Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

Modern Russia is different than the USSR. Modern Russia doesn't use war tactics to conquer nations.

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They have used and keep using war (e.g. Chechenia, Georgia, UKRAINE).

Modern Ruzzia is not even half of the economic and political power that used to be but that is exactly the issue: they still hold the residual power from the Soviet Union in the shape of bombers, fighters, the nukes, etc... but all that is not there because "moder Ruzzia" made it, in fact their army has been deteriorating to the point in which it has become the second army... in Ukraine.

The difference is the way that Russia uses war. Russian war today is for self defense, basically... not for conquest. However, when they are provoked, if they gain the upper hand, they might push a little farther than simple defense. But still, basically not much farther.

Modern Russia holds some war materials for self defense if needed. And they should, just like any country. The fact that they have reduced much of it simply shows that they are not like the USSR, which was a military conquest type of country. Modern Russia was trying to fit itself into the world economy by world trade. The West simply wouldn't allow it, because Russia would have traded them right out of existence.

If you look at the Ukraine war, you will see that Russia is gradually advancing into Ukraine. And they are doing it without using most of their military, which remains in Russia. And they are doing it against the combined forces of Europe and what little the US is maintaining there. It's worth noting that without all kinds of help from other countries, Ukraine would have folded a couple years ago.

Yes... gradually, veeeery veery gradually. It would look like if someone would want Ruzzia to waste all their arsenal to get just a bit of land that may not be meaninful for anyone other than Ukraine and Ruzzia?

[BADecker]

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The difference is the way that Russia uses war. Russian war today is for self defense, basically... not for conquest. However, when they are provoked, if they gain the upper hand, they might push a little farther than simple defense. But still, basically not much farther.

Modern Russia holds some war materials for self defense if needed. And they should, just like any country. The fact that they have reduced much of it simply shows that they are not like the USSR, which was a military conquest type of country. Modern Russia was trying to fit itself into the world economy by world trade. The West simply wouldn't allow it, because Russia would have traded them right out of existence.

If you look at the Ukraine war, you will see that Russia is gradually advancing into Ukraine. And they are doing it without using most of their military, which remains in Russia. And they are doing it against the combined forces of Europe and what little the US is maintaining there. It's worth noting that without all kinds of help from other countries, Ukraine would have folded a couple years ago.

Yes... gradually, veeeery veery gradually. It would look like if someone would want Ruzzia to waste all their arsenal to get just a bit of land that may not be meaninful for anyone other than Ukraine and Ruzzia?

The deals made between Russia and Ukraine via the US over the last week, or so, include a lifting of many of the sanctions off Russia. This will make Russia wealthier, even if the banks don't give Russia their $billions back. Western companies are already starting to gear up for moving back into Russia. Since Ukraine is barely holding its own in the war, what will happen when Russia gets loads of money because of these talks and the sanctions being partially lifted?

Note that the deal around the ceasefire is only for 30 days. But the lifting of the sanctions is for an undetermined amount of time... maybe indefinitely. With all the extra money Russia will be making, what will happen to Ukraine when the ceasefire is over?

Time to destroy ourselves by nuking Russia? If something happens to Putin, and Medvedev takes over, the nukes very likely will start flying. A worldwide nuke war. Pray nothing happens to Putin.

[montaga]

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Time to destroy ourselves by nuking Russia? If something happens to Putin, and Medvedev takes over, the nukes very likely will start flying. A worldwide nuke war. Pray nothing happens to Putin.

Nukes are a hoax, the only thing existing is hydrogen bombs (Hiroshima, Nagasaki.....)

[BADecker]

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Time to destroy ourselves by nuking Russia? If something happens to Putin, and Medvedev takes over, the nukes very likely will start flying. A worldwide nuke war. Pray nothing happens to Putin.

Nukes are a hoax, the only thing existing is hydrogen bombs (Hiroshima, Nagasaki.....)

I agree with you. But you are missing one major aspect of it.

Average nuclear scientists and workers of the 1930's and 1940's weren't affected by the uranium and plutonium that they handled, if they handled it in smallish quantities, like 5 or 10 pounds. You can still find this info in the old paperwork, and even in 1 or 2 videos. The radiation fear was/is a psyop built by the US government to keep people away from uranium. Geiger counters were built and adjusted to scare people by the little bit of radiation that uranium DOES emit.

