[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[ScottAllyn]

Go fuck yourself you pretensious shit. So had everyone else, the only difference is my point of view differed from yours, so you muted me. You don't go muting the people who keep talking about the other side of the coin did you? HOW THE FUCK IS THAT RIGHT? I have every right to have an opinion, even if it differs from yours. Plenty of people abused me at the same time you where muting me, they kept speeking in the same tone, yet there actions where deemed "okay" from ScottAllyn, the IRC chat chief of police.

Sorry, but you were the only one in the channel calling others assholes and idiots for even wanting to hear the guy out. That went on for at least half an hour before I silenced you and I'd told you to quit doing that on 3 separate occasions over that time period. You were not silenced for expressing your opinion; you were silenced for being an ass.

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[buy4crypto]

What is funny is. I should be with you all cheering on jl777 as I have a lot to benefit if / when that gets more momentum. I was only looking at long term what vericoin will become if you chose to go under the umbrella of another project over being a stand alone currency.

My main point was being mainstream will be harder when we are the same technology advantages are BBR, and any other "broken" coin that is put under this project. You choose here, abandoned mainstream, get a quick pump and let the coin linger indefinately. Or you solve tough issues today and work toward being the ONE coin that will be mainstream.

Maybe we don't have a vision anymore, maybe its not attainable, then by all means, give up and take this deal. If you all still think its worth fighting for (like I do) then you will see what the future holds for VRC/BBR/BTCD/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/ coin that we will be lumped with as part of the "supernet" project. No more vericoin being a big deal, or the big deal. It will be just a small pawn in his fantasy world.

I hope people who care about VRC realize what you are signing up for before its to late. Be careful of those big holders like ScottAllyn who will try anything to pump the price to make the significant bag they hold a little easier to deal with.

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[13:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'll call Doug right now.

[13:55] <buy4crypto> so make me proud, I want to be rich

[13:56] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> without doing nothing buy4crypto :p

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[13:56] <@VeryVeriViral> He's gonna be pissed I'm waking him up. smh You better be solid man. Really.

[13:56] <jl777> for those know my work, you know what my unique tech is worth

[13:56] <Guest18609> i do

[13:57] <Guest18609> please jl777 I'm telling you were getting this done

[13:57] <BagHolder> Hey Very, we already know James is solid

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You've been cheerleading him this whole time. How much VRC are you putting in?

[13:57] <Guest18609> there will be 500k raised within 24hrs

[13:57] <BagHolder> and pnosk already knows

[13:57] <BagHolder> we just need a lead

[13:57] <Guest18609> ill put in 3k

[13:57] <Guest18609> thats a lot for me

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> 3k?

[13:58] <jl777> now be clear that inclusion into SuperNET core wont be until there is some new tech

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Alright.

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> When is that new tech?

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Estimate?

[13:58] <jl777> and that this deal is with me personally, the tech I can estimate ~6mo to alpha/beta

[13:58] <Guest18609> the price will rise just on the fact that we close this deal

[13:59] <jl777> now I think there will be good chance for CORE inclusion if I put in a good word

[13:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: It's not about the short term bro.

[13:59] <Guest18609> we know this

[13:59] <buy4crypto> Wow, wow wow, Its hard to believe what I am seeing in here, but I guess desperation leads to many things.

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How many coins have signed on so far ?

[14:00] <BagHolder> buy4, what's your problem?  will you please stay your point factually, please?

[14:00] <jl777> guest18609 if I tell my investors that VRC is long term buy and I will add tech to it next year, well that is what happened to BBR

[14:00] <Guest18609> seriously guys i don't want to sound like a cheerleader

[14:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:00] <Guest18609> look at vrc now has anyone noticed its at 13k

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[14:00] <jl777> you have to realize hundreds of people that invested in my projects have made close to 10 million USD in last 4 months

[14:00] <Guest18609> this is the jl777 effect

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude that's due to MACD

[14:00] <Guest18609> the rest is long term an will flourish

[14:01] <Guest18609> no its not lol

[14:01] <jl777> veryvery, if I announce to my list, the price will double in hours

[14:01] <Guest18609> less than hrs

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay Guest18609  just shhhhh. For like second.

[14:01] <jl777> this is why i insisted on secrecy

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay I'll call Doug now.

[14:01] <jl777> i do not want to cause a pump for something that wont happen

[14:01] <BagHolder> James, I just want to be clear right now.  Our contributions to VRC mean that we're a committed community.  That's why you're a little flexible with price?

[14:02] <jl777> the big problem with VRC is that it could not handle the mintpal incident

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> I wish you could do 300k - then 600k on the back end.

[14:02] <jl777> now few communities would have been able to

[14:02] <jl777> so nothing againt anyone

[14:02] <jl777> not personal

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: See that...

[14:02] <buy4crypto> jl777, it handled it very well.

[14:02] <jl777> big loss of money makes people cranky

[14:02] <Guest18609> ya it was tough

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude... we're about to overcome ALL of that.

[14:02] <buy4crypto> Big heads and ego's, you need to come back to earth jl777

[14:03] <Guest18609> yes and this can be the perfect stepping stool

[14:03] <buy4crypto> get your name off every code you make "im a simple C+ programmer"

[14:03] <jl777> buy4crypto, just read the last 50 pages of thread, it is disaster about the worst atmosphere i have seen

[14:03] <buy4crypto> blah blah, egomaniac, what a joke.

[14:03] <Guest18609> super net takes nothing away from vrc it just adds

[14:03] <jl777> i had to intervene in the XMR BBR fued

[14:03] <buy4crypto> you all enjoy your circle jerk,. im out

[14:03] <jl777> it was killing both the coins

[14:03] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> bb

[14:03] <jl777> i am a fixer of broken coins

[14:03] <jl777> i am glad he is gone

[14:03] <Guest18609> pls don't listen to buy4crytpo

[14:03] <jl777> plz get rid of all those guys

[14:03] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: VeriCoin isn't broken.

[14:04] <jl777> veryvery ok you dont need me, bye

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> This is not how you broker a deal James.

[14:04] <Guest18609> stop

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay fine. Peace.

[14:04] <Guest18609> man

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[14:04] <Guest18609> don't listen to veriviral

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> I have no time for FUD.

[14:04] <Dick_Green> lets just take a moment

[14:04] <Guest18609> the community wants this and has spoken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> obv vrc isnt broken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> and james wasnt saying that

[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

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[14:05] <Guest18609> stop what

[14:05] <Dick_Green> this is a win win for the both

[14:05] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> +m

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[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Just stop. In general.

[14:05] <Guest18609> ITS A WIN WIN

[14:05] <Guest18609> NO RISK

[14:06] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> dude.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Guest18609, you have a lot to learn. The minute you accept this deal you have basically become BBR, and every other "broken" coin that guy said he'll repair.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> I forgot, was vericoin unique, and special? or just another alt under some egomaniacs umbrella? Think about it before you all chear so blindly

[14:06] <Dick_Green> crypto ur talking out of ur ass

[14:06] <Guest18609> said hell repair... do u not watch the market

[14:06] <Guest18609> is btcd not at 1.4million

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Dick, you have no clue how real business works, or how to get ahead, sure, take the easy way out, most of you want to.

[14:06] <Guest18609> growing

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> Grow Vericoin for the future, not for a quick pump.

[14:07] <BagHolder> I need to go, I'll be back in a bit.  I need a word from effects pnosk and socal and then I think we're good

[14:07] <@VeryVeriViral> All I'm saying is this... VeriCoin isn't "broken" and we don't need "charity". If someone wants to do business... let's do it. But DON'T belittle our coin, company or brand.

[14:07] <MichelausGer> so one of our devs has to put the facts together, install escrow and we see what will happen

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> jl777 is NOT what you all need, but its what will make the next 1-2 days "exciting" worth a trade? stop. Work on longterm value

[14:07] <Dick_Green> crypto have u read anything about supernet

[14:07] <Guest18609> ESCROW FOR 1 YEAR

[14:07] <buy4crypto> I own SuperNetNews.com

[14:08] <buy4crypto> so yeah, I am up on it.

[14:08] <Guest18609> thats not a quick pump

[14:08] <@VeryVeriViral> lol

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I know all about superNet, and wht VeriCoin should be fighting to stay away, but...

[14:08] <buy4crypto> Some don't see the big picture unfortunately.

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I am glad @VeriVeriViral has his senses about him.

[14:08] <Guest18609> oh my

[14:09] <Guest18609> smh

[14:09] <Dick_Green> why is supernet so bad

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[14:09] <Dick_Green> how would it negatively effect vrc

[14:09] <Guest18609> it cannot

[14:09] <Guest18609> we have ZERO risk

[14:09] <Dick_Green> i wana hear from crypto

[14:09] <buy4crypto> This coin isn't broken, it needs support and guidance, not some egomaniac who puts his name on all coding he does in the supernet library

[14:09] <Guest18609> this is crazy

[14:09] <@VeryVeriViral> I have nothing against jl777 . I just don't like his approach. He can do better than that.

[14:09] <buy4crypto> Well, Dick, you know BBR is in the umbrella correct?

[14:09] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:10] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:10] <buy4crypto> BBR would be as valuable to the supernet team, / world as VRC, and any other "broken" coin that decides to be in the supernet

[14:10] <Guest18609> we need to stop playing games we cannot get fucked!

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[14:10] <buy4crypto> Basiclly, by his wording, you say "yes we are broken, come save us jl777"

[14:10] <Guest18609> its in escrow

[14:10] <Guest18609> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> lol

[14:11] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:11] <Dick_Green> adding ur coin to the supernet would give it value

[14:11] <buy4crypto> Listen up. Dick, respond to me okay, what do you think of that

[14:11] <Guest18609> were saying its a genius project and wed be retarded to not be part of it

[14:11] <buy4crypto> do you like the term "broken crypto" and Vericoin together?

[14:11] <Dick_Green> i think ur wrong

[14:11] <buy4crypto> sounds valuable?

[14:11] <buy4crypto> like a mainstream currency?

[14:11] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: We aren't "fucked" - with or without SuperNET. That's my point.

[14:11] <buy4crypto> gimme a fucking break and open up your eyes kids.

[14:11] <Guest18609> yes and i believe that also

[14:11] <Dick_Green> ur main point is that james is an egomaniac so supernet is bad and all coins who join it are broken

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[14:12] <Guest18609> give u a break which what

[14:12] <Guest18609> we have no risk!!

[14:12] <buy4crypto> he tells you he can fix a broken currency... right there I would be insulted.

[14:12] <Guest18609> what is so difficult to understand

[14:12] <Dick_Green> no

[14:12] <Phaeton> OK - can´t take this dashing anymore - by - for 2 hours

[14:12] <buy4crypto> This isn't a broken currency if you people would work for something, instead of expect someone else to do everything for you.

[14:12] <Dick_Green> hes not comming here to fix our broken currency

[14:12] <Dick_Green> he is comming here to see how the community feels about supernet

[14:12] <Guest18609> omg u don't get it

[14:12] <Guest18609> hes not fixing it

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> I think jl777 is the real deal. However I don't like how he's talking about "saving" us. Or getting so sensitive and saying "Okay bye" etc.

[14:13] <Guest18609> get over your ego for 24 hrs plz

[14:13] <buy4crypto> why did he call this broken then ?

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> ^

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[14:13] <Guest18609> he is if you follow his work you would know this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> hes a  Negotiator

[14:13] <Guest18609> because vericoin is kinda broken right now don't u see this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> if i was james i would have a supermassive ego

[14:13] <Guest18609> it wasn't an insult

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> Well he can call me or Skype me ANYTIME and really negotiate.

[14:13] <buy4crypto> 18609, why did he call this broken? and wouldn't that imply he can fix them? like he said he can, thats what he does. He saves alt coins, LOL

[14:13] <Guest18609> it was truth

[14:14] <Guest18609> doesn't mean were not gonna fix it

[14:14] <Guest18609> but its the present situation

[14:14] <buy4crypto> Its broken because of you people who want these "juggernaut" deals, and deals with nutballs like jl777

[14:14] <Guest18609> thread is a disaster to say the least

[14:14] <Guest18609> your bashing from an opinion based on nothing

[14:15] <@VeryVeriViral> BCT is a disaster. The new forums are pristine!

[14:15] <Guest18609> all he's done is make coins skyrocket and innovate new ideas

[14:15] <buy4crypto> People can be working on real progress, and talking about real, solid things to move the needle, yet we waste energy on these "saviors" who make everybody rich.. yeah right.

[14:15] <buy4crypto> 18609, skyrocket? for how long

[14:15] <Dick_Green> crypto just stop typing

[14:15] <Guest18609> no one goes on new forums don't u get that

[14:15] <buy4crypto> because all I see is BITCOIN, and a buncha shit alts lately

[14:15] <Dick_Green> uve missed the point like 10 times already

[14:15] <Guest18609> people will always go to bct

[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609:  the new forums haven't launched yet. Get that?

[14:16] <Guest18609> veritalk

[14:16] <Guest18609> there was  one

[14:16] <Guest18609> it didn't work

[14:16] <Guest18609> .....

