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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 19, 2023, 02:29:26 PM
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Indeed, there is currently a lot of speculation circulating before the match starts and it is very reasonable knowing how the head to head of the two will be. Performance in the regular league sometimes cannot be used as a reference for other competitions such as the UCL and of course Liverpool should not be underestimated even though their record was quite bad when they met Real Madrid. But for sure I will be very happy if Liverpool can give their best performance when they meet Real Madrid later in the UCL round of 16 later, of course this will be a good mood booster for each fan to see their favorite team doing well.

It is precisely their performance in the Domestic League that is our reference for assessing their matches when playing the Champions League. just imagine, Liverpool has 38 matches in its Domestic League just like the other teams that follow in this competition. at least, Liverpool have a long match and they must still appear consistent. plus, having matches in various other competitions.

For the Champions League, in addition to performance factors that must support, they also need high luck. that is why, Manchester City and PSG have not been able to win the title in this competition. even though, they have the depth of the game that has especially on the front lines. unfortunately, luck has not been on their side to win the championship trophy in this competition.

Well, because Liverpool's performance is very unstable, sometimes they play well sometimes they are very underperforming. all Klopp has to do is improve his team's performance, after that hoping for luck on their side when they host Real Madrid in the first leg.

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January 19, 2023, 02:55:22 PM
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In knockout games, each team has a chance against each, and even the favorites are forced to overcome in order to achieve a result. For example, last season it's hard to call City's victory over Atlético easy, although Atlético turned into an already rather sad team and it seemed that City would easily defeat them. And this is possible in any pair. If we take a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, then I consider Real Madrid to be the undisputed favorite, but the result is not guaranteed to anyone.

Real Madrid is undoubtedly the favorite team in Liverpool vs Real Madrid match. Because Liverpool is not in good form now. But don't forget that this is the Champions League platform. Be prepared for any surprises. Real Madrid is in good form and they are in a good enough position now. Even then we cannot say for sure that Real Madrid will win. Last season we saw strong teams like Bayern Munich lose against Villarreal. And so if Real Madrid thinks they can beat Liverpool easily, they are making a big mistake. The match will certainly be competitive.

The nuance is that bookmakers think differently. They rate Real Madrid's chance of reaching the quarter-finals at 2.04 and Liverpool at 1.69. It's just ridiculous given the number of failures Liverpool have had throughout the season. Real Madrid had only one unsuccessful match against Barcelona (and that was only the Super Cup). I don't even know what to wish for - for Real to turn the quotes in the first game in Liverpool or for Liverpool to win in the first game so i will get the opportunity to bet on Real with very high odds.

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January 19, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.

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January 19, 2023, 03:09:27 PM
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Even though the analysis is like that, we know Liverpool have performed better in the Champions League this season. Their performance looks good even though in the Premier League they lost so many points. It's tough against Real Madrid, it's hard to expect Liverpool to win, but I think Liverpool also have a chance to win it.
Real Madrid has more experience than Liverpool in the Champions League. The Madrid team is very stable. And this team has been able to maintain consistency this season. They are doing very well in both La Liga and the Champions League. And their coach Ancelotti is very experienced. I think if Real Madrid's main striker Benzema doesn't get injured, it won't be difficult to win against Liverpool. However, if Benzema is not with the squad, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to win against Liverpool.
I know Real Madrid have a series of Champions League titles that have won so far but it is possible that Liverpool will lose this season, we are still trying to do our best and Klopp will be mentally ready when this competition starts I am sure that some players will has been brought to Anfield there will be a little more changes in the current season even though we in the English league still don't have a consistent appearance but believe me when the Champions League starts all the teams will be ready with their best game.

