Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[DaRude]

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Its not about how much money you spend, its what can you buy with that money. Same thing can cost $2 in Bangladesh and $2000 in Luxembourg

Another example, look what USA got for their 2000 billion USD investment in Afghanistan...imagine that unimaginable amount of money
spent in the USA on building infrastructure

But obviously you're brainwashed into thinking that money spent wins the war

That is correct, the multiplier in Ruzzia and China may be larger - despite a dacha here and there - but it is still not even close to an even match.

The money spent in Afghanistan by Ruzzia? Oh, you mean the money spent by US only later on? Well, the problem seemed to be that some groups in there were destroying the infrastructure of the US (e.g. towers and the like) so US had to make sure that the infrastructure was protected.

For example, Ukraine was not destroying anything in Ruzzia, so the invasion money and blood could have been put to a better use in Ruzzia. There was no threat. Now Ruzzia has spent a lot of money while creating a new and very real threat.

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Dec. 16, 2021
NATO Signals Support for Ukraine in Face of Threat From Russia

The military alliance stood by its promise to open a path to Ukrainian membership amid warnings from Western intelligence agencies that Moscow could soon begin a military incursion.
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Ukraine’s president sought security guarantees from NATO’s chief in a meeting on Thursday and came away with a renewed commitment that his country could eventually join the military alliance despite stiff objections from its Russian neighbors.

Yep no threat at all here, we're just bringing cookies with our military alliance to the Russian borders, but god help you if you try to bring a new car with child safety belts to Cuba, we consider that an existential threat to US national security! The world is dumb enough to believe that, right? Oops, shame that articles can't be easily removed from the internet huh?

[paxmao]

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

[DaRude]

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

[paxmao]

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S0q_N1omukM?feature=share

I hope this gives you a hint.

[BADecker]

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Ukraine is essentially dead. If Ukraine quit right now, and if Russia didn't destroy her, Ukraine wouldn't be able to do anything at all to get back on her feet.

Why would China want to end the war? World trade. Peaceful trade with the world is what everybody wants. The problem is that the US wants to control (rape and plunder) it rather than let people and countries be free.

You have a dual personality. You pretend to be an US Texan guy, but it is becoming more and more evident you work for China and have only ill intentions toward the US.

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between the people of the US and the crooks in the US Government. But this is to be expected, because loads of Americans seem to be in favor of Biden, all the while he is destroying them. Your mistake is understandable.

Being a US guy from anywhere in America doesn't mean that I have to like my destruction because government is doing it. You can quote all kinds of people saying all kinds of stuff, but the truth doesn't change because of what you quote people saying.

You know all this, and that is why you direct your frustration at me... because I bring the Ukraine failure out into the open in ways that for some reason hurt your itty-bitty feewings.

Your point that you are trying to hide is that you are in favor of wars and killing. So you support more money for Ukraine. You don't seem to realize that if the US wins, it will really be the banking system that wins. Things take enough time to happen that banking-system-mastery-of-the-world probably won't hurt you, much. But it is hurting a lot of Americans, right now, which is simply a foretaste of what is to come if it conquers Russia and China like it has conquered Ukraine and the US.

[paxmao]

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Ukraine is essentially dead. If Ukraine quit right now, and if Russia didn't destroy her, Ukraine wouldn't be able to do anything at all to get back on her feet.

Why would China want to end the war? World trade. Peaceful trade with the world is what everybody wants. The problem is that the US wants to control (rape and plunder) it rather than let people and countries be free.

You have a dual personality. You pretend to be an US Texan guy, but it is becoming more and more evident you work for China and have only ill intentions toward the US.

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between the people of the US and the crooks in the US Government. But this is to be expected, because loads of Americans seem to be in favor of Biden, all the while he is destroying them. Your mistake is understandable.

Being a US guy from anywhere in America doesn't mean that I have to like my destruction because government is doing it. You can quote all kinds of people saying all kinds of stuff, but the truth doesn't change because of what you quote people saying.

You know all this, and that is why you direct your frustration at me... because I bring the Ukraine failure out into the open in ways that for some reason hurt your itty-bitty feewings.

Your point that you are trying to hide is that you are in favor of wars and killing. So you support more money for Ukraine. You don't seem to realize that if the US wins, it will really be the banking system that wins. Things take enough time to happen that banking-system-mastery-of-the-world probably won't hurt you, much. But it is hurting a lot of Americans, right now, which is simply a foretaste of what is to come if it conquers Russia and China like it has conquered Ukraine and the US.

