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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 20, 2023, 07:46:15 PM
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What you said is true, and the clubs you mentioned really have differences in the Champions League and the domestic league. This may be due to different opponents and also their different readiness in the domestic league and champions league. The pressure that exists will also cause a gap in their game which will later affect their performance in the game.
Several big matches will be presented in the middle of February, I want to see what kind of surprises will be shown in the Champions League this season. Several dark horse clubs will also be interesting to observe, how their journey in the Champions League will be.
In this February, we will have good challenging matches for many big clubs because these are ready for their adventure but how things will be gone nothing is clear with current circumstances few clubs are struggling in their domestic leagues, but we can expect good performance from then in these big games because they are ready for this and have enough quality which will help them for having positive results.

Right now, few matches having good hype about how things will go it could be interesting for the fans and surely things could be changed for these clubs if they are not able to have their desired results specially clubs like PSG and Manchester City are desperately waiting for their success but few other clubs which have quality, skills and game changer players are much better even they are having no luxuries like these two clubs.
But indeed, if we look at it, it is now the 3rd week of January, which means that in less than a month they will be back in the Champions League, several teams have still not made significant changes. Call it Liverpool and Chelsea, who are currently still in a condition that is not too good. Madrid is also one of the defending champions, its condition is a little shaky at the moment which makes it even more interesting whether with the current timeframe they will improve their condition or indeed they will decline even more.
The hope is clear that the Champions match must be decorated with a stunning performance but looking at the current condition of several clubs it looks like this could be a graveyard for the big clubs in the last 16.

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January 20, 2023, 07:58:32 PM
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Between Chelsea and Dortmund, Chelsea's performance is much better. Chelsea is at a fairly good level in the league. On the other hand, Dortmund need a good attacking player now, only then the team will be able to perform well.
The league level between Chelsea and Dortmund is indeed different, but that doesn't mean that Dortmund should be considered worse just because they are in the Bundesliga, because the strikers for the Chelsea team this season have also not been very productive in scoring goals so there is potential that might be surprising for the two when they meet inside Champions League, even though at this point Chelsea have also started bringing in new players into their squad so they can get up for the rest of the season.

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January 20, 2023, 08:45:12 PM
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There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.

It is difficult to assess the state of Dortmund, but Chelsea look very weak and in my opinion they are overrated. Tomorrow they play Liverpool and I doubt that we will see a competitive match even though Liverpool itself is weak and unstable. By the way, it's funny that in a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, the favorite to reach the next round is Liverpool. I don’t know what is the reason for such a large number of dubious quotes, maybe tomorrow Liverpool will show something special? We will see.

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January 20, 2023, 08:49:33 PM
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Between Chelsea and Dortmund, Chelsea's performance is much better. Chelsea is at a fairly good level in the league. On the other hand, Dortmund need a good attacking player now, only then the team will be able to perform well.
The league level between Chelsea and Dortmund is indeed different, but that doesn't mean that Dortmund should be considered worse just because they are in the Bundesliga, because the strikers for the Chelsea team this season have also not been very productive in scoring goals so their is potential that might be surprising for the two when they meet inside Champions League, even though at this point Chelsea have also started bringing in new players into their squad so they can get up for the rest of the season.
So far this season, Chelsea's performance has proven that Things isn't working for Chelsea for a very long time now, that they went into overestimated transfer deals and bought players in prizes they ought not to have, and I see this to be a preparatory measure against the upcoming matches awaiting them. But looking at Borussia Dortmund, I don't see any preparatory measures they have taken, upon their poor performance in the domestic leagues so I don't think it's wrong for one to consider Dortmund the worst.

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January 20, 2023, 08:58:09 PM
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Things are not good for Chelsea, but Dortmund is a pleasant opponent in that respect. And we must not forget the season in which Chelsea became champions of the CL. It wasn't all that special and good then, but they still made it to the final and also won it against City. That was surprising, but Chelsea have shown that they can go a long way with mediocre football. And the same goes for the season sometime around 2009 when they beat Bayern Munich in the final of and in Munich with a late equalizer from Drogba. The team from then cannot be compared to today, but it does show the possibilities. Dortmund can also use a success once in a while. They really haven't won anything internationally for a long time.

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January 20, 2023, 09:27:54 PM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
I have to agree with the assumption that the Champions League has different interests than every team there is. Chelsea are indeed in a disadvantageous condition in the Premier League, but it looks like they are not allowing conditions to be as bad in the Champions League against Dortmund.