So Real Madrid only relies on one player, Benzema. If he doesn't play for the team, will Real Madrid be weak? what about the other great players? Shocked

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January 19, 2023, 03:22:52 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.
It is true that Chelsea has more Champions League experience than Dortmund and they are expected to beat Dortmund and qualify for the next round of the Champions League but there will be problem with Chelsea if they continue to experience injury players and inconsistency.
It Chelsea good midfielders did not come back before that Dortmund match they will find it difficult because Jude Bellingham will possess the midfield for them

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January 19, 2023, 03:27:19 PM
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If u say this about Liverpool what then will you say about Chelsea who is in worst form than Liverpool? As far as Europe competition is consent I don't look little at any EPL team who makes it up to the round of 16.
Liverpool like you say has a bad result in EPL competitions but as far as the champions league, Klopp and his boys will fight with their last blood. Same as Chelsea
Some of big clubs were performing the worst. Chelsea has been performing even worst compared with Liverpool. Liverpool and Chelsea gonna try so hard to make sure if both will be qualified for the next round. Chelsea may a bit lucky compared with city caused by Chelsea must have faced Dortmund and do know that so well if dortmund was not as good as real Madrid in the UCL. You can't compare Liverpool and Chelsea. Both may in the worst situation but liverpoll was getting so many disadvantages against real madrid. That's caused by when you are trying to see the head to head between real against Liverpool and you will know about the fact
Indeed, the fact that Real Madrid's head to head against Liverpool is no longer in doubt, Real Madrid is far superior to Liverpool. But I will focus on talking about Chelsea at the moment, they spent up to 421 million euros in the current transfer market and if they fail to go to the next round against Dortmund then it looks like it will be a waste of money, considering that amount of money not a little.
Chelsea has become the main concern of so many parties recently. Chelsea has been buying so many players but none of them have been showing good performance. Even a new player like felix was getting a red card too. Dortmund was also facing a similar thing to Chelsea but the problem is dortmund was selling so many of its key players while Chelsea was adding more players to the club. The situation between both was actually different where Chelsea has more advantage compared with Dortmund.
The match between both is very difficult to be predicted. I will pick chelsea in this match. I think that Chelsea is a bit superior compared with Dortmund.

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January 19, 2023, 04:20:33 PM
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Manchester City are favoured very highly for the Champions League title now - 2.70. Even their biggest rivals have 7.50 odds according to bookmakers. These teams are seen as Bayern Munich and PSG. These are all things on paper of course. Because for example Manchester City have been shown among the top contenders for the title for a long time. But they still haven't got any. After the Haaland transfer many people (including me) started to believe in their championship more than before.

Maybe Leipzig aren't one of the biggest threats. But I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform against the top rivals in this tournament. They have been out-of-form a little these days but there are still four weeks until the Leipzig match. This is good enough time for them to improve their effort.
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January 19, 2023, 04:22:56 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.
I can't say whether Chelsea can show their best game in this match or not, because as we know their performance in the Premier League cannot be expected. But I can't rule out the possibility, maybe Chelsea will show something different, so will Borussia Dortmund. Maybe in the end they will beat each other at home, in the first leg and second leg. Their current odds I think have the same odds.

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January 19, 2023, 04:30:07 PM
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I can't say whether Chelsea can show their best game in this match or not, because as we know their performance in the Premier League cannot be expected. But I can't rule out the possibility, maybe Chelsea will show something different, so will Borussia Dortmund. Maybe in the end they will beat each other at home, in the first leg and second leg. Their current odds I think have the same odds.
The performance of both teams in the domestic league may be a factor in the analysis before betting something on the match, but usually the Champions League is very different. Chelsea and Dortmund both have chances to win and qualify for the quarter-finals regardless of whether they will take advantage of their home match or not.

I would prefer to see Chelsea to the quarter-finals than Dortmund, but who knows. Dortmund are also a good team to get there or maybe to the semi-finals, but I don't think either of them will get to the final this season.

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January 19, 2023, 08:19:28 PM
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There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.

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January 19, 2023, 08:22:40 PM
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Real Madrid is undoubtedly the favorite team in Liverpool vs Real Madrid match. Because Liverpool is not in good form now. But don't forget that this is the Champions League platform. Be prepared for any surprises. Real Madrid is in good form and they are in a good enough position now. Even then we cannot say for sure that Real Madrid will win. Last season we saw strong teams like Bayern Munich lose against Villarreal. And so if Real Madrid thinks they can beat Liverpool easily, they are making a big mistake. The match will certainly be competitive.
PSG was the favourites against Real last year, so was City and so was Liverpool, what happened in those games? Real beat them all and got the title anyway. Which proves that they know being the favourite doesn't mean anything, you could end up losing anyway. I believe that Liverpool is not the favourites but they do have a chance to win no matter what.

