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August 25, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.
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August 25, 2014, 06:42:48 PM
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Take you seriously because?.


Since I had already wasted my time, here it is:





Damn right.

But you and a the rabid, myopic idiots will never see the light.

Instead you are selling this shit to people and expect Jane and Joe Sixpack to even consider it: https://www.vericoin.info/

No need to add a thing...

Being evasive is a dominant trait of yours.  

We are supposed to take you seriously because?.

Calling 3 adult people stooges, and many insults littered throughout your postings.

You once said you would bring something to the table far superior to what others could produce.

You came up with the above image, recieved negative feedback and the history of chat shows the change in attitude.

Are you here because you want to see failure?.

You tasked it upon your self to go ahead with WVD, and you failed spectacularly at it.

So do you bring positives or negatives, simple yes or no will suffice.

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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

"usable", ok? Freaking illiterate loud mouths...
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August 25, 2014, 06:55:38 PM
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

"usable", ok? Freaking illiterate loud mouths...

That's all you got barabbass? Picking out a spelling mistake? You have multiple spelling and grammar errors your posts...don't see me picking those apart.

How about addressing the question?
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August 25, 2014, 07:03:28 PM
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Take you seriously because?.


Since I had already wasted my time, here it is:





Damn right.

But you and a the rabid, myopic idiots will never see the light.

Instead you are selling this shit to people and expect Jane and Joe Sixpack to even consider it: https://www.vericoin.info/

No need to add a thing...

Being evasive is a dominant trait of yours.  

We are supposed to take you seriously because?.

Calling 3 adult people stooges, and many insults littered throughout your postings.

You once said you would bring something to the table far superior to what others could produce.

You came up with the above image, recieved negative feedback and the history of chat shows the change in attitude.

Are you here because you want to see failure?.

You tasked it upon your self to go ahead with WVD, and you failed spectacularly at it.

So do you bring positives or negatives, simple yes or no will suffice.

I didn't "task myself" with anything of that short. I stated that by Monday I would have the CONTENT of what would be the meat of the WVD. When Shinraven put his foot in his mouth -again- pretending that I have backed up and will not deliver, in spite of the fact that I had posted and long before decided that, since no enthusiastic support from the devs, which was a requirement, was forthcoming, I would not participate any longer in project WVD, I decided to post the raw content of the pamphlet that I hadn't even proof-read and that took all of 5 minutes to put together, days before. Get it now?

Still, by leaps and bounds, even in it's rawest form, stands out as a clear message with obvious positive results if even minimally distributed in the real world.
And that's a much, much, much bigger chance of anything remotely close to success -on a quite different scale- that Vericoin will ever have otherwise.

Capisce now?

But you should not bother your little head with so far superior thoughts. You'll be much more at ease down at veritalk chanting hurrahs all the way down to three digits. And then delisting. Which is where Vericoin's train wreck is heading in the current direction.

But just a thought the may eventually sink (though I doubt it), when a train is accelerating and adding as much fuel as possible towards an evident precipice (we are already very, very clearly on the steep way down), what do you think is really positive, a change of direction at the next switch or keep on chanting hurrahs while accelerating on the current direction? No need to answer that by the way.
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

"usable", ok? Freaking illiterate loud mouths...

That's all you got barabbass? Picking out a spelling mistake? You have multiple spelling and grammar errors your posts...don't see me picking those apart.

How about addressing the question?

There are so many I would have to make a list of at last 20 other coins, quite probably many more. It is a very stupid question, I am afraid, for you know the answer yourself only too well.

In separate aspects, you can even put Vericoin in the same league with other coins out there, technically. Quite a few of them. On generic clones, like Vericoin is, I don't even know 10% of what's out there and still I could list several, quite a few indeed, which have much more usability than Vericoin... oh, before you come up with the inevitable, stupid otherwise, follow up, some are: Next, peer, pink, rdd, blackcoin -yep, the scam is ALSO a much superior product than Vericoin-, Naut... I could go on for quite a while, you now. And that, I repeat, is not mentioning the several -more than 3, many more- that are technically so superior to VRC that is like talking kids at school compared with NBA at the very top, get the metaphor?

Oh and it wasn't just a REPEATED spelling mistake, it was proof of ignorance, which is altogether a very different -and way more worrysome- thing.
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August 25, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end of June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.

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August 25, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
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All I see on my screen is this user has been ignored.  People leave them alone they will get bored.  Focus forward!!

Hardcore cheerleaders and cult members like yourself like to ignore the reality. That's why you actually not helping vericoin in moving forward, even you try to focus so hard as your post indicates that.
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.



Thank you for your well thought out response...much respect for your point of view. Why can't this forum be filled with civil and constructive discussion instead of feeding the hate machine know as barabass.