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[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> www.vericoinforums.com

[14:16] <Guest18609> you must not trade much verivery

[14:16] <buy4crypto> the guy sold his vericoin, that is why that didn't work

[14:16] <buy4crypto> he was in it to make a buck, like 99.9% of you

[14:16] <MichelausGer> again, what can we lose if we do this deal?

[14:16] <jl777> ok i am back, 104 minutes left

[14:17] <buy4crypto> after he sold out, he tried to sell the forum.

[14:17] <Guest18609> nothing we can't lose anything

[14:17] <jl777> buy4crypto, how much VRC do you have?

[14:17] <Guest18609> and seems to me pride is stopping a few ppl from thinking clearly

[14:17] <Guest18609> we can't lose

[14:17] <Guest18609> escrow!!

[14:17] <buy4crypto> jl777, I think its best for you to ignore me, you are a very sensative women... or maybe a man.

[14:17] <Guest18609> jl777 GETS ZERO

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[14:18] <jl777> buy4crypto, plz answer at least range

[14:18] <Guest18609> for a year and if he delivers

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> I have 165,000 VRC.

[14:18] <Guest18609> bro u stop

[14:18] <Guest18609> I'm proud of u

[14:18] <jl777> if buy4crypto is a VRC whale then this is difficult for me to work with constant attacks

[14:18] <jl777> creating software is very hard to do

[14:18] <Guest18609> hes not lol

[14:18] <buy4crypto> I have 0 vrc dude,. hows that?

[14:19] <jl777> all conditions must be right

[14:19] <jl777> buy4crypto if that is the case, plz leave

[14:19] <jl777> this is about getting VRC back to ATH and beyond

[14:19] <@VeryVeriViral> We're going to do that though.

[14:19] <jl777> i cannot create a masterpiece if there is a troll constantly annoying me

[14:20] <Dick_Green> james this is a public irc

[14:20] <jl777> verivery i recognize a good negotiator

[14:20] <jl777> dick g, i understand

[14:20] <jl777> verifvery, so let us agree to not do negotiation games, no time, 100 minutes left

[14:20] <buy4crypto> dude, you have got to be the most sensative person in the world. How are you going to meld so many communities together when you act like a baby man?

[14:20] <jl777> buy4crypto why are you still here?

[14:20] <guest_____> jl777 pls confirm this is you. Golf or putt-putt?

[14:20] <jl777> putt-putt

[14:21] <guest_____> thanks

[14:21] <Dick_Green> good choice

[14:21] <techbytes> lol

[14:21] <Guest18609> lol

[14:21] <techbytes> guest i could have answer that...

[14:21] <buy4crypto> jl777 is a fan of the notebook

[14:21] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'm not negotiating. I'm telling you STRAIGHT UP... VeriCoin is good right now. If you can help... GREAT... let's do business.

[14:21] <guest_____> true

[14:21] <buy4crypto> love stories, hearts, fluffy bunnies

[14:21] <Guest18609> of course he can help

[14:21] <Guest18609> more than u understand

[14:22] <jl777> veryvery if you think VRC is having no issues, then this is not reality

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[14:22] <Guest18609> seriously

[14:22] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am here because I count on you making me rich, just not by trashing another coin I own

[14:22] <jl777> mintpal rollback was a near fatal blow

[14:22] <jl777> buy4crypto you have no coins so no voice

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[14:22] <jl777> or you can admit you are whale

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[14:22] <jl777> then we listen

[14:22] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I KNOW we're good because... I KNOW... we're good.

[14:22] <Dick_Green> im a tuna

[14:23] <@VeryVeriViral> I know whales that eat other whales...

[14:23] <jl777> verivery being good is nice, BBR was good, but it was in a death spiral 1/40'th of xmr

[14:23] <Dick_Green> very were u able to get in touch with dug

[14:23] <jl777> good tech is not enough when there are 300 coins

[14:23] <buy4crypto> jl777 VeriCoin will be biger than ur group of misfit clones that you will fail to provide any value to jl777, that is the brutal reality. You make up this happy fun land make believe world and try to sell it to the ignorant shareholders of "broken" coins.

[14:23] <buy4crypto> what a honorable butterfly.

[14:23] <Guest18609> don't listen to him

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Dick_Green: I texted him but no reply.

[14:24] <jl777> ok, i dont have time to be debating people like buy4crypto, is there a way to put him on ignore

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Don't know if I should call him for this.

[14:24] <jl777> i am not so familiar with irc

[14:24] <Guest18609> i dont tink so

[14:24] <Dick_Green> i think it would be okay

[14:24] <Dick_Green> its only 8:30

[14:24] <thph> somebody with an @ can ban here

[14:24] <jl777> then can you guys convince him to stop his trolling

[14:25] <Guest18609> veryveri can

[14:25] <Dick_Green> theres no way of that james

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is the interenet

[14:25] <Dick_Green> common

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> How many people in here want me to call Doug? Let your voice be known.

[14:25] <Dick_Green> me

[14:25] <Guest18609> me

[14:25] <buy4crypto> I am sorry, is there no room for an opposite opinion? Usually when people get upset about that its because they are trying to work an angle on ya.

[14:25] <thph> please call him

[14:25] <Guest18609> we needhim here

[14:25] <MichelausGer> please call him up it's urgent

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is important i dont think he would mind

[14:25] <jl777> my ipo is starting soon and i dont want to waste it explaining that 1+1 = 2

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I hear ya bro. Just let's hear him out. Let's keep it cool for a little.

[14:26] <@VeryVeriViral> K calling him.

[14:26] <jl777> i see a lot of handles, are they all actually here?

[14:26] <techbytes> a lot are here idling for news and updates

[14:27] <Shinraven> 8 am east coast...hello gentlemen, you have been busy. James thank you for sharing your ideas

[14:27] <ScottAllyn> jl777: many idle here and check the chat periodically throughout the day. Staying in here even when they're not active allows them to scroll back up thru the chat log to catch up with what they missed.

[14:27] <buy4crypto> IRC is common sense. not very hard, a great way to keep up with teams, and investors. pretty suprising, such a great simple C+ programmer should be able to figure out!

[14:28] <Guest18609> wow it'll all be in escrwo

[14:28] <jl777> buy3crypto thanks for that, it really helps doesnt it? do you want to help VRC or not

[14:28] <Guest18609> nothing to lose whatsoever

[14:28] <Dick_Green> lol crypto u so mad

[14:28] <Guest18609> ya and rude

[14:29] <buy4crypto> I am helping VRC, I don't see any value in being another "broken" crypto in your bag.

[14:29] <jl777> well buy4?

[14:29] <Guest18609> pls ignore him james

[14:29] <jl777> buy4 is NXT broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or bbr

[14:29] <jl777> is BTCD broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or btcd

[14:29] <Guest18609>

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay

[14:29] <jl777> BBR was technically not broken

[14:29] <buy4crypto> Your vocal few, that want instant profits will cheer anythign, anyone says to make them a buck, I see no longterm value in your deal for VRC. You make out very well though.

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Talked to Doug.

[14:29] <Guest18609> like seriously this is what vericoin has been dealing with

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone CHILL.

[14:29] <jl777> but it was 1/40 xmr until last week when i fixed it, now it is 1/4

[14:30] <Guest18609> its not instant!!

[14:30] <techbytes> buy4crypto, what have you done for me lately... now stfu and chill.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> He'll be here in 5 minutes. He's putting his son in the car.

[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if VRC goes 5x, how is there no long term value?

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[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if 10x how is there no value?

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Doug will be here in 5 minutes.

[14:30] <jl777> is that the extent of your math abilities?

[14:30] <buy4crypto> jl777 ask the people who bought at 50-58k how that will help them. That was the last pump and dump.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone relax.

[14:31] <buy4crypto> this might be another pump and dump, crypto loves ponzis

[14:31] <buy4crypto> where I stand, is I want to create value that LASTS.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Just relax homie. Please. Let's cool down.

[14:31] <jl777> buy4 that is what I do, buy, hodl, build value

[14:31] <buy4crypto> longterm value, crazy huh? I feel like actually helping people longterm, not playing musical chairs and leaving x amount of people to suffer, while early manipulators profit.

[14:31] <ScottAllyn> throwing insults back n' forth isn't doing anybody any good.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with you. I really do.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> But let's relax.

[14:31] <Dick_Green> james do u always spell hold as hodl

[14:32] <jl777> so if these loud voices are thinking i am manipulator, then there is no hope

[14:32] <ScottAllyn> Dick_Green: there's a long history there.

[14:32] <jl777> buy4 do you know anything about me?

[14:32] <techbytes> jl777, there is only one loud voice here... and he doesn't speak for the community.

[14:32] <buy4crypto> you are a simple C+ programmer that puts your name on everything

[14:32] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Can you Pls relax as well?

[14:33] <comcry> Nice VRC move

[14:33] <jl777> buy4 my name is actually not jl777

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Both of you... chill.

[14:33] <buy4crypto> but I just know what I read on supernet news. I know more of the deal you are proposing than you, and its scary to be lumped into a basket of unproven, "broken" coins

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Calm it all down fellas.

[14:33] <MichelausGer> @buy4 are you copying barabbas?

[14:33] <jl777> where do you get that SuperNET core coins are broken? only the best coins get into the core

[14:33] <guest_____> I have benefited greatly from James' investments...take the deal, all win. Not that difficult.

[14:34] <buy4crypto> If they where able to be standalone coins, they would.

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: What do you think of ICO?

[14:34] <jl777> verivery in what way?

[14:34] <Shinraven> Buy4crypto cool it. unreal

[14:34] <buy4crypto> Its a new, noble approach, have a guy with a big ego, tell 10x communities he will bring them all together? You can't even bring the VRC community together, you think bringing this coin into the fold will bring value to who, how?

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Is it worthy of SuperNET?

[14:34] <jl777> is what worthy?

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> ICO

[14:35] <jl777> cant parse what you are saying, is ICO worthy of SuperNET? please rephrase

[14:35] <buy4crypto> @Shinraven so, The only person here thinking rationally, again, since I dont trade coins for profit.... is yelled at for looking longterm, over a quick pump and dump

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> Which coins are worthy? In your opinion of SuperNET?

[14:35] <buy4crypto> At least I know who has longterm value in mind, and who the people are with short term aspirations to profit bigtime and dump.

[14:36] <jl777> very few

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> Like 265?

[14:36] <jl777> dozens are applying, I have a team of 4 prescreening

[14:36] <jl777> i think maybe half a dozen to a dozen in the core

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> NXT is on right?

[14:36] <jl777> yes NXT gets the 2.0 crypto featyres

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> BitCoinDark is on right?

[14:37] <jl777> BTCD gets the Teleport, InstantDEX and Privatebet

[14:37] <jl777> BBR adds cryptonote

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> Oh I see.

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> So you're giving each coin different... applications/features?

[14:37] <jl777> so a coin has to have something unique and valuable to all the other coins. have no clue why buy4 keeps sayung broken coins

[14:37] <buy4crypto> Is a reason all these coins didn't join other teams to begin with, everycoin is unique, and offered something different. Bringing together all these coins, all these communities is like trying to bring together palestinians and isrealies.

[14:38] <jl777> buy4 the enemy is fiat, not each other

[14:38] <buy4crypto> You people who just look at the good in everything are fucking every longterm investor here by your need for instant satisfaction of higher price VRC, shame

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Let's just hear him out.

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> The enemy IS Fiat. I agree.

[14:38] <jl777> guys like buy4 crypto will make it 10 times harder to make progress

[14:38] <jl777> not that VRC needs any progress

[14:38] <jl777> just saying

[14:38] <jl777> is it like brownian motion

[14:39] <buy4crypto> guys like buy4crypto see through bullshit, and aren'tmotivated by short term profits.

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> No One in here is more of a long term investor than I am. Let's hear him out.

[14:39] <jl777> if everything is random there is no progress

[14:39] <jl777> if everybody agrees, even if it isnt the best idea then at least progress is made

[14:39] <jl777> so, with loud voices complaining about everything, nothing happens

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I hear ya.

[14:39] <jl777> now if a coin is accepted into the SuperNET core

[14:39] <buy4crypto> jl777 what does vericoin have thats unique?

[14:40] <jl777> then it will get cross marketed to all the other coin's users

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Let's relax. buy4crypto - Pls chill.

[14:40] <jl777> so it must have something unique

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Ohhhhh

[14:40] <buy4crypto> I will leave you alone after you give me a chance to respond to your response.

[14:40] <jl777> then as SuperNET is generating revenues

[14:40] <Shinraven> @buy4crypto based on what i read so far this sounds long term, for now we should hear everyone out

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> I see what's he's implying now.

[14:40] <jl777> currently I am allocating 20% to go to the coin communities

[14:40] <buy4crypto> This is a very important thing to realize, what is VRC adding to you jl77&?

[14:40] <jl777> buy4 that is part of this deal

[14:40] <buy4crypto> answer me!

[14:41] <jl777> buy4 I will personally code some uniqye features

[14:41] <buy4crypto> what is the unique thing vericoin adds to your platform?

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> I'm beginning to understand this a little better.

