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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 23, 2023, 07:49:33 PM
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Bayern Munich are still the second biggest favourite team for the Champions League title despite losing Lewandowski to Barcelona.

Many people including me were waiting for seeing them struggling in this season about keeping their usual scoring productivity. They had a time period that they had a problem like that in fact but it didn't take them too long. They are still the same Bayern Munich we are used to watch now. Choupo-Moting is doing a great work and this helped Bayern Munich postpone a top striker transfer to a later date also. But I really wonder what they will do against one of the biggest title contenders which is PSG. These days PSG are having some problems in defense and maybe this can be a good chance for Bayern Munich to make bigger difficulties for them.

But only if you clarify the chances that the bookmakers give to the teams, this second place does not look so serious: City is quoted as 2.5, and Bayern as 6.5. PSG, by the way, is listed very close as 6.75, the rest are a little further - Liverpool are in fourth place with odds of 8.5 and so on. I'm not sure if Bayern - PSG should be called a hidden final, but after this stage, the chances of City and the team that will be stronger in this confrontation will be much closer, I think.

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January 23, 2023, 07:51:30 PM
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With big clubs, experience is more important than recent form and if their players still have ambition and reasons to fight, they can play very well. Like Liverpool, they are in a bad season with many problems from injuries to bad performances of players. Nevertheless I think their players have more willingness to fight in Champions League. They still have a good squad and Premier League is over for them as they can not beat Arsenal or Manchester City to win Premier League. In Champions League, knock-out phase will start in February and they can win a few matches and have another final match.
There are less matches in Champions League to win its trophy and with knock-out matches, everything can occur.
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Because there is no more experienced team than Real Madrid on a platform like the Champions League. I also checked the results of the previous head-to-head matches between these two teams. The Liverpool team could not win even one of the last 6 head to head matches. Real Madrid won 5 matches and drew 1 match. In addition, in these 6 matches, Liverpool scored only 2 goals, on the other hand, Real Madrid scored 11 goals. The Liverpool team will be much ahead in the statistics of the previous matches.
Experience and form are different things. Even a club have excellent form but if they don't have enough experience in Champions League, they can lose easily in knock-out phase.
Real Madrid won many trophies there because they are a big club, with so great tradition and their players already experienced many matches in Champions League against big giants there. With a pride of champion and strong mentality, they don't give up if matches have yet ended.
In the past season, Real Madrid reverted many matches so impressively with many big victims PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City. Liverpool is one of favorite opponents for Real Madrid. During Klopp era, many times Real Madrid won against Liverpool.

To a certain extent, I disagree with what you have said. It is true that experience is significant, but the form of the players also has a huge impact on the mood of the players, which is evident on the field as well. Due to the fact that Liverpool have had a difficult season so far, I don't think that they will be able to give Real Madrid a hard time in this game. It has always been a difficult task to beat them, even with an on-form Liverpool squad, let alone one that is off-form. My prediction is that Real Madrid will win this game.

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January 23, 2023, 08:00:55 PM
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Real Madrid has a good record against Liverpool. But based on those statistics alone, they are not the favorite, after all, that does not say everything. If you look at the current form of both teams, it makes sense that Madrid is the favourite. There seems to be no improvement in Liverpool's game, and in the league they are losing to mediocre opponents. The fact that Virgil van Dijk has dropped out will not help them either. I wonder if Klopp can still repair the damage. After all, the confidence of the team has also taken a big bite. Perhaps Liverpool can fully focus on the CL and bring out the best in it. They have nothing to win in the league in England anyway.

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January 23, 2023, 08:13:59 PM
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on paper, Madrid should have won the match even though the first leg was played away. Benzema and his colleagues will take advantage of this momentum to move smoothly into the next round phase. however, maybe Liverpool can surprise us because it's not uncommon for them to play great games against strong teams.