The chance will be equal for both teams, but Chelsea are the favorites over Dortmund in the Champions League. If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League.

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January 20, 2023, 09:51:04 PM
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It is difficult to assess the state of Dortmund, but Chelsea look very weak and in my opinion they are overrated. Tomorrow they play Liverpool and I doubt that we will see a competitive match even though Liverpool itself is weak and unstable. By the way, it's funny that in a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, the favorite to reach the next round is Liverpool. I don’t know what is the reason for such a large number of dubious quotes, maybe tomorrow Liverpool will show something special? We will see.
If you say it's excessive in terms of spending money because of spending on their players, I agree with that.
Chelsea's current condition is really not very good and that is a fact that cannot be changed. As for the match against Liverpool, it is clear that this is still fifty-fifty actually because Liverpool have not shown normal conditions for them either. even so there is still at least a few more weeks from now for their preparations to face Dortmund.

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January 20, 2023, 09:58:21 PM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
I have to agree with the assumption that the Champions League has different interests than every team there is. Chelsea are indeed in a disadvantageous condition in the Premier League, but it looks like they are not allowing conditions to be as bad in the Champions League against Dortmund.

The chance will be equal for both teams, but Chelsea are the favorites over Dortmund in the Champions League. If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League.

Chelsea has work to do if they're to win the the game against Dortmund, they have to find them selves today training and loving like Pep Guardiola

Dortmund are great counter attacking side, Chelsea are also an attacking side but don't look like a club to win the Champions League, without having fair treatments. New signatures are being made with the new Chelsea, gradually they'll find themselves.
The Champions League would be live broadcast about it.

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January 20, 2023, 10:12:06 PM
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Between Chelsea and Dortmund, Chelsea's performance is much better. Chelsea is at a fairly good level in the league. On the other hand, Dortmund need a good attacking player now, only then the team will be able to perform well.
I don't think so. You can see chelsea's now placing at the 10th place which means chelsea has a very bad performance in the league compared with dortmund which is placed in a better position. Chelsea has a very bad squad at this moment even though dortmund is also losing some of its players and it must not be a big problem for dortmund. Chelsea may be more superior caused by it has so many outstanding players in the club but not for its performance compared with dortmund. Dortmund has been planned to sign elanga from MU. Elanga may be loaned by MU but i think that it seems like that elanga is not as good as old striker of dortmund.

Chelsea is not better than dortmund,  chelseas performance is in the worst start right now. Chelsea had good players but their state of performance is very poor and  the way Chelsea is going I doubt if they can really improve their performance even with the good players they have. Dortmund always sell their best players even if they are not in the best state,  I see reason for that but Chelsea with good talented players can show up any better performance.

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January 20, 2023, 10:23:15 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.

I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.

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January 20, 2023, 11:29:13 PM
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Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
It's okay to say Real Madrid are not the favorites in the Champions League and maybe that's just for some people, because last season there were those who said so too. But there are a lot of people who already know who won the Champions League last season and I don't think you forget that either. And it doesn't rule out that this season could be repeated again for Real Madrid, even though at this time the Real Madrid team looks a little lethargic and not convincing to win in the Champions League.
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January 20, 2023, 11:32:47 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.

I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
I don't know why people keep saying real madrid was not even strong. This is also happening since last year but yeah real Madrid was always winning UCL so many times what makes them called that the real madrid club a weak club. that's a very weird statement for me to see that. It seems like those people didn't know how good real Madrid is. Bookies were also underestimating real Madrid at this moment by giving bad odds for Madrid. I don't know why bookies were preferring Liverpool in the upcoming match rather than real madrid. Madrid has a bad odd during the first leg of last 16 against Liverpool.

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January 20, 2023, 11:51:17 PM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
I have to agree with the assumption that the Champions League has different interests than every team there is. Chelsea are indeed in a disadvantageous condition in the Premier League, but it looks like they are not allowing conditions to be as bad in the Champions League against Dortmund.