I hope you are a good singer because you are certainly not to make your living with psychology. Nor with politics... well, nor with math, nor history, nor common sense, nor marketing, nor intuition, nor understanding of people and nations, nor writing ability.
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Yes... let's hope you can sign and make few bucks or yuans from it.

You are not in favour of peace, you are in favour of a surrender that will bring an even worse war in a few years.

[Xal0lex]

paxmao, BADecker, let's stick to the theme of the topic and not get personal. If you want to discuss about each other, go to the Off-Top or Reputation section. I hope for your understanding.

[DaRude]

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S0q_N1omukM?feature=share

I hope this gives you a hint.

Could've posted some videos of Eurovision, would be just as relevant, hope you get the hint. Guess admitting that it all started with the third-highest ranking US diplomat bringing cookies to Ukraine and saying "FUCK THE EU" is too much to bare? Do you know if those cookies were at least tasty?

[BADecker]

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Ukraine is essentially dead. If Ukraine quit right now, and if Russia didn't destroy her, Ukraine wouldn't be able to do anything at all to get back on her feet.

Why would China want to end the war? World trade. Peaceful trade with the world is what everybody wants. The problem is that the US wants to control (rape and plunder) it rather than let people and countries be free.

You have a dual personality. You pretend to be an US Texan guy, but it is becoming more and more evident you work for China and have only ill intentions toward the US.

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between the people of the US and the crooks in the US Government. But this is to be expected, because loads of Americans seem to be in favor of Biden, all the while he is destroying them. Your mistake is understandable.

Being a US guy from anywhere in America doesn't mean that I have to like my destruction because government is doing it. You can quote all kinds of people saying all kinds of stuff, but the truth doesn't change because of what you quote people saying.

You know all this, and that is why you direct your frustration at me... because I bring the Ukraine failure out into the open in ways that for some reason hurt your itty-bitty feewings.

Your point that you are trying to hide is that you are in favor of wars and killing. So you support more money for Ukraine. You don't seem to realize that if the US wins, it will really be the banking system that wins. Things take enough time to happen that banking-system-mastery-of-the-world probably won't hurt you, much. But it is hurting a lot of Americans, right now, which is simply a foretaste of what is to come if it conquers Russia and China like it has conquered Ukraine and the US.

I hope you are a good singer because you are certainly not to make your living with psychology. Nor with politics... well, nor with math, nor history, nor common sense, nor marketing, nor intuition, nor understanding of people and nations, nor writing ability.
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Yes... let's hope you can sign and make few bucks or yuans from it.

You are not in favour of peace, you are in favour of a surrender that will bring an even worse war in a few years.

Thanks for the encouragement. But you are kinda missing it on one major point.

Nobody knows the future. Surrender might bring a worse war in a few years. But it won't be a Ukrainian war, even if the so-called nation of Ukraine is involved. Why not? Because there isn't much of any Ukraine left to do any fighting in their wildest dreams. A surrender would only serve to bring peace, and peace NOW, and to rebuild what is left of Ukraine.

Would a bigger war come to Ukraine later? Maybe. But a NOW surrender would make Ukraine part of Russia, because Russia would be the one rebuilding Ukraine. The worse war later, if any came about, would be Ukraine fighting the US and some of whatever might be left of Nato.


After blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines that provided low-cost energy to Germany, the U.S. is now threatening German banks with sanctions


https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-05-23-nord-stream-germany-us-threatening-sanctions-yellen.html
Money queen and globalist villain Janet Yellen is back in Germany threatening punishment unless German leaders obey her orders to heighten their compliance with Russian sanctions.

The United States Treasury head met with bankers in Frankfurt this week to crack the whip of tyranny now that it is becoming painfully obvious that Russia is winning against Ukraine and everything the corrupt Zelensky regime represents.

Russia continues to procure what Yellen described as "sensitive goods" from Germany as part of its special military operation in Ukraine, and Yellen wants it to stop, or else.

According to Yellen, the U.S. government, aka deep state, has assumed the authority to strike foreign banks such as those in Germany with secondary sanctions if there is even a whiff of Russian military-related transactions.

"I urge all institutions here to take heightened compliance measures and to increase your focus on Russian evasion attempts," Yellen bellowed, threatening to bar Germany and other offending countries from being allowed to use the U.S. dollar – oh no, not that...

(Related: Last fall, Yellen bloviated about how the United States can "absolutely" afford another war.)

Yellen wants more police surveillance of German banks

To be sure that they are obeying her orders, Yellen – who is not an elected leader in Germany, by the way – wants all foreign bank branches and subsidiaries in Germany to be monitored and surveilled to ensure they are doing NATO's dirty work.