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[14:41] <jl777> i was thinking a decentralized USD pegged crypto

[14:41] <jl777> btsx is a holographic peg and will collapse sometime

[14:41] <buy4crypto> so, you are going to make a unique feature for VRC? lol

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I wish you weren't Anon because we could do REALLY good biz.

[14:41] <buy4crypto> unique in the open source world is trully funny.

[14:41] <jl777> not sure how long as the btsx is propping up the price

[14:42] <jl777> so when it starts dropping to where the forced liquidations kick in, nothing will stop the collapse

[14:42] <jl777> but there is clearly demand for fiat pegged crypto

[14:42] <@VeryVeriViral> Remember effects is on his way here. So let's be civil.

[14:43] <jl777> so I think if VRC has this decentralized fiat pegged scheduled for next year

[14:43] <buy4crypto> so, jl777, VeriCoin offers nothing unique to your platform, yet you are here pushing a short time frame to raise money for you?

[14:43] <@VeryVeriViral> The only thing is the 1.3 million. It's SO much dude.

[14:43] <buy4crypto> Anyone else see any trouble here?

[14:43] <jl777> then that is the point to march toward

[14:43] <jl777> buy4 i am not getting anything without success

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You get plenty without success

[14:43] <Guest18609> he's getting nothing!!

[14:43] <jl777> how?

[14:43] <Guest18609> escrow

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You can sell all the coins you have already on the way up, easy profit

[14:44] <buy4crypto> all the people who see 100k, and nothing else will hold, so you can sell, easy

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 the coins are in escrow

[14:44] <Guest18609> jl777 pls ignore him

[14:44] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: He doesn't get any VRC up front.

[14:44] <buy4crypto> You can't buy them on the open market now?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> duh duh duh... genious!

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 i commit to not sell for 3 yrs

[14:44] <buy4crypto> if you guys dont think he could already owns millions, then I can't help you

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 are you rational?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> he knows all thats going on, he isn't here to help vericoin, he is giving you ultimatums.

[14:45] <buy4crypto> he is here to rip you off, to finish the hack attemps, the DDOS attacks, to scam the rest he can

[14:45] <jl777> i own about 200K VRC

[14:45] <buy4crypto> to finish VRC, unreal you all want to accept this

[14:45] <@effects> hey guys

[14:45] <Guest18609> hey

[14:45] <techbytes> hey

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> It goes into an escrow acct.

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I'm going to ask you once more... Pls stop.

[14:45] <jl777> buy4 is convincing me this deal has little chance

[14:45] <jl777> i am not seeing progress

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You guys, okay, here is my deal. I will get the price to 100k I can make C+ codes and promise you the world.

[14:46] <buy4crypto> I wont make any money (I promise) until its at 100k

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You know how much money I would makie before the thing touched 50k??? A LOT

[14:46] <MichelausGer> @buy4crypto: can you do something that vrc rises and i get my losses back? No? then please come down

[14:46] <@effects> buy4crypto:  We will talk about this, give me one second

[14:46] <dallin> buy4 needs to stop

[14:46] <jl777> so if you dont want VRC cross marketed to 100K users, and some of my coding work, i will go

[14:46] <buy4crypto> @Michelausger this is what it has come down to, people just want money back, not a bright future for VRC

[14:46] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with some of your points... I do... but you're delivering them wrong. Please relax.

[14:47] <jl777> i cannot work in a hostile environment

[14:47] <jl777> it just makes me upset and I cannot create good code

[14:47] <Guest18609> pls ignore him jl777

[14:47] <@effects> This is simple, I'm going to post a VRC escrow address and the community decides with their VRC

[14:47] <buy4crypto> You guys see how jl777 is training you all?

[14:47] <jl777> effects with loud voices like buy4, it wont work

[14:48] <Guest18609> seriously can u pls ban buy4

[14:48] <buy4crypto> You wont say anythign mean, cause hes "sensative" you can't say anything or he will "leave"

[14:48] <buy4crypto> so unreal people trust this guy.

[14:48] <Dick_Green> james has got me by the hook take all my money

[14:48] <Guest18609> i dont trust u buy4

[14:48] <jl777> buy4 you can single handedly get me to not do this deal

[14:48] <Guest18609> your rude and this is why we have problems

[14:48] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am one person, if you think it wont work because of me, you will have a lot of challenges with 12 communities

[14:48] <@effects> buy4crypto: I will pm you in  a minute to discuss

[14:48] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you've made your point 10x over. You're just rehashing what you've already said that this point.

[14:48] <buy4crypto> you dont seem stable enoguh to handle the job, your a girly man, at best

[14:49] <Guest18609> pls silence buy4!

[14:49] == effects changed the topic of #vericoin to: ij777 escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

[14:49] <AkaBa> hi james

[14:49] <jl777> ok that;s it VRC community you need to decide between me and buy4crypto, i cannot do VRC if he is around

[14:49] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Please state your entire proposal to effects so he fully understands where we're at. Time wise too. How much and when? Etc.

[14:49] <AkaBa> great work - super commitment

[14:49] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you need to quit that shit now.

[14:49] <buy4crypto> don't decide between me and anything, lol

[14:49] <Guest18609> we all already voiced that were in

[14:49] <jl777> i made no commitment yet

[14:49] <jl777> and i will not commit to work in a hostile environmemnt

[14:49] <Guest18609> were gonna raise the funds 500k within 24hrs

[14:50] <buy4crypto> decide between short term gains, and longterm condemnation of the coin, or choose to ignore this guy and move on and progress the coin the right way

[14:50] <Dick_Green> escrow wallet is up and its only a matter of time

[14:50] <jl777> guest you also need to choose between me and buy4, he is going to make nice codes for you

[14:50] <buy4crypto> jeesus, this guy is good!

[14:50] <techbytes> jl777, buy4 won't be looking over your shoulder while you code so what's the issue?

[14:50] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much do YOU need in Escrow within 24 hours?

[14:50] <jl777> techbytes a coin is not just the code

[14:51] <Guest18609> can u silence BUY4 PLEASE

[14:51] <+poordoge> jl777> tell the vericoin community about yourself, what have you done?

[14:51] <jl777> look at BBR it had better code than XMR and 1/40 th marketcap

[14:51] <@effects> escrow is at topic vote with your VRC

[14:51] <jl777> i do more than just code

[14:51] <jl777> i fix communities

[14:51] <Guest18609> 500k

[14:51] <jl777> you also have to get rid of buy4crypto

[14:51] <buy4crypto> yeah, you dont want any dissodence.

[14:51] <jl777> i will not work for VRC with him constantly undermining me

[14:51] <@effects> we are not going to get rid on non trolls

[14:51] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much VRC do you need Right now so that we're "in"?

[14:52] <+poordoge> why is buy4 bothering you so much? this is the internet

[14:52] <+poordoge> why do you need so much vrc?

[14:52] <jl777> right now 1 VRC and remove buy4crypto, he is cancer

[14:52] <Dick_Green> buy4 has been pretty rude he has been saying some pretty hurtful things with no facts to back them up

[14:52] <jl777> poordoge i am just strange that way

[14:52] <@effects> jl777: you do come off not so modest initially

[14:52] <Guest18609> remove him from here he's been nothing but rude and most of the community wants this

[14:53] <jl777> effects false modesty serves nobody

[14:53] <jl777> i have track record

[14:53] <jl777> i speak my mind

[14:53] <@effects> i get that

[14:53] <jl777> a fractured community cannot succeed

[14:53] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ?

[14:53] <jl777> the barrabas

[14:53] <jl777> the buy4crypto

[14:53] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:53] <jl777> the altuk

[14:53] <Dick_Green> james is like the next kobe bryant

[14:53] <jl777> get rid of those three

[14:54] <jl777> then progress is possible

[14:54] <buy4crypto> critical thinkers have to go, we need sheep! I hear ya jl777

[14:54] <buy4crypto> round em up girl!

[14:54] <Guest18609> yes please lord get rid of those 3

[14:54] <techbytes> Dick_Green lol

[14:54] <buy4crypto> yeah, once the 3 critical thinkers are gone, millions of satoshi! easy!

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[14:54] <Guest18609> you guys have been a virus to vericoin the thread is a war zone

[14:54] <jl777> effect i have one hour before the ipo, plz choose between me or buy4crypto

[14:54] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ? timeline ?

[14:54] <Guest18609> 24 hrs to ring in 55k

[14:55] <Guest18609> 500k*

[14:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: One hour and what does that mean for us?

[14:55] <buy4crypto> For all you ignorant assholes, ask effects if I have been helpful or hurtful to the coin. I PM them often with ideas and suggestions.

[14:55] <jl777> i changed my terms to 1 VRC but remove buy4crypto

[14:55] <MichelausGer> I transfered 10 % of my amount

[14:55] <buy4crypto> I am not here to hurt you, I am here to protect this coin from failure.

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[14:55] == mode/#vericoin [-q *!*@71.176.111.*] by ScottAllyn

[14:55] <bananacat> helpful or not theres a right and wrong way to go about things

[14:55] <Guest18609> take the term!!!!!!

[14:55] == mode/#vericoin [-o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:55] <Dick_Green> ya its so worth

[14:55] <Guest18609> 1 vrc and get rid of him

[14:55] <jl777> buy4 yes we are not compatible, it is me or you, let the community decide

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> shit like that is just not necessary

[14:56] <Guest18609> OMG

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> 1 VRC? Just remove buy4crypto Done! lol

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> er...

[14:56] == mode/#vericoin [+o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Haha!

[14:56] <Dick_Green> done deal

[14:56] == mode/#vericoin [+q *!*@71.176.111.*] by ScottAllyn

[14:56] <@ScottAllyn> heh

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Joking btw.

[14:56] <Guest18609> DONE

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[14:56] <jl777> is he blocked?

[14:56] <MichelausGer> @doug: can you please post the ecrow adress in the BTC forum?

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> he's getting a timeout

[14:56] <Guest18609> for the love of god block him

[14:57] <jl777> ok, so maybe I can explain the plan for VRC?

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> little too wound up to be able to speak his mind without being an ass

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You're close too bro. Relax.

[14:57] <jl777> now i am many things

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: please do.

[14:57] <jl777> i am an artist

[14:57] <jl777> an emotional sensitive artist

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> and he already spoke it 10x over... he was just repeating himself and getting worked up.

[14:57] <Guest18609> ok im relaxing

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Wolong?

[14:57] <jl777> the environment needs to be positive for creativity

[14:58] <Dick_Green> i feel you james

[14:58] <jl777> if i come to a thread and it is swear words, gonna fail, blah blah

[14:58] <jl777> i just want to go elsewhere

[14:58] <Guest18609> i agree

[14:58] <jl777> so the first priority for VRC is to change the tone

[14:58] <jl777> the discourse

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> We're doing that actually.

[14:58] <jl777> it has to be ZERO tolerance for anything that is not fact based

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Really soon.

[14:59] <jl777> veryvery then why one hour of buy4 nonsense

[14:59] <jl777> is that anyway to treat a guest?

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Because we're in IRC.

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude.

[14:59] <Dick_Green> fuck that move on

[14:59] <Dick_Green> james was about to open up

[14:59] <jl777> verivery i dont understand IRC means we stop being civil people?

[14:59] <techbytes> veryveri, relax...  

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Not everyone is going to agree with you.

[14:59] <jl777> debate is 100% fine

[15:00] <jl777> fact based

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> True.

[15:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[15:00] <jl777> when it goes, you are scum, you are manipulator

[15:00] <jl777> these are not facts

[15:00] <jl777> these are slander

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Agreed.

[15:00] <jl777> this makes me want to go to a happy thread

[15:00] <Guest18609> been trying to say that without sounding like a cheerleade

[15:00] <Guest18609> he's gone now though

[15:00] <Guest18609> were good

[15:01] <jl777> if you are a football player do you want cute girls cheering or ugly guys complaining at you

[15:01] <@effects> jl777: you are dealing with humans remember, lol

[15:01] <@effects> not machines

[15:01] <Dick_Green> or if ur the next kobe

[15:01] <jl777> effects then why am i traeted lke some sammer?

[15:01] <jl777> scammer

[15:01] <jl777> pump and dumper?

[15:01] <jl777> what?

[15:01] <jl777> me?

[15:01] <@effects> because it's the norm in crypto these days

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[buy4crypto]

Go fuck yourself you pretensious shit. So had everyone else, the only difference is my point of view differed from yours, so you muted me. You don't go muting the people who keep talking about the other side of the coin did you? HOW THE FUCK IS THAT RIGHT? I have every right to have an opinion, even if it differs from yours. Plenty of people abused me at the same time you where muting me, they kept speeking in the same tone, yet there actions where deemed "okay" from ScottAllyn, the IRC chat chief of police.

Sorry, but you were the only one in the channel calling others assholes and idiots for even wanting to hear the guy out. That went on for at least half an hour before I silenced you and I'd told you to quit doing that on 3 separate occasions over that time period. You were not silenced for expressing your opinion; you were silenced for being an ass.

Being an "ass" in your viewpoint, because I wasn't cheering the deal, like you wanted. Am I right?

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IRC Chat Log Part2

15:01] <jl777> so clearly no research on me at all

[15:01] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Well Crypto isn't the most reliable place.

