known money maker person he will do everything to suck all the money that he can deal with, as for the possibilities, he may rather give the right to Hearn and let them negotiate to make sure that there's still money that he can collect, but then again it will be depends from how these two handlers will communicate and close the deal, updates will be provided for sure, once there's a negotiation that take place between Beterbiev and Bivol's camps. To be fair, all these promoters are business minded and will squeeze as much money if a fighter is not managed well. But I do consider Eddie Hearn, the youngest of the Big 4 as the most open-minded and willing to work with anyone. Although it is weird why there are so many talks about the issue of making Beterbiev-Bivol when it is a fact that the former has 3 belts compared to 1. So if Bivol is that determined, he should tell his promoters and DAZN to let ESPN and Top Rank do the job. Bivol just needs to make sure the fight is not happening in Canada and Texas, and maybe he can also demand to have the approval of the ring officials. Maybe it is not Hearn unwilling here but DAZN itself. The sanctioning bodies have zero to very little power since they are not supposed to issue mandatories to their champions against fighters that are already world champions. Unless the sanctioning bodies secretly talk to each other and agree unanimously to do something like when the WBC mandated its champion Canelo to face GGG who was at that time also the WBA and IBF champion. Still very unlikely, because even these 4 sanctioning bodies are very sensitive with each other and besides they also do not want to put pressure on these giant networks and promoters.
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July 08, 2023, 11:30:33 PM |
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As a result of Ortiz Jr not able to fight Eimantas Stanionis as a mandatory challenger to Stanionis WBA belt, the world body has approved unanimously that Eimantas Stanionis now can choose any fighter that he wants to defend his belt.
Although he should also be in line with Spence WBA belt as both are holding it right now, but due to complications like Spence vs Crawford fight and a rematch in the horizon, Spence can't fulfill that.
The only name that I'm seeing in the WBA rankings are:
Vergil Ortiz - removed Shakhram Giyasov Keith Thurman Radzhab Butaev - he already lost to Stanionis Yordenis Ugas
So Shelly Finkel will have to decide, money wise it could either be Keith Thurman or Ugas next for Stanionis.
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July 08, 2023, 11:41:22 PM |
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For me, this is just a pick fight for Anthony Joshua so he can get some confidence going with Deontay Wilder but I can not be so sure if this is going to be a run-on-the-mill fight for Joshua they have to fight back on December 12, 2015, so both boxers can surely improve much Anthony Joshua could have some really sick moves now after his loss to Oleksandr Usyk, for me his issue with Oleksandr Usyk, and Andy Ruiz Jr. was the speed they both outspeed Anthony Joshua he just won over Andy Ruiz Jr. because he caught Ruiz with that a nasty cut on round 1 this has slowed Ruiz then manage to catch him on round 7, but for me, Whyte doesn't have those so it might be a great fight for Anthony Joshua getting into the fight That's what I'm trying to say, it's the boxing politics that's the main issue with this fight and we might not see a unification soon. Unless Bivol goes to Top Rank or Beterbiev moves out of Match Room and jump ship to TR.
For the HW clash, I think it's going to be a big test for AJ here, but I think Whyte is no longer in his prime and so AJ will have the perfect fight to bring his confidence back. And it could be true that Eddie Hearn is cherry picking Whyte for a potential AJ vs Deontay Wilder in the future.
I really wish there is no more politics and what so ever moving on with this fight it was really a bummer getting this fight on the table while many have seen that the fans really want to see this fight for me this is one of those fights that we might not see because of that politics thing between the 2 boxers and I really hate that and yup I also hate the cherry picking fight of Eddie Hearn for Anthony Joshua on Dillian Whyte, it is a true cherry picking situation but Whyte will surely want this because even if he lost Anthony Joshua is a great cash for him and if he's able to get a good punch on him maybe he could end up winning aswell so he might get the cash and the W for this fight but I really doubted that,
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July 09, 2023, 03:41:33 AM |
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As a result of Ortiz Jr not able to fight Eimantas Stanionis as a mandatory challenger to Stanionis WBA belt, the world body has approved unanimously that Eimantas Stanionis now can choose any fighter that he wants to defend his belt.
Although he should also be in line with Spence WBA belt as both are holding it right now, but due to complications like Spence vs Crawford fight and a rematch in the horizon, Spence can't fulfill that.
The only name that I'm seeing in the WBA rankings are:
Vergil Ortiz - removed Shakhram Giyasov Keith Thurman Radzhab Butaev - he already lost to Stanionis Yordenis Ugas
So Shelly Finkel will have to decide, money wise it could either be Keith Thurman or Ugas next for Stanionis.
Of course, Giyasov should be given priority as he is rank higher than Thurman and Ugas, but we know it's about boxing politics. Both of their names ring a bell and under Al Haymon, so for sure either could be a good fighter next in line for Stanionis. I like Ugas though, I mean he was supposedly fight Stanionis, but he went to fight Spence first and we all know that he lost on that fight. So he should be given priority now to fight Stanionis for the belt.
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July 09, 2023, 04:46:50 AM |
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For the Floyd Schofield vs. Haskell Rhodes, easy win for Schofield here, as he scored 3 knockdowns, but he wasn't able to knockout Rhodes for good. And the judges score it as a shutdown as 3 of them got it 100-87.