Liverpool's performance may be a bit erratic right now. But don't forget that Liverpool is experienced teams on the Champions League platform. At the same time Liverpool's squad is very strong. There are many star players in the squad. And so if Real Madrid makes any mistakes against Liverpool they will not win. At the same time, I would say that if Benzema is unable to perform against Liverpool for some reason, Real Madrid's chances of winning are very slim. But if Real Madrid can play with their full squad, they will have more chances to win against Liverpool.
Liverpool and Real Madrid are worthy of this Champions League final. But I think Real Madrid is in better shape than Liverpool. If I had to choose between who wins this match, I would choose Real Madrid. I think they will win away and at home. Liverpool have not won six games in a row against Real Madrid and only one ended in a draw.
By considering statistics head to head and in the current both of them league, Indeed Real Madrid is ahead and better rather than Liverpool, but I agree with @Minor Miner if without Benzema Real Madrid seems to lose. Hopefully Benzema is healthy and not injured. This match is also still long, so still have time for both to improve their performance which is currently not so good.

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January 23, 2023, 08:17:38 PM
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Here I have to say one thing with the resources, quality and performance surely Manchester City deserve the title of the Champions League, but sadly they are the unluckiest team in UEFA history which fail to win this title despite having all things to win but just missing luck is enough for them to never won this title as already mentioned Mourinho is the only coach who won this title with three different teams and many others achieve this all is surely great achievements, but sadly they have never been enough lucky to do this for their own sack even right now I have feeling in this season they will be not able to win because they are having some trouble in last few matches, and they need to fix this all before big show started, and they have to perform as par for the win otherwise this could be again same story for them.

Mourinho, a great coach who has won the Champions League for many clubs, is struggling to win even one for Manchester City. Maybe his luck isn't with them to win the Champions League. When it comes to a full squad of talented players capable of winning the Champions League, Manchester City appears to have them all. Should we say that their chances of winning the Champions League do not rest solely with Mourinho? I wish they could win it this year, but given their recent performance,I believe it will be extremely difficult for them to do so.

It may not be as expected. In the final they played against Chelsea, everyone saw City as the favourite, but they lost the trophy to Chelsea. They may look bad this year, but when it comes to the cup, UCL is an area where every team player is extra motivated and they will always be one of the strong candidates for the championship.

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January 23, 2023, 08:17:48 PM
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Mourinho, a great coach who has won the Champions League for many clubs, is struggling to win even one for Manchester City. Maybe his luck isn't with them to win the Champions League. When it comes to a full squad of talented players capable of winning the Champions League, Manchester City appears to have them all. Should we say that their chances of winning the Champions League do not rest solely with Mourinho? I wish they could win it this year, but given their recent performance, I believe it will be extremely difficult for them to do so.
At least you should know what you're talking about.
Mourinho? Manchester City? what joke are you saying?
Manchester City are currently coached by Pep and have nothing to do with Mourinho and when you want to talk about Mourinho maybe you should move to the Europa League because Roma are there.
I think you should follow more before talking about something because this has nothing to do with it.

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January 23, 2023, 09:26:12 PM
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The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.
Some of their injured players are already coming back from injuries, I heard Loftus Cheek is back as well as Ngolo Kante who is now training with the first team so Hopefully in a matter of time Chelsea will get back to momentum and back to winning ways again. They have good players and with the new additions the team will improve and get better soon. I can't say much about qualifying to the quarter finals of the Champions league but their comeback will determine that.

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January 23, 2023, 09:31:18 PM
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Chelsea has some great signing player's
But potter still needs to be sacked because he cannot coach a great club as Chelsea
Linked with Zidane he will not do a better job either not even Pochetino who is not having no tactics
Did you watched the last match of chelsea in domestic league?

Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

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January 23, 2023, 09:34:46 PM
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The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.
Some of their injured players are already coming back from injuries, I heard Loftus Cheek is back as well as Ngolo Kante who is now training with the first team so Hopefully in a matter of time Chelsea will get back to momentum and back to winning ways again. They have good players and with the new additions the team will improve and get better soon. I can't say much about qualifying to the quarter finals of the Champions league but their comeback will determine that.
For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent.  I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter,  he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.
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January 23, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
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You are somewhat right. Even if the team's performance is erratic, it is possible to perform well in the Champions League. And the Chelsea team proved it. But in this case the help of luck is very much needed. At the same time, the match strategy of an experienced coach is needed. I would say that if the match strategy is not good, it is very difficult to do well in a platform like Champions League. Good match strategy and good luck can do well in the Champions League. Manchester City and PSG have yet to win the Champions League despite spending huge sums each season.
Everything plays a role, especially in such a tournament as the Champions League, when the playoffs come, where each opponent is a very strong team. If we are talking about the right strategy, yes it is very important, but sometimes it happens that the strategy needs to be changed during the match, and this is already experienced, and Potter and Galtier do not have much experience. Will Mudrik be able to play for Chelsea in the Champions League? After all, he has already played this season for Shakhtar in the Champions League.

You are right. A coach's experience plays an important role in the Champions League. Because every Champions League match is very important. And so decisions have to be made very quickly during the match and the match strategy may need to be changed. In this case, Potter and Galtier are not very experienced but they have a strong squad but they will be behind considering the experience of the coach. However, it is difficult to make predictions about Champions League matches. Be ready for any surprise.
Sometimes I just feel the champion league is an unlucky league for some clubs. Even with a formidable team and experienced coach, Manchester City in the final stage, lose to Chelsea which was filled with average players as of then, this makes me believe that any team can lose at any phase of the champion league tournament. So Speaking of Graham Porter, I won't be surprised if I see Chelsea lose to Borussia Dortmund in the champion league round of 16 this season because The club still looks unstable even with the arrival of 3 supper signings.

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January 23, 2023, 11:47:12 PM
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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent.  I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter,  he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.
Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.

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Sometimes I just feel the champion league is an unlucky league for some clubs. Even with a formidable team and experienced coach, Manchester City in the final stage, lose to Chelsea which was filled with average players as of then, this makes me believe that any team can lose at any phase of the champion league tournament. So Speaking of Graham Porter, I won't be surprised if I see Chelsea lose to Borussia Dortmund in the champion league round of 16 this season because The club still looks unstable even with the arrival of 3 supper signings.
It is not luck it is just the nature of the tournament, on European soccer leagues the champion of the local league is the team which scores the most points during the season, so the best team should be the one to win as consistency is the key in such a format, but when a tournament follows the knockout stage format, in which a single loss is enough to eliminate them then anything can happen as even teams which may not be as strong can eliminate better teams if circumstances happen to favor them on that particular day.
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January 24, 2023, 03:26:19 AM
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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent.  I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter,  he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.
Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.
yes, Chelsea still has time to make its best squad in the best performance before the meeting with Dortmund. this will probably require quite a lot of hard work from the coach to do it. the names of the matches will be replaced by new names, and of course, it will also take time for players to have chemistry.
hopefully, the money spent by Chelsea can make their game improve. if they still finish in the middle of the Premier League standings, that means they have suffered a big failure.



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January 24, 2023, 05:09:59 AM
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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent.  I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter,  he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.
Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.
The major challenge that is causing Chelsea failure in this season is in the area of midfield because, since they removed the old midfielders and replaced with new ones has reduced Chelsea performance to zero level in this season. I guess, Chelsea can still get it right to improve in all their position to give their fans joy because, many people are not happy with their current performance. I believe they will beat Dortmund 2:0 to prepare the mind of people for a bigger victory.

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January 24, 2023, 05:19:43 AM
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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.

The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.
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January 24, 2023, 05:40:56 AM
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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent.  I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter,  he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.
Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.
yes, Chelsea still has time to make its best squad in the best performance before the meeting with Dortmund. this will probably require quite a lot of hard work from the coach to do it. the names of the matches will be replaced by new names, and of course, it will also take time for players to have chemistry.
hopefully, the money spent by Chelsea can make their game improve. if they still finish in the middle of the Premier League standings, that means they have suffered a big failure.

