[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[VeryVeriViral]

Well done Setup! Well done!

Jay Jay
@VeryVeriViral

[ScottAllyn]

Being an "ass" in your viewpoint, because I wasn't cheering the deal, like you wanted. Am I right?

Nope. I'm actually very skeptical of the whole thing but if people want to hear what the guy has to say, they have a right to do so without someone insulting them the whole time.

[onsightit]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

[ereborltc]

wow thanx for posting the irc chat!.....

lets stop arguing please and focus on the task at hand... this is huge for us right now and were all safe with escrow and the deal is mint

[ereborltc]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

[buy4crypto]

IRC Chat Log

[ij777 escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6  || details of escrow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8699925#msg8699925]


[13:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'll call Doug right now.

[13:55] <buy4crypto> so make me proud, I want to be rich

[13:56] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> without doing nothing buy4crypto :p

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[13:56] <@VeryVeriViral> He's gonna be pissed I'm waking him up. smh You better be solid man. Really.

[13:56] <jl777> for those know my work, you know what my unique tech is worth

[13:56] <Guest18609> i do

[13:57] <Guest18609> please jl777 I'm telling you were getting this done

[13:57] <BagHolder> Hey Very, we already know James is solid

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You've been cheerleading him this whole time. How much VRC are you putting in?

[13:57] <Guest18609> there will be 500k raised within 24hrs

[13:57] <BagHolder> and pnosk already knows

[13:57] <BagHolder> we just need a lead

[13:57] <Guest18609> ill put in 3k

[13:57] <Guest18609> thats a lot for me

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> 3k?

[13:58] <jl777> now be clear that inclusion into SuperNET core wont be until there is some new tech

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Alright.

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> When is that new tech?

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Estimate?

[13:58] <jl777> and that this deal is with me personally, the tech I can estimate ~6mo to alpha/beta

[13:58] <Guest18609> the price will rise just on the fact that we close this deal

[13:59] <jl777> now I think there will be good chance for CORE inclusion if I put in a good word

[13:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: It's not about the short term bro.

[13:59] <Guest18609> we know this

[13:59] <buy4crypto> Wow, wow wow, Its hard to believe what I am seeing in here, but I guess desperation leads to many things.

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How many coins have signed on so far ?

[14:00] <BagHolder> buy4, what's your problem?  will you please stay your point factually, please?

[14:00] <jl777> guest18609 if I tell my investors that VRC is long term buy and I will add tech to it next year, well that is what happened to BBR

[14:00] <Guest18609> seriously guys i don't want to sound like a cheerleader

[14:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:00] <Guest18609> look at vrc now has anyone noticed its at 13k

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[14:00] <jl777> you have to realize hundreds of people that invested in my projects have made close to 10 million USD in last 4 months

[14:00] <Guest18609> this is the jl777 effect

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude that's due to MACD

[14:00] <Guest18609> the rest is long term an will flourish

[14:01] <Guest18609> no its not lol

[14:01] <jl777> veryvery, if I announce to my list, the price will double in hours

[14:01] <Guest18609> less than hrs

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay Guest18609  just shhhhh. For like second.

[14:01] <jl777> this is why i insisted on secrecy

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay I'll call Doug now.

[14:01] <jl777> i do not want to cause a pump for something that wont happen

[14:01] <BagHolder> James, I just want to be clear right now.  Our contributions to VRC mean that we're a committed community.  That's why you're a little flexible with price?

[14:02] <jl777> the big problem with VRC is that it could not handle the mintpal incident

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> I wish you could do 300k - then 600k on the back end.

[14:02] <jl777> now few communities would have been able to

[14:02] <jl777> so nothing againt anyone

[14:02] <jl777> not personal

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: See that...

[14:02] <buy4crypto> jl777, it handled it very well.

[14:02] <jl777> big loss of money makes people cranky

[14:02] <Guest18609> ya it was tough

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude... we're about to overcome ALL of that.

[14:02] <buy4crypto> Big heads and ego's, you need to come back to earth jl777

[14:03] <Guest18609> yes and this can be the perfect stepping stool

[14:03] <buy4crypto> get your name off every code you make "im a simple C+ programmer"

[14:03] <jl777> buy4crypto, just read the last 50 pages of thread, it is disaster about the worst atmosphere i have seen

[14:03] <buy4crypto> blah blah, egomaniac, what a joke.

[14:03] <Guest18609> super net takes nothing away from vrc it just adds

[14:03] <jl777> i had to intervene in the XMR BBR fued

[14:03] <buy4crypto> you all enjoy your circle jerk,. im out

[14:03] <jl777> it was killing both the coins

[14:03] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> bb

[14:03] <jl777> i am a fixer of broken coins

[14:03] <jl777> i am glad he is gone

[14:03] <Guest18609> pls don't listen to buy4crytpo

[14:03] <jl777> plz get rid of all those guys

[14:03] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: VeriCoin isn't broken.

[14:04] <jl777> veryvery ok you dont need me, bye

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> This is not how you broker a deal James.

[14:04] <Guest18609> stop

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay fine. Peace.

[14:04] <Guest18609> man

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[14:04] <Guest18609> don't listen to veriviral

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> I have no time for FUD.

