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[Ownski]

Oh look still no new wallet... you guys sure love blowing smoke up peoples rear 

[WhiteNotWright]

I like the idea of a membership for voting as it does raise coin and is a little more honest, however we may still have questions raised about how you would prevent hundreds of bogus membership registrations (votes). Again, we are back to buying votes, no?

I'm all for Official Membership, its a great way to raise founds, also using it as an official voting tool can be done properly without the fear of fake account. It has to be manage by the Foundation, you become a member of the foundation by registering with a valid ID.

Now, before people bitch about anonymity, remember this has nothing to do with wallets, address, transaction, spending of any kind or how much you have... and since the WCF will be an official non-profit recognized by the Government of Canada, it is protected under the law and privacy will be respected. This would be a solely voting membership, no different of your Costco membership or political affiliation.

This way we get an honest community, engage and able to vote, transparent and totally legit. If you want to vote, you have to be a registered member.

Does this make sense?

What would constitute a valid ID?

Blockbuster membership card

That would be up for debate...my idea is far from perfect but it's a start, let's throw more ideas in the pot

Nope you are correct, this is a difficult issue.  Something to consider would be the use of a Thrid-party verification system (e.g. Precise ID) thus validating the ID, yet not providing sensitive information to the foundation or its entities (for those folks that are earnest, yet recluse but n0t shady). Not sure how this type of an arrangement could be global in nature and integrated into the wallet, but mamma always said if you can think it, you can do it. I am not an expert in Third-Party Verification systems, but a simple trip to the internet spills lots of options. Or, maybe signed certificates from Verisign of the like?

[WhiteNotWright]

Oh look still no new wallet... you guys sure love blowing smoke up peoples rear 

Did you have functionality you wanted to have implemented in the wallet that has not already been discussed?

[delphs]

Oh look still no new wallet... you guys sure love blowing smoke up peoples rear 

What's wrong with your wallet that is so important to have a new one now?

[surfguy72]

I like the idea of a membership for voting as it does raise coin and is a little more honest, however we may still have questions raised about how you would prevent hundreds of bogus membership registrations (votes). Again, we are back to buying votes, no?

I'm all for Official Membership, its a great way to raise founds, also using it as an official voting tool can be done properly without the fear of fake account. It has to be manage by the Foundation, you become a member of the foundation by registering with a valid ID.

Now, before people bitch about anonymity, remember this has nothing to do with wallets, address, transaction, spending of any kind or how much you have... and since the WCF will be an official non-profit recognized by the Government of Canada, it is protected under the law and privacy will be respected. This would be a solely voting membership, no different of your Costco membership or political affiliation.

This way we get an honest community, engage and able to vote, transparent and totally legit. If you want to vote, you have to be a registered member.

Does this make sense?

What would constitute a valid ID?

Blockbuster membership card

That would be up for debate...my idea is far from perfect but it's a start, let's throw more ideas in the pot

Haha, very good points.  And Whitenotwright made a good point earlier about preventing multiple registrations which would be like fixing the vote.  Its a worthy discussion and an obvious missing point in my original post.  I saw a previous post from Mogonzo talking about the registration, so its possible there would be legal protection to your privacy should information be required.  Its a major issue we'd have to resolve, but i'm glad the idea of members and such is resonating. 

I do not feel like it would be buying votes again however (with a proper identification system in place.)  Once the registration due is paid, you'd be a member.  Any further voting would not require re-registration, and I'm not sure I like the idea of continuing paying any type of due, just a one time deal.  However, if i'm missing a point here, let me know.

[delphs]

I like the idea of a membership for voting as it does raise coin and is a little more honest, however we may still have questions raised about how you would prevent hundreds of bogus membership registrations (votes). Again, we are back to buying votes, no?

I'm all for Official Membership, its a great way to raise founds, also using it as an official voting tool can be done properly without the fear of fake account. It has to be manage by the Foundation, you become a member of the foundation by registering with a valid ID.

Now, before people bitch about anonymity, remember this has nothing to do with wallets, address, transaction, spending of any kind or how much you have... and since the WCF will be an official non-profit recognized by the Government of Canada, it is protected under the law and privacy will be respected. This would be a solely voting membership, no different of your Costco membership or political affiliation.

This way we get an honest community, engage and able to vote, transparent and totally legit. If you want to vote, you have to be a registered member.

Does this make sense?

What would constitute a valid ID?

Blockbuster membership card

That would be up for debate...my idea is far from perfect but it's a start, let's throw more ideas in the pot

Haha, very good points.  And Whitenotwright made a good point earlier about preventing multiple registrations which would be like fixing the vote.  Its a worthy discussion and an obvious missing point in my original post.  I saw a previous post from Mogonzo talking about the registration, so its possible there would be legal protection to your privacy should information be required.  Its a major issue we'd have to resolve, but i'm glad the idea of members and such is resonating. 