The chance will be equal for both teams, but Chelsea are the favorites over Dortmund in the Champions League. If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League

chelsea made many good signings this january, but many players are still adapting to the team, but the champions league games are even further away from happening, which will allow chelsea players to get used to the team and manage to bring a good result mainly because will be playing against an opponent that is not as strong as in past seasons

we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

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January 21, 2023, 02:23:04 AM
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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

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January 21, 2023, 03:02:29 AM
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Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
It's okay to say Real Madrid are not the favorites in the Champions League and maybe that's just for some people, because last season there were those who said so too. But there are a lot of people who already know who won the Champions League last season and I don't think you forget that either. And it doesn't rule out that this season could be repeated again for Real Madrid, even though at this time the Real Madrid team looks a little lethargic and not convincing to win in the Champions League.
People didn't realize the fact if real madrid was a club that was always winning UCL so many times. I kinda feel weird to see that if people keep saying madrid was bad. Where are they when madrid become champions so many times. These people can't accept the truth and they keep being delusional by thinking madrid was a weak team. I guess that if those people were using their internet for something else rather than try to get reliable news related to the madrid and ucl. Madrid has known as king of ucl. it's caused by so many achievements achieved by madrid.
Maadrid is still remain a king in UCL with 14 trophies. Manchester city and PSG have none.

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January 21, 2023, 03:37:42 AM
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It's okay to say Real Madrid are not the favorites in the Champions League and maybe that's just for some people, because last season there were those who said so too. But there are a lot of people who already know who won the Champions League last season and I don't think you forget that either. And it doesn't rule out that this season could be repeated again for Real Madrid, even though at this time the Real Madrid team looks a little lethargic and not convincing to win in the Champions League.
People didn't realize the fact if real madrid was a club that was always winning UCL so many times. I kinda feel weird to see that if people keep saying madrid was bad. Where are they when madrid become champions so many times. These people can't accept the truth and they keep being delusional by thinking madrid was a weak team. I guess that if those people were using their internet for something else rather than try to get reliable news related to the madrid and ucl. Madrid has known as king of ucl. it's caused by so many achievements achieved by madrid.
Maadrid is still remain a king in UCL with 14 trophies. Manchester city and PSG have none.
We must never forget that when it comes to sports some fans love hating on the clubs which have been the most dominant, and when it comes to the champions league there is little doubt Real Madrid is the best with twice as many titles as the second place and winning their 14th title just last year, so if someone says that they believe there are other teams which are better than Real Madrid at the moment then this could be true, but someone which says Real Madrid is a bad team is simply exaggerating.
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January 21, 2023, 06:03:02 AM
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If compared to Dortmund, the Chelsea team can be said to be strong. Chelsea will be favorite in this match. However, the performance of both the teams here is now weak. Their performance has decreased. The performance of Chelsea's attacking players is not good enough. And so it is very difficult for Chelsea to win against Dortmund. Since the first match is Chelsea's home match, Chelsea players will be a bit more confident. And confidence is very important to win these matches.
Among both the team - that is for sure Chelsea did perform the well.
But that is correct both team needs to give time to their performance. Confidence is important but so is consistency and struggle and hard work - this surly brings the team to the higher pedestal

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January 21, 2023, 06:21:47 AM
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Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

a fairly similar situation also seems to be experienced by Dortmund. he has also been unstable this season. so their meeting against Chelsea I think is quite fair with the condition of the two of them which is not like last season.
anything can happen in European competitions. those who don't perform well in the league can be very attractive when playing for the Champions League. I can't predict this fight, but both of them will perform optimally for a very decisive match.



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January 21, 2023, 06:47:51 AM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
When you compare both teams Chelsea have a better squad than Dortmund. With the recent additions to the Chelsea squad I think they will be even stronger and better by the time this match will take place I think Chelsea have a better chance of winning and progressing past this stage of the Champions league knockout stages. Hopefully Chelsea will play better in the Champions league than they are currently performing in the EPL.

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January 21, 2023, 07:41:23 AM
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Quote from: CLS63
Milan are seen as the closest team to the win in their Tottenham match in San Siro. There is a quite big gap between their odds as well.

Normally I would have expected Tottenham to be better than this in the Champions League. Because after seeing their start to this season I had bigger expectations. Conte's system was working like a clockwork. However things started to change not much time later. It reflected on their performance in this tournament as well. They had quite big difficulties in some matches in the group stage. Milan seemed weak against Chelsea but they are given more chance against Tottenham now. There are still a few weeks until the match though. We will see if Tottenham will make improvement. Milan also should do this in their defense.
I guess, Tottenham will surely make improvement in their next game since their coach is still doing some things that will make them improve like the way they are improving in the premier league competition. Tottenham have a good defenders but their midfielders always let their strength to reduce in the second half some time, which are part of things their coach need to impact his players before their next game. Milan defense was so strong from the beginning of this tournament but their defense started reducing few months ago which their coach can still do something about it before the end of the season.

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