While barabass was spewing his hateful and non constructive rants there was a serious discussion of Dev4 (project Juggernaut) in IRC, a planned meeting will happen between Dev4 and the Vericoin developers soon. To discuss him possibly joining the team...

Pat, Doug and Dave will meet with him to see what he has to offer...he has dropped his intial offer of 1 million VRC to 500k VRC and payment would only be given when certain goals and projects have been completed.

The Vericoin Developers have stated that this is the communities coin and if we want to bring something to the table they are all for it. People have already offered to put forward a large amount of the required VRC to make this project a reality including myself.

Put your money where your mouth is barabass!
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.



Thank you for your well thought out response...much respect for your point of view. Why can't this forum be filled with civil and constructive discussion instead of feeding the hate machine know as barabass.

While barabass was spewing his hateful and non constructive rants there was a serious discussion of Dev4 (project Juggernaut) in IRC, a planned meeting will happen between Dev4 and the Vericoin developers soon. To discuss him possibly joining the team...

Pat, Doug and Dave will meet with him to see what he has to offer...he has dropped his intial offer of 1 million VRC to 500k VRC and payment would only be given when certain goals and projects have been completed.

The Vericoin Developers have stated that this is the communities coin and if we want to bring something to the table they are all for it. People have already offered to put forward a large amount of the required VRC to make this project a reality including myself.

Put your money where your mouth is barabass!

I ALWAYS put my money were my mouth is. ALWAYS. And my efforts too. Which, obviously, don't mean, even remotely, pipe dreams such as this Juggernaut thing is.

While ANYTHING at all is much better -only by comparison, of course- to the absolute nothingness that we currently have, like I have stated many times, VRC does not NEED anything else... but setting a logical, common sense source of action. If AFTER setting that clear path, a new dev is needed -and it is in my belief- I am all for it. But first things first: Get the most of the very few assets you have. THEN and ONLY then, reach out for new heights.

As I have stated before, the whole Juggernaut scheme, as presented, is not just bogus it is thoroughly idiotic and bound to disappoint even the most hopeful of supporters. There's no developer who can guarantee any price increase, I don't know who he is. That's simple reality. So selling the pen that way is simply stupid, sorry. Now, if there's a developer that really "gets it" and is willing to work for free and to be paid for results, I obviously am all for it. But clearly, as it is. No ifs, no buts. I don't believe such an individual exists. I believe Juggernaut is just another loudmouth with not a single chance of moving VRC on inch in the right direction. But I'd very much like to be proven wrong.

And, as stated by others already -and suggested by me in the first place- Nosker and the proposer of Juggernaut ALONE have already pledged 100k VRC. They alone -maybe with the help of Doug and Dave and a couple cheerleaders, can sustain that bet, fronting up the bail for this bet, since there's absolutely no risk involved. They don't need either my money or my support: The guy delivers -and at the current prices, practically anything sensible would easily improve the price by 20-50%, it's that easy-, he gest his half million and the backers get not only much bigger payment in the value of their remaining portfolios but, if they decide to cash in, they can wash out their contributions and book significant profits even with just a small part of their holdings. No need for community donations for this. At all.

So all for Juggernaut on those terms. AND convinced that a reasonable goal, such as 20-40% would be achieved almost instantly from these current levels ... only to be severely sold off and back to square one, mind you. I just saw the film again (take a look at the "Black is Back" title, if you will, in the last few days). So go ahead and do it. It won't be bad at all, it can only be good. And since we all will sell big time into it, we all will benefit.

Now, if I am wrong, and the momentum picks up and this gets back to the 20s, all the more reason to celebrate and for the veritalk "crowd" to shout hurrahs.

The way I see it, it is, as posted before, win-win-win and THEN win situation. Not because it is anything to be optimistic about it in and out of itself but because of the dire situation we are locked into.

And, again, it doesn't need my money at all.
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I didn't "task myself" with anything of that short. I stated that by Monday I would have the CONTENT of what would be the meat of the WVD. When Shinraven put his foot in his mouth -again- pretending that I have backed up and will not deliver, in spite of the fact that I had posted and long before decided that, since no enthusiastic support from the devs, which was a requirement, was forthcoming, I would not participate any longer in project WVD, I decided to post the raw content of the pamphlet that I hadn't even proof-read and that took all of 5 minutes to put together, days before. Get it now?

Still, by leaps and bounds, even in it's rawest form, stands out as a clear message with obvious positive results if even minimally distributed in the real world.
And that's a much, much, much bigger chance of anything remotely close to success -on a quite different scale- that Vericoin will ever have otherwise.

Capisce now?

But you should not bother your little head with so far superior thoughts. You'll be much more at ease down at veritalk chanting hurrahs all the way down to three digits. And then delisting. Which is where Vericoin's train wreck is heading in the current direction.