This is why I am not going to write them off this easily. Yes, they had a bad year at premier league, and not even a good year at UCL to be frank, but I feel like one good game could bring them back up again. This is why it's quite important to keep one eye open on their games coming to Real Madrid game, to see if they are any better or not.
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January 19, 2023, 08:32:15 PM
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There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.
In this match I don't know why I'm still so doubtful about these two teams.
Regardless of anything, this match is still quite long, but seeing their current condition actually makes me a little doubtful about who will win.
They still have to put in more effort with their current condition even though these two teams are good teams and are regulars in the Champions League, this still doesn't change the fact that this season they are still pretty bad.

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January 19, 2023, 08:47:25 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.

Dortmund facing Chelsea right now I don't think they will find it difficult to get a win in the first leg of their match because right now Dortmund's performance is way better than the performance of Chelsea this season, Dortmund and Chelsea is having a bad time but I think Dortmund still has what it takes to get the first win compared to Chelsea team that has struggled so much in their League irrespective of the new players that have been brought to the team I still believe the team have good and bad side this season but Dortmund is in a better position to win right now.

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January 19, 2023, 09:55:55 PM
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If u say this about Liverpool what then will you say about Chelsea who is in worst form than Liverpool? As far as Europe competition is consent I don't look little at any EPL team who makes it up to the round of 16.
Liverpool like you say has a bad result in EPL competitions but as far as the champions league, Klopp and his boys will fight with their last blood. Same as Chelsea

Premier league clubs has always been dominate in champions league football, why they aren't leading the table in the amount of individual club trophy won is just because Real Madrid has been very dominate, Barcelona as well. When we mention teams in each of the league that are representing very well in the competition, the Premier league has to have the highest number so nobody should think that'll be stopping anytime soon. It doesn't matter how poorly we're playing in the premier league, when it comes to the champion league, we'll turn up.

Chelsea has some boost coming their way as there are report of Reece James, Chilwel all training with the first team including our recent acquisition Mudryk. These players should strength the lineup of Chelsea to be able to get a win against Dortmund. Felix's presence will also be a key factor as I believe he must have served his three match ban before that game in February. We just hope everything stays positive at the club and we don't get further injure crisis or suspension as that'll destabilize the players.
The comparison between English teams and Spanish teams in the Champions league has been one sided in the past years so it is really good an encouraging to see that English teams are now matching the strength and excellence of the Spanish teams in the Champions league. Definitely the return of injured players will be a boost for the team, I also read today that Kante is also now training with the first team.
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January 19, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.

Dortmund facing Chelsea right now I don't think they will find it difficult to get a win in the first leg of their match because right now Dortmund's performance is way better than the performance of Chelsea this season, Dortmund and Chelsea is having a bad time but I think Dortmund still has what it takes to get the first win compared to Chelsea team that has struggled so much in their League irrespective of the new players that have been brought to the team I still believe the team have good and bad side this season but Dortmund is in a better position to win right now.
The performance of both teams in their individual leagues has nothing to do with the champions league.
We are confronted with two different teams with varying play patterns, psyche and determination.
Chelsea FC might be weaker but when it comes to the champions league with hopes of etching further, Dortmund shouldn't write them off.
After 90mins, the winner will be decided, not by performance but by goal average.

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January 19, 2023, 10:48:38 PM
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Dortmund have a bad season too and they will meet Chelsea, another club that is in crisis too. Dortmund have less experience in Champions League than Chelsea and they have less quality players than Chelsea. Chelsea if playing at their full capacity, will win Dortmund but if Chelsea can not play well, they will face risk of losing against Dortmund.
in the first leg if Dortmund can get a positive result with a win. it will be easy enough for them to survive in the second leg even though in terms of quality Chelsea should be superior.
but if in the first leg, Dortmund has left behind or even with a draw. it will be bad for Dortmund to play in the second leg.
although both teams are currently also in a less good trend. but Chelsea seems to be able to show the quality of their best game later.