[14:04] <Dick_Green> lets just take a moment

[14:04] <Guest18609> the community wants this and has spoken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> obv vrc isnt broken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> and james wasnt saying that

[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

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[14:05] <Guest18609> stop what

[14:05] <Dick_Green> this is a win win for the both

[14:05] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> +m

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[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Just stop. In general.

[14:05] <Guest18609> ITS A WIN WIN

[14:05] <Guest18609> NO RISK

[14:06] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> dude.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Guest18609, you have a lot to learn. The minute you accept this deal you have basically become BBR, and every other "broken" coin that guy said he'll repair.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> I forgot, was vericoin unique, and special? or just another alt under some egomaniacs umbrella? Think about it before you all chear so blindly

[14:06] <Dick_Green> crypto ur talking out of ur ass

[14:06] <Guest18609> said hell repair... do u not watch the market

[14:06] <Guest18609> is btcd not at 1.4million

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Dick, you have no clue how real business works, or how to get ahead, sure, take the easy way out, most of you want to.

[14:06] <Guest18609> growing

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> Grow Vericoin for the future, not for a quick pump.

[14:07] <BagHolder> I need to go, I'll be back in a bit.  I need a word from effects pnosk and socal and then I think we're good

[14:07] <@VeryVeriViral> All I'm saying is this... VeriCoin isn't "broken" and we don't need "charity". If someone wants to do business... let's do it. But DON'T belittle our coin, company or brand.

[14:07] <MichelausGer> so one of our devs has to put the facts together, install escrow and we see what will happen

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> jl777 is NOT what you all need, but its what will make the next 1-2 days "exciting" worth a trade? stop. Work on longterm value

[14:07] <Dick_Green> crypto have u read anything about supernet

[14:07] <Guest18609> ESCROW FOR 1 YEAR

[14:07] <buy4crypto> I own SuperNetNews.com

[14:08] <buy4crypto> so yeah, I am up on it.

[14:08] <Guest18609> thats not a quick pump

[14:08] <@VeryVeriViral> lol

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I know all about superNet, and wht VeriCoin should be fighting to stay away, but...

[14:08] <buy4crypto> Some don't see the big picture unfortunately.

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I am glad @VeriVeriViral has his senses about him.

[14:08] <Guest18609> oh my

[14:09] <Guest18609> smh

[14:09] <Dick_Green> why is supernet so bad

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[14:09] <Dick_Green> how would it negatively effect vrc

[14:09] <Guest18609> it cannot

[14:09] <Guest18609> we have ZERO risk

[14:09] <Dick_Green> i wana hear from crypto

[14:09] <buy4crypto> This coin isn't broken, it needs support and guidance, not some egomaniac who puts his name on all coding he does in the supernet library

[14:09] <Guest18609> this is crazy

[14:09] <@VeryVeriViral> I have nothing against jl777 . I just don't like his approach. He can do better than that.

[14:09] <buy4crypto> Well, Dick, you know BBR is in the umbrella correct?

[14:09] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:10] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:10] <buy4crypto> BBR would be as valuable to the supernet team, / world as VRC, and any other "broken" coin that decides to be in the supernet

[14:10] <Guest18609> we need to stop playing games we cannot get fucked!

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[14:10] <buy4crypto> Basiclly, by his wording, you say "yes we are broken, come save us jl777"

[14:10] <Guest18609> its in escrow

[14:10] <Guest18609> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> lol

[14:11] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:11] <Dick_Green> adding ur coin to the supernet would give it value

[14:11] <buy4crypto> Listen up. Dick, respond to me okay, what do you think of that

[14:11] <Guest18609> were saying its a genius project and wed be retarded to not be part of it

[14:11] <buy4crypto> do you like the term "broken crypto" and Vericoin together?

[14:11] <Dick_Green> i think ur wrong

[14:11] <buy4crypto> sounds valuable?

[14:11] <buy4crypto> like a mainstream currency?

[14:11] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: We aren't "fucked" - with or without SuperNET. That's my point.

[14:11] <buy4crypto> gimme a fucking break and open up your eyes kids.

[14:11] <Guest18609> yes and i believe that also

[14:11] <Dick_Green> ur main point is that james is an egomaniac so supernet is bad and all coins who join it are broken

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[14:12] <Guest18609> give u a break which what

[14:12] <Guest18609> we have no risk!!

[14:12] <buy4crypto> he tells you he can fix a broken currency... right there I would be insulted.

[14:12] <Guest18609> what is so difficult to understand

[14:12] <Dick_Green> no

[14:12] <Phaeton> OK - can´t take this dashing anymore - by - for 2 hours

[14:12] <buy4crypto> This isn't a broken currency if you people would work for something, instead of expect someone else to do everything for you.

[14:12] <Dick_Green> hes not comming here to fix our broken currency

[14:12] <Dick_Green> he is comming here to see how the community feels about supernet

[14:12] <Guest18609> omg u don't get it

[14:12] <Guest18609> hes not fixing it

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> I think jl777 is the real deal. However I don't like how he's talking about "saving" us. Or getting so sensitive and saying "Okay bye" etc.

[14:13] <Guest18609> get over your ego for 24 hrs plz

[14:13] <buy4crypto> why did he call this broken then ?

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> ^

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[14:13] <Guest18609> he is if you follow his work you would know this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> hes a  Negotiator

[14:13] <Guest18609> because vericoin is kinda broken right now don't u see this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> if i was james i would have a supermassive ego

[14:13] <Guest18609> it wasn't an insult

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> Well he can call me or Skype me ANYTIME and really negotiate.

