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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 24, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
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The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.
Some of their injured players are already coming back from injuries, I heard Loftus Cheek is back as well as Ngolo Kante who is now training with the first team so Hopefully in a matter of time Chelsea will get back to momentum and back to winning ways again. They have good players and with the new additions the team will improve and get better soon. I can't say much about qualifying to the quarter finals of the Champions league but their comeback will determine that.

Only relying on good players based on their individual skills, that doesn't help much in today's modern football. bringing in Mudryk is not the answer to everything Chelsea needs. Chelsea must also build from the defense sector, midfield, as well as sharp finishing. and right now, Potter could only take advantage of the available players. there is no other choice, until all the players recover from injury. that way Potter has many choices, according to what he wants to be his main starting line-up.

To be honest with the current situation, I really doubt that Chelsea will be able to move on to the next phase. if against Dortmund, Chelsea still has a chance to win the round of 16 match. but in the next phase, it looks like it will be very difficult for Graham Potter's squad.

As for the opponent later, Dortmund started its first match in the second round of the season with perfect results. although, there are still some gaps that become their weaknesses. I think Dortmund is not an easy opponent for Chelsea to beat. the reason is, Dortmund is in a transition in a better direction. Let's just see the development of these two teams, carry out their matches in the domestic league before the round of 16 starts.

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January 24, 2023, 10:50:24 AM
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The major challenge that is causing Chelsea failure in this season is in the area of midfield because, since they removed the old midfielders and replaced with new ones has reduced Chelsea performance to zero level in this season. I guess, Chelsea can still get it right to improve in all their position to give their fans joy because, many people are not happy with their current performance. I believe they will beat Dortmund 2:0 to prepare the mind of people for a bigger victory.
It's still too early to predict the number of goals in the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, although it wouldn't be wrong to say it earlier because the match won't happen in the near future where both teams still have time to prepare themselves so they can be even better before the game Top 16 in the Champions League this season. Because Dortmund's appearance in the past two days in their domestic league also looked impressive with the victory that Dortmund got.
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January 24, 2023, 11:01:42 AM
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As a Chelsea supporter, I'm thrilled with the team's potential for improvement brought about by our recent signings.
New players are new blood streams for Chelsea and they are useful for them when many players are still injured or have yet recovered fully.

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t's true that it'll take some time for the team to gel and the coach to execute new methods, but I have trust that our leadership can handle the situation.
New players usually need time for training and playing with new coach and team-mates before they actually adapt to a new club with many new things: management philosophy, tactics, training center, build connections with new team-mates. It is so rarely to see newcomers can create big impacts shortly and if they succeed, they must be outstanding players and have lucky support too.

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Remembering that football is a team sport in which the success of the team depends on the efforts of each individual member is equally crucial. I think we have a shot at the playoffs if we can enhance our performance with the correct strategies and a concerted team effort.
That is what I am worrying about Chelsea situation. New players can not change all things including weakness in the club especially systematic weakness. They can bring some new motives but can not improve the club entirely. However if they can create some short-live effects which can be took advantage by other members in the club, some big impacts can happen.

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January 24, 2023, 12:08:58 PM
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Real Madrid this year is not in the best of their shape so Manchester City could have a chance.They just need to play relaxed as they surely have the man power to beat any team in the Champions League.I know that also Manchester City is not in the best of their form too but as I said they have truly world class players like Haaland which can clearly make a difference in this 2 encounters elimination.
It is true that Real Madrid this season has not been very convincing in its performance both in the regular league and in other competitions. Maybe the problem is due to the lack of refreshment in the midfield, we know that Modric and Kross are no longer able to be at the highest level due to the aging factor, in the end this problem causes the flow of the ball to the attack line to become clogged and sometimes deadlock. But I think we will find out how Real Madrid's performance will continue in the match that will start later against Liverpool. For Manchester City, for any team they will fight, it seems that it is not a bad problem for them. Having Halaand and De Bruyne all seem so easy this season.

I don't think we can judge Real Madrid just by its poor performance this season, because last season when Real Madrid won the Champions League was also the reality that Real Madrid was not having a very good performance. Not only that, even when Real Madrid played and then the available odds never put Real Madrid as the favorite team to win.
So, whatever performance Real Madrid is currently experiencing, they will still have the chance to go further and even win the title. But regarding Manchester City, I personally am still not completely sure because even though Manchester City has a very good squad, but they often find it difficult to win.
Indeed, when talking about Real Madrid in every game, we have to watch it until the last minute. Sometimes, even though they were behind by 2 or even 3 goals, Real Madrid was able to catch up and turn things around for Real Madrid's victory. So far, I actually don't see that there are too many problems, maybe it's just a matter of coordination in the midfield which I think will be a bit of a hindrance for the development of Real Madrid's game. In general, surely people will argue that the current Manchester City squad is the best, but we don't know if one of the matches of these two teams starts later. Will the performance continue to improve or even worsen.

