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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670994 times)
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October 12, 2020, 09:50:33 AM
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Buckle up people, XMR is leaving the launchpad, breaking resistance against FIAT and BTC.

The more I've seen this in the recent days and weeks, the more I think this price move is related to:
https://www.cnet.com/news/us-largest-dark-web-market-bust-seizes-6-5-million-from-179-drug-dealers/

The general "theory" is that Tor was exploited, but instead they talk about tracing Bitcoin transactions. I'd put money on the fact they successfully analysed BTC transaction, whether through mixers (that have proven to be flawed), then easily associated these transactions to exchange withdrawals, debit card uses etc.
Seems like drug lords are learning to launder their money properly again, in a secure manner.

Thank goodness drug dealers have never used cash to trade and they dont have bank accounts.....
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October 13, 2020, 08:08:35 PM
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Buckle up people, XMR is leaving the launchpad, breaking resistance against FIAT and BTC.

Well, it happened.

Hashrate going over the roof, 2.3GH/s it's crazy !!
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October 14, 2020, 04:07:34 PM
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CLI & GUI v0.17.1.0 'Oxygen Orion' released!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jb0vo9/cli_gui_v01710_oxygen_orion_released/

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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October 15, 2020, 09:48:45 AM
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why i cant withdraw monero from binance ?
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October 15, 2020, 11:09:32 AM
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why i cant withdraw monero from binance ?

What kind of error message is displayed?

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Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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October 15, 2020, 03:23:29 PM
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why i cant withdraw monero from binance ?

What kind of error message is displayed?

Rejected

i try send from binance to my coinomi
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October 15, 2020, 05:10:39 PM
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why i cant withdraw monero from binance ?

What kind of error message is displayed?

Rejected

i try send from binance to my coinomi

Can you verify the address on this website?

https://xmr.llcoins.net/addresstests.html

It was made by core-team member luigi1111. Basically, you need to enter the address in box '8. Public Address:'

Subsequently, press the 'Check Address' button.

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October 15, 2020, 10:20:53 PM
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As we watch the tree get shaken and the soft troll fud warnings pile in let us not forget this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q9upPs6-Ms&feature=youtu.be


I prefer to think common people are starting to protect their privacy. May be it's just wishfull thinking. Grin

^^^
Not just the common people. Grin

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October 16, 2020, 12:12:45 AM
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As we watch the tree get shaken and the soft troll fud warnings pile in let us not forget this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q9upPs6-Ms&feature=youtu.be


I prefer to think common people are starting to protect their privacy. May be it's just wishfull thinking. Grin

^^^
Not just the common people. Grin

We uncommoners have been here for 6+ years  Cool
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October 16, 2020, 11:52:59 PM
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We uncommoners have been here for 6+ years  Cool

Same here, but damn.... I can't believe this was my first forum post. Not even about btc, but XMR! I made my account in april that year I believe, so I had been already lurking for a couple months LOL.  Cool

weird, for some reason on the wallet page it says disabled and the link is removed to the market. no way to withdraw though, just buy/sell.. Sad

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October 17, 2020, 12:29:15 AM
Last edit: October 17, 2020, 11:31:20 PM by nullius
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I prefer to think common people are starting to protect their privacy. May be it's just wishfull thinking. Grin

^^^
Not just the common people. Grin

We uncommoners have been here for 6+ years  Cool

I myself refused to touch XMR until it had both CT and minimum ring sizes.  I don’t think that it was a worthwhile privacy coin before 2017, at the earliest.  Bigger ring sizes, and better selection of mixins, have been only some of the important changes since then, in terms of privacy.  (Bulletproofs and RandomX are important for other reasons.)

This is not to express negativity toward Monero, but rather, to say:  Never stop improving!  MRL’s work is an important part of the Monero value proposition.  A better solution to the coin merge problem would be excellent; I think that it would go a long way toward preventing probabilistic clustering, à la CipherTrace.

My perspective:  I lost out big time by avoiding Bitcoin for years, due to its abject lack of privacy.



I can't believe this was my first forum post. Not even about btc, but XMR! I made my account in april that year I believe, so I had been already lurking for a couple months LOL.  Cool

weird, for some reason on the wallet page it says disabled and the link is removed to the market. no way to withdraw though, just buy/sell.. Sad

Congrats.  Your permanent blockchain records are probably at least a little bit less revealing than most people’s. ;-)



Rejected

i try send from binance to my coinomi

:-/

Edit 2020-10-17:  Correction for reasons stated here (but Coinomi is still not recommended).

From centralized exchange...
...to centralized exchange.

Not your keys, not your coins—and you have no privacy!

I do hope that you get “your” Binance’s money “back”, if they will be so magnanimous as to let you have it.  Please try keeping it in your own wallet.

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October 17, 2020, 12:32:29 AM
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I myself refused to touch XMR until it had both CT and minimum ring sizes.  I don’t think that it was a worthwhile privacy coin before 2017, at the earliest.  Bigger ring sizes, and better selection of mixins, have been only some of the important changes since then, in terms of privacy.  (Bulletproofs and RandomX are important for other reasons.)

This is not to express negativity toward Monero, but rather, to say:  Never stop improving!  MRL’s work is an important part of the Monero value proposition.  A better solution to the coin merge problem would be excellent; I think that it would go a long way toward preventing probabilistic clustering, à la CipherTrace.

My perspective:  I lost out big time by avoiding Bitcoin for years, due to its abject lack of privacy.



