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November 23, 2017, 07:35:23 AM
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those who believe in monero, what do you think about the onion?  Huh ^^

It's garbage that has nothing more going for it other than shills pushing it, kind of like are doing here. Not to mention the paid sig campain that they are calling an airdrop. It is nothing but one big lie and as long as you scumsuckers get paid to shill it it will continue to drag idiot n00bs into it.

So if it is a big lie how it is possible that I am getting over 1000USD weekly just for the Signature?


Simple. That is obviously a lie also.


Because I like if people make money. I am on Monero since it was under 2 USD. As I wrote last year it will raise no one believed me. No I am a happy Monero Holder. Same will happen at Onions and I like if people can make some money.

Also the Tech is much better than XMR because it is running on Tor Nodes.

it is not a lie.
You get every week an airdrop, Arround 7% of your Holding. All the Holdings are getting for free during the airdrops between week 1 and 18 and now its arround 1000USD weekly before it was arround 600USD weekly.

Better read first before you tell Bullshit.

Edit:

Here you see the weekly Reports,

last time over 410 USers took part on the Airdrop.

https://deeponion.org/report.php?date=2017-11-17

And you see its real
Yes, onion is so much better than Monero. Why don't you fuck off to their thread and tell them that?
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November 23, 2017, 08:52:03 AM
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those who believe in monero, what do you think about the onion?  Huh ^^

It's garbage that has nothing more going for it other than shills pushing it, kind of like are doing here. Not to mention the paid sig campain that they are calling an airdrop. It is nothing but one big lie and as long as you scumsuckers get paid to shill it it will continue to drag idiot n00bs into it.

So if it is a big lie how it is possible that I am getting over 1000USD weekly just for the Signature?


Simple. That is obviously a lie also.


Because I like if people make money. I am on Monero since it was under 2 USD. As I wrote last year it will raise no one believed me. No I am a happy Monero Holder. Same will happen at Onions and I like if people can make some money.

Also the Tech is much better than XMR because it is running on Tor Nodes.

it is not a lie.
You get every week an airdrop, Arround 7% of your Holding. All the Holdings are getting for free during the airdrops between week 1 and 18 and now its arround 1000USD weekly before it was arround 600USD weekly.

Better read first before you tell Bullshit.

Edit:

Here you see the weekly Reports,

last time over 410 USers took part on the Airdrop.

https://deeponion.org/report.php?date=2017-11-17

And you see its real
Yes, onion is so much better than Monero. Why don't you fuck off to their thread and tell them that?
Give a man some coins he'll spam for a day, teach a man to fork coins he'll fork them all day long.


You are talking nonsense is better than  MONERO only CLOAKCOIN. In addition, it is 6% per annum .

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November 23, 2017, 08:59:26 AM
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those who believe in monero, what do you think about the onion?  Huh ^^

It's garbage that has nothing more going for it other than shills pushing it, kind of like are doing here. Not to mention the paid sig campain that they are calling an airdrop. It is nothing but one big lie and as long as you scumsuckers get paid to shill it it will continue to drag idiot n00bs into it.

So if it is a big lie how it is possible that I am getting over 1000USD weekly just for the Signature?


Simple. That is obviously a lie also.


Because I like if people make money. I am on Monero since it was under 2 USD. As I wrote last year it will raise no one believed me. No I am a happy Monero Holder. Same will happen at Onions and I like if people can make some money.

Also the Tech is much better than XMR because it is running on Tor Nodes.

it is not a lie.
You get every week an airdrop, Arround 7% of your Holding. All the Holdings are getting for free during the airdrops between week 1 and 18 and now its arround 1000USD weekly before it was arround 600USD weekly.

Better read first before you tell Bullshit.

Edit:

Here you see the weekly Reports,

last time over 410 USers took part on the Airdrop.

https://deeponion.org/report.php?date=2017-11-17

And you see its real
Yes, onion is so much better than Monero. Why don't you fuck off to their thread and tell them that?
Give a man some coins he'll spam for a day, teach a man to fork coins he'll fork them all day long.


You are talking nonsense is better than  MONERO only CLOAKCOIN. In addition, it is 6% per annum .

No you get arround 6-7% weekly in the airdrop. Than you get paid for Deeppoints every Sunday and the last is you get in the first year 10% POS annualy.
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November 23, 2017, 09:17:06 AM
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You are talking nonsense is better than  MONERO only CLOAKCOIN. In addition, it is 6% per annum .

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cloak/#!rich
Great cloak bro, you can now fight crime and wear your underpants above your pants.

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November 23, 2017, 05:22:04 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

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November 23, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

If worst comes to worse you could always delete everything other than ~/.bitmonero/lmdb/ and start from scratch. That would surely fix it Cheesy.