[15:02] <jl777> well i went from 2 BTC to 2 million USD in 10 months, not exactly the norm

[15:02] <@effects> you announced yourself just a few hours ago while most were asleep

[15:02] <@effects> I understand you are eccentric essentially

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[15:02] <jl777> yes consider me a crazy guy that gets stuff done

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[15:02] <+BlkHandAshdrake> sup people

[15:02] <@effects> Yeah I get that

[15:02] <jl777> i offer no risk deal due to my lack of funds at the time

[15:02] <@VeryVeriViral> The best coders are.

[15:02] <jl777> i would not offer this deal now

[15:03] <Guest18609> zero risk

[15:03] <jl777> but i promised i woild do it if conditions are met

[15:03] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: !

[15:03] <Guest18609> i think were safe with everything in escrow

[15:03] <jl777> i am man of my word

[15:03] <jl777> so even though i am not exactly wanting to, i will do it

[15:03] <jl777> once i accept a project, then they are all the same

[15:03] <jl777> i will do my best

[15:03] <astranor> VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6 address for the fund?

[15:03] <jl777> so this is why the work environment is so important

[15:04] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: So explain how much you need and when you need it. So we're clear.

[15:04] <@effects> astranor: its in the top of this chat

[15:04] <jl777> 1 VRC since buy4 is gone

[15:04] <astranor> k wanted to be sure

[15:04] <@effects> I will post it to the thread

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[15:04] <astranor> sent a small donation there

[15:04] <Guest18609> wow for real

[15:04] <@VeryVeriViral> 1 VRC?

[15:04] <@VeryVeriViral> Done.

[15:04] <jl777>

[15:05] <MichelausGer> @effects: please post the escrow adress also in the btc forum

[15:05] <jl777> of course I will put in 1 VRC worth of effort

[15:05] <Shinraven> this is hilarious

[15:05] <Guest18609> lol

[15:05] <@VeryVeriViral> lol

[15:05] <jl777> so do the best you can for the fund raising

[15:05] <@effects> I'm posting on the thread now the escrow address

[15:05] <jl777> if i can have a positive environment, that is the most important

[15:05] <@effects> the community will decide with coin

[15:05] <Guest18609> thanks

[15:05] <jl777> OK, the plan is this

[15:05] <jl777> 6 months plan for inclusion in the SuperNET core

[15:06] <Guest18609> but we need a moderated thread for that we can't stop the haters

[15:06] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Please, really, explain how much you want - when - and how it will go?

[15:06] <jl777> once in the core any coin is worth $5 mil marketcap

[15:06] <@VeryVeriViral> So VeriCoin will be in the Core?

[15:06] <jl777> veryvery i am trusting the VRC community to show me how motivated they are

[15:06] <jl777> well 1 VRC probablt wont be enough to get my best work

[15:07] <jl777> 10% will get my full attention for however long it takes to get VRC in the SuperNET core

[15:07] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: No I get that. What do YOU REALLY want?

[15:07] <@VeryVeriViral> 10% is SO much dude. You understand right?

[15:07] <@VeryVeriViral> Can we do 5%?

[15:07] <@VeryVeriViral>  Seriously.

[15:08] <jl777> do you want my best work, or second best

[15:08] <Guest18609> but it is safe in escrow and we do have nothing to lose

[15:08] <@VeryVeriViral> We can't get 2.6 million dude.

[15:08] <@VeryVeriViral> Or even 1.3 million.

[15:08] <jl777> are you sure?

[15:08] <@VeryVeriViral> We'll try.

[15:08] <Guest18609> all we can do is try

[15:09] <jl777> now if i have a positive atmosphere I can help to raise it

[15:09] <jl777> remember when I get involved its not just me

[15:09] <@effects> jl777: I'm going to post the escrow address on the talk forum, can you make a clear commitment for the amount you request in writing there. It's unmoderated.

[15:09] <Guest18609> that would be awesome

[15:09] <jl777> make it best efforts and we keep it open until it hits 10%

[15:09] <ScottAllyn> there needs to be a bit of instruction for the escrow. Whoever is maintaining the escrow needs to keep track of exactly who contributed and how much so that they can be paid in btc when the time comes... or refunded the coins if it comes to that. Email addresses need to be collected for it, at a minimum, I'd say.

[15:09] <@VeryVeriViral> It's a LOT. Like I'm being real with you. Man to man. 300k in escrow up front - you implement - 600k when VRC reaches 100k.

[15:10] <@VeryVeriViral> That's doable.

[15:10] <jl777> once people see the jl777 effect (this is what people call it) then i think people will contribute

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[15:10] <Dick_Green> ballin

[15:10] <@VeryVeriViral> We'll try our Veri Best.

[15:10] <jl777> you can just return the deposits to the sending address

[15:10] <@VeryVeriViral>

[15:11] <jl777> well just the fact we are talking boosted 30%

[15:11] <jl777> i estimate if i announce in 6 months VRC is in SuperNET core, a double

[15:11] <ScottAllyn> paying the btc to the contributors in the tricky part, tho. need contact info for that.

[15:11] <jl777> but we need a plan between here and 6 months

[15:11] <jl777> what btc?

[15:11] <jl777> it is all in VRC

[15:11] <@VeryVeriViral> I hope you understand our side too. Like money wise. If you could work with us on that... that would help so much.

[15:12] <jl777> the reason i make it big amount is that this will galvanize community

[15:12] <jl777> this is the primary purpose

[15:12] <@VeryVeriViral> I know.

[15:12] <ScottAllyn> I was under the impression that you would be buying those coins at today's value when the value of vrc rises to a certain level.

[15:12] <jl777> if it is small percent, then it is just one possible project

[15:12] <@VeryVeriViral> I actually understand what you mean.

[15:12] <jl777> scott, yes the structure is as an option

[15:13] <jl777> at the time i didnt have a spare $100K

[15:13] <+BlkHandAshdrake> I think its a small price to pay if we can get more traction from jl777

[15:13] <jl777> yesteday I make $500K from marketgains

[15:13] <ScottAllyn> so wouldn't that btc go back to the contributors?

[15:13] <jl777> scott VRC in , VRC back

[15:13] <@VeryVeriViral> Yeah it's just VRC.

[15:14] <jl777> you have to understand $100K -> $500K is only $400K, sounds callous but this is now small amount

[15:14] <jl777> but for community, it will bind

[15:14] <jl777> everyone working together

[15:14] <jl777> and this guarantees success

[15:15] <thph> see the pnosker post on btc talk: I'm behind him 100%. Let's get this done and with James' help, take VRC to the next level. When I get home today, 75k coins are moving from me to the supernet fund.

[15:15] <jl777> so VRC will boost its strong points over next 6 months

[15:15] <jl777> i think VRC devs can become spokesmen for SuperNET

[15:15] <jl777> I am anon so no public appearance

[15:15] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'm putting in my 50k right now. What's the escrow address. Please don't fuck us over dude. We've come a long way man. Really.

[15:15] <jl777> SuperNET will be #2 on CMC

[15:16] <jl777> there will be media frenzy

[15:16] <ScottAllyn> VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

[15:16] <jl777> I need real world competent talkers to handle this

[15:16] <Guest18609> that would be great

[15:16] <ScottAllyn> https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6.htm

[15:16] <jl777> now, this is not tech

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[15:16] <thph> @VeryVeriViral adress on top here

[15:16] <@effects> escrow address is in topic

[15:16] <Guest18609> they are the perfect faces

[15:17] <jl777> but it will associate the VRC devs as the spokesman for SuperNET, which is effectivelt the collection of the best altcoins

[15:17] <ScottAllyn> I'm anxious to see what snapples puts in.

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[15:17] <jl777> within a year SuperNET will match size of BTC network

[15:17] <jl777> we will get CNN, BBC, etc

[15:17] <jl777> so, this is something to do for the 6 months

[15:17] <jl777> also can do easy stuff like MGW support

[15:17] <jl777> reskinned GUI

[15:17] <astranor> big buy orders coming in

[15:18] <jl777> become SuperNET client

[15:18] <jl777> so not in the core, but a user of it

[15:18] <jl777> now this will make VRC community eligible for revenue sharing

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[15:18] <jl777> not sure how much it will be, but the more active the community, the more this will be

[15:18] <jl777> this is the positive feedback loop built into SuperNET

[15:19] <jl777> the coin communities that are best at getting new nodes, new customers of the services

[15:19] <jl777> they get the biggest share of the 20% revenue sharing

[15:19] <jl777> so this is the 2nd thing

[15:19] <jl777> simply money linkage, but money changes everything

[15:20] <jl777> now i have a decent rep and if I announce that after i finish the current projects, i will be doing some cool tech for VRC

[15:20] <jl777> there will be some people that will buy and HODL

[15:20] <jl777> i did 100x for BTCD in 6 weeks

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[15:20] <jl777> I announced to people at .00015

[15:20] <jl777> curiously the same price for BBR!

[15:21] <jl777> it is only up 10x, but it is only a week

[15:21] <jl777> now VRC will only double

[15:21] <jl777> in the short term

[15:21] <jl777> due to its bigger marketcao

[15:21] <jl777> cap

[15:21] <jl777> however

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[15:21] <jl777> the community needs to convince the bigger crytoverse that it is united

[15:21] <jl777> and has a plan

[15:22] <jl777> so, in addition to the adding the crypto 2.0 features

[15:22] <jl777> i work with the devs to do some useful Tradebots

[15:22] <jl777> there are many such things that are needed

[15:22] <jl777> maybe a collection of these alone would be enough new tech to get added to the core

[15:22] <jl777> not sure, would have to get through the tech eval

[15:23] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Done. 50k VRC on my part alone in Escrow.

[15:23] <jl777> i should not get a free pass, so same standards for VRC

[15:23] <jl777> as for the two dozen other applicants

[15:23] <Shinraven> it would be good to put all of this in writing, then present, so far so good.

[15:23] <jl777> so dont think just because i am involved that there will be any preferences

[15:23] <jl777> copy the log of IRC

[15:23] <jl777> in fact since i am involved, it will be harder to get into the core

[15:24] <jl777> we need to have such amazing cool stuff that nobody will accuse of favoritsm

[15:24] <jl777> price is up 40% now

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[15:24] <jl777> so word is leaking from this IRC

[15:25] <astranor> Any vrc leader with lots of twetter followers can tweet about the escrow adress please,

[15:25] <astranor> ?

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[15:25] <jl777> i need to go for few minutes, brb

[15:26] <astranor> 106k vrc in the escrow already ^^

[15:26] <CryptoGoon> wut

[15:27] <@VeryVeriViral> 50k is mine.

[15:27] <CryptoGoon> we got a little peak already

[15:27] <CryptoGoon> woot

[15:27] <ScottAllyn> jesus, vvv. Did that come from your wallet? it's like 15 different addresses

[15:27] <ScottAllyn> https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/tx.dws?477759.htm

[15:27] <CryptoGoon> hehe

[15:27] <@VeryVeriViral> CryptoGoon: I just followed you yesterday on the Twitters... follow back.

[15:28] <@VeryVeriViral> Scott - Yeah I have like 15 addresses or more. 18 I think.

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[15:28] <@VeryVeriViral> Yeah 18.

[15:28] <CryptoGoon> same nick?

[15:28] <ScottAllyn> woulda been more appropriate if this one was yours https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/tx.dws?477760.htm  'cause of all of the v's

[15:28] <@VeryVeriViral> Oh mine isn't confirmed yet on my end.

[15:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Haha!

[15:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Welp. There it goes.

[15:30] <@VeryVeriViral> CryptoGoon: Yeah.

[15:30] <@VeryVeriViral> VeryVeriViral

[15:30] <CryptoGoon> found it

[15:30] <@VeryVeriViral> Thx !

[15:31] <bananacat> i saw an address that started with veritas, thought that was awesome

[15:31] <@VeryVeriViral> I haven't slept yet. lol

[15:31] <@VeryVeriViral> bananacat: Really?

[15:31] <@VeryVeriViral> The chances of that are astronomical.

[15:32] <bananacat> yea, it was amazing. dont remember where i saw it though

[15:32] <jl777> ok back, half hour to go before I will be occupied for a bit

[15:32] <jl777> anyway notice how much more gets done?

[15:33] <jl777> i dont have all the answers and I make mistakes

[15:33] <jl777> where was i?

[15:33] <jl777> yes, the plan

[15:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Haha

[15:33] <jl777> ok so i will work with the VRC devs for some baseline things

[15:33] <jl777> MGW support so this adds a new exchange for VRC

[15:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Awesome.

[15:34] <jl777> it also allows InstantDEX usage

[15:34] <jl777> then the reskinned GUI next month

[15:34] <jl777> just change the NXT graphics to VRC graphics

[15:34] <@effects> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8699925#msg8699925

[15:34] <jl777> NXT doesnt care that the users knows its NXT

[15:34] <jl777> think of it like the Intel Inside campaign

[15:34] <jl777> remember that ?

[15:35] <jl777> DEll, Apple, IBM, they all made little stickers that said Intel Inside

[15:35] <@VeryVeriViral> I think we were going to implement an Advanced tab - if that's okay with you.