I can't believe this was my first forum post. Not even about btc, but XMR! I made my account in april that year I believe, so I had been already lurking for a couple months LOL.  Cool

weird, for some reason on the wallet page it says disabled and the link is removed to the market. no way to withdraw though, just buy/sell.. Sad

Congrats.  Your permanent blockchain records are probably at least a little bit less revealing than most people’s. ;-)


yeah, but I don't really care. I pay my taxes. Cool

I got into Monero because the code is solid and I was new and looking at future alternatives, also a friend who was better at code than I tipped me off that it would be a great coin someday. I guess I lucked out, but hey, timing is everything as well, so I could have done a lot better LOL. Dont ever feel bad about missing out - I've lost a Gold Cas coin worth 14k at the time due to sloppy packaging, also a copy paste virus that scammed me a few thousand a few weeks later, so I know what real loss feels like, trust me there!  Tongue

BTW. good to see you here, been a while, hope you are well. Cool

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October 17, 2020, 08:04:20 AM
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coinomi XMR i think is not centralized  Huh  

coinomi  XMR privacy ?
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October 17, 2020, 09:13:44 AM
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https://xmr.noctism.com/

‘Network Upgrade’ (hard fork) successful!

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October 17, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
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https://xmr.noctism.com/

‘Network Upgrade’ (hard fork) successful!
Well, such positive news will attract and nudge new members who appreciate the privacy that Monero provides. Moreover, the work done was not in vain, in particular, it was shown by the successful launch of hard fork.






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October 17, 2020, 10:17:35 PM
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What the fuck is this bullshit FUD???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero_(cryptocurrency)



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Due to its privacy features, Monero experienced rapid growth in market capitalization and transaction volume during 2016, faster and bigger than any other cryptocurrency that year. This growth was driven by its uptake in the darknet market, where people used it to buy stolen credit cards, guns, and drugs.[3] Two major darknet markets were shut down in July 2017 by law enforcement.[6] From the beginning, Monero has been used by people holding other cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin to break the link between transactions, with the other cryptocoins first converted to Monero, then after some delay converted back and sent to an address unrelated to those used before.

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After many online payment platforms shut down access for white nationalists following the Unite the Right rally in 2017, some of them, including Christopher Cantwell and Andrew Auernheimer ("weev"), started using and promoting Monero.[8][9]

The operators behind the May 2017 global ransomware incident WannaCry converted their proceeds into Monero.[2] In June, The Shadow Brokers, the group that leaked the code used in WannaCry, started accepting payments in Monero.[2]


Looks like Wiki is being used to rewrite history with a pretty obvious spin.


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See also

    Crypto-anarchism
    Darknet
    Darknet market

Well looks like there needs to be a move to fix this shit.


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October 17, 2020, 11:29:28 PM
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BTW. good to see you here, been a while, hope you are well. Cool

Thanks.  Same to you. :-)



What the fuck is this bullshit FUD???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero_(cryptocurrency)

Wikipedia is a stunningly successful outlet for mass propaganda under colour of facts.  Its so-called “neutral point of view” is anything but; and although its articles on some mathematical or scientific subjects have attained a decent quality, I would not rely on it for anything politically controversial in any way.

If Wikipedia is smearing Monero, I am not surprised.



coinomi XMR i think is not centralized  Huh 

coinomi  XMR privacy ?

I was mistaken about Coinomi being custodial; I will correct my earlier post accordingly.  However, Coinomi is still not recommended:

“Last edit: September 17, 2020, 08:25:29 AM by Lauda”
Not recommended or outdated Wallets

[...]

  • Coinomi — Initially open source, then changed again to closed source. Had controversial situations in the past. More information can be found here

From the linked thread, which is quite recent:

[...]

[...] All users of Coinomi have to have complete trust in both your programming skills and your honesty.

The oft repeated mantra of "Don't trust. Verify." is apt here. With closed source software, it is impossible to verify, and you are forced to trust. Why will you not transition to open source?

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https://xmr.noctism.com/

‘Network Upgrade’ (hard fork) successful!

yeah, according to your link it supposed to happen on block 2210720, looks like it did.  I'm running 0.17.1.0

Code:
2020-10-18 05:16:51.049	I [104.140.244.186:18080 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2210720 -> 2210766 
[Your node is 46 blocks (1.5 hours) behind]
2020-10-18 05:16:51.049 I SYNCHRONIZATION started
version
0.17.1.0-release
2020-10-18 05:18:09.970 W There were 0 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned,
cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck.
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Height: 2210720/2210720 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.47 GH/s, v14 (forking now), 8(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 25m 5s
still waiting for the new chain to get started, the old one is now at 2210766.  Makes me nervous.

the coin merge problem

I haven't heard about coin merge.  Googling monero coin merge returns "Leveraging Output Merging" on the Monero wikipedia page and some stuff about merge mining.
Can you post a link or a few words of explanation?
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October 18, 2020, 05:37:33 AM
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You might want to restart your node birr in case your node still hasn’t seen a new block yet. The current latest one is 2210773:

https://xmrchain.net/block/2210773

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You might want to restart your node birr in case your node still hasn’t seen a new block yet. The current latest one is 2210773:

https://xmrchain.net/block/2210773
I exited the daemon and restarted.  Looks a little better, at least the status shows the new block height.  Waiting to see what happens.

edit: nope

Code:
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Height: 2210720/2210783 (99.9%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.47 GH/s, v14, 7(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 0m 28s
2020-10-18 05:55:40.044 W There were 0 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck.
2020-10-18 05:55:48.618 I [77.110.216.189:18080 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2210720 -> 2210783 [Your node is 63 blocks (2.1 hours) behind]
2020-10-18 05:55:48.618 I SYNCHRONIZATION started
2020-10-18 05:57:10.052 W There were 0 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck.
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Height: 2210720/2210720 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.47 GH/s, v14 (forking now), 8(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 3m 14s
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