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January 24, 2023, 12:13:06 PM
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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.
The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

I think it is a little to easy and to superficial to just compare their rank in their native leagues in order to find out who is the favorite in their champions league match. For example, i personally think that FC Chelsea is definitely the favorite in their match against Borussia Dortmund even though Chelsea is only on rank 10 in the premier league while Borussia Dortmund is on rank 6 in the Bundesliga.
Even though Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, i still think that they have good chances to win here because Dortmund is also not playing not very well. They have won their last game with 4-3 but they received 3 goals from a below average Bundesliga team.
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January 24, 2023, 12:30:26 PM
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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.
But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

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January 24, 2023, 12:35:45 PM
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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.
The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

I think it is a little to easy and to superficial to just compare their rank in their native leagues in order to find out who is the favorite in their champions league match. For example, i personally think that FC Chelsea is definitely the favorite in their match against Borussia Dortmund even though Chelsea is only on rank 10 in the premier league while Borussia Dortmund is on rank 6 in the Bundesliga.
Even though Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, i still think that they have good chances to win here because Dortmund is also not playing not very well. They have won their last game with 4-3 but they received 3 goals from a below average Bundesliga team.

I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
Dormunt may lose some of its players at the end of this transfer season while Chelsea has been getting so many new players coming to the club. The performance from mudryk was making me amaze if chelsea was doing the right transfer.
Even though the result was not making me feel satisfied but I do believe chelsea will be different when it will be facing dortmund. Potter has found a new strategy that is very suitable for Chelsea.

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I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
They will try to beat Dortmund because winning Champions League is something really big and attractive. It is especially important for Chelsea because they almost won't be able to complete the season in top four. Winning Champions League will give them a privilege to be eligible for Champions League 2023 - 2024 even if they end Premier League 2022 - 2023 not within top four.

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Dormunt may lose some of its players at the end of this transfer season while Chelsea has been getting so many new players coming to the club. The performance from mudryk was making me amaze if chelsea was doing the right transfer.
It is only very first minutes of Mudryk for Chelsea and it is too early to assess his performance and success in Chelsea. At least it gives Chelsea some hope that it is a good player and the expensive transfer is well deserved.

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Even though the result was not making me feel satisfied but I do believe chelsea will be different when it will be facing dortmund. Potter has found a new strategy that is very suitable for Chelsea.
What is a new strategy found by Potter? I did not see any big change in Chelsea after the winter transfer. Some players came to Stamford Bridge but it is very vague about what kind of contribution they can make for Chelsea.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.
But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

A draw with Liverpool in the Premier League still cannot be used as a benchmark for Chelsea's performance because even Liverpool are in a bad situation and condition this season. So, I can say Liverpool and Chelsea have decreased in quality this season so a draw for them still won't have any impact on their match in the Champions League.
Also, it doesn't matter how many new players they bring in, because it looks like this season will only be a season for them to make a few attempts to get back to having good quality next season.

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January 24, 2023, 06:28:04 PM
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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.

The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

But you forgot that Chelsea is playing with Dortmund which in turn is in sixth place in the Bundesliga. I think few people will argue that the Premier League, if we take the average level of teams, is stronger than the Bundesliga, so it turns out that Chelsea and Dortmund occupy comparable places. By the way, although Dortmund won in the last round, they conceded 3 goals from one of the outsiders in the home game. In my opinion, it is obvious that for Chelsea such an opponent is within their power.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.
But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

Lot of players have been brought in to Chelsea but how well has there been a transformation, all those good great players without a good tactician is useless.
Things will turn out well with Chelsea but not sure currently with potter still in charge of that club, is Zidane really linked to Chelsea as media and internet says? Chelsea need to improve those player's Jorginho and Kante need to leave.
Liverpool offering other players contract but failed to do with Mane, they never wanted him.

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January 24, 2023, 07:50:03 PM
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If Chelsea had Tuchel now then maybe he could have made his magic and helped Chelsea go for a surprising achievement in the Champions League once again. He did it once when people weren't giving them much chance for it. Of course it is a very difficult task as for comparing the squad qualities. But it is never impossible as long as you know what you are doing against the other title contenders.

I don't know how successful they can be with Potter's management at least this season. Dortmund can already be a big challenge for them considering the recent forms. But reaching at least the quarter finals despite the bad effort in the EPL would still be a nice job.

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January 24, 2023, 07:56:02 PM
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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.
But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

A draw with Liverpool in the Premier League still cannot be used as a benchmark for Chelsea's performance because even Liverpool are in a bad situation and condition this season. So, I can say Liverpool and Chelsea have decreased in quality this season so a draw for them still won't have any impact on their match in the Champions League.
Also, it doesn't matter how many new players they bring in, because it looks like this season will only be a season for them to make a few attempts to get back to having good quality next season.

It was an important fight for the Champions League qualifiers.  Both teams tried very hard on the field, but they could not beat.  This was actually a serious rehearsal for Liverpool before the Real Madrid match.  Likewise, we can call Chelsea a friendly match for Dortmund.  I see Chelsea more likely to win in the matchups, but I'm not sure what Liverpool can do against Real Madrid.