Even though Western sanctions against Russia are only hurting the West while helping Russia, Yellen wants them all enforced with an iron fist to ensure that she and the rest of her felonious cronies remain in power forever.
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[DaRude]

In private with Mr. Blinken last week and in his interview with The Times, Mr. Zelensky argued that at this desperate stage of the war, it was critical to let him use American weapons against Russian military units.

“This is part of our defense,” Mr. Zelensky told The Times. “How can we protect ourselves from these attacks? This is the only way.”

Ah yes desperation, surely a worldwide accepted totally valid reason to push the world closer to nuclear Armageddon. Lets move the doomsday clock forward again because Ukraine is winning so hard.

[mohammedsayed354]

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

[Betwrong]

If you want real news regarding the war, consider using the Yandex search engine - https://yandex.com/. One website regarding the war, that shows what is really happening on the ground, and why US funding will not reach Ukraine on time, is shown below.
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Yandex? You propose to use a Russian-controlled search engine to see what is really happening?

It's so ludicrous that it's actually funny.  

[Branko]

There was no threat. Now Ruzzia has spent a lot of money while creating a new and very real threat.

You're so brainwashed that even notorious Blackwater founder disagrees with you about that...so obviously discussion
with you is meaningless:

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1793187801703338343

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

After all this 320 pages of discussion, you still think you can reverse events and we don't remember that Ukraine was invited to NATO BEFORE
Russia annexed Crimea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit

[paxmao]

There was no threat. Now Ruzzia has spent a lot of money while creating a new and very real threat.

You're so brainwashed that even notorious Blackwater founder disagrees with you about that...so obviously discussion
with you is meaningless:

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1793187801703338343

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

After all this 320 pages of discussion, you still think you can reverse events and we don't remember that Ukraine was invited to NATO BEFORE
Russia annexed Crimea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit

"Invited to join NATO"? Interesting if there was such a thing. NATO does not "invite" - anyone can request joining NATO (even Ruzzia could ask). If you ask me, it has been proven beyond any doubt that Ukraine was very right in considering this option. The fact is that Putin simply does not consider Ukraine a free independent state and that is the root problem of all this.

BTW you should read your own sources...

Georgia and Ukraine had hoped to join the NATO Membership Action Plan,[3] but, while welcoming the two countries’ aspirations for membership and agreeing that "these countries will become members of NATO", the NATO members decided to review their request in December 2008.[4][5]

In my book, that's a no.

Now... let's talk tenability of Crimea in light of yesterdays ATACAMS strike on a radar facility in the southwest of Crimea. Would you say that Crimea is tenable?

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-war-crimea-atacms-strike-hits-russian-space-radar-station-report-1904311

The news outlet Krym Realii, which is part of U.S.-funded network Radio Free Liberty, said at least six explosions were reported in Crimea's Simferopol area and some eight explosions in the area of ​​the Belbek airfield—a key Russian military air base—and in the Novofedorivka settlement.

[Branko]

If you want real news regarding the war, consider using the Yandex search engine - https://yandex.com/. One website regarding the war, that shows what is really happening on the ground, and why US funding will not reach Ukraine on time, is shown below.
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Yandex? You propose to use a Russian-controlled search engine to see what is really happening?

It's so ludicrous that it's actually funny.  

Actually, I tested it a bit and compared to Google...its hilarious how much Google is controlled compared to Yandex
Yandex gives me exactly what I'm searching for, while if I search "video of Russia soldier killing ukrainian soldier",
first 200 links will give me exactly opposite...videos of ukrainian soldiers killing russian ones
So thanks BADecker for suggestion.

I also found another trick CIA/NSA use...I can't see RT by any normal browser because
they all say it's unsafe because their certificate is self-signed.
Then I try using TOR and it works...and certificate is signed by...tadaaa...:

"Let's Encrypt" - from the USA, lol

[paxmao]

If you want real news regarding the war, consider using the Yandex search engine - https://yandex.com/. One website regarding the war, that shows what is really happening on the ground, and why US funding will not reach Ukraine on time, is shown below.
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Yandex? You propose to use a Russian-controlled search engine to see what is really happening?

It's so ludicrous that it's actually funny.  

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Yandex gives me exactly what I'm searching for
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And that does not ring any bells with you of course.

Meanwhile, 70 km from the front, another S400 is mysteriously blown up.
https://t.me/dosye_shpiona/531

There is also some evidence on how the Ruzzian air defence "intercepts" ATACAMS, but somehow they still explode in the ground as if not. This is the attack on an space radar facility in south west Crimea.

https://t.me/vanek_nikolaev/23729

Ukraine has thought it may be a good idea after all hitting electrical infrastructure.

https://t.me/ssternenko/28981

[Branko]

And that does not ring any bells with you of course.