This should be the Eimantas Stanionis-Vergil Ortiz Jr. WBA ‘Regular’ welterweight title fight. But we all know that Ortiz suffered another health issues that's why the fight can cancel for good as this is the 3rd postponement of the fight and it seems that Ortiz Jr can't really fight in the future of his his medical conditions.
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July 09, 2023, 08:20:24 AM |
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We also have the fight between Luis Nery and Filipino Froilan Saludar. But it was not even closed, as the fight ended in just 2 rounds.
We've heard Nery's name popping up with we talked about Casimero as they have seen heated verbal jousting before, years ago when Nery was the 122 lbs champion back then and Casimero wanted to move up to 118 lbs and challenge him.
I think they can make it a go right now, as Casimero is already at 122 lbs. So let's wait and hope that this fight materialized.
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July 09, 2023, 12:24:54 PM |
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We also have the fight between Luis Nery and Filipino Froilan Saludar. But it was not even closed, as the fight ended in just 2 rounds.
We've heard Nery's name popping up with we talked about Casimero as they have seen heated verbal jousting before, years ago when Nery was the 122 lbs champion back then and Casimero wanted to move up to 118 lbs and challenge him.
I think they can make it a go right now, as Casimero is already at 122 lbs. So let's wait and hope that this fight materialized.
That would be a great fight for Casimero, facing a boxer who can truly challenge him or even potentially defeat him. It's exciting to watch fights that are unpredictable. So far, Casimero has won most of his fights easily, so it's time for him to face a boxer where he may be considered the underdog, even if it's not a championship fight yet.
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July 09, 2023, 08:52:08 PM |
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We also have the fight between Luis Nery and Filipino Froilan Saludar. But it was not even closed, as the fight ended in just 2 rounds.
We've heard Nery's name popping up with we talked about Casimero as they have seen heated verbal jousting before, years ago when Nery was the 122 lbs champion back then and Casimero wanted to move up to 118 lbs and challenge him.
I think they can make it a go right now, as Casimero is already at 122 lbs. So let's wait and hope that this fight materialized.
That would be a great fight for Casimero, facing a boxer who can truly challenge him or even potentially defeat him. It's exciting to watch fights that are unpredictable. So far, Casimero has won most of his fights easily, so it's time for him to face a boxer where he may be considered the underdog, even if it's not a championship fight yet. Hopefully this fight can happen in the future, I think Nery wanted to be in the mix for the Fulton vs Inoue result. But we all know that Marlon Tapales is just waiting in the wing and waiting for the winner of that fight and have a 4 belt unification. So Casimero and Nery could be a good contender next, but there could be a lot of positioning as well. It could be in the hands of Casimero's promoter on how they are going to lay Casimero again as this division is also loaded with good fighters and Casimero needed a statement win so that he can be back in the discussion at least for a title fight. It could be against Nery or others in the rankings.
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July 09, 2023, 08:58:23 PM |
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Bob Arum doing that kind of thing when in-fact he already have the right to dictate and demand because they are on the A-side is quite unheard of. But I see your point, it will be pointless if he will argue and make the fight much longer if ever the sanctioning bodies will give the green light because instead of getting some profits out of it, he cannot generate something if a fight will not exist.
On that side, where Beterbiev is already close to retirement, maybe the chance of surrendering the right might take place, Bob Arum is a well-known money maker person he will do everything to suck all the money that he can deal with, as for the possibilities, he may rather give the right to Hearn and let them negotiate to make sure that there's still money that he can collect, but then again it will be depends from how these two handlers will communicate and close the deal, updates will be provided for sure, once there's a negotiation that take place between Beterbiev and Bivol's camps. To be fair, all these promoters are business minded and will squeeze as much money if a fighter is not managed well. But I do consider Eddie Hearn, the youngest of the Big 4 as the most open-minded and willing to work with anyone. Although it is weird why there are so many talks about the issue of making Beterbiev-Bivol when it is a fact that the former has 3 belts compared to 1. So if Bivol is that determined, he should tell his promoters and DAZN to let ESPN and Top Rank do the job. Bivol just needs to make sure the fight is not happening in Canada and Texas, and maybe he can also demand to have the approval of the ring officials. Maybe it is not Hearn unwilling here but DAZN itself. The sanctioning bodies have zero to very little power since they are not supposed to issue mandatories to their champions against fighters that are already world champions. Unless the sanctioning bodies secretly talk to each other and agree unanimously to do something like when the WBC mandated its champion Canelo to face GGG who was at that time also the WBA and IBF champion. Still very unlikely, because even these 4 sanctioning bodies are very sensitive with each other and besides they also do not want to put pressure on these giant networks and promoters. Having Eddie Hearn and Bob Arum on the same path is the least of their problems because that is not the only hurdle to make the undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division into reality. Many have been speculating that it will happen this year, including me, because Bob Arum already gave his statement last year that he will be open to discussion about the undisputed fight if Beterbiev successfully defends his belt against Anthony Yarde. But a few weeks after the fight, the sanctioning bodes also released their own statement mainly the WBC that they will not allow the undisputed fight to happen because Bivol is a Russian boxer and the sanctions right now against him are quite heavy because of the on-going tension between Russia and Ukraine.
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