[15:35] <@effects> Just so everyone knows VeriCoin and the protocol will not be changed, these are additions

[15:35] <jl777> most users probably didnt even notice

[15:35] <jl777> all you need is a button added to the QT

[15:35] <jl777> totally optional

[15:35] <@VeryVeriViral> K

[15:35] <jl777> if the user does not want to "Enter SuperNET"

[15:35] <jl777> they dont click the button

[15:35] <jl777> if they do, it launches the VRC HTML GUI

[15:36] <@VeryVeriViral> Super important to us and our brand. Appreciate that jl777 .

[15:36] <jl777> you can remove whatever features you dont want

[15:36] <jl777> maybe at first it is just the NXT Asset Exchange with the mgwVRC enabled

[15:36] <jl777> so this is putting the exchange for VRC inside the VRC QT

[15:36] <jl777> not actually inside cuz they had to click a button and go through install the first time

[15:36] <jl777> but after a while the user is not noticing

[15:37] <jl777> they want to trade, they Enter SuperNET and trade

[15:37] <jl777> now we can add the InstantDEX

[15:37] <jl777> this allows asset to asset trading

[15:37] <jl777> what this means is that you can price ALL NXT assets in terms of VRC!

[15:37] <@VeryVeriViral> You're a crazy dude but you may be a genius...

[15:37] <jl777> so it is like going to a country (before EURO)

[15:38] <jl777> each country has its own currency

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[15:38] <jl777> so eggs cost different

[15:38] <jl777> milk

[15:38] <@VeryVeriViral> Gotcha.

[15:38] <jl777> all denominated in the local currency, VRC

[15:38] <noashh> I'd call it visionary, not crazy

[15:38] <jl777> Now after SuperNET, there will be a LOT more assets

[15:38] <jl777> all these assets are priced in VRC inside the VRC GUI

[15:39] <jl777> the mass market is thinking "wow! that VRC has so much cool stuff"

[15:39] <@VeryVeriViral> This is for the crazy ones - Steve Jobs

[15:39] <Guest18609>

[15:39] <jl777> just like when Dell made the computer and they used Windows + Intel CPU, user doesnt care, its a Dell, its an Apple

[15:39] <Reavon> can somebody sum it all up for me pls this is jungle here

[15:39] <@VeryVeriViral> Right.

[15:40] <jl777> so as the crypto market grows smaller and smaller percentage will even know about the "CPU" "operating system"

[15:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Hey Reavon - It's a long story.

[15:40] <jl777> usrers care about applications

[15:40] <@VeryVeriViral> We'll explain later.

[15:40] <jl777> so, the community can think of what these VRC apps are

[15:40] <jl777> there is no need and not time to reinvent the wheel

[15:40] <jl777> why bother?

[15:40] <jl777> if NXT already has Asset Exchange, Marketplace, Voting system, etc

[15:41] <Guest18609> veryveriviral u think u can sum this up on the bct after ?

[15:41] <jl777> VRC picks the best ideas from its community for apps, and I will of course offer my advices on how best to implement

[15:41] <jl777> then the VRC devs are doing this transformation of VRC from 1.0 to 2.0 crypto over next three months

[15:42] <jl777> then there are all the things you can do with the SuperNET API

[15:42] <jl777> Teleporting VRC to someone who doesnt even run the VRC QT!

[15:42] <jl777> crazy stuff

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[15:42] <jl777> so, there are all sorts of possible things and I think we can make a road map of monthly milestones

[15:43] <jl777> once the community is working together for making the best monthly milestone (it is more than just tech)

[15:43] <jl777> then this is the launch pad for my big feature

[15:43] <jl777> I think the VRC devs as spokesmen makes them sort of the interface to the fiat world

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[15:44] <jl777> so this gives the rationale to the having the decentralized fiat equiv

[15:44] <jl777> make VRC the crypto for fiat

[15:44] <jl777> if you have fiat and you want crypto, VRC is the one to use

[15:44] <jl777> something like that

[15:44] <jl777> so this leverages the public persona

[15:45] <jl777> and will require spending a lot of time with media, trade shows, etc.

[15:45] <jl777> now all the coins in the SuperNET are getting this selection of stuff they can do

[15:45] <+onsightit> murn'n. what's up?

[15:45] <jl777> We make a FIAT tab and this is where all the VRC stuff is

[15:45] <jl777> so, i think this is a decent plan

[15:45] <jl777> should not be so hard to establish this position

[15:46] <jl777> I dont know of any coin that is making this position

[15:46] <@effects> agreed

[15:46] <Guest18609> agreed

[15:46] <jl777> this means VRC will dominate the fiat <-> crypto space

[15:46] <jl777> i think it will do 5x when the market realizes this

[15:46] <+onsightit> who are the 100,000+ users? where does tha number come from?

[15:46] <Guest18609> which was the goal this plays in perfectly

[15:46] <jl777> and 10x when it is delivered

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[15:47] <jl777> and when my decentralized fiat pegged stuff arrives, then more than 10x is likely

[15:47] <jl777> look at btsx

[15:47] <jl777> 60 mil for holographic peg

[15:47] <jl777> it is there just because

[15:47] <jl777> well it is there because they are using IPO funds to prop it up whenever it drops too much

[15:47] <jl777> but i think it got a bit too big

[15:47] <jl777> maybe not

[15:47] <jl777> but it is big time bomb

[15:48] <jl777> not sure how long it will last

[15:48] <jl777> so, even if it is still doing OK, this is fine

[15:48] <jl777> it is a 60 mil marketcap we can use

[15:48] <jl777> so this is my target marketcap for VRC in 1 year

[15:48] <jl777> to replace btsx

[15:49] <jl777> now are you glad you got rid of what;s his name?

[15:49] <deceit-> wizfarm?

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[15:49] <jl777> are there estimates of how large VRC active peoples is?

[15:50] <jl777> VRC up 50%, so that is $500K marketcap gain since word leaked we are talking

[15:50] <Guest18609> extremely glad!

[15:50] <jl777> maybe my 2x was underestimate...

[15:50] <jl777> so i am eccentric

[15:50] <jl777> i am probably crazy

[15:50] <jl777> i am sensitive

[15:50] <jl777> hopefully I am worth tolerating

[15:50] <Guest18609> i think your 5x is under estimated

[15:51] <Guest18609> it will do better than that imo

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[15:51] <Guest18609> but i like your safe projections

[15:51] <jl777> well with SuperNET cross marketing and revenue share and more resources, yes, i just dont want to pump

[15:51] <jl777> i build value

[15:51] <jl777> a fully 2.0 crypto with a decentralized fiat peg and the best fiat interface tech in all of crypto

[15:51] <Dick_Green> james you should start a podcast

[15:52] <jl777> this is worth ~$50 mil

[15:52] <jl777> dick_g I protect my voiceprint

[15:52] <jl777> anyway I have to go now, IPO starting in a few minutes

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[15:53] <+BlkHandAshdrake> VRC has $1.7m MKT Cap right now, if this shit triples then we are basck in business, top 10 market cap and then people will look more seriously at it

[15:53] <tryphe> good to hear you explain jl777, sounds very good =D

[15:53] <Guest18609> alright thanks a lot for the explanations!

[15:53] <+onsightit> effects: who owns that escrow address?

[15:53] <jl777> so I hope you understand the basic fiat positioning, the required public stuff

[15:53] <Dick_Green> vrc=cash

[15:53] <jl777> this will also make the VRC devs crypto personalities

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[15:53] <@effects> onsightit: I do

[15:53] <jl777> dick_g not exactly cash is anon

[15:53] <Guest18609> which their perfect for

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[15:53] <+onsightit> thanks

[15:53] <jl777> so VRC is fiat following all the fiat rules

[15:54] <jl777> it is the light vs the dark of crypto

[15:54] <+unek> 1066 messages in 45 minutes what happened there

[15:54] <Dick_Green> i see bring me to the light

[15:54] <jl777> ok, i will check in on the thread, but I have good feeling. I wont say anything public till it looks like we are making the goal

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[15:55] <jl777> but now that this is a decent plan with nice upside i dont think mich problem

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[15:55] <jl777> if the VRC still does not want this, then that's ok, but sad

[15:55] <@effects> What you said is very compatible with VRC jl777

[15:55] <jl777> effects, this is what I do

[15:55] <noashh> 5 minutes to go btw

[15:55] <jl777> I just been so busy not time to find more details of skill sets

[15:55] <jl777> so the rough plan is just first draft

[15:56] <astranor> hey guys spread the word about escrow fund and consider small donations or big ones!

[15:56] <jl777> when I take on a project I am continously improving

[15:56] <jl777> ok, gotta go. it has been a pleasure as soon as the troll was gone. I hope you can enforce a no troll zone so when i come back i wont want to leave

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[15:56] <Guest18609> can't thank you enough the plan sounds genius

[15:56] <noashh> Just make sure you send your VRC to the right address and not to some scammer posting his own

[15:57] <Guest18609> very safe deal

[15:57] <techbytes> time to go get some token...

[15:57] <Guest18609> very happy

[15:57] <+onsightit> question about investing in dev4: Are the people investing going to get a return proportional to their investment? And what is the mechanism for that return?

[15:57] <xk002> why vericoin to the moon?

[15:57] <tryphe> i went all in on vrc yesterday, glad i did that

[15:58] <Guest18609> check the bct it explains

[15:58] <xk002> the bct?

[15:58] <xk002> oh

[15:58] <Guest18609> we need to raise vrc to complete the deal

[15:58] <xk002> have link?

[15:58] <@effects> thanks jl777, appreciate the details much

[15:58] <+onsightit> effects: question about investing in dev4: Are the people investing going to get a return proportional to their investment? And what is the mechanism for that return?

[15:58] <@VeryVeriViral> onsightit: We can probably go over all the details in BC. If it turns out like jl777 promises... 5X to 10X investment.

[15:59] <+onsightit> need to discuss before I invest

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[15:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Someone please copy this entire chat - all the messages etc. Really.

[16:00] <+BlkHandAshdrake> 5X investment = win

[16:00] <xk002> should i invest now?

[16:00] <xk002> 0.1 btc is good to invest now?

[16:00] <+BlkHandAshdrake> 10X investment = Yacht win

[16:00] <Guest18609> quick sum up... dev4 is james/jl777 from btcd and the creator of the supernet


[16:01] <xk002> is the coin going to rise some more? i have .1 btc to invest

[warr1979]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

[VeryVeriViral]

Well done Setup! Well done!

Jay Jay
@VeryVeriViral

[ScottAllyn]

Being an "ass" in your viewpoint, because I wasn't cheering the deal, like you wanted. Am I right?

Nope. I'm actually very skeptical of the whole thing but if people want to hear what the guy has to say, they have a right to do so without someone insulting them the whole time.

[onsightit]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

[ereborltc]

wow thanx for posting the irc chat!.....

lets stop arguing please and focus on the task at hand... this is huge for us right now and were all safe with escrow and the deal is mint

[ereborltc]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

[buy4crypto]

IRC Chat Log

[ij777 escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6  || details of escrow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8699925#msg8699925]


[13:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'll call Doug right now.

[13:55] <buy4crypto> so make me proud, I want to be rich

[13:56] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> without doing nothing buy4crypto :p

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[13:56] <@VeryVeriViral> He's gonna be pissed I'm waking him up. smh You better be solid man. Really.

[13:56] <jl777> for those know my work, you know what my unique tech is worth

[13:56] <Guest18609> i do

[13:57] <Guest18609> please jl777 I'm telling you were getting this done

[13:57] <BagHolder> Hey Very, we already know James is solid

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You've been cheerleading him this whole time. How much VRC are you putting in?

[13:57] <Guest18609> there will be 500k raised within 24hrs

[13:57] <BagHolder> and pnosk already knows

[13:57] <BagHolder> we just need a lead

[13:57] <Guest18609> ill put in 3k

[13:57] <Guest18609> thats a lot for me

[13:57] <@VeryVeriViral> 3k?

[13:58] <jl777> now be clear that inclusion into SuperNET core wont be until there is some new tech

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Alright.

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> When is that new tech?

[13:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Estimate?

[13:58] <jl777> and that this deal is with me personally, the tech I can estimate ~6mo to alpha/beta

[13:58] <Guest18609> the price will rise just on the fact that we close this deal

[13:59] <jl777> now I think there will be good chance for CORE inclusion if I put in a good word

[13:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: It's not about the short term bro.

[13:59] <Guest18609> we know this

[13:59] <buy4crypto> Wow, wow wow, Its hard to believe what I am seeing in here, but I guess desperation leads to many things.

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How many coins have signed on so far ?

[14:00] <BagHolder> buy4, what's your problem?  will you please stay your point factually, please?

[14:00] <jl777> guest18609 if I tell my investors that VRC is long term buy and I will add tech to it next year, well that is what happened to BBR

[14:00] <Guest18609> seriously guys i don't want to sound like a cheerleader

[14:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:00] <Guest18609> look at vrc now has anyone noticed its at 13k

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[14:00] <jl777> you have to realize hundreds of people that invested in my projects have made close to 10 million USD in last 4 months

[14:00] <Guest18609> this is the jl777 effect

[14:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude that's due to MACD

[14:00] <Guest18609> the rest is long term an will flourish

[14:01] <Guest18609> no its not lol

[14:01] <jl777> veryvery, if I announce to my list, the price will double in hours

[14:01] <Guest18609> less than hrs

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay Guest18609  just shhhhh. For like second.