On the other hand, outside of producing fake radiation burn effects, nuclear radiation DOES affect people in a big, bad way at times. And here is the aspect you and most people are missing. It's what you believe about radioactive dangers that gives the radioactive material their strength.

It seems that radiation is affected by the believing minds of the radioactive material handlers. If a person believes (I mean REALLY believes) that the radiation won't hurt him, then it won't. But if he believes that it will then it will. It's a natural way that radiation acts with the mind and belief.


However! Consider the Oreshnik ICBM that Russia used on Dnipro on November 21, last year. It wasn't nuclear, didn't even have any explosives, but did a reasonable amount of local-ish damage. ICBM's are dangerous, and can be used in ways that are far more dangerous than the way Oreshnik was used, to provide a whole lot more damage, even if it isn't nuclear damage.


Just a note about Nagasaki. Nagasaki was not the intended target. I forget which city was, but there were too many clouds over that city to use the 'nuke' that day. So, they hit Nagasaki instead. Nagasaki was the biggest Christian city in Japan at the time.

[montaga]

^^^^
Last week i talked to someone who purchased a Geiger counter on eBay. Apparently there is no universal agreed save level, different countries have different recommendations. With his testing some local countryside is outside the save zone, but would be perfectly ok in Switzerland. Ground level in his city is ok (below 100 CPM) and he is very safe on his third floor apartment. Personnaly, background radiation is not one of my worries.

To many clouds and hit Nagasaki instead, now that is a cool story i was not aware of, interesting how pieces fall into the puzzle.

Got to me recommended this today
https://www.tiktok.com/@realredd1tstor1es/video/7477729643982884103?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

In other notes Ukraine in some part has massively increased defence trenches.

[BADecker]

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In other notes Ukraine in some part has massively increased defence trenches.

If they make their defense trenches deep enough, Putin will be sending in bulldozers rather than tanks.

[montaga]

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In other notes Ukraine in some part has massively increased defence trenches.

If they make their defense trenches deep enough, Putin will be sending in bulldozers rather than tanks.

Bulldozers and Tanks are just sitting targets for drones
Current state of affairs: https://x.com/i/status/1906019595032395883
Now joining in combat are drones with maschine gun mounted and return to base after mission.
Russia launched 172 strike drones — over 100 of them were Shaheds.

[BADecker]

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In other notes Ukraine in some part has massively increased defence trenches.

If they make their defense trenches deep enough, Putin will be sending in bulldozers rather than tanks.

Bulldozers and Tanks are just sitting targets for drones
Current state of affairs: https://x.com/i/status/1906019595032395883
Now joining in combat are drones with maschine gun mounted and return to base after mission.
Russia launched 172 strike drones — over 100 of them were Shaheds.

Shaheds - Obviously, the sanctions aren't really working.

Drones are flying targets for drone-hunting drones... which maybe are not even invented, yet.

Bulldozers are only for covering the trenches to bury the Ukrainian 'dead'.

[montaga]

Drones are flying targets for drone-hunting drones... which maybe are not even invented, yet.

Will enter service in the near future.
https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2025/03/29/swedish-startup-develop-low-cost-kreuger-100-battery-powered-drone-interceptor/

Modern battlefield developing to a "computer game playes" shootout https://x.com/i/status/1906242551822114916 and https://x.com/i/status/1906391457134428452

[hellflame]

All these gadgets on the battlefield are designed to be used on yall someday and are irrelevant as to what is happening in Ukraine. Putin should have stayed out of Ukraine and not have fallen for the elaborate trap that has been laid for him. All these "leaders" are being played like puppets on a string. He has 2 options. Withdraw in defeat (Unlikely) or go full retard and literally scorch the earth before the "peacekeepers" arrive (highly likely) or be drawn into a wider european conflict against mainly France,UK and Germany (the US will be busy elsewhere). Islamic forces within all these countries would be his greatest assets at that point depending on how this will play out. France will be tested as to call their bluff on nuclear once the Rhine is crossed. If conventional forces manage to repel the Russia, Islamic campaigns to these parts of europe then they will only be steered north towards Italy to the greatest prize Rome but just for a bit of chaos and destruction until the man arrives and puts the flames out.

Magic 8 ball is is acting up but the tea leaves seem to be telling me this so I will go with the tea leaves because I don't consult with soothsayers.

