[ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018

[Vorksholk]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

[jjiimm_64]

Hello,
  where are the daily historical stats?

this page lists the stats every day:  https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/statsAuth

at the bottom of the page we have

Code:

Day	Validity	Folding Team	Time 	Points for Day
4	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-12 02:47:22 AM	41,126,921
3	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-11 02:47:21 AM	41,099,264
2	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-10 02:47:21 AM	38,279,246
1	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-09 07:56:15 PM	38,279,246

The Day column has a link to the daily stats, but it is broken.. please fix

bump!
Hello,
  where are the daily historical stats?

[Vorksholk]

Hello,
  where are the daily historical stats?

this page lists the stats every day:  https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/statsAuth

at the bottom of the page we have

Code:

Day	Validity	Folding Team	Time 	Points for Day
4	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-12 02:47:22 AM	41,126,921
3	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-11 02:47:21 AM	41,099,264
2	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-10 02:47:21 AM	38,279,246
1	Confirmed!	Curecoin	2015-02-09 07:56:15 PM	38,279,246

The Day column has a link to the daily stats, but it is broken.. please fix

bump!
Hello,
  where are the daily historical stats?

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I'm not seeing the daily stats link, is that on the statsAuth page?

[jjiimm_64]

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I'm not seeing the daily stats link, is that on the statsAuth page?

That would be great.. nothin fancy needed.. just the data..

the link of each day in the 'Day' column at the bottom of the statsAuth page has   https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/none/tx/

[jjiimm_64]

todays numbers do not add up....  at 23 hours the daily link showed that I had 4.2M ppd... now I get paid 3.2M ppd for the whole day.. wtf

[jjiimm_64]

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I doubt you will show the historical pages.... cause it will show the payouts are not adding up...

No way I did under 4.5M today....  my payout is listed at 3.2M

[Vorksholk]

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I doubt you will show the historical pages.... cause it will show the payouts are not adding up...

No way I did under 4.5M today....  my payout is listed at 3.2M

Looking at the data that was scrabbled about an hour ago, you folded 4,567,870, and the team folded 40,020,884, which is 11.4137% or a payout of 854.659. What's your Curecoin address?

Edit: Additionally, on the statsAuth page, you are shown with an estimated earnings of 629.4837 right now, which would be 8.4065% of the team PPD, which was 44,426,463:
0.084065*44426463 = 3,734,710 PPD

[jjiimm_64]

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I doubt you will show the historical pages.... cause it will show the payouts are not adding up...

No way I did under 4.5M today....  my payout is listed at 3.2M

Looking at the data that was scrabbled about an hour ago, you folded 4,567,870, and the team folded 40,020,884, which is 11.4137% or a payout of 854.659. What's your Curecoin address?

Edit: Additionally, on the statsAuth page, you are shown with an estimated earnings of 629.4837 right now, which would be 8.4065% of the team PPD, which was 44,426,463:
0.084065*44426463 = 3,734,710 PPD

Thank you sir. that sounds right!
question now is why the descepency, and last week i had similar descrepencies.

Thanks again for running the numbers manually

[Vorksholk]

Hey jim, there's actually no historical stats (aside from following an address in a block explorer), although if people are interested I could make a site that stores old versions of the statsAuth page

I doubt you will show the historical pages.... cause it will show the payouts are not adding up...

No way I did under 4.5M today....  my payout is listed at 3.2M



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Looking at the data that was scrabbled about an hour ago, you folded 4,567,870, and the team folded 40,020,884, which is 11.4137% or a payout of 854.659. What's your Curecoin address?

Edit: Additionally, on the statsAuth page, you are shown with an estimated earnings of 629.4837 right now, which would be 8.4065% of the team PPD, which was 44,426,463:
0.084065*44426463 = 3,734,710 PPD

Thank you sir. that sounds right!
question now is why the descepency, and last week i had similar descrepencies.

Thanks again for running the numbers manually

For anyone following, this was resolved in IRC.