[14:01] <jl777> this is why i insisted on secrecy

[14:01] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay I'll call Doug now.

[14:01] <jl777> i do not want to cause a pump for something that wont happen

[14:01] <BagHolder> James, I just want to be clear right now.  Our contributions to VRC mean that we're a committed community.  That's why you're a little flexible with price?

[14:02] <jl777> the big problem with VRC is that it could not handle the mintpal incident

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> I wish you could do 300k - then 600k on the back end.

[14:02] <jl777> now few communities would have been able to

[14:02] <jl777> so nothing againt anyone

[14:02] <jl777> not personal

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: See that...

[14:02] <buy4crypto> jl777, it handled it very well.

[14:02] <jl777> big loss of money makes people cranky

[14:02] <Guest18609> ya it was tough

[14:02] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude... we're about to overcome ALL of that.

[14:02] <buy4crypto> Big heads and ego's, you need to come back to earth jl777

[14:03] <Guest18609> yes and this can be the perfect stepping stool

[14:03] <buy4crypto> get your name off every code you make "im a simple C+ programmer"

[14:03] <jl777> buy4crypto, just read the last 50 pages of thread, it is disaster about the worst atmosphere i have seen

[14:03] <buy4crypto> blah blah, egomaniac, what a joke.

[14:03] <Guest18609> super net takes nothing away from vrc it just adds

[14:03] <jl777> i had to intervene in the XMR BBR fued

[14:03] <buy4crypto> you all enjoy your circle jerk,. im out

[14:03] <jl777> it was killing both the coins

[14:03] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> bb

[14:03] <jl777> i am a fixer of broken coins

[14:03] <jl777> i am glad he is gone

[14:03] <Guest18609> pls don't listen to buy4crytpo

[14:03] <jl777> plz get rid of all those guys

[14:03] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: VeriCoin isn't broken.

[14:04] <jl777> veryvery ok you dont need me, bye

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> This is not how you broker a deal James.

[14:04] <Guest18609> stop

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay fine. Peace.

[14:04] <Guest18609> man

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[14:04] <Guest18609> don't listen to veriviral

[14:04] <@VeryVeriViral> I have no time for FUD.

[14:04] <Dick_Green> lets just take a moment

[14:04] <Guest18609> the community wants this and has spoken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> obv vrc isnt broken

[14:05] <Dick_Green> and james wasnt saying that

[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

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[14:05] <Guest18609> stop what

[14:05] <Dick_Green> this is a win win for the both

[14:05] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> +m

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[14:05] <@VeryVeriViral> Just stop. In general.

[14:05] <Guest18609> ITS A WIN WIN

[14:05] <Guest18609> NO RISK

[14:06] <+souljah1h-Lucky8> dude.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Guest18609, you have a lot to learn. The minute you accept this deal you have basically become BBR, and every other "broken" coin that guy said he'll repair.

[14:06] <buy4crypto> I forgot, was vericoin unique, and special? or just another alt under some egomaniacs umbrella? Think about it before you all chear so blindly

[14:06] <Dick_Green> crypto ur talking out of ur ass

[14:06] <Guest18609> said hell repair... do u not watch the market

[14:06] <Guest18609> is btcd not at 1.4million

[14:06] <buy4crypto> Dick, you have no clue how real business works, or how to get ahead, sure, take the easy way out, most of you want to.

[14:06] <Guest18609> growing

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> Grow Vericoin for the future, not for a quick pump.

[14:07] <BagHolder> I need to go, I'll be back in a bit.  I need a word from effects pnosk and socal and then I think we're good

[14:07] <@VeryVeriViral> All I'm saying is this... VeriCoin isn't "broken" and we don't need "charity". If someone wants to do business... let's do it. But DON'T belittle our coin, company or brand.

[14:07] <MichelausGer> so one of our devs has to put the facts together, install escrow and we see what will happen

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[14:07] <buy4crypto> jl777 is NOT what you all need, but its what will make the next 1-2 days "exciting" worth a trade? stop. Work on longterm value

[14:07] <Dick_Green> crypto have u read anything about supernet

[14:07] <Guest18609> ESCROW FOR 1 YEAR

[14:07] <buy4crypto> I own SuperNetNews.com

[14:08] <buy4crypto> so yeah, I am up on it.

[14:08] <Guest18609> thats not a quick pump

[14:08] <@VeryVeriViral> lol

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I know all about superNet, and wht VeriCoin should be fighting to stay away, but...

[14:08] <buy4crypto> Some don't see the big picture unfortunately.

[14:08] <buy4crypto> I am glad @VeriVeriViral has his senses about him.

[14:08] <Guest18609> oh my

[14:09] <Guest18609> smh

[14:09] <Dick_Green> why is supernet so bad

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[14:09] <Dick_Green> how would it negatively effect vrc

[14:09] <Guest18609> it cannot

[14:09] <Guest18609> we have ZERO risk

[14:09] <Dick_Green> i wana hear from crypto

[14:09] <buy4crypto> This coin isn't broken, it needs support and guidance, not some egomaniac who puts his name on all coding he does in the supernet library

[14:09] <Guest18609> this is crazy

[14:09] <@VeryVeriViral> I have nothing against jl777 . I just don't like his approach. He can do better than that.

[14:09] <buy4crypto> Well, Dick, you know BBR is in the umbrella correct?

[14:09] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:10] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:10] <buy4crypto> BBR would be as valuable to the supernet team, / world as VRC, and any other "broken" coin that decides to be in the supernet

[14:10] <Guest18609> we need to stop playing games we cannot get fucked!

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[14:10] <buy4crypto> Basiclly, by his wording, you say "yes we are broken, come save us jl777"

[14:10] <Guest18609> its in escrow

[14:10] <Guest18609> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> no

[14:10] <Dick_Green> lol

[14:11] <Phaeton> guys - just see if we get the money together- put it in escrow - and talk about the deal later

[14:11] <Dick_Green> adding ur coin to the supernet would give it value

[14:11] <buy4crypto> Listen up. Dick, respond to me okay, what do you think of that

[14:11] <Guest18609> were saying its a genius project and wed be retarded to not be part of it

[14:11] <buy4crypto> do you like the term "broken crypto" and Vericoin together?

[14:11] <Dick_Green> i think ur wrong

[14:11] <buy4crypto> sounds valuable?

[14:11] <buy4crypto> like a mainstream currency?

[14:11] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: We aren't "fucked" - with or without SuperNET. That's my point.

[14:11] <buy4crypto> gimme a fucking break and open up your eyes kids.

[14:11] <Guest18609> yes and i believe that also

[14:11] <Dick_Green> ur main point is that james is an egomaniac so supernet is bad and all coins who join it are broken

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[14:12] <Guest18609> give u a break which what

[14:12] <Guest18609> we have no risk!!

[14:12] <buy4crypto> he tells you he can fix a broken currency... right there I would be insulted.

[14:12] <Guest18609> what is so difficult to understand

[14:12] <Dick_Green> no

[14:12] <Phaeton> OK - can´t take this dashing anymore - by - for 2 hours

[14:12] <buy4crypto> This isn't a broken currency if you people would work for something, instead of expect someone else to do everything for you.

[14:12] <Dick_Green> hes not comming here to fix our broken currency

[14:12] <Dick_Green> he is comming here to see how the community feels about supernet

[14:12] <Guest18609> omg u don't get it

[14:12] <Guest18609> hes not fixing it

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> I think jl777 is the real deal. However I don't like how he's talking about "saving" us. Or getting so sensitive and saying "Okay bye" etc.

[14:13] <Guest18609> get over your ego for 24 hrs plz

[14:13] <buy4crypto> why did he call this broken then ?

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> ^

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[14:13] <Guest18609> he is if you follow his work you would know this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> hes a  Negotiator

[14:13] <Guest18609> because vericoin is kinda broken right now don't u see this

[14:13] <Dick_Green> if i was james i would have a supermassive ego

[14:13] <Guest18609> it wasn't an insult

[14:13] <@VeryVeriViral> Well he can call me or Skype me ANYTIME and really negotiate.

[14:13] <buy4crypto> 18609, why did he call this broken? and wouldn't that imply he can fix them? like he said he can, thats what he does. He saves alt coins, LOL

[14:13] <Guest18609> it was truth

[14:14] <Guest18609> doesn't mean were not gonna fix it

[14:14] <Guest18609> but its the present situation

[14:14] <buy4crypto> Its broken because of you people who want these "juggernaut" deals, and deals with nutballs like jl777

[14:14] <Guest18609> thread is a disaster to say the least

[14:14] <Guest18609> your bashing from an opinion based on nothing

[14:15] <@VeryVeriViral> BCT is a disaster. The new forums are pristine!

[14:15] <Guest18609> all he's done is make coins skyrocket and innovate new ideas

[14:15] <buy4crypto> People can be working on real progress, and talking about real, solid things to move the needle, yet we waste energy on these "saviors" who make everybody rich.. yeah right.

[14:15] <buy4crypto> 18609, skyrocket? for how long

[14:15] <Dick_Green> crypto just stop typing

[14:15] <Guest18609> no one goes on new forums don't u get that

[14:15] <buy4crypto> because all I see is BITCOIN, and a buncha shit alts lately

[14:15] <Dick_Green> uve missed the point like 10 times already

[14:15] <Guest18609> people will always go to bct

[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609:  the new forums haven't launched yet. Get that?

[14:16] <Guest18609> veritalk

[14:16] <Guest18609> there was  one

[14:16] <Guest18609> it didn't work

[14:16] <Guest18609> .....

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[14:16] <@VeryVeriViral> www.vericoinforums.com

[14:16] <Guest18609> you must not trade much verivery

[14:16] <buy4crypto> the guy sold his vericoin, that is why that didn't work

[14:16] <buy4crypto> he was in it to make a buck, like 99.9% of you

[14:16] <MichelausGer> again, what can we lose if we do this deal?

[14:16] <jl777> ok i am back, 104 minutes left

[14:17] <buy4crypto> after he sold out, he tried to sell the forum.

[14:17] <Guest18609> nothing we can't lose anything

[14:17] <jl777> buy4crypto, how much VRC do you have?

[14:17] <Guest18609> and seems to me pride is stopping a few ppl from thinking clearly

[14:17] <Guest18609> we can't lose

[14:17] <Guest18609> escrow!!

[14:17] <buy4crypto> jl777, I think its best for you to ignore me, you are a very sensative women... or maybe a man.

[14:17] <Guest18609> jl777 GETS ZERO

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[14:18] <jl777> buy4crypto, plz answer at least range

[14:18] <Guest18609> for a year and if he delivers

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: Stop.

[14:18] <@VeryVeriViral> I have 165,000 VRC.

[14:18] <Guest18609> bro u stop

[14:18] <Guest18609> I'm proud of u

[14:18] <jl777> if buy4crypto is a VRC whale then this is difficult for me to work with constant attacks

[14:18] <jl777> creating software is very hard to do

[14:18] <Guest18609> hes not lol

[14:18] <buy4crypto> I have 0 vrc dude,. hows that?

[14:19] <jl777> all conditions must be right

[14:19] <jl777> buy4crypto if that is the case, plz leave

[14:19] <jl777> this is about getting VRC back to ATH and beyond

[14:19] <@VeryVeriViral> We're going to do that though.

[14:19] <jl777> i cannot create a masterpiece if there is a troll constantly annoying me

[14:20] <Dick_Green> james this is a public irc

[14:20] <jl777> verivery i recognize a good negotiator

[14:20] <jl777> dick g, i understand

[14:20] <jl777> verifvery, so let us agree to not do negotiation games, no time, 100 minutes left

[14:20] <buy4crypto> dude, you have got to be the most sensative person in the world. How are you going to meld so many communities together when you act like a baby man?

[14:20] <jl777> buy4crypto why are you still here?

[14:20] <guest_____> jl777 pls confirm this is you. Golf or putt-putt?

[14:20] <jl777> putt-putt

[14:21] <guest_____> thanks

[14:21] <Dick_Green> good choice

[14:21] <techbytes> lol

[14:21] <Guest18609> lol

[14:21] <techbytes> guest i could have answer that...

[14:21] <buy4crypto> jl777 is a fan of the notebook

[14:21] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I'm not negotiating. I'm telling you STRAIGHT UP... VeriCoin is good right now. If you can help... GREAT... let's do business.

[14:21] <guest_____> true

[14:21] <buy4crypto> love stories, hearts, fluffy bunnies

[14:21] <Guest18609> of course he can help

[14:21] <Guest18609> more than u understand

[14:22] <jl777> veryvery if you think VRC is having no issues, then this is not reality

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[14:22] <Guest18609> seriously

[14:22] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am here because I count on you making me rich, just not by trashing another coin I own

[14:22] <jl777> mintpal rollback was a near fatal blow

[14:22] <jl777> buy4crypto you have no coins so no voice

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[14:22] <jl777> or you can admit you are whale

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[14:22] <jl777> then we listen

[14:22] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I KNOW we're good because... I KNOW... we're good.