~crazy troll person

[Branko]

Meanwhile, ukronazis still abduct people on the streets:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/68_NjrXZ2Cs

[paxmao]

All these gadgets on the battlefield are designed to be used on yall someday and are irrelevant as to what is happening in Ukraine. Putin should have stayed out of Ukraine and not have fallen for the elaborate trap that has been laid for him. All these "leaders" are being played like puppets on a string. He has 2 options. Withdraw in defeat (Unlikely) or go full retard and literally scorch the earth before the "peacekeepers" arrive (highly likely) or be drawn into a wider european conflict against mainly France,UK and Germany (the US will be busy elsewhere). Islamic forces within all these countries would be his greatest assets at that point depending on how this will play out. France will be tested as to call their bluff on nuclear once the Rhine is crossed. If conventional forces manage to repel the Russia, Islamic campaigns to these parts of europe then they will only be steered north towards Italy to the greatest prize Rome but just for a bit of chaos and destruction until the man arrives and puts the flames out.

Magic 8 ball is is acting up but the tea leaves seem to be telling me this so I will go with the tea leaves because I don't consult with soothsayers.

~crazy troll person

The interesting thing is that all the learning from Ukraine are now going to feed on the configuration of the European Defence Forces (if they come as such), the design of new systems and may actually give Ukraine an edge on weapons production - a competitor to Ruzzia which right now cannot supply any customer.

I think they key takeaways are
- obviously the need to have and be able to defend against modest cheat drones, long range low tech drones.
- Currently seem that air defence is better than air attack capabilities - save the stealth planes, but these need to be further proven.
- Either you have a massive sucess at the begining or you need to be ready for years of war.
- Hybrid attacks are as important as hard attarcks.
- Defence is more about mobility and high-precision artillery.
- Quantity is important.

[montaga]

All these gadgets on the battlefield are designed to be used on yall someday....
Putin should have stayed out of Ukraine and not have fallen for the elaborate trap that has been laid for him........

Ukraine is the testing ground, and the "smart" phone will be the homing in device.
Maybe the Azov Battalion guys have been the first to fall into the trap?

Meanwhile, ukronazis still abduct people on the streets:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/68_NjrXZ2Cs

That game is played on both sides because Putin and Zelenskyy work in cahoots.
https://x.com/albafella1/status/1906392935257542851


Another case of hidden itendidy (Putina = the female version of the last name "Putin")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/05/18/putin-is-a-jew-documents-from-the-presidents-biography-confirm-rumours/
Putin attended Metekhi school for three years school records show
She chose not to marry Platon Privalov after he received a package from his village containing cured pork and a letter from his wife.
DNA tests have been done that Vera is the mother have never been published
Russian journalist and tycoon Artyom Borovik was on his way to publish the full story about Vera Putina when his private plane crashed.
Italian journalist Antonio Russo sent photographs of Putina to Italy in preparation for an article about her shortly before he was shot dead near Tbilisi.

[BADecker]

Putin recently listed his terms for peace. One of them was that a UN group including Trump do the negotiations rather than Zelensky. This because Zelensky doesn't have authority to sign peace agreements since his term as president of Ukraine expired.

Trump didn't like this... especially the part about Zelensky not having authority. So Trump spurned Putin's peace negotiations idea.

Now Putin has sent 160,000 more troops into the battle.

That really turned Trump off. How long before Trump gets the US formally involved? Will it really mean a nuke war?

[montaga]

Putin (and Zelenskyy) will sign as soon as his homeland is carved out, from Dnieper river to Ural river (East of Ural Mountain/River is Asia)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg65204940#msg65204940

Meantime a family can pick up some "cargo" at the Moscow cargo terminal
https://x.com/i/status/1906691260007542943

Drone interceptor already at work https://x.com/i/status/1906756878602027357
more of the ground based pilots fighting a airbattle https://x.com/i/status/1906427093539316197

Ramadan finished, 10000 Chechen (Muslem) received invitation letter to give it all

[paxmao]

Putin recently listed his terms for peace. One of them was that a UN group including Trump do the negotiations rather than Zelensky. This because Zelensky doesn't have authority to sign peace agreements since his term as president of Ukraine expired.

Trump didn't like this... especially the part about Zelensky not having authority. So Trump spurned Putin's peace negotiations idea.

Now Putin has sent 160,000 more troops into the battle.