[14:13] <buy4crypto> 18609, why did he call this broken? and wouldn't that imply he can fix them? like he said he can, thats what he does. He saves alt coins, LOL

[14:13] <Guest18609> it was truth

[14:14] <Guest18609> doesn't mean were not gonna fix it

[14:14] <Guest18609> but its the present situation

[14:14] <buy4crypto> Its broken because of you people who want these "juggernaut" deals, and deals with nutballs like jl777

[14:14] <Guest18609> thread is a disaster to say the least

[14:14] <Guest18609> your bashing from an opinion based on nothing

[14:15] <@VeryVeriViral> BCT is a disaster. The new forums are pristine!

[14:15] <Guest18609> all he's done is make coins skyrocket and innovate new ideas

[14:15] <buy4crypto> People can be working on real progress, and talking about real, solid things to move the needle, yet we waste energy on these "saviors" who make everybody rich.. yeah right.

[14:15] <buy4crypto> 18609, skyrocket? for how long

[14:15] <Dick_Green> crypto just stop typing

[14:15] <Guest18609> no one goes on new forums don't u get that

[14:15] <buy4crypto> because all I see is BITCOIN, and a buncha shit alts lately

[14:15] <Dick_Green> uve missed the point like 10 times already

[14:15] <Guest18609> people will always go to bct

[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609:  the new forums haven't launched yet. Get that?

[14:16] <Guest18609> veritalk

[14:16] <Guest18609> there was  one

[14:16] <Guest18609> it didn't work

[14:16] <Guest18609> .....

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[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> www.vericoinforums.com

[14:16] <Guest18609> you must not trade much verivery

[14:16] <buy4crypto> the guy sold his vericoin, that is why that didn't work

[14:16] <buy4crypto> he was in it to make a buck, like 99.9% of you

[14:16] <MichelausGer> again, what can we lose if we do this deal?

[14:16] <jl777> ok i am back, 104 minutes left

[14:17] <buy4crypto> after he sold out, he tried to sell the forum.

[14:17] <Guest18609> nothing we can't lose anything

[14:17] <jl777> buy4crypto, how much VRC do you have?

[14:17] <Guest18609> and seems to me pride is stopping a few ppl from thinking clearly

[14:17] <Guest18609> we can't lose

[14:17] <Guest18609> escrow!!

[14:17] <buy4crypto> jl777, I think its best for you to ignore me, you are a very sensative women... or maybe a man.

[14:17] <Guest18609> jl777 GETS ZERO

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[14:18] <jl777> buy4crypto, plz answer at least range

[14:18] <Guest18609> for a year and if he delivers

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> I have 165,000 VRC.

[14:18] <Guest18609> bro u stop

[14:18] <Guest18609> I'm proud of u

[14:18] <jl777> if buy4crypto is a VRC whale then this is difficult for me to work with constant attacks

[14:18] <jl777> creating software is very hard to do

[14:18] <Guest18609> hes not lol

[14:18] <buy4crypto> I have 0 vrc dude,. hows that?

[14:19] <jl777> all conditions must be right

[14:19] <jl777> buy4crypto if that is the case, plz leave

[14:19] <jl777> this is about getting VRC back to ATH and beyond

[14:19] <@VeryVeriViral> We're going to do that though.

[14:19] <jl777> i cannot create a masterpiece if there is a troll constantly annoying me

[14:20] <Dick_Green> james this is a public irc

[14:20] <jl777> verivery i recognize a good negotiator

[14:20] <jl777> dick g, i understand

[14:20] <jl777> verifvery, so let us agree to not do negotiation games, no time, 100 minutes left

[14:20] <buy4crypto> dude, you have got to be the most sensative person in the world. How are you going to meld so many communities together when you act like a baby man?

[14:20] <jl777> buy4crypto why are you still here?

[14:20] <guest_____> jl777 pls confirm this is you. Golf or putt-putt?

[14:20] <jl777> putt-putt

[14:21] <guest_____> thanks

[14:21] <Dick_Green> good choice

[14:21] <techbytes> lol

[14:21] <Guest18609> lol

[14:21] <techbytes> guest i could have answer that...

[14:21] <buy4crypto> jl777 is a fan of the notebook

[14:21] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'm not negotiating. I'm telling you STRAIGHT UP... VeriCoin is good right now. If you can help... GREAT... let's do business.

[14:21] <guest_____> true

[14:21] <buy4crypto> love stories, hearts, fluffy bunnies

[14:21] <Guest18609> of course he can help

[14:21] <Guest18609> more than u understand

[14:22] <jl777> veryvery if you think VRC is having no issues, then this is not reality

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[14:22] <Guest18609> seriously

[14:22] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am here because I count on you making me rich, just not by trashing another coin I own

[14:22] <jl777> mintpal rollback was a near fatal blow

[14:22] <jl777> buy4crypto you have no coins so no voice

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[14:22] <jl777> or you can admit you are whale

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[14:22] <jl777> then we listen

[14:22] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I KNOW we're good because... I KNOW... we're good.

[14:22] <Dick_Green> im a tuna

[14:23] <@VeryVeriViral> I know whales that eat other whales...