To each his own...I guess you like your Big Brother picking stuff you're allowed to see,
and that's perfectly fine, I only see problem with them hiding it...in China you at least
know you're behind big firewall


Between Google, Yandex, and Baidu, I choose one giving true results, you choose one
giving you predetermined brainwashing results, and Chinese people are forced to be
creative, I guess

I also prefer strategic assessment of situation on battlefield, while you prefer
tiny Ukrainian "wins" that MSM handpicks for you...half of them probably fake AI
generated since its strange after so many "wins" battlefield is moving in the opposite direction

Meanwhile, Ukraine can't even communicate anymore:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/technology/ukraine-russia-starlink.html

[paxmao]

And that does not ring any bells with you of course.

To each his own...I guess you like your Big Brother picking stuff you're allowed to see,
and that's perfectly fine, I only see problem with them hiding it...in China you at least
know you're behind big firewall


Between Google, Yandex, and Baidu, I choose one giving true results, you choose one
giving you predetermined brainwashing results, and Chinese people are forced to be
creative, I guess

I also prefer strategic assessment of situation on battlefield, while you prefer
tiny Ukrainian "wins" that MSM handpicks for you...half of them probably fake AI
generated since its strange after so many "wins" battlefield is moving in the opposite direction

Meanwhile, Ukraine can't even communicate anymore:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/technology/ukraine-russia-starlink.html

True result sure, you are all about "truth". If is not "true" then is AI because it is impossible that is "true" if you think it has to be "not true". Maybe these are not in Yandex when you search.

Oh, what a pity, now that Ukraine "cannot communicate" any more I am sure they won't be able to blow up radars, refineries, the weapons "will not work", all the attacks will be "repelled" and the the "truth" will be revealed to the world.

More "AI" for you...
https://youtu.be/K_jdfaI5dyQ?t=45

[BADecker]

With added US and Nato military intervention, things become rather 'muddy' in Ukraine. This isn't really a war with Ukraine any longer. The Ukraine part has ceased to become something to deal with. This is now becoming a formal Russia/China against the-US/Nato war.

The US WANTS this war... the government and other leaders. Why? Because they think that there are way too many people in the world already. So let's get rid of a few of them, even if it means war.


The Conflict in Ukraine: How Do Matters Stand?


https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/05/23/the-conflict-in-ukraine-how-do-matters-stand/
Update: Those promoting the 'foreign agent law' in Georgia could be barred from traveling to America, Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said
https://www.rt.com/russia/598171-us-visa-crackdown-georgia-foreign-agent-law/
Clearly, Washington intends a color revolution in Georgia as a second front against Russia.

I have tried to provide accurate analysis of the conflict in Ukraine. This is not a simple task as there is little publicly available information about how the Kremlin sees the widening of the conflict. France has sent troops. The US Secretary of Defense said that eventually NATO troops will be deployed to Ukraine, and European governments are preparing for war with Russia in 4 or 5 years.

Putin's original goals were the liberation of the Donbas region, and denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. How denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine were to be accomplished without the conquest of Ukraine was never clear.

The appearance of long-range missiles, that is, missiles whose reach extends beyond the battlefield into Russia, resulted in statements from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs that Russia would have to compensate for the missiles reach by taking more of Ukraine in order to create a buffer zone. As the missiles the West sends keep lengthening in range, the consequence is that the buffer zone keeps enlarging and the entirety of Ukraine will have to be conquered and occupied and a Russian-friendly government installed in Ukraine. Already there are reports of Ukrainian drone attacks on Tatarstan in central Russia one thousand kilometers from the front line in Ukraine. Clearly the conflict is not a limited military operation. https://www.rt.com/russia/598116-airports-closed-factory-evacuated-tatarstan-drone/.
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[Branko]

True result sure, you are all about "truth". If is not "true" then is AI because it is impossible that is "true" if you think it has to be "not true". Maybe these are not in Yandex when you search.

Oh, what a pity, now that Ukraine "cannot communicate" any more I am sure they won't be able to blow up radars, refineries, the weapons "will not work", all the attacks will be "repelled" and the the "truth" will be revealed to the world.

More "AI" for you...
https://youtu.be/K_jdfaI5dyQ?t=45

Keep tryin'

https://youtu.be/RC_bQZ3xy58

"We have no fortifications, officers stole money, Russians are professionally trained soldiers, have to use WW2 artillery pieces"...on CNN, from mouth of Ukraine soldiers,


I can imagine what unedited video would look like