That really turned Trump off. How long before Trump gets the US formally involved? Will it really mean a nuke war?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729

President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

BA, this is the risk of following Trump... you say stuff the next day and... you are already a day late on the "latest thinking" about the topic

Putin would very much like to impose this and that condition, but in the end there is a practical limit to the years he can wage war. However, I do not think there is practical limit to the years the US can keep this up. All the "billions" in aid are barely 0.7% of the US GDP.

I guess it is going to take a while more for Trump to understand that he has these options:

a) Leave Ukraine. He will look like the weakest US leader ever and his expansionistic discourse will look empty - any difficulty and you run. Ukraine could potentially keep fighting for one year with EU's help.

b) Keep supplying insufficient aid to Ukraine. The war will last until Ruzzia decides that is getting too hot. I guess a couple of years.

c) Supply decissive aid to Ukraine. Ruzzia will consider that is getting to hot the moment they start loosing territory. I guess proper understanding could be reached in a year.

I wish I was wrong, but this is not ending soon unless Putin sees a clear drive from the US to make them back-up in the front.

[DaRude]

Putin recently listed his terms for peace. One of them was that a UN group including Trump do the negotiations rather than Zelensky. This because Zelensky doesn't have authority to sign peace agreements since his term as president of Ukraine expired.

Trump didn't like this... especially the part about Zelensky not having authority. So Trump spurned Putin's peace negotiations idea.

Now Putin has sent 160,000 more troops into the battle.

That really turned Trump off. How long before Trump gets the US formally involved? Will it really mean a nuke war?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729

President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

BA, this is the risk of following Trump... you say stuff the next day and... you are already a day late on the "latest thinking" about the topic

Putin would very much like to impose this and that condition, but in the end there is a practical limit to the years he can wage war. However, I do not think there is practical limit to the years the US can keep this up. All the "billions" in aid are barely 0.7% of the US GDP.

I guess it is going to take a while more for Trump to understand that he has these options:

a) Leave Ukraine. He will look like the weakest US leader ever and his expansionistic discourse will look empty - any difficulty and you run. Ukraine could potentially keep fighting for one year with EU's help.

b) Keep supplying insufficient aid to Ukraine. The war will last until Ruzzia decides that is getting too hot. I guess a couple of years.

c) Supply decissive aid to Ukraine. Ruzzia will consider that is getting to hot the moment they start loosing territory. I guess proper understanding could be reached in a year.

I wish I was wrong, but this is not ending soon unless Putin sees a clear drive from the US to make them back-up in the front.

Ukraine cannot fight without US's weapons. Already the amount of arrivals in Ukrainian cities is a clear indication that UA's air defenses are critically low.

Trump is making China a priority, and doesn't care about Ukraine. Not sure how he can make that any clearer.

China's oil consumption to tick up 1.1% in 2025, CNPC think tank says
Now ask yourself whether providing China with a discount on Russian oil/gas/metals makes any strategic sense when you put constraining China as your top priority. Or making Russia redirect it's resources away from China into say Europe and letting Russia keep Ukraine makes more sense. Once you realize that, everything that will happen next will become obvious.

[paxmao]

Putin recently listed his terms for peace. One of them was that a UN group including Trump do the negotiations rather than Zelensky. This because Zelensky doesn't have authority to sign peace agreements since his term as president of Ukraine expired.

Trump didn't like this... especially the part about Zelensky not having authority. So Trump spurned Putin's peace negotiations idea.

Now Putin has sent 160,000 more troops into the battle.

That really turned Trump off. How long before Trump gets the US formally involved? Will it really mean a nuke war?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729

President Donald Trump said he was “very angry” and “pissed off” when Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the credibility of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s leadership, adding that the comments were “not going in the right location.”

BA, this is the risk of following Trump... you say stuff the next day and... you are already a day late on the "latest thinking" about the topic

Putin would very much like to impose this and that condition, but in the end there is a practical limit to the years he can wage war. However, I do not think there is practical limit to the years the US can keep this up. All the "billions" in aid are barely 0.7% of the US GDP.