Chelsea's performance has not been good in the last few matches. Players have lost form. They are failing to give their best performance. So Chelsea won only 1 of the last 5 matches. They need to improve more. I don't see good performances from their attacking players in the last matches. Darmund, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be doing much better now. Like Chelsea, Dortmund's situation is also somewhat unstable. Both teams still have plenty of time to find their weaknesses and fix them. But I am not sure how successful they will be

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January 24, 2023, 08:11:06 AM
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The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

In the Frankfurt vs Napoli match, however, Napoli seems to be favourites. Because they have been performing consistently well since the beginning of the season. Napoli are at the top of the Serie A points table. And they are dominating every match and managing to win. But it is difficult to speculate on Frankfurt's performance. Frankfurt has the ability to surprise everyone with a win against any big team.

PSG and Bayern Munich are two very strong teams. And both are aiming for the Champions League title. And I would say that both have the ability to win the Champions League title. And so it is not possible to predict the outcome of this match. Both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning.

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January 24, 2023, 08:37:54 AM
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Chelsea has some great signing player's
But potter still needs to be sacked because he cannot coach a great club as Chelsea
Linked with Zidane he will not do a better job either not even Pochetino who is not having no tactics
Did you watched the last match of chelsea in domestic league?
There are some improvements that happened with Chelsea. Chelsea was getting a good result to be drawn in the anfield. Chelsea was also pressing Liverpool in anfield which liverpool's home. Mudryk has been performing so well with Chelsea. It seems like that Chelsea will be starting to improve its performance in EPL. I hope that will be also giving impact to the performance of club in UCL.



Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

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January 24, 2023, 10:13:42 AM
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not really, teams like PSG and Man City struggle in the champions league even with the good players they have, their leagues and the Champions League are two different competitions and we saw some inconsistencies in their performance and one bad match is all it takes for th to be out of it.
The inconsistencies that happened with city and PSG already happened since a few years ago. I know both have sent so much money but yeah those clubs were not so lucky competing in the UCL. PSG and City have been hiring great coaches but these two teams seem very difficult winning UCL trophy especially pep guardiola who has been aiming to get UCL since he was coming to manchester city, city was very consistent in the EPL but it's not in another competition like UCL.
That proves that it doesn't matter how big your team and winning UCL is still a very difficult task to be done.
They have money, they have very quality players, they also have a great coach. But those facts do not guarantee that there will be great success for them in the Champions League. They are still unable to compete with a team that has a sweet history in this Champions League. Even so, they are quite lucky because with the money they have, they can talk more about the Champions League even though they haven't tasted the title yet.
That's it. You get my points. that reminds me of an underrated team that was always getting blamed by various supporters like Chelsea. This club was actually getting underrated but this club was able to win UCL a few times compared with those clubs which has lots of money for the domestic league only. Manchester City and PSG were always good in qualifying for the champion league but not for being able to win the competition. I don't know why people were always picking those clubs as most favorites while they never won UCL at least 1 time.
Money may buy you the spot to be played in the champion league but it's not about giving you a guarantee to become a champion in UCL. History has proven it.

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January 24, 2023, 10:35:52 AM
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Chelsea has some great signing player's
But potter still needs to be sacked because he cannot coach a great club as Chelsea
Linked with Zidane he will not do a better job either not even Pochetino who is not having no tactics
Did you watched the last match of chelsea in domestic league?
There are some improvements that happened with Chelsea. Chelsea was getting a good result to be drawn in the anfield. Chelsea was also pressing Liverpool in anfield which liverpool's home. Mudryk has been performing so well with Chelsea. It seems like that Chelsea will be starting to improve its performance in EPL. I hope that will be also giving impact to the performance of club in UCL.
For now, I can't be sure that Chelsea's position can really improve. Because to be able to appear qualified with the current composition has not shown significant progress. It takes a long process to rise from adversity. Little by little, Chelsea's hopes can be seen, but that doesn't mean the result is satisfactory. There are still quite a lot of twists and turns that they will face. If at the end of this season, Chelsea cannot finish, maybe they will have a little trouble gaining the trust of the fans. What's more, coach Potter still can't solve the problem in his own team.

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