Dortmund facing Chelsea right now I don't think they will find it difficult to get a win in the first leg of their match because right now Dortmund's performance is way better than the performance of Chelsea this season, Dortmund and Chelsea is having a bad time but I think Dortmund still has what it takes to get the first win compared to Chelsea team that has struggled so much in their League irrespective of the new players that have been brought to the team I still believe the team have good and bad side this season but Dortmund is in a better position to win right now.
The performance of both teams in their individual leagues has nothing to do with the champions league.
We are confronted with two different teams with varying play patterns, psyche and determination.
Chelsea FC might be weaker but when it comes to the champions league with hopes of etching further, Dortmund shouldn't write them off.
After 90mins, the winner will be decided, not by performance but by goal average.
True , the similar situation happened back in 2012 where chelsea struggling at the domestic league just like what they experienced right now but guess what ... they won it in the end surprising everyone who underestimating chelsea that time due how bad they are in premier league.

Nobody deserve an underestimate indeed in champions league. It's a huge stage with many possibilities.

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January 20, 2023, 12:00:42 AM
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There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.
The reunion of the former will be a headline for the two clubs, I also really hope that Chelsea can beat dourmount and can secure a ticket to the last 8 of the Champions league, the two teams have never met in any league, it was reported in Chelsea's director of football operations David Bernard said he would asking for help from his colleagues at Manchester city because Chelsea is blind to dourmount power.

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January 20, 2023, 03:58:29 AM
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I can't say whether Chelsea can show their best game in this match or not, because as we know their performance in the Premier League cannot be expected. But I can't rule out the possibility, maybe Chelsea will show something different, so will Borussia Dortmund. Maybe in the end they will beat each other at home, in the first leg and second leg. Their current odds I think have the same odds.
Chelsea and dortmund have been facing their own problems. that's very hard to determine which team that will be winning the game in the upcoming match between chelsea against dortmund. Chelsea has so many players come to the club but it has not yet found the best compositions to win against another team in EPL easily while the same thing was almost happening with dortmund. Dortmund is still looking for a replacement for the players that may be going out from the club as soon as possible. This is the hardest match to pick. I will still pick chelsea over dortmund although both were almost equal.

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January 20, 2023, 04:16:52 AM
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I can't say whether Chelsea can show their best game in this match or not, because as we know their performance in the Premier League cannot be expected. But I can't rule out the possibility, maybe Chelsea will show something different, so will Borussia Dortmund. Maybe in the end they will beat each other at home, in the first leg and second leg. Their current odds I think have the same odds.
The performance of both teams in the domestic league may be a factor in the analysis before betting something on the match, but usually the Champions League is very different. Chelsea and Dortmund both have chances to win and qualify for the quarter-finals regardless of whether they will take advantage of their home match or not.
Their performance in the domestic league is not much different. Both are still difficult to penetrate the best position in the standings. Perhaps their difference lies in the competitiveness of their respective leagues, namely the English Premier League and the Bundesliga.
The UEFA Champion League clearly has a different atmosphere from the domestic league. Chelsea who are currently not in the best form could have stepped into the quarter-finals beating Dortmund at home and away.

I would prefer to see Chelsea to the quarter-finals than Dortmund, but who knows. Dortmund are also a good team to get there or maybe to the semi-finals, but I don't think either of them will get to the final this season.
I don't want to predict who will step into the quarterfinals between the two teams because they still have time to fix their shortcomings.

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January 20, 2023, 04:26:17 AM
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There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.
A small difference means that the two teams have the same strength and opportunity to win, lose or draw, it will only be very detrimental for the team hosting the first leg if they only draw or win with a narrow score because Chelsea can turn things around later at Stamford Bridge but a little doubtful seeing how they are at the moment, but the Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be a very exciting match because neither team is stronger.
Between the two, whoever will qualify from the round of 16 has the opportunity to be eliminated in the next round, both will find it difficult to compete with other stronger teams

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