[14:22] <Dick_Green> im a tuna

[14:23] <@VeryVeriViral> I know whales that eat other whales...

[14:23] <jl777> verivery being good is nice, BBR was good, but it was in a death spiral 1/40'th of xmr

[14:23] <Dick_Green> very were u able to get in touch with dug

[14:23] <jl777> good tech is not enough when there are 300 coins

[14:23] <buy4crypto> jl777 VeriCoin will be biger than ur group of misfit clones that you will fail to provide any value to jl777, that is the brutal reality. You make up this happy fun land make believe world and try to sell it to the ignorant shareholders of "broken" coins.

[14:23] <buy4crypto> what a honorable butterfly.

[14:23] <Guest18609> don't listen to him

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Dick_Green: I texted him but no reply.

[14:24] <jl777> ok, i dont have time to be debating people like buy4crypto, is there a way to put him on ignore

[14:24] <@VeryVeriViral> Don't know if I should call him for this.

[14:24] <jl777> i am not so familiar with irc

[14:24] <Guest18609> i dont tink so

[14:24] <Dick_Green> i think it would be okay

[14:24] <Dick_Green> its only 8:30

[14:24] <thph> somebody with an @ can ban here

[14:24] <jl777> then can you guys convince him to stop his trolling

[14:25] <Guest18609> veryveri can

[14:25] <Dick_Green> theres no way of that james

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is the interenet

[14:25] <Dick_Green> common

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> How many people in here want me to call Doug? Let your voice be known.

[14:25] <Dick_Green> me

[14:25] <Guest18609> me

[14:25] <buy4crypto> I am sorry, is there no room for an opposite opinion? Usually when people get upset about that its because they are trying to work an angle on ya.

[14:25] <thph> please call him

[14:25] <Guest18609> we needhim here

[14:25] <MichelausGer> please call him up it's urgent

[14:25] <Dick_Green> this is important i dont think he would mind

[14:25] <jl777> my ipo is starting soon and i dont want to waste it explaining that 1+1 = 2

[14:25] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I hear ya bro. Just let's hear him out. Let's keep it cool for a little.

[14:26] <@VeryVeriViral> K calling him.

[14:26] <jl777> i see a lot of handles, are they all actually here?

[14:26] <techbytes> a lot are here idling for news and updates

[14:27] <Shinraven> 8 am east coast...hello gentlemen, you have been busy. James thank you for sharing your ideas

[14:27] <ScottAllyn> jl777: many idle here and check the chat periodically throughout the day. Staying in here even when they're not active allows them to scroll back up thru the chat log to catch up with what they missed.

[14:27] <buy4crypto> IRC is common sense. not very hard, a great way to keep up with teams, and investors. pretty suprising, such a great simple C+ programmer should be able to figure out!

[14:28] <Guest18609> wow it'll all be in escrwo

[14:28] <jl777> buy3crypto thanks for that, it really helps doesnt it? do you want to help VRC or not

[14:28] <Guest18609> nothing to lose whatsoever

[14:28] <Dick_Green> lol crypto u so mad

[14:28] <Guest18609> ya and rude

[14:29] <buy4crypto> I am helping VRC, I don't see any value in being another "broken" crypto in your bag.

[14:29] <jl777> well buy4?

[14:29] <Guest18609> pls ignore him james

[14:29] <jl777> buy4 is NXT broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or bbr

[14:29] <jl777> is BTCD broken?

[14:29] <Guest18609> or btcd

[14:29] <Guest18609>

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Okay

[14:29] <jl777> BBR was technically not broken

[14:29] <buy4crypto> Your vocal few, that want instant profits will cheer anythign, anyone says to make them a buck, I see no longterm value in your deal for VRC. You make out very well though.

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Talked to Doug.

[14:29] <Guest18609> like seriously this is what vericoin has been dealing with

[14:29] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone CHILL.

[14:29] <jl777> but it was 1/40 xmr until last week when i fixed it, now it is 1/4

[14:30] <Guest18609> its not instant!!

[14:30] <techbytes> buy4crypto, what have you done for me lately... now stfu and chill.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> He'll be here in 5 minutes. He's putting his son in the car.

[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if VRC goes 5x, how is there no long term value?

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[14:30] <jl777> buy4 if 10x how is there no value?

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Doug will be here in 5 minutes.

[14:30] <jl777> is that the extent of your math abilities?

[14:30] <buy4crypto> jl777 ask the people who bought at 50-58k how that will help them. That was the last pump and dump.

[14:30] <@VeryVeriViral> Everyone relax.

[14:31] <buy4crypto> this might be another pump and dump, crypto loves ponzis

[14:31] <buy4crypto> where I stand, is I want to create value that LASTS.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Just relax homie. Please. Let's cool down.

[14:31] <jl777> buy4 that is what I do, buy, hodl, build value

[14:31] <buy4crypto> longterm value, crazy huh? I feel like actually helping people longterm, not playing musical chairs and leaving x amount of people to suffer, while early manipulators profit.

[14:31] <ScottAllyn> throwing insults back n' forth isn't doing anybody any good.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with you. I really do.

[14:31] <@VeryVeriViral> But let's relax.

[14:31] <Dick_Green> james do u always spell hold as hodl

[14:32] <jl777> so if these loud voices are thinking i am manipulator, then there is no hope

[14:32] <ScottAllyn> Dick_Green: there's a long history there.

[14:32] <jl777> buy4 do you know anything about me?

[14:32] <techbytes> jl777, there is only one loud voice here... and he doesn't speak for the community.

[14:32] <buy4crypto> you are a simple C+ programmer that puts your name on everything

[14:32] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Can you Pls relax as well?

[14:33] <comcry> Nice VRC move

[14:33] <jl777> buy4 my name is actually not jl777

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Both of you... chill.

[14:33] <buy4crypto> but I just know what I read on supernet news. I know more of the deal you are proposing than you, and its scary to be lumped into a basket of unproven, "broken" coins

[14:33] <@VeryVeriViral> Calm it all down fellas.

[14:33] <MichelausGer> @buy4 are you copying barabbas?

[14:33] <jl777> where do you get that SuperNET core coins are broken? only the best coins get into the core

[14:33] <guest_____> I have benefited greatly from James' investments...take the deal, all win. Not that difficult.

[14:34] <buy4crypto> If they where able to be standalone coins, they would.

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: What do you think of ICO?

[14:34] <jl777> verivery in what way?

[14:34] <Shinraven> Buy4crypto cool it. unreal

[14:34] <buy4crypto> Its a new, noble approach, have a guy with a big ego, tell 10x communities he will bring them all together? You can't even bring the VRC community together, you think bringing this coin into the fold will bring value to who, how?

[14:34] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Is it worthy of SuperNET?

[14:34] <jl777> is what worthy?

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> ICO

[14:35] <jl777> cant parse what you are saying, is ICO worthy of SuperNET? please rephrase

[14:35] <buy4crypto> @Shinraven so, The only person here thinking rationally, again, since I dont trade coins for profit.... is yelled at for looking longterm, over a quick pump and dump

[14:35] <@VeryVeriViral> Which coins are worthy? In your opinion of SuperNET?

[14:35] <buy4crypto> At least I know who has longterm value in mind, and who the people are with short term aspirations to profit bigtime and dump.

[14:36] <jl777> very few

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> Like 265?

[14:36] <jl777> dozens are applying, I have a team of 4 prescreening

[14:36] <jl777> i think maybe half a dozen to a dozen in the core

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> NXT is on right?

[14:36] <jl777> yes NXT gets the 2.0 crypto featyres

[14:36] <@VeryVeriViral> BitCoinDark is on right?

[14:37] <jl777> BTCD gets the Teleport, InstantDEX and Privatebet

[14:37] <jl777> BBR adds cryptonote

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> Oh I see.

[14:37] <@VeryVeriViral> So you're giving each coin different... applications/features?

[14:37] <jl777> so a coin has to have something unique and valuable to all the other coins. have no clue why buy4 keeps sayung broken coins

[14:37] <buy4crypto> Is a reason all these coins didn't join other teams to begin with, everycoin is unique, and offered something different. Bringing together all these coins, all these communities is like trying to bring together palestinians and isrealies.

[14:38] <jl777> buy4 the enemy is fiat, not each other

[14:38] <buy4crypto> You people who just look at the good in everything are fucking every longterm investor here by your need for instant satisfaction of higher price VRC, shame

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: Let's just hear him out.

[14:38] <@VeryVeriViral> The enemy IS Fiat. I agree.

[14:38] <jl777> guys like buy4 crypto will make it 10 times harder to make progress

[14:38] <jl777> not that VRC needs any progress

[14:38] <jl777> just saying

[14:38] <jl777> is it like brownian motion

[14:39] <buy4crypto> guys like buy4crypto see through bullshit, and aren'tmotivated by short term profits.

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> No One in here is more of a long term investor than I am. Let's hear him out.

[14:39] <jl777> if everything is random there is no progress

[14:39] <jl777> if everybody agrees, even if it isnt the best idea then at least progress is made

[14:39] <jl777> so, with loud voices complaining about everything, nothing happens

[14:39] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I hear ya.

[14:39] <jl777> now if a coin is accepted into the SuperNET core

[14:39] <buy4crypto> jl777 what does vericoin have thats unique?

[14:40] <jl777> then it will get cross marketed to all the other coin's users

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Let's relax. buy4crypto - Pls chill.

[14:40] <jl777> so it must have something unique

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> Ohhhhh

[14:40] <buy4crypto> I will leave you alone after you give me a chance to respond to your response.

[14:40] <jl777> then as SuperNET is generating revenues

[14:40] <Shinraven> @buy4crypto based on what i read so far this sounds long term, for now we should hear everyone out

[14:40] <@VeryVeriViral> I see what's he's implying now.

[14:40] <jl777> currently I am allocating 20% to go to the coin communities

[14:40] <buy4crypto> This is a very important thing to realize, what is VRC adding to you jl77&?

[14:40] <jl777> buy4 that is part of this deal

[14:40] <buy4crypto> answer me!

[14:41] <jl777> buy4 I will personally code some uniqye features

[14:41] <buy4crypto> what is the unique thing vericoin adds to your platform?

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> I'm beginning to understand this a little better.

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[14:41] <jl777> i was thinking a decentralized USD pegged crypto

[14:41] <jl777> btsx is a holographic peg and will collapse sometime

[14:41] <buy4crypto> so, you are going to make a unique feature for VRC? lol

[14:41] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: I wish you weren't Anon because we could do REALLY good biz.

[14:41] <buy4crypto> unique in the open source world is trully funny.

[14:41] <jl777> not sure how long as the btsx is propping up the price

[14:42] <jl777> so when it starts dropping to where the forced liquidations kick in, nothing will stop the collapse

[14:42] <jl777> but there is clearly demand for fiat pegged crypto

[14:42] <@VeryVeriViral> Remember effects is on his way here. So let's be civil.

[14:43] <jl777> so I think if VRC has this decentralized fiat pegged scheduled for next year

[14:43] <buy4crypto> so, jl777, VeriCoin offers nothing unique to your platform, yet you are here pushing a short time frame to raise money for you?

[14:43] <@VeryVeriViral> The only thing is the 1.3 million. It's SO much dude.

[14:43] <buy4crypto> Anyone else see any trouble here?

[14:43] <jl777> then that is the point to march toward

[14:43] <jl777> buy4 i am not getting anything without success

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You get plenty without success

[14:43] <Guest18609> he's getting nothing!!

[14:43] <jl777> how?

[14:43] <Guest18609> escrow

[14:43] <buy4crypto> You can sell all the coins you have already on the way up, easy profit

[14:44] <buy4crypto> all the people who see 100k, and nothing else will hold, so you can sell, easy

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 the coins are in escrow

[14:44] <Guest18609> jl777 pls ignore him

[14:44] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: He doesn't get any VRC up front.

[14:44] <buy4crypto> You can't buy them on the open market now?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> duh duh duh... genious!

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 i commit to not sell for 3 yrs

[14:44] <buy4crypto> if you guys dont think he could already owns millions, then I can't help you

[14:44] <jl777> buy4 are you rational?

[14:44] <buy4crypto> he knows all thats going on, he isn't here to help vericoin, he is giving you ultimatums.

[14:45] <buy4crypto> he is here to rip you off, to finish the hack attemps, the DDOS attacks, to scam the rest he can

[14:45] <jl777> i own about 200K VRC

[14:45] <buy4crypto> to finish VRC, unreal you all want to accept this

[14:45] <@effects> hey guys

[14:45] <Guest18609> hey

[14:45] <techbytes> hey

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> It goes into an escrow acct.

[14:45] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I'm going to ask you once more... Pls stop.

[14:45] <jl777> buy4 is convincing me this deal has little chance

[14:45] <jl777> i am not seeing progress

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You guys, okay, here is my deal. I will get the price to 100k I can make C+ codes and promise you the world.