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November 23, 2017, 06:38:15 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

If worst comes to worse you could always delete everything other than ~/.bitmonero/lmdb/ and start from scratch. That would surely fix it Cheesy.

Please don't follow this. It's excessive and should only be tried as last resort. Besides, it might not even fix his issue.

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November 23, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

Few questions first:

1. Are you using the GUI or CLI?

2. Which version are you using?

3. If you're using the CLI, can you type "status" (without the quotation marks) into monerod and post the output here.

4. If you're using the GUI, can you go to the Settings page and press on "Show status". Subsequently, post the output here.

5. Can you find your transaction hash / ID on a block explorer?

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November 23, 2017, 06:59:50 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

Few questions first:

1. Are you using the GUI or CLI?

2. Which version are you using?

3. If you're using the CLI, can you type "status" (without the quotation marks) into monerod and post the output here.

4. If you're using the GUI, can you go to the Settings page and press on "Show status". Subsequently, post the output here.

5. Can you find your transaction hash / ID on a block explorer?

Thank you for the efforts.

It seems I am using an outdated version. The reason why didn't suspect this was bcause my monero daemon said "synchronised with the network" and the client also displayed "connected".
However after running it for two hours in the background now, it is stuck @block 1400001.

1) GUI

2) GUI version: 13253c3
embedded monero version: dd580d7

3) typing status into monerod confirmed it was stuck @block 1400001 and gave me a nice "update needed" info

4) I don't see a "show status" button anywhere (?)

5) nope, https://moneroblocks.info doesn't find it, but I guess it's impossible anyway to broadcast a transaction when my blockchain isn't fully synced?


My question now is: Can I just download the latest monero gui and replace the old files?

Thank you very much!

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November 23, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

Few questions first:

1. Are you using the GUI or CLI?

2. Which version are you using?

3. If you're using the CLI, can you type "status" (without the quotation marks) into monerod and post the output here.

4. If you're using the GUI, can you go to the Settings page and press on "Show status". Subsequently, post the output here.

5. Can you find your transaction hash / ID on a block explorer?

Thank you for the efforts.

It seems I am using an outdated version. The reason why didn't suspect this was bcause my monero daemon said "synchronised with the network" and the client also displayed "connected".
However after running it for two hours in the background now, it is stuck @block 1400001.

1) GUI

2) GUI version: 13253c3
embedded monero version: dd580d7

3) typing status into monerod confirmed it was stuck @block 1400001 and gave me a nice "update needed" info

4) I don't see a "show status" button anywhere (?)

5) nope, https://moneroblocks.info doesn't find it, but I guess it's impossible anyway to broadcast a transaction when my blockchain isn't fully synced?


My question now is: Can I just download the latest monero gui and replace the old files?

Thank you very much!

You're most likely running v0.10.3.1 (which is incompatible) if it's stuck on block 1400001. Can you first update your client?

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6390/how-do-i-upgrade-my-software-to-v0-11-1-0

^ These steps are applicable to upgrading from an older version than 0.11.0.0 as well.

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November 23, 2017, 09:51:45 PM
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[...]

You're most likely running v0.10.3.1 (which is incompatible) if it's stuck on block 1400001. Can you first update your client?

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6390/how-do-i-upgrade-my-software-to-v0-11-1-0

^ These steps are applicable to upgrading from an older version than 0.11.0.0 as well.

Thanks again. Not too difficult actually. Wink
However I still seem stuck @ -49486 blocks (I restarted both, Daemon and gui and am now stuck @49535). Here is the output of monerd running with
Code:
--log-level 1
for that extra information.

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November 23, 2017, 09:57:34 PM
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[...]

You're most likely running v0.10.3.1 (which is incompatible) if it's stuck on block 1400001. Can you first update your client?

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6390/how-do-i-upgrade-my-software-to-v0-11-1-0

^ These steps are applicable to upgrading from an older version than 0.11.0.0 as well.

Thanks again. Not too difficult actually. Wink
However I still seem stuck @ -49486 blocks (I restarted both, Daemon and gui and am now stuck @49535). Here is the output of monerd running with
Code:
--log-level 1
for that extra information.


To be clear, that's version 0.11.1.0 right? If so, try these steps:

1. Exit the daemon by typing "exit".

2. Exit the GUI as well.

3. Open a new command prompt from the same directory as monerod. This is done by first making sure your cursor isn't located on any of the files and subsequently pressing SHIFT + right click. It will give you an option to "Open command window here".

4. Now type the following command -> monero-blockchain-import.exe --pop-blocks 5000

5. If your blockchain isn't located in the default directory, you have to add the --data-dir flag as well. Thus -> monero-blockchain-import.exe --pop-blocks 5000 --data-dir path\to\your\blockchain

6. Open monerod.exe by double clicking on it.

7. Check, using the status command, whether it syncs past block 1400001 now.

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November 23, 2017, 10:08:59 PM
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Thanks, your answer gave me the important hint to what might be the problem. I had always started the daemon prior via a .bat to make sure it loads the blockchain to my external drive. However I didn't update the bat to point to the new files I had just installed!