[14:23] <jl777> verivery being good is nice, BBR was good, but it was in a death spiral 1/40'th of xmr

[14:23] <Dick_Green> very were u able to get in touch with dug

[14:23] <jl777> good tech is not enough when there are 300 coins

[14:23] <buy4crypto> jl777 VeriCoin will be biger than ur group of misfit clones that you will fail to provide any value to jl777, that is the brutal reality. You make up this happy fun land make believe world and try to sell it to the ignorant shareholders of "broken" coins.

[14:23] <buy4crypto> what a honorable butterfly.

[14:23] <Guest18609> don't listen to him

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Dick_Green: I texted him but no reply.

[14:24] <jl777> ok, i dont have time to be debating people like buy4crypto, is there a way to put him on ignore

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Don't know if I should call him for this.

[14:24] <jl777> i am not so familiar with irc

[14:24] <Guest18609> i dont tink so

[14:24] <Dick_Green> i think it would be okay

[14:24] <Dick_Green> its only 8:30

[14:24] <thph> somebody with an @ can ban here

[14:24] <jl777> then can you guys convince him to stop his trolling

[14:25] <Guest18609> veryveri can

[14:25] <Dick_Green> theres no way of that james

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is the interenet

[14:25] <Dick_Green> common

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> How many people in here want me to call Doug? Let your voice be known.

[14:25] <Dick_Green> me

[14:25] <Guest18609> me

[14:25] <buy4crypto> I am sorry, is there no room for an opposite opinion? Usually when people get upset about that its because they are trying to work an angle on ya.

[14:25] <thph> please call him

[14:25] <Guest18609> we needhim here

[14:25] <MichelausGer> please call him up it's urgent

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is important i dont think he would mind

[14:25] <jl777> my ipo is starting soon and i dont want to waste it explaining that 1+1 = 2

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I hear ya bro. Just let's hear him out. Let's keep it cool for a little.

[14:26] <@VeryVeriViral> K calling him.

[14:26] <jl777> i see a lot of handles, are they all actually here?

[14:26] <techbytes> a lot are here idling for news and updates

[14:27] <Shinraven> 8 am east coast...hello gentlemen, you have been busy. James thank you for sharing your ideas

[14:27] <ScottAllyn> jl777: many idle here and check the chat periodically throughout the day. Staying in here even when they're not active allows them to scroll back up thru the chat log to catch up with what they missed.

[14:27] <buy4crypto> IRC is common sense. not very hard, a great way to keep up with teams, and investors. pretty suprising, such a great simple C+ programmer should be able to figure out!

[14:28] <Guest18609> wow it'll all be in escrwo

[14:28] <jl777> buy3crypto thanks for that, it really helps doesnt it? do you want to help VRC or not

[14:28] <Guest18609> nothing to lose whatsoever

[14:28] <Dick_Green> lol crypto u so mad

[14:28] <Guest18609> ya and rude

[14:29] <buy4crypto> I am helping VRC, I don't see any value in being another "broken" crypto in your bag.

[14:29] <jl777> well buy4?

[14:29] <Guest18609> pls ignore him james

[14:29] <jl777> buy4 is NXT broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or bbr

[14:29] <jl777> is BTCD broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or btcd

[14:29] <Guest18609>

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay

[14:29] <jl777> BBR was technically not broken

[14:29] <buy4crypto> Your vocal few, that want instant profits will cheer anythign, anyone says to make them a buck, I see no longterm value in your deal for VRC. You make out very well though.

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Talked to Doug.

[14:29] <Guest18609> like seriously this is what vericoin has been dealing with

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone CHILL.

[14:29] <jl777> but it was 1/40 xmr until last week when i fixed it, now it is 1/4

[14:30] <Guest18609> its not instant!!

[14:30] <techbytes> buy4crypto, what have you done for me lately... now stfu and chill.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> He'll be here in 5 minutes. He's putting his son in the car.

[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if VRC goes 5x, how is there no long term value?

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[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if 10x how is there no value?

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Doug will be here in 5 minutes.

[14:30] <jl777> is that the extent of your math abilities?

[14:30] <buy4crypto> jl777 ask the people who bought at 50-58k how that will help them. That was the last pump and dump.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone relax.

[14:31] <buy4crypto> this might be another pump and dump, crypto loves ponzis

[14:31] <buy4crypto> where I stand, is I want to create value that LASTS.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Just relax homie. Please. Let's cool down.

[14:31] <jl777> buy4 that is what I do, buy, hodl, build value

[14:31] <buy4crypto> longterm value, crazy huh? I feel like actually helping people longterm, not playing musical chairs and leaving x amount of people to suffer, while early manipulators profit.

[14:31] <ScottAllyn> throwing insults back n' forth isn't doing anybody any good.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with you. I really do.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> But let's relax.

[14:31] <Dick_Green> james do u always spell hold as hodl

[14:32] <jl777> so if these loud voices are thinking i am manipulator, then there is no hope

[14:32] <ScottAllyn> Dick_Green: there's a long history there.

[14:32] <jl777> buy4 do you know anything about me?

[14:32] <techbytes> jl777, there is only one loud voice here... and he doesn't speak for the community.

[14:32] <buy4crypto> you are a simple C+ programmer that puts your name on everything

[14:32] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Can you Pls relax as well?

[14:33] <comcry> Nice VRC move

[14:33] <jl777> buy4 my name is actually not jl777

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Both of you... chill.

[14:33] <buy4crypto> but I just know what I read on supernet news. I know more of the deal you are proposing than you, and its scary to be lumped into a basket of unproven, "broken" coins

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Calm it all down fellas.