But just a thought the may eventually sink (though I doubt it), when a train is accelerating and adding as much fuel as possible towards an evident precipice (we are already very, very clearly on the steep way down), what do you think is really positive, a change of direction at the next switch or keep on chanting hurrahs while accelerating on the current direction? No need to answer that by the way.

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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.



Thank you for your well thought out response...much respect for your point of view. Why can't this forum be filled with civil and constructive discussion instead of feeding the hate machine know as barabass.

While barabass was spewing his hateful and non constructive rants there was a serious discussion of Dev4 (project Juggernaut) in IRC, a planned meeting will happen between Dev4 and the Vericoin developers soon. To discuss him possibly joining the team...

Pat, Doug and Dave will meet with him to see what he has to offer...he has dropped his intial offer of 1 million VRC to 500k VRC and payment would only be given when certain goals and projects have been completed.

The Vericoin Developers have stated that this is the communities coin and if we want to bring something to the table they are all for it. People have already offered to put forward a large amount of the required VRC to make this project a reality including myself.

Put your money where your mouth is barabass!

I had a chat here with Pnosker last week. He was kind enough to explain why he wrote his tweets, view, opinion, etc, and more importantly where this coin is heading. He made clear that the direction is the worldwide mass adoption theme, as he said it is what is it, that's what is happening and nothing else. Based on what I heard from Pnosker I can't see the deal with DEV4 is going to happen. Not to mention the difficulties of putting together the escrow and such project. I am in software development business, and I can't see a serious professional would waste his time with such deals like an escrow in this volatile altcoin market - at least I never met any in the last 25-30 years who would enter into such agreement (except if they are here for a P&D action and would pump the coin anyway, but that would be just another scam). In my opinion vericoin is having a delusional plan again regarding the DEV4 project. I was the first here to say the VISA card deal is very lame, and I can tell you the DEV4 idea is unrealistic :-))

I think it is not reasonable to say that we are just talking without providing solutions. I am not here to speak for Barrabas, he can write well :-))) but in my opinion Barrabas had many excellent suggestions here. I offered in this thread 2-3 weeks ago that I could organize a US$ 60k fund to cover 3-4 months work to deliver something that turn around the ship. That was not even considered as a viable option. I guess the only option here to ask the devs start working and deliver something that make sense.
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.



Thank you for your well thought out response...much respect for your point of view. Why can't this forum be filled with civil and constructive discussion instead of feeding the hate machine know as barabass.

While barabass was spewing his hateful and non constructive rants there was a serious discussion of Dev4 (project Juggernaut) in IRC, a planned meeting will happen between Dev4 and the Vericoin developers soon. To discuss him possibly joining the team...

Pat, Doug and Dave will meet with him to see what he has to offer...he has dropped his intial offer of 1 million VRC to 500k VRC and payment would only be given when certain goals and projects have been completed.

The Vericoin Developers have stated that this is the communities coin and if we want to bring something to the table they are all for it. People have already offered to put forward a large amount of the required VRC to make this project a reality including myself.

Put your money where your mouth is barabass!

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Sorry didn't bother reading it because its the same shit from the last 5-6 pages...no thanks
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August 25, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
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And just as I was typing this you posted three more times...all negative and none productive rantings and ramblings. I rest my case...

Actually Barrabas is right about Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS. All are completely useless functions and certainly don't put vericoin in the league of innovative coins. No wonder the statistic indicates the three features have 9 users worldwide (from the 9 users 3 are the developers). Hardly creative and innovative ideas like Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS are not good enough, no wonder the price is 9k.


And what other coins have useful features in the real world besides bitcoin? This is a long-term play...

You need to pull your head out of crypto and look at this from non crypto, everyday person point of view...the more features and useability Vericoin has the more chance it has at being a useable currency.

Well, obviously I can't prove you're wrong about that. I guess we just have a different view on what makes a coin successful. I don't think  Veribit, Verisend and VeriSMS can make a coin successful. But of course, this is just pure speculation, just as you speculate that that such features can propel a coin. Therefore, better to rely on the ultimate test: the market. The market has spoken and don't like the direction - that's why the price is 9k. CLOAK which had the same price as vericoin at the end June currently 4 times as valuable as vericoin today, VIACOIN that had the same price 4 weeks ago as vericoin currently more than 3 times as valuable as vericoin. So obviously not the seasonal investment volume issue is the real problem, even EffectsToCause always blame the summer for the low price.

The devs are here for the dollar and the only reason their CVs are in the public domain is to convince investors to buy the coin. Therefore, if they needed the investment, I believe it is reasonable to expect they do a better job (actually any job would be great because they not delivered anything in the last 9 weeks). I am not sure if you noticed, but there are at least 2 new people write in this thread every day who have never visited here before to tell the same story over and over: these real people aren't FUDders, they bought the coin for real money at 30k-50k by reading Pnosker tweets and EffectsToCause posts about the bright future. The disappointment of the investors is not FUD, and I think the problems and possible solutions need to be discussed.