It is now synchronizing! Very slowly, 20 blocks per second, but still...

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November 23, 2017, 10:41:50 PM
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Wallet-Monero Is a New Website Attempting to Steal Your XMR

https://themerkle.com/wallet-monero-is-a-new-website-attempting-to-steal-your-xmr/

WALLET-MONERO IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PROJECT

When people enter the phrase “Monero wallet” in any search engine, odds are they will come across the Wallet-Monero website sooner or later. While this website may seem genuine and somewhat professional, it is evident the service is not endorsed by the Monero community in any official capacity. There are a few working wallet solutions for Monero right now, with Ledger and TREZOR support to follow in the next few months.

The list of “approved” Monero wallets contains no mention of Wallet-Monero. This goes to show the company has no honest intentions whatsoever, and the service should be avoided at all costs. Although it may seem like a genuine web wallet solution, the only service people should trust is MyMonero, which is the only official web wallet and is run by the XMR developers themselves. Any other service claiming to provide similar functionality is not legitimate until proven otherwise....
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November 23, 2017, 11:33:19 PM
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Hey folks,

about 16h ago I made XMR transaction. Unfortunatelly the recipient is still waiting for it to arrive. My Monero-wallet displays BlockHeight 0 for that tx.
I tried
Code:
flush_txpool
and it seemed to cancle the tx.

However I tried to send the transaction again and it is again stuck with a BlockHeight 0.

Any suggestion on how to solve this?

Thanks,
Kryptowerk

If worst comes to worse you could always delete everything other than ~/.bitmonero/lmdb/ and start from scratch. That would surely fix it Cheesy.

Please don't follow this. It's excessive and should only be tried as last resort. Besides, it might not even fix his issue.

It was intended as a last resort suggestion.

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November 23, 2017, 11:58:33 PM
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ok, does anyone know how long it usually takes to get a transaction from mymonero to your kraken account?
I've been waiting for at least 4 hours now. is this normal?

it's not the first time I've done this, and I don't think i've messed up the address (copy pasted it)

Anyone know what's up?
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November 24, 2017, 12:04:06 AM
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ok, does anyone know how long it usually takes to get a transaction from mymonero to your kraken account?
I've been waiting for at least 4 hours now. is this normal?

it's not the first time I've done this, and I don't think i've messed up the address (copy pasted it)

Anyone know what's up?

My guess would be somebody is using the toaster at Kraken to... make toast.  It is therefore unavailable to process your deposit.  Just wait a week or so, I'm sure support will get back to you.  After toast.

Or there could be an unexpected problem.
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November 24, 2017, 12:23:40 AM
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hello guys !!
dev or admin are you developing this coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2451755.0 
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November 24, 2017, 12:48:44 AM
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ok, does anyone know how long it usually takes to get a transaction from mymonero to your kraken account?
I've been waiting for at least 4 hours now. is this normal?

it's not the first time I've done this, and I don't think i've messed up the address (copy pasted it)

Anyone know what's up?

My guess would be somebody is using the toaster at Kraken to... make toast.  It is therefore unavailable to process your deposit.  Just wait a week or so, I'm sure support will get back to you.  After toast.

Or there could be an unexpected problem.
Havent had a problem with kraken thusfar.. why do you think it's so unreliable?
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November 24, 2017, 12:52:11 AM
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Wallet-Monero Is a New Website Attempting to Steal Your XMR

https://themerkle.com/wallet-monero-is-a-new-website-attempting-to-steal-your-xmr/

WALLET-MONERO IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PROJECT

When people enter the phrase “Monero wallet” in any search engine, odds are they will come across the Wallet-Monero website sooner or later. While this website may seem genuine and somewhat professional, it is evident the service is not endorsed by the Monero community in any official capacity. There are a few working wallet solutions for Monero right now, with Ledger and TREZOR support to follow in the next few months.

The list of “approved” Monero wallets contains no mention of Wallet-Monero. This goes to show the company has no honest intentions whatsoever, and the service should be avoided at all costs. Although it may seem like a genuine web wallet solution, the only service people should trust is MyMonero, which is the only official web wallet and is run by the XMR developers themselves. Any other service claiming to provide similar functionality is not legitimate until proven otherwise....


Wow, awesome, so Trezor and Ledger support coming!
I was just about to ask, since I am definitly not up-to-date in regards to the XMR-train, if a light-wallet, comparable to the Electrum-Bitcoin wallet for example, is in near sight for a public release?

On a side note: In my option the lack of simple wallet solutions for the avarage joe-user is what keeps Monero from its well deserved mainstream success right now.
Ledger and Trezor support is a good start, though.

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