[14:33] <MichelausGer> @buy4 are you copying barabbas?

[14:33] <jl777> where do you get that SuperNET core coins are broken? only the best coins get into the core

[14:33] <guest_____> I have benefited greatly from James' investments...take the deal, all win. Not that difficult.

[14:34] <buy4crypto> If they where able to be standalone coins, they would.

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: What do you think of ICO?

[14:34] <jl777> verivery in what way?

[14:34] <Shinraven> Buy4crypto cool it. unreal

[14:34] <buy4crypto> Its a new, noble approach, have a guy with a big ego, tell 10x communities he will bring them all together? You can't even bring the VRC community together, you think bringing this coin into the fold will bring value to who, how?

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Is it worthy of SuperNET?

[14:34] <jl777> is what worthy?

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> ICO

[14:35] <jl777> cant parse what you are saying, is ICO worthy of SuperNET? please rephrase

[14:35] <buy4crypto> @Shinraven so, The only person here thinking rationally, again, since I dont trade coins for profit.... is yelled at for looking longterm, over a quick pump and dump

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> Which coins are worthy? In your opinion of SuperNET?

[14:35] <buy4crypto> At least I know who has longterm value in mind, and who the people are with short term aspirations to profit bigtime and dump.

[14:36] <jl777> very few

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> Like 265?

[14:36] <jl777> dozens are applying, I have a team of 4 prescreening

[14:36] <jl777> i think maybe half a dozen to a dozen in the core

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> NXT is on right?

[14:36] <jl777> yes NXT gets the 2.0 crypto featyres

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> BitCoinDark is on right?

[14:37] <jl777> BTCD gets the Teleport, InstantDEX and Privatebet

[14:37] <jl777> BBR adds cryptonote

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> Oh I see.

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> So you're giving each coin different... applications/features?

[14:37] <jl777> so a coin has to have something unique and valuable to all the other coins. have no clue why buy4 keeps sayung broken coins

[14:37] <buy4crypto> Is a reason all these coins didn't join other teams to begin with, everycoin is unique, and offered something different. Bringing together all these coins, all these communities is like trying to bring together palestinians and isrealies.

[14:38] <jl777> buy4 the enemy is fiat, not each other

[14:38] <buy4crypto> You people who just look at the good in everything are fucking every longterm investor here by your need for instant satisfaction of higher price VRC, shame

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Let's just hear him out.

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> The enemy IS Fiat. I agree.

[14:38] <jl777> guys like buy4 crypto will make it 10 times harder to make progress

[14:38] <jl777> not that VRC needs any progress

[14:38] <jl777> just saying

[14:38] <jl777> is it like brownian motion

[14:39] <buy4crypto> guys like buy4crypto see through bullshit, and aren'tmotivated by short term profits.

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> No One in here is more of a long term investor than I am. Let's hear him out.

[14:39] <jl777> if everything is random there is no progress

[14:39] <jl777> if everybody agrees, even if it isnt the best idea then at least progress is made

[14:39] <jl777> so, with loud voices complaining about everything, nothing happens

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I hear ya.

[14:39] <jl777> now if a coin is accepted into the SuperNET core

[14:39] <buy4crypto> jl777 what does vericoin have thats unique?

[14:40] <jl777> then it will get cross marketed to all the other coin's users

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Let's relax. buy4crypto - Pls chill.

[14:40] <jl777> so it must have something unique

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Ohhhhh

[14:40] <buy4crypto> I will leave you alone after you give me a chance to respond to your response.

[14:40] <jl777> then as SuperNET is generating revenues

[14:40] <Shinraven> @buy4crypto based on what i read so far this sounds long term, for now we should hear everyone out

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> I see what's he's implying now.

[14:40] <jl777> currently I am allocating 20% to go to the coin communities

[14:40] <buy4crypto> This is a very important thing to realize, what is VRC adding to you jl77&?

[14:40] <jl777> buy4 that is part of this deal

[14:40] <buy4crypto> answer me!

[14:41] <jl777> buy4 I will personally code some uniqye features

[14:41] <buy4crypto> what is the unique thing vericoin adds to your platform?

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> I'm beginning to understand this a little better.

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[14:41] <jl777> i was thinking a decentralized USD pegged crypto

[14:41] <jl777> btsx is a holographic peg and will collapse sometime

[14:41] <buy4crypto> so, you are going to make a unique feature for VRC? lol

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I wish you weren't Anon because we could do REALLY good biz.

[14:41] <buy4crypto> unique in the open source world is trully funny.

[14:41] <jl777> not sure how long as the btsx is propping up the price

[14:42] <jl777> so when it starts dropping to where the forced liquidations kick in, nothing will stop the collapse

[14:42] <jl777> but there is clearly demand for fiat pegged crypto

[14:42] <@VeryVeriViral> Remember effects is on his way here. So let's be civil.

[14:43] <jl777> so I think if VRC has this decentralized fiat pegged scheduled for next year

[14:43] <buy4crypto> so, jl777, VeriCoin offers nothing unique to your platform, yet you are here pushing a short time frame to raise money for you?

[14:43] <@VeryVeriViral> The only thing is the 1.3 million. It's SO much dude.

[14:43] <buy4crypto> Anyone else see any trouble here?