[14:46] <buy4crypto> I wont make any money (I promise) until its at 100k

[14:46] <buy4crypto> You know how much money I would makie before the thing touched 50k??? A LOT

[14:46] <MichelausGer> @buy4crypto: can you do something that vrc rises and i get my losses back? No? then please come down

[14:46] <@effects> buy4crypto:  We will talk about this, give me one second

[14:46] <dallin> buy4 needs to stop

[14:46] <jl777> so if you dont want VRC cross marketed to 100K users, and some of my coding work, i will go

[14:46] <buy4crypto> @Michelausger this is what it has come down to, people just want money back, not a bright future for VRC

[14:46] <@VeryVeriViral> buy4crypto: I agree with some of your points... I do... but you're delivering them wrong. Please relax.

[14:47] <jl777> i cannot work in a hostile environment

[14:47] <jl777> it just makes me upset and I cannot create good code

[14:47] <Guest18609> pls ignore him jl777

[14:47] <@effects> This is simple, I'm going to post a VRC escrow address and the community decides with their VRC

[14:47] <buy4crypto> You guys see how jl777 is training you all?

[14:47] <jl777> effects with loud voices like buy4, it wont work

[14:48] <Guest18609> seriously can u pls ban buy4

[14:48] <buy4crypto> You wont say anythign mean, cause hes "sensative" you can't say anything or he will "leave"

[14:48] <buy4crypto> so unreal people trust this guy.

[14:48] <Dick_Green> james has got me by the hook take all my money

[14:48] <Guest18609> i dont trust u buy4

[14:48] <jl777> buy4 you can single handedly get me to not do this deal

[14:48] <Guest18609> your rude and this is why we have problems

[14:48] <buy4crypto> jl777 I am one person, if you think it wont work because of me, you will have a lot of challenges with 12 communities

[14:48] <@effects> buy4crypto: I will pm you in  a minute to discuss

[14:48] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you've made your point 10x over. You're just rehashing what you've already said that this point.

[14:48] <buy4crypto> you dont seem stable enoguh to handle the job, your a girly man, at best

[14:49] <Guest18609> pls silence buy4!

[14:49] == effects changed the topic of #vericoin to: ij777 escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

[14:49] <AkaBa> hi james

[14:49] <jl777> ok that;s it VRC community you need to decide between me and buy4crypto, i cannot do VRC if he is around

[14:49] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: Please state your entire proposal to effects so he fully understands where we're at. Time wise too. How much and when? Etc.

[14:49] <AkaBa> great work - super commitment

[14:49] <ScottAllyn> buy4crypto: you need to quit that shit now.

[14:49] <buy4crypto> don't decide between me and anything, lol

[14:49] <Guest18609> we all already voiced that were in

[14:49] <jl777> i made no commitment yet

[14:49] <jl777> and i will not commit to work in a hostile environmemnt

[14:49] <Guest18609> were gonna raise the funds 500k within 24hrs

[14:50] <buy4crypto> decide between short term gains, and longterm condemnation of the coin, or choose to ignore this guy and move on and progress the coin the right way

[14:50] <Dick_Green> escrow wallet is up and its only a matter of time

[14:50] <jl777> guest you also need to choose between me and buy4, he is going to make nice codes for you

[14:50] <buy4crypto> jeesus, this guy is good!

[14:50] <techbytes> jl777, buy4 won't be looking over your shoulder while you code so what's the issue?

[14:50] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much do YOU need in Escrow within 24 hours?

[14:50] <jl777> techbytes a coin is not just the code

[14:51] <Guest18609> can u silence BUY4 PLEASE

[14:51] <+poordoge> jl777> tell the vericoin community about yourself, what have you done?

[14:51] <jl777> look at BBR it had better code than XMR and 1/40 th marketcap

[14:51] <@effects> escrow is at topic vote with your VRC

[14:51] <jl777> i do more than just code

[14:51] <jl777> i fix communities

[14:51] <Guest18609> 500k

[14:51] <jl777> you also have to get rid of buy4crypto

[14:51] <buy4crypto> yeah, you dont want any dissodence.

[14:51] <jl777> i will not work for VRC with him constantly undermining me

[14:51] <@effects> we are not going to get rid on non trolls

[14:51] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: How much VRC do you need Right now so that we're "in"?

[14:52] <+poordoge> why is buy4 bothering you so much? this is the internet

[14:52] <+poordoge> why do you need so much vrc?

[14:52] <jl777> right now 1 VRC and remove buy4crypto, he is cancer

[14:52] <Dick_Green> buy4 has been pretty rude he has been saying some pretty hurtful things with no facts to back them up

[14:52] <jl777> poordoge i am just strange that way

[14:52] <@effects> jl777: you do come off not so modest initially

[14:52] <Guest18609> remove him from here he's been nothing but rude and most of the community wants this

[14:53] <jl777> effects false modesty serves nobody

[14:53] <jl777> i have track record

[14:53] <jl777> i speak my mind

[14:53] <@effects> i get that

[14:53] <jl777> a fractured community cannot succeed

[14:53] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ?

[14:53] <jl777> the barrabas

[14:53] <jl777> the buy4crypto

[14:53] <Guest18609> exactly

[14:53] <jl777> the altuk

[14:53] <Dick_Green> james is like the next kobe bryant

[14:53] <jl777> get rid of those three

[14:54] <jl777> then progress is possible

[14:54] <buy4crypto> critical thinkers have to go, we need sheep! I hear ya jl777

[14:54] <buy4crypto> round em up girl!

[14:54] <Guest18609> yes please lord get rid of those 3

[14:54] <techbytes> Dick_Green lol

[14:54] <buy4crypto> yeah, once the 3 critical thinkers are gone, millions of satoshi! easy!

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[14:54] <Guest18609> you guys have been a virus to vericoin the thread is a war zone

[14:54] <jl777> effect i have one hour before the ipo, plz choose between me or buy4crypto

[14:54] <thph> @effects can u please make some rules for this escrow ? timeline ?

[14:54] <Guest18609> 24 hrs to ring in 55k

[14:55] <Guest18609> 500k*

[14:55] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: One hour and what does that mean for us?

[14:55] <buy4crypto> For all you ignorant assholes, ask effects if I have been helpful or hurtful to the coin. I PM them often with ideas and suggestions.

[14:55] <jl777> i changed my terms to 1 VRC but remove buy4crypto

[14:55] <MichelausGer> I transfered 10 % of my amount

[14:55] <buy4crypto> I am not here to hurt you, I am here to protect this coin from failure.

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[14:55] <bananacat> helpful or not theres a right and wrong way to go about things

[14:55] <Guest18609> take the term!!!!!!

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[14:55] <Dick_Green> ya its so worth

[14:55] <Guest18609> 1 vrc and get rid of him

[14:55] <jl777> buy4 yes we are not compatible, it is me or you, let the community decide

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> shit like that is just not necessary

[14:56] <Guest18609> OMG

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> 1 VRC? Just remove buy4crypto Done! lol

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> er...

[14:56] == mode/#vericoin [+o ScottAllyn] by ChanServ

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Haha!

[14:56] <Dick_Green> done deal

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[14:56] <@ScottAllyn> heh

[14:56] <@VeryVeriViral> Joking btw.

[14:56] <Guest18609> DONE

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[14:56] <jl777> is he blocked?

[14:56] <MichelausGer> @doug: can you please post the ecrow adress in the BTC forum?

[14:56] <ScottAllyn> he's getting a timeout

[14:56] <Guest18609> for the love of god block him

[14:57] <jl777> ok, so maybe I can explain the plan for VRC?

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> little too wound up to be able to speak his mind without being an ass

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Guest18609: You're close too bro. Relax.

[14:57] <jl777> now i am many things

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> jl777: please do.

[14:57] <jl777> i am an artist

[14:57] <jl777> an emotional sensitive artist

[14:57] <ScottAllyn> and he already spoke it 10x over... he was just repeating himself and getting worked up.

[14:57] <Guest18609> ok im relaxing

[14:57] <@VeryVeriViral> Wolong?

[14:57] <jl777> the environment needs to be positive for creativity

[14:58] <Dick_Green> i feel you james

[14:58] <jl777> if i come to a thread and it is swear words, gonna fail, blah blah

[14:58] <jl777> i just want to go elsewhere

[14:58] <Guest18609> i agree

[14:58] <jl777> so the first priority for VRC is to change the tone

[14:58] <jl777> the discourse

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> We're doing that actually.

[14:58] <jl777> it has to be ZERO tolerance for anything that is not fact based

[14:58] <@VeryVeriViral> Really soon.

[14:59] <jl777> veryvery then why one hour of buy4 nonsense

[14:59] <jl777> is that anyway to treat a guest?

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Because we're in IRC.

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Dude.

[14:59] <Dick_Green> fuck that move on

[14:59] <Dick_Green> james was about to open up

[14:59] <jl777> verivery i dont understand IRC means we stop being civil people?

[14:59] <techbytes> veryveri, relax...  

[14:59] <@VeryVeriViral> Not everyone is going to agree with you.

[14:59] <jl777> debate is 100% fine

[15:00] <jl777> fact based

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> True.

[15:00] <Guest18609> exactly

[15:00] <jl777> when it goes, you are scum, you are manipulator

[15:00] <jl777> these are not facts

[15:00] <jl777> these are slander

[15:00] <@VeryVeriViral> Agreed.

[15:00] <jl777> this makes me want to go to a happy thread

[15:00] <Guest18609> been trying to say that without sounding like a cheerleade

[15:00] <Guest18609> he's gone now though

[15:00] <Guest18609> were good

[15:01] <jl777> if you are a football player do you want cute girls cheering or ugly guys complaining at you

[15:01] <@effects> jl777: you are dealing with humans remember, lol

[15:01] <@effects> not machines

[15:01] <Dick_Green> or if ur the next kobe

[15:01] <jl777> effects then why am i traeted lke some sammer?

[15:01] <jl777> scammer

[15:01] <jl777> pump and dumper?

[15:01] <jl777> what?

[15:01] <jl777> me?

[15:01] <@effects> because it's the norm in crypto these days

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I still am unable to find a valid reason, or concern that led to my muting by Scott, but you all can decide if I was being "over the line" or if he overstepped his boundaries.

[setup]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

[ereborltc]

it was to keep the deal alive and the entire community wants it.. i get your point but can we move on plz..

[onsightit]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

Bumping through IRC dump...

[ereborltc]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

exactly and hasn't even been announced yet...

escrow looks good lets keep this going remember pnosker is also sending 70k!

[warr1979]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Is there anyway you can do a page on the website of who he is background and what he's bringing to table for the non tech people (Like myself).  I know the core team is in it for the long term I don't mind helping but I do want to know like background what he's bring how it helps the coin even a QA something where its a hangout or a page that answers questions.  Terms of the agreement.  Is he full time exclusive to vericoin things like that.

if your not a little aquatinted with tech it'll be hard for ou to understand
jl777 explains it all in the irc chat that @setup has copied and posted here for everyone to see
hope it helps ,but in a nutshell its basically vericoin joining a network that will/can be extremely beneficial for vericoin

It already is beneficial. More than 50% plus in the last 4 hours. So please community, transfer some VRC (at least 10% of your amount) to the ecrow, that is held by effects. You can only win.

Still like to know more.... Im not saying its not beneficial and won't be most likely it will.  I just like to know what is being brought this is an investment in money but in the future of currency history.  People don't see that aspect in crypto from barter to salt to paper to digital.  So I just want to know details why and Im willing to help

[effectsToCause]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

No you will be selling your VRC at the price listed above at a future date to jl777.  You then will get .0001 BTC worth of VRC back for every VRC you donated to escrow, sent back to the original send address you sent it from.  It's just a future sale of coin that will paid back to you in VRC at market prices then, or if it falls through you will get back whatever you donated back to the address you sent from.

[ereborltc]

ya of course read the huge posts from the irc...setup posted it

[buy4crypto]

ij777 option escrow: VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6

Read his posts for more info regarding his work.  This will not change VeriCoin protocol, it will add features to the coin.  We are behind it if the community is and think his work is impressive.

It's not a donation, it's a sale.  If this goes through you will get  0.00010000 BTC for each VeriCoin, paid in VeriCoin bought at market prices at that time and sent back to sending address.  This is the only way to do it clean.  

If it falls through the amount you sent to escrow will be sent back to the address it was sent from.

Hi Doug,

Can you elaborate on this a bit more?  How is the 0.0001 btc / vrc paid back to the investor with a higher return?

EDIT: Ok, I re-read this a few times.  So you will need to get BTC addresses from the investors too, correct?  And if so, how will you associate the VRC amount invested with the BTC address?

No you will be selling your VRC at the price listed above at a future date to jl777.  You then will get .0001 BTC worth of VRC back for every VRC you donated to escrow, sent back to the original send address you sent it from.  It's just a future sale of coin that will paid back to you in VRC at market prices then, or if it falls through you will get back whatever you donated back to the address you sent from.

And at this point, you must hope everything went well. If you are likely to get your coins back because of a failed deal, DO NOT expect the market to be stepping up in droves to buy them all back for 10k.

A failed cooperation between any parties in this new venture could unravel the whole thing. Look at how divided this community is, now add in 10 more, many of the same ones who have people who constantly attack vericoin and everything it stands for.... This sounds like a good fit? REALLY!