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January 24, 2023, 09:10:01 PM
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I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
They will try to beat Dortmund because winning Champions League is something really big and attractive. It is especially important for Chelsea because they almost won't be able to complete the season in top four. Winning Champions League will give them a privilege to be eligible for Champions League 2023 - 2024 even if they end Premier League 2022 - 2023 not within top four.
Winning UCL is a big deal, but Chelsea can't win UCL, no way possible and it's not going to happen. Even if they somehow managed to beat Dortmund which is possible, doesn't mean that they are going to beat everyone else that they face neither, they are going to lose to other teams that they will end up facing.

This is why I believe that the best they could do is beating Dortmund, maybe if they are lucky they will get one more easy draw, but that's it, that's the max they are going to get, semi finals are impossible for them, they will just be losing and they will be just facing harder and harder teams that they can't beat, look at them at the league and you will understand.
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January 24, 2023, 09:19:58 PM
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I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
They will try to beat Dortmund because winning Champions League is something really big and attractive. It is especially important for Chelsea because they almost won't be able to complete the season in top four. Winning Champions League will give them a privilege to be eligible for Champions League 2023 - 2024 even if they end Premier League 2022 - 2023 not within top four.
Winning UCL is a big deal, but Chelsea can't win UCL, no way possible and it's not going to happen. Even if they somehow managed to beat Dortmund which is possible, doesn't mean that they are going to beat everyone else that they face neither, they are going to lose to other teams that they will end up facing.

This is why I believe that the best they could do is beating Dortmund, maybe if they are lucky they will get one more easy draw, but that's it, that's the max they are going to get, semi finals are impossible for them, they will just be losing and they will be just facing harder and harder teams that they can't beat, look at them at the league and you will understand.
The present performance of Chelsea shows that it is impossible for them to win the UCL this season. There is no magic in it,even if they escape from Dortmund, they might not win their next match after the draw. It is obvious that Chelsea is lacking behind in their league,which I think might also affect their performance in UCL. There might be hope for them next season if they can qualify through to UCL
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January 24, 2023, 09:50:34 PM
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It was an important fight for the Champions League qualifiers.  Both teams tried very hard on the field, but they could not beat.  This was actually a serious rehearsal for Liverpool before the Real Madrid match.  Likewise, we can call Chelsea a friendly match for Dortmund.
Chelsea seem to be so inconsistent and with Graham potter as their manager, I don't see them going past Dortmund I see Chelsea more likely to win in the matchups,

but I'm not sure what Liverpool can do against Real Madrid.
This one is obvious. Real Madrid may have had their poor for in the recent games, but the return of Benzema is a big boast to them. Liverpool on the other hand just don't seem to have things going right. Salah is a shadow of his former glory.

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January 24, 2023, 10:05:09 PM
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The present performance of Chelsea shows that it is impossible for them to win the UCL this season. There is no magic in it,even if they escape from Dortmund, they might not win their next match after the draw. It is obvious that Chelsea is lacking behind in their league,which I think might also affect their performance in UCL. There might be hope for them next season if they can qualify through to UCL
With Chelsea's current condition it is unthinkable for many people to win the Champions League and for next season it will also be difficult to qualify for the Champions League because considering that Chelsea is currently ranked 10th in the Premier League standings. So that there are six positions that Chelsea must fight for if they want to qualify for the Champions League next season and I think that this is not an easy task for Chelsea this season with the current conditions.

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January 24, 2023, 10:21:48 PM
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It was an important fight for the Champions League qualifiers.  Both teams tried very hard on the field, but they could not beat.  This was actually a serious rehearsal for Liverpool before the Real Madrid match.  Likewise, we can call Chelsea a friendly match for Dortmund.  I see Chelsea more likely to win in the matchups, but I'm not sure what Liverpool can do against Real Madrid.
The performance from real madrid is far compared with Liverpool. Liverpool was still struggling with its performance when madrid is always winning the match. Madrid was only losing against Barcelona and a few teams in la liga but it's not as bad as Liverpool at this moment.
I see that if Liverpool was at the disadvantage compared with madrid at this moment. In my opinion, people shall be aware if real madrid must be more favorite compared with Liverpool but the bookies gave real madrid huge odds which is good.
Bookies favor liverpool in the first leg of champion.

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January 24, 2023, 10:48:56 PM
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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.
I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.
But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.
It's better even when todd was gambling. You must also be aware of how bad the performance from Chelsea. Even if todd was not buying many players and Chelsea was not even balanced. I see that todd has a reason for that. Chelsea has been facing so many losses against other teams. I personally think that as long as Chelsea will become better with so many new players and I'm not seeing any problem with it for sure. Gakpo was not even performing so well during his debut with Liverpool.

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January 24, 2023, 11:13:23 PM
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I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
Dormunt may lose some of its players at the end of this transfer season while Chelsea has been getting so many new players coming to the club. The performance from mudryk was making me amaze if chelsea was doing the right transfer.
Even though the result was not making me feel satisfied but I do believe chelsea will be different when it will be facing dortmund. Potter has found a new strategy that is very suitable for Chelsea.
With Chelsea’s recent signings it is expected that we will see some improvements in the coming games, I can't say if those improvements will come in immediately or later but I'm sure the new signings will bring improvements and change things around. At the moment I think Chelsea have a higher probability of getting improvements with the recent additions than Dortmund who might lose some key players again in this window.
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