[14:43] <jl777> then that is the point to march toward

[14:43] <jl777> buy4 i am not getting anything without success

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You get plenty without success

[14:43] <Guest18609> he's getting nothing!!

[14:43] <jl777> how?

[14:43] <Guest18609> escrow

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You can sell all the coins you have already on the way up, easy profit

[14:44] <buy4crypto> all the people who see 100k, and nothing else will hold, so you can sell, easy

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 the coins are in escrow

[14:44] <Guest18609> jl777 pls ignore him

[14:44] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: He doesn't get any VRC up front.

[14:44] <buy4crypto> You can't buy them on the open market now?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> duh duh duh... genious!

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 i commit to not sell for 3 yrs

[14:44] <buy4crypto> if you guys dont think he could already owns millions, then I can't help you

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 are you rational?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> he knows all thats going on, he isn't here to help vericoin, he is giving you ultimatums.

[14:45] <buy4crypto> he is here to rip you off, to finish the hack attemps, the DDOS attacks, to scam the rest he can

[14:45] <jl777> i own about 200K VRC

[14:45] <buy4crypto> to finish VRC, unreal you all want to accept this

[14:45] <@effects> hey guys

[14:45] <Guest18609> hey

[14:45] <techbytes> hey

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> It goes into an escrow acct.

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I'm going to ask you once more... Pls stop.

[14:45] <jl777> buy4 is convincing me this deal has little chance

[14:45] <jl777> i am not seeing progress

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You guys, okay, here is my deal. I will get the price to 100k I can make C+ codes and promise you the world.

[14:46] <buy4crypto> I wont make any money (I promise) until its at 100k

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You know how much money I would makie before the thing touched 50k??? A LOT

[14:46] <MichelausGer> @buy4crypto: can you do something that vrc rises and i get my losses back? No? then please come down

[14:46] <@effects> buy4crypto:  We will talk about this, give me one second

[14:46] <dallin> buy4 needs to stop

[14:46] <jl777> so if you dont want VRC cross marketed to 100K users, and some of my coding work, i will go

[14:46] <buy4crypto> @Michelausger this is what it has come down to, people just want money back, not a bright future for VRC

[14:46] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with some of your points... I do... but you're delivering them wrong. Please relax.

[14:47] <jl777> i cannot work in a hostile environment

[14:47] <jl777> it just makes me upset and I cannot create good code

[14:47] <Guest18609> pls ignore him jl777

[14:47] <@effects> This is simple, I'm going to post a VRC escrow address and the community decides with their VRC

[14:47] <buy4crypto> You guys see how jl777 is training you all?

[14:47] <jl777> effects with loud voices like buy4, it wont work

[14:48] <Guest18609> seriously can u pls ban buy4

[14:48] <buy4crypto> You wont say anythign mean, cause hes "sensative" you can't say anything or he will "leave"

[14:48] <buy4crypto> so unreal people trust this guy.

[14:48] <Dick_Green> james has got me by the hook take all my money

[14:48] <Guest18609> i dont trust u buy4

[14:48] <jl777> buy4 you can single handedly get me to not do this deal

[14:48] <Guest18609> your rude and this is why we have problems

[14:48] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am one person, if you think it wont work because of me, you will have a lot of challenges with 12 communities

[14:48] <@effects> buy4crypto: I will pm you in  a minute to discuss

[14:48] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you've made your point 10x over. You're just rehashing what you've already said that this point.

[14:48] <buy4crypto> you dont seem stable enoguh to handle the job, your a girly man, at best

[14:49] <Guest18609> pls silence buy4!

[14:49] == effects changed the topic of #vericoin to: ij777 escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

[14:49] <AkaBa> hi james

[14:49] <jl777> ok that;s it VRC community you need to decide between me and buy4crypto, i cannot do VRC if he is around

[14:49] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Please state your entire proposal to effects so he fully understands where we're at. Time wise too. How much and when? Etc.

[14:49] <AkaBa> great work - super commitment

[14:49] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you need to quit that shit now.

[14:49] <buy4crypto> don't decide between me and anything, lol

[14:49] <Guest18609> we all already voiced that were in

[14:49] <jl777> i made no commitment yet

[14:49] <jl777> and i will not commit to work in a hostile environmemnt

[14:49] <Guest18609> were gonna raise the funds 500k within 24hrs

[14:50] <buy4crypto> decide between short term gains, and longterm condemnation of the coin, or choose to ignore this guy and move on and progress the coin the right way

[14:50] <Dick_Green> escrow wallet is up and its only a matter of time

[14:50] <jl777> guest you also need to choose between me and buy4, he is going to make nice codes for you

[14:50] <buy4crypto> jeesus, this guy is good!

[14:50] <techbytes> jl777, buy4 won't be looking over your shoulder while you code so what's the issue?

[14:50] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much do YOU need in Escrow within 24 hours?

[14:50] <jl777> techbytes a coin is not just the code

[14:51] <Guest18609> can u silence BUY4 PLEASE

[14:51] <+poordoge> jl777> tell the vericoin community about yourself, what have you done?

[14:51] <jl777> look at BBR it had better code than XMR and 1/40 th marketcap

[14:51] <@effects> escrow is at topic vote with your VRC

[14:51] <jl777> i do more than just code

[14:51] <jl777> i fix communities

[14:51] <Guest18609> 500k

[14:51] <jl777> you also have to get rid of buy4crypto

[14:51] <buy4crypto> yeah, you dont want any dissodence.