Thank you for your well thought out response...much respect for your point of view. Why can't this forum be filled with civil and constructive discussion instead of feeding the hate machine know as barabass.

While barabass was spewing his hateful and non constructive rants there was a serious discussion of Dev4 (project Juggernaut) in IRC, a planned meeting will happen between Dev4 and the Vericoin developers soon. To discuss him possibly joining the team...

Pat, Doug and Dave will meet with him to see what he has to offer...he has dropped his intial offer of 1 million VRC to 500k VRC and payment would only be given when certain goals and projects have been completed.

The Vericoin Developers have stated that this is the communities coin and if we want to bring something to the table they are all for it. People have already offered to put forward a large amount of the required VRC to make this project a reality including myself.

Put your money where your mouth is barabass!

I had a chat here with Pnosker last week. He was kind enough to explain why he wrote his tweets, view, opinion, etc, and more importantly where this coin is heading. He made clear that the direction is the worldwide mass adoption theme, as he said it is what is it, that's what is happening and nothing else. Based on what I heard from Pnosker I can't see the deal with DEV4 is going to happen. Not to mention the difficulties of putting together the escrow and such project. I am in software development business, and I can't see a serious professional would waste his time with such deals like an escrow in this volatile altcoin market - at least I never met any in the last 25-30 years who would enter into such agreement (except if they are here for a P&D action and would pump the coin anyway, but that would be just another scam). In my opinion vericoin is having a delusional plan again regarding the DEV4 project. I was the first here to say the VISA card deal is very lame, and I can tell you the DEV4 idea is unrealistic :-))

I think it is not reasonable to say that we are just talking without providing solutions. I am not here to speak for Barrabas, he can write well :-))) but in my opinion Barrabas had many excellent suggestions here. I offered in this thread 2-3 weeks ago that I could organize a US$ 60k fund to cover 3-4 months work to deliver something that turn around the ship. That was not even considered as a viable option. I guess the only option here to ask the devs start working and deliver something that make sense.

We shall see what happens with Dev4...it was his suggestion for escrow.

The Dev's are still working on the current projects on the road map so if Dev4 can bring more then why not?
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August 25, 2014, 08:39:08 PM
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Hey guys sry I have been absent recently, still swamped with getting the Physical Vericoins in order, Anyway THANK YOU to everyone in the community for your support I know myself and the Devs are constantly really busy so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Once again THANK YOU everyone, your hard work and support are extremely appreciated

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August 25, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
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why can't barabbas and his little minions understand that its not the suggestions or being right or wrong thats the problem! its HOW he says it ... just keep doing your thing and calling everyone else cheerleaders or correcting spelling ... its clear your not trying to be useful at all and if you are you have zero ppl skills..prob a product of always being behind your screen...i don't even read your long posts cause its a complete waste of time rather you have a point or not most will never know cause your lack of respect.. plz i won't read your answer so don't bother typing another essay, which obviously you will ,seems you live for this..

anyhow with that said..my opinion(not like it matters I'm just a cheerleader) is that its great that the dev4 will meet up with pnosker and the team to discuss what he has to offer and i like that he lowered his demands.. to answer the question on "who  would work with an escrow and not get paid right away?" many people would thats ridiculous to say no one would do that, if he knows he can deliver what he's planning to bring to the table why not.. and if he sees something in vericoin others don't ,why not? anyway thats just my opinion...every single thing that is brought up that vericoin is working on is labeled dumb by the exact same ppl... why don't you guys band up together since some of you say you have so much to offer and know exactly what the perfect alt coin should consist of, go and make your own coin?

but i must say barabbas is by far the most entertaining..i actually feel sorry that he prob invested his life savings into vericoin at peak price. i can't see any other reason for such rage... keep calling people you don't know idiots and uneducated, you have no clue who your talking too... you need anger management and friends lol

so ill just continue doing what i can to help which isn't much besides accumulating and staking and of course cheerleading!
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Hey guys sry I have been absent recently, still swamped with getting the Physical Vericoins in order, Anyway THANK YOU to everyone in the community for your support I know myself and the Devs are constantly really busy so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Once again THANK YOU everyone, your hard work and support are extremely appreciated

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what do u mean "dumping this"?
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August 25, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
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Hey guys sry I have been absent recently, still swamped with getting the Physical Vericoins in order, Anyway THANK YOU to everyone in the community for your support I know myself and the Devs are constantly really busy so if you have an idea or contribution (such as the white papers or YT vids) PLEASE PM me and I will make sure important info gets passed on directly to the Devs.

Once again THANK YOU everyone, your hard work and support are extremely appreciated

bumping this
what do u mean "dumping this"?

he means reposting "bumping"
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