I guess it is going to take a while more for Trump to understand that he has these options:

a) Leave Ukraine. He will look like the weakest US leader ever and his expansionistic discourse will look empty - any difficulty and you run. Ukraine could potentially keep fighting for one year with EU's help.

b) Keep supplying insufficient aid to Ukraine. The war will last until Ruzzia decides that is getting too hot. I guess a couple of years.

c) Supply decissive aid to Ukraine. Ruzzia will consider that is getting to hot the moment they start loosing territory. I guess proper understanding could be reached in a year.

I wish I was wrong, but this is not ending soon unless Putin sees a clear drive from the US to make them back-up in the front.

Ukraine cannot fight without US's weapons. Already the amount of arrivals in Ukrainian cities is a clear indication that UA's air defenses are critically low.

Trump is making China a priority, and doesn't care about Ukraine. Not sure how he can make that any clearer.

China's oil consumption to tick up 1.1% in 2025, CNPC think tank says
Now ask yourself whether providing China with a discount on Russian oil/gas/metals makes any strategic sense when you put constraining China as your top priority. Or making Russia redirect it's resources away from China into say Europe and letting Russia keep Ukraine makes more sense. Once you realize that, everything that will happen next will become obvious.

Yes they can with any weapons. Europe can supply enough to keep the war going.

Trump cannot move out of Ukraine without looking a poor and weak leader. He is also starting to notice who is the obstacle to close this war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/ukraine-war-briefing-trump-sanctions-threat-on-russian-oil-buyers-could-hit-china-india

China and India could be affected if Donald Trump introduces tariffs of 25-50% against countries buying Russian oil, analysts and officials have suggested. Dan Sabbagh reports that the US president told NBC he would impose such measures within a month “if a deal isn’t made, and if I think it was Russia’s fault”, as he vented frustration at Vladimir Putin’s delaying tactics and attempts to discredit Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian president.

Some countries, including China and India, are not participating in anti-war sanctions against Russian oil. Secondary sanctions or tariffs imposed directly on them by the US could further limit Putin’s access to oil revenue to fund the war. While not joining the international sanctions against Russia, China has been wary about breaching them in case it attracts secondary penalties. Some Chinese banks, for example, have curtailed dealings with Russian companies for fear of being barred from the international banking system.

UBS analyst Giovanni Staunovo said that targeting buyers – as Trump has done with Venezuela’s oil – could affect China and India. “We need to see, however, what will be announced over the coming days.” India has surpassed China to become the biggest buyer of seaborne Russian crude oil, which comprised about 35% of India’s total crude imports in 2024. There have been concerns since the beginning of the war about India being a “back door” for Russian oil exports.

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Good news uh??

China has already been buying at a discount during most of the war. The problem is that the capacity of export to China is very limited.

But I have more great news for all Ruzzians!!!! Hear hear...

Januaray 25

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-central-bank-rumors-freeze-deposits-interest-rates-inflation-2025-1?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Russians are so nervous about the economy that the central bank took to Telegram to dismiss rumors about deposits being frozen

And then, April 2025...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEaoBVt1U4Q

"Still, we will most likely have to resort to the unpopular step of temporary ...

Guess what - freezing of peoples bank accounts

The Ruzzias are about to learn a new word in Spanish... "Corralito": Freezing of citizens banks accounts with ban to currency conversion and limited withdrawals.

Come on quickly... seach for GIFs and pictures, you need to cover this!!

[Branko]

The Ruzzias are about to learn a new word in Spanish... "Corralito": Freezing of citizens banks accounts with ban to currency conversion and limited withdrawals.

Come on quickly... seach for GIFs and pictures, you need to cover this!!

So now we're down to freezing accounts as economy measure...what happened to RUB/USD conversion rate you used before?

BTW, Russia is not asking for lifting sanctions, as they're doing just fine:

https://t.me/vicktop55/32551

[montaga]

It is surprising how few Russians in some of the Russian countries in the European side life (More republics on the Asian side*).
Even in Montenegro a country with 0.6M population has 2% Russians.



Republic of Karelia        
Komi Republic              

Mari El Republic          
Udmurt Republic            
Republic of Mordovia      
Chuvash Republic          
Republic of Tatarstan      
Republic of Bashkortostan  

Republic of Kalmykia        
Republic of Dagestan        
Chechen Republic          
Republic of Ingushetia      
Republic of North Ossetia–Alania  
Kabardino-Balkarian Republic
Karachay-Cherkess Republic  
Adygean Republic  



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Sakha (Yakutia)
Buryatia
Tuva
Khaskassia
Altai