[14:51] <jl777> i will not work for VRC with him constantly undermining me

[14:51] <@effects> we are not going to get rid on non trolls

[14:51] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much VRC do you need Right now so that we're "in"?

[14:52] <+poordoge> why is buy4 bothering you so much? this is the internet

[14:52] <+poordoge> why do you need so much vrc?

[14:52] <jl777> right now 1 VRC and remove buy4crypto, he is cancer

[14:52] <Dick_Green> buy4 has been pretty rude he has been saying some pretty hurtful things with no facts to back them up

[14:52] <jl777> poordoge i am just strange that way

[14:52] <@effects> jl777: you do come off not so modest initially

[14:52] <Guest18609> remove him from here he's been nothing but rude and most of the community wants this

[14:53] <jl777> effects false modesty serves nobody

[14:53] <jl777> i have track record

[14:53] <jl777> i speak my mind

[14:53] <@effects> i get that

[14:53] <jl777> a fractured community cannot succeed

[14:53] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ?

[14:53] <jl777> the barrabas

[14:53] <jl777> the buy4crypto

[14:53] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:53] <jl777> the altuk

[14:53] <Dick_Green> james is like the next kobe bryant

[14:53] <jl777> get rid of those three

[14:54] <jl777> then progress is possible

[14:54] <buy4crypto> critical thinkers have to go, we need sheep! I hear ya jl777

[14:54] <buy4crypto> round em up girl!

[14:54] <Guest18609> yes please lord get rid of those 3

[14:54] <techbytes> Dick_Green lol

[14:54] <buy4crypto> yeah, once the 3 critical thinkers are gone, millions of satoshi! easy!

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[14:54] <Guest18609> you guys have been a virus to vericoin the thread is a war zone

[14:54] <jl777> effect i have one hour before the ipo, plz choose between me or buy4crypto

[14:54] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ? timeline ?

[14:54] <Guest18609> 24 hrs to ring in 55k

[14:55] <Guest18609> 500k*

[14:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: One hour and what does that mean for us?

[14:55] <buy4crypto> For all you ignorant assholes, ask effects if I have been helpful or hurtful to the coin. I PM them often with ideas and suggestions.

[14:55] <jl777> i changed my terms to 1 VRC but remove buy4crypto

[14:55] <MichelausGer> I transfered 10 % of my amount

[14:55] <buy4crypto> I am not here to hurt you, I am here to protect this coin from failure.

[14:55] == mode/#vericoin [+o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:55] == mode/#vericoin [-q *!*@71.176.111.*] by ScottAllyn

[14:55] <bananacat> helpful or not theres a right and wrong way to go about things

[14:55] <Guest18609> take the term!!!!!!

[14:55] == mode/#vericoin [-o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:55] <Dick_Green> ya its so worth

[14:55] <Guest18609> 1 vrc and get rid of him

[14:55] <jl777> buy4 yes we are not compatible, it is me or you, let the community decide

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> shit like that is just not necessary

[14:56] <Guest18609> OMG

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> 1 VRC? Just remove buy4crypto Done! lol

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> er...

[14:56] == mode/#vericoin [+o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Haha!

[14:56] <Dick_Green> done deal

[14:56] == mode/#vericoin [+q *!*@71.176.111.*] by ScottAllyn

[14:56] <@ScottAllyn> heh

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Joking btw.

[14:56] <Guest18609> DONE

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[14:56] <jl777> is he blocked?

[14:56] <MichelausGer> @doug: can you please post the ecrow adress in the BTC forum?

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> he's getting a timeout

[14:56] <Guest18609> for the love of god block him

[14:57] <jl777> ok, so maybe I can explain the plan for VRC?

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> little too wound up to be able to speak his mind without being an ass

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You're close too bro. Relax.

[14:57] <jl777> now i am many things

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: please do.

[14:57] <jl777> i am an artist

[14:57] <jl777> an emotional sensitive artist

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> and he already spoke it 10x over... he was just repeating himself and getting worked up.

[14:57] <Guest18609> ok im relaxing

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Wolong?

[14:57] <jl777> the environment needs to be positive for creativity

[14:58] <Dick_Green> i feel you james

[14:58] <jl777> if i come to a thread and it is swear words, gonna fail, blah blah

[14:58] <jl777> i just want to go elsewhere

[14:58] <Guest18609> i agree

[14:58] <jl777> so the first priority for VRC is to change the tone

[14:58] <jl777> the discourse

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> We're doing that actually.

[14:58] <jl777> it has to be ZERO tolerance for anything that is not fact based

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Really soon.

[14:59] <jl777> veryvery then why one hour of buy4 nonsense

[14:59] <jl777> is that anyway to treat a guest?

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Because we're in IRC.

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude.

[14:59] <Dick_Green> fuck that move on

[14:59] <Dick_Green> james was about to open up

[14:59] <jl777> verivery i dont understand IRC means we stop being civil people?

[14:59] <techbytes> veryveri, relax...  

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Not everyone is going to agree with you.

[14:59] <jl777> debate is 100% fine

[15:00] <jl777> fact based

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> True.

[15:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[15:00] <jl777> when it goes, you are scum, you are manipulator

[15:00] <jl777> these are not facts

[15:00] <jl777> these are slander

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Agreed.