I do not feel like it would be buying votes again however (with a proper identification system in place.)  Once the registration due is paid, you'd be a member.  Any further voting would not require re-registration, and I'm not sure I like the idea of continuing paying any type of due, just a one time deal.  However, if i'm missing a point here, let me know.

It has to either be a yearly membership or lifetime... I lean towards lifetime

[surfguy72]

I like the idea of a membership for voting as it does raise coin and is a little more honest, however we may still have questions raised about how you would prevent hundreds of bogus membership registrations (votes). Again, we are back to buying votes, no?

I'm all for Official Membership, its a great way to raise founds, also using it as an official voting tool can be done properly without the fear of fake account. It has to be manage by the Foundation, you become a member of the foundation by registering with a valid ID.

Now, before people bitch about anonymity, remember this has nothing to do with wallets, address, transaction, spending of any kind or how much you have... and since the WCF will be an official non-profit recognized by the Government of Canada, it is protected under the law and privacy will be respected. This would be a solely voting membership, no different of your Costco membership or political affiliation.

This way we get an honest community, engage and able to vote, transparent and totally legit. If you want to vote, you have to be a registered member.

Does this make sense?

What would constitute a valid ID?

Blockbuster membership card

That would be up for debate...my idea is far from perfect but it's a start, let's throw more ideas in the pot

Haha, very good points.  And Whitenotwright made a good point earlier about preventing multiple registrations which would be like fixing the vote.  Its a worthy discussion and an obvious missing point in my original post.  I saw a previous post from Mogonzo talking about the registration, so its possible there would be legal protection to your privacy should information be required.  Its a major issue we'd have to resolve, but i'm glad the idea of members and such is resonating. 

I do not feel like it would be buying votes again however (with a proper identification system in place.)  Once the registration due is paid, you'd be a member.  Any further voting would not require re-registration, and I'm not sure I like the idea of continuing paying any type of due, just a one time deal.  However, if i'm missing a point here, let me know.

It has to either be a yearly membership or lifetime... I lean towards lifetime

I lean towards lifetime as well.  There could always be other fundraising drives should the need be there.  Buy this awesome t-shirt for $25, proceeds go to the WCF type deal haha.

[surfguy72]

I deal with a lot of european suppliers, and I'm already starting to see some out of office notifications.  Can someone point me to a resource that states the countries that take their vacations in August?

[delphs]

I deal with a lot of european suppliers, and I'm already starting to see some out of office notifications.  Can someone point me to a resource that states the countries that take their vacations in August?

there's nothing out there because it's not an official thing... historically most of Europe takes their vacation in August, it's more of a tradition then anything else.

you can find specific civil holiday here that people might arrange vacation around
http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/

[neoxxx]

I like the idea of a membership for voting as it does raise coin and is a little more honest, however we may still have questions raised about how you would prevent hundreds of bogus membership registrations (votes). Again, we are back to buying votes, no?

I'm all for Official Membership, its a great way to raise founds, also using it as an official voting tool can be done properly without the fear of fake account. It has to be manage by the Foundation, you become a member of the foundation by registering with a valid ID.

Now, before people bitch about anonymity, remember this has nothing to do with wallets, address, transaction, spending of any kind or how much you have... and since the WCF will be an official non-profit recognized by the Government of Canada, it is protected under the law and privacy will be respected. This would be a solely voting membership, no different of your Costco membership or political affiliation.

This way we get an honest community, engage and able to vote, transparent and totally legit. If you want to vote, you have to be a registered member.

Does this make sense?

What would constitute a valid ID?

Blockbuster membership card

That would be up for debate...my idea is far from perfect but it's a start, let's throw more ideas in the pot

Haha, very good points.  And Whitenotwright made a good point earlier about preventing multiple registrations which would be like fixing the vote.  Its a worthy discussion and an obvious missing point in my original post.  I saw a previous post from Mogonzo talking about the registration, so its possible there would be legal protection to your privacy should information be required.  Its a major issue we'd have to resolve, but i'm glad the idea of members and such is resonating.  

I do not feel like it would be buying votes again however (with a proper identification system in place.)  Once the registration due is paid, you'd be a member.  Any further voting would not require re-registration, and I'm not sure I like the idea of continuing paying any type of due, just a one time deal.  However, if i'm missing a point here, let me know.

It has to either be a yearly membership or lifetime... I lean towards lifetime

I lean towards lifetime as well.  There could always be other fundraising drives should the need be there.  Buy this awesome t-shirt for $25, proceeds go to the WCF type deal haha.

...I was thinking that we can create a community on the site http://whitecoinfoundation.org, where each member will be recorded, pay for activation "x btc" to the foundation, receive a gadget chosen by him based on the donation and subsequent will be entitled to vote.

[CryptoSEO]

I am on holiday and have to say thank you again to the great dumping service by manipulator to keep filling my wallet with more WC See i just have to set my buy orders above his/theirs and let them do the work for me

600k at 82 bought, another 400k at 77 bought and more orders still waiting for them to fill for me as they keep trying to push price down, wc keeps moving to strong hands/wallets like mine, thanks!

So that means another 1M WC currently out of play on Mintpal and I (and others) will continue to purchase more and more, so sad for others because once it hits my wallet, its not for sale...

[WhiteNotWright]

Lifetime registration sounds like something prestigious as well (Member Since) with annual dues. Also, as long as the coin is never connected with the actual membership (a point that I did not fully consider) I don't think there is a real issue. I still think some folks might shy away from providing personal information, especially to foreign entities. Wish I had more technical insight to know how you could pull this off, but somehow there needs to be a validation system connected to the coin that legitimizes your status, yet disconnected from the foundation. I am still thinking along the lines of having a open-source methods that is not too far off from signing certificates SSL's, etc.

[Hypethewhite]

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

[delphs]

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Nice shiny new account there buddy

[WhiteNotWright]

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Not sure what you are asking. Can you speak English?

[Hypethewhite]

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Not sure what you are asking. Can you speak English?

Nope, prefer chinese

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Nice shiny new account there buddy

Thx, just saw the low entry point and want to know the interesst of the group. I get it and it looks like that I am not welcome.
cheers

[delphs]

Thx, just saw the low entry point and want to know the interesst of the group. I get it and it looks like that I am not welcome.
cheers

it's more like you came in with your own agenda and not communication with the community.

Everybody's welcome, your approach is just wrong

[kingscrown]

mindfox disappeared - this coin is dying now

[bitboy2000]

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Not sure what you are asking. Can you speak English?

Nope, prefer chinese

In the near futur we will not get any new Updates or features. So is anyone intressted to start a hype on whitecoin, with the actually funktions?
I mean something like this
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/build-hype-25968.html
In the Moment there are only 20 mio coins at mintpal and the most of them are under 300sat (~10 mio coins).  So it is a good opportunity to start a hype.
What do you thing?

Nice shiny new account there buddy

Thx, just saw the low entry point and want to know the interesst of the group. I get it and it looks like that I am not welcome.
cheers

Hype is not productive.
Any coin needs to build services and have a purpose.
Its ok to be a copper commodity and not the gold standard as long as you are usefull.
Hype = Bullshit = Death of a coin. (longterm)
Fullfill a need.
 

[malbee]

I would like to move that the WCF invest in the deep investigation of a privacy function, thereby defining and implementing a Privacy function for Whitecoin.  Personally I believe that TOR is the least path to resistance with numerous examples to follow however, this deep review by Mindfox and other developers needs to start upon vetting of kick starting the Privacy project. 

My Vote = YES to Privacy Function

To further support the development of a Privacy function, Shair.com will be donating to the privacy project and once the WCF determines the approx efforts required, WCF creates the bounty, allocates % of its current donation wallet to the privacy project, additional donations can then be accepted and allocated this project with a donation by Shair.  I suspect that raising funds to cover this project shouldn't be an issue.

Other Items:

1. Shair.com is in the final stages of reviewing the legalities for its Community Investment Award, looking to provide an update early next week.  The current framework will  support the Community and WCF, just need the lawyers to sign off on it.

2. Shair.com would like to put forth that in addition to Privacy, that the WCF/Community consider smart contracts - the blockchain is where real innovation, value and differentiation is, Shair will support this process provided the Community decides that the investment to "smartify" the Whitecoin Network, is a path to follow.  Shair believes that this is the future (innovation of the blockchain) and would like to begin the process of evaluating the process of defining how this can be accomplished with Whitecoin, if the Community/WCF agree.

On behalf of Shair.com we look forward to supporting the growth of the Community, Whitecoin and The Whitecoin Foundation for the longterm.  Our initial investment has already been made (yes we are staking) with the very real potential of much more to follow as we continue to evaluate the path the community and WCF takes, in addition to the support of the community for Whitecoin, initiated projects and acceptance of Whitecoin by our interested Investors, Customers and Associates.

Jason Arnold
COO - Shair.com
VP The Whitecoin Foundation

Jason,

As always your presence and ideas are very welcomed.  I believe looking into utilizing the TOR network is an excellent idea, and I also believe with you, if a budget is prepared for implementation, there will be support in the community.

Recent articles revolving around bitcoin's blockchain have also been discussed, why not put that power to use.  The ability to utilize the power (POS) and the blockchain itself provides synergy where we (and almost every coin) has wastes.

Thanks Surfguy,

I wanted to add 1 more important enhancement to Whitecoin that I think warrants further technical review:

- Decrease confirmation times, aiming for sub 30 seconds which will enable Whitecoin to become much more suitable for fast transactions to support future mobile commerce (yes we would also want a mobile wallet but that putting the horse before the buggy so I think).

+3 

1. Privacy = YES
2. Smart Network = YES
3. Decreased Conf Time = YES

I keep mining, taking, staking and buying, WC has my full support!  This is going in a fantastic direction 

Bump 

Bump (again)