[15:00] <jl777> this makes me want to go to a happy thread

[15:00] <Guest18609> been trying to say that without sounding like a cheerleade

[15:00] <Guest18609> he's gone now though

[15:00] <Guest18609> were good

[15:01] <jl777> if you are a football player do you want cute girls cheering or ugly guys complaining at you

[15:01] <@effects> jl777: you are dealing with humans remember, lol

[15:01] <@effects> not machines

[15:01] <Dick_Green> or if ur the next kobe

[15:01] <jl777> effects then why am i traeted lke some sammer?

[15:01] <jl777> scammer

[15:01] <jl777> pump and dumper?

[15:01] <jl777> what?

[15:01] <jl777> me?

[15:01] <@effects> because it's the norm in crypto these days

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I still am unable to find a valid reason, or concern that led to my muting by Scott, but you all can decide if I was being "over the line" or if he overstepped his boundaries.

[setup]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

[ereborltc]

it was to keep the deal alive and the entire community wants it.. i get your point but can we move on plz..

[onsightit]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

Bumping through IRC dump...

[ereborltc]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

exactly and hasn't even been announced yet...

escrow looks good lets keep this going remember pnosker is also sending 70k!

[warr1979]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

Still like to know more.... Im not saying its not beneficial and won't be most likely it will.  I just like to know what is being brought this is an investment in money but in the future of currency history.  People don't see that aspect in crypto from barter to salt to paper to digital.  So I just want to know details why and Im willing to help

[effectsToCause]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

No you will be selling your VRC at the price listed above at a future date to jl777.  You then will get .0001 BTC worth of VRC back for every VRC you donated to escrow, sent back to the original send address you sent it from.  It's just a future sale of coin that will paid back to you in VRC at market prices then, or if it falls through you will get back whatever you donated back to the address you sent from.

[ereborltc]

ya of course read the huge posts from the irc...setup posted it

[buy4crypto]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

No you will be selling your VRC at the price listed above at a future date to jl777.  You then will get .0001 BTC worth of VRC back for every VRC you donated to escrow, sent back to the original send address you sent it from.  It's just a future sale of coin that will paid back to you in VRC at market prices then, or if it falls through you will get back whatever you donated back to the address you sent from.

And at this point, you must hope everything went well. If you are likely to get your coins back because of a failed deal, DO NOT expect the market to be stepping up in droves to buy them all back for 10k.

A failed cooperation between any parties in this new venture could unravel the whole thing. Look at how divided this community is, now add in 10 more, many of the same ones who have people who constantly attack vericoin and everything it stands for.... This sounds like a good fit? REALLY!

[VeryVeriViral]

What is funny is. I should be with you all cheering on jl777 as I have a lot to benefit if / when that gets more momentum. I was only looking at long term what vericoin will become if you chose to go under the umbrella of another project over being a stand alone currency.

My main point was being mainstream will be harder when we are the same technology advantages are BBR, and any other "broken" coin that is put under this project. You choose here, abandoned mainstream, get a quick pump and let the coin linger indefinately. Or you solve tough issues today and work toward being the ONE coin that will be mainstream.

Maybe we don't have a vision anymore, maybe its not attainable, then by all means, give up and take this deal. If you all still think its worth fighting for (like I do) then you will see what the future holds for VRC/BBR/BTCD/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/ coin that we will be lumped with as part of the "supernet" project. No more vericoin being a big deal, or the big deal. It will be just a small pawn in his fantasy world.

I hope people who care about VRC realize what you are signing up for before its to late. Be careful of those big holders like ScottAllyn who will try anything to pump the price to make the significant bag they hold a little easier to deal with.

Pls DM me on Twitter. Thanx!

Jay Jay
@VeryVeriViral

[setup]

@effects: can you post an intermediate state of the fund sometimes?

[buy4crypto]

What is funny is. I should be with you all cheering on jl777 as I have a lot to benefit if / when that gets more momentum. I was only looking at long term what vericoin will become if you chose to go under the umbrella of another project over being a stand alone currency.

My main point was being mainstream will be harder when we are the same technology advantages are BBR, and any other "broken" coin that is put under this project. You choose here, abandoned mainstream, get a quick pump and let the coin linger indefinately. Or you solve tough issues today and work toward being the ONE coin that will be mainstream.

Maybe we don't have a vision anymore, maybe its not attainable, then by all means, give up and take this deal. If you all still think its worth fighting for (like I do) then you will see what the future holds for VRC/BBR/BTCD/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/ coin that we will be lumped with as part of the "supernet" project. No more vericoin being a big deal, or the big deal. It will be just a small pawn in his fantasy world.

I hope people who care about VRC realize what you are signing up for before its to late. Be careful of those big holders like ScottAllyn who will try anything to pump the price to make the significant bag they hold a little easier to deal with.

Pls DM me on Twitter. Thanx!

Jay Jay
@VeryVeriViral

I can't I follow 1 person on twitter, I dont do PM's on there, PM me here if you want. skype, IRC, w/e

Shoot me over your skype ID I message you on that.

[Xosihc]

So how much VRC do we need in total to get this deal done? I've seen a variety of numbers floating around here.

Also where are we at as far as donations go? I know we have at least 100k VRC coming from altcoinUK 

[effectsToCause]

@effects: can you post an intermediate state of the fund sometimes?

track fund: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6.htm

[Coinler]

hey guys what i miss? and who's whining because they sold at 8k? err thanks! lol