Basic summary:
-Stats on statsAuth for payouts are correct
-They are, however, "a day ahead" (So ones paid on the 18th were for points earned on the 17th)

Here's my estimation chart for jimbit (green is paid, yellow is pending):


Estimates there are a bit under the actual payout, cause some people fold for team 224497 without a cryptobullionpools account, so their points don't count towards the payout PPD, but they count towards the PPD that I pull in those spreadsheets. For points on the 17th, his actual payout was 629.48378889.

[jjiimm_64]

volkshork, is correct.. the stats you see on http://stats.curecoinfolding.com/daily.html will not be paid till the next day, regardless what it says at the top of the page.

[ryohazuki89]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

[cryptoconomist]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

We also have no idea how POS work...

More transparency is needed on all those issues

[Vorksholk]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

We also have no idea how POS work...

More transparency is needed on all those issues

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/#!rich shows the richlist, those top 6 addresses hold all the premine curecoins waiting to be distributed to folders.
For posterity's sake, these addresses are:
BRVMsiNb6gXq4XsTZ7LvMsktsctBFv51nd (Active 'payout' wallet, holding around 8,629,180 CURE right now. Note that this address isn't online often, it is used to refill the true 'hot' wallet when necessary).
B94cxTxuecy1jP5hfEV3EZTaxGAMnoMU8E (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,629 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4141)
B6UzKzMnNk8DbAq7hpH8ZqScxdTGkUYYo6 (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4147)
BTLLZVK7C9C8YTSnLqqtm8F5X3YphM79Ef (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4157)
BKf3prKE3UWtttQp5Lb945yW2XJb23nt8u (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4159)
B4dbDb5Qt7DifAd26LqJZi756fNB9YS2JB (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4179)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BY-ezmmVbooFwa3dzJZowpYmxEu9HgO2o5FeR7Evc-U/edit#gid=0 Gives the detailed math for the premine breakdown.

You can check out https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/address.dws?BRTsnn5J8E61ep8mZM4YGuSLmV5wGeZU6N.htm and follow the premine from its source (that's the original premine address).

Right now, the 'cold storage' number is those addresses added together, plus a few hundred thousand sitting around waiting to be paid out for folding rewards.

Some of the coins on the payout pool might have staked, I don't keep up with that. Policy is (I believe) any staked coins from user balances left on the server are rolled into payouts, so it'll push back the folding halving date, or make the folding payouts stretch longer. At any rate, the folding pool payout model should (assuming cc2.0 works as planned) disappear sometime in 2015 and be replaced by a distributed method of coin generation. At that point, the remaining premine won't be transferred to the new chain.

[FoldingCoin]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

We also have no idea how POS work...

More transparency is needed on all those issues

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/#!rich shows the richlist, those top 6 addresses hold all the premine curecoins waiting to be distributed to folders.
For posterity's sake, these addresses are:
BRVMsiNb6gXq4XsTZ7LvMsktsctBFv51nd (Active 'payout' wallet, holding around 8,629,180 CURE right now. Note that this address isn't online often, it is used to refill the true 'hot' wallet when necessary).
B94cxTxuecy1jP5hfEV3EZTaxGAMnoMU8E (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,629 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4141)
B6UzKzMnNk8DbAq7hpH8ZqScxdTGkUYYo6 (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4147)
BTLLZVK7C9C8YTSnLqqtm8F5X3YphM79Ef (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4157)
BKf3prKE3UWtttQp5Lb945yW2XJb23nt8u (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4159)
B4dbDb5Qt7DifAd26LqJZi756fNB9YS2JB (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4179)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BY-ezmmVbooFwa3dzJZowpYmxEu9HgO2o5FeR7Evc-U/edit#gid=0 Gives the detailed math for the premine breakdown.

You can check out https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/address.dws?BRTsnn5J8E61ep8mZM4YGuSLmV5wGeZU6N.htm and follow the premine from its source (that's the original premine address).

Right now, the 'cold storage' number is those addresses added together, plus a few hundred thousand sitting around waiting to be paid out for folding rewards.

Some of the coins on the payout pool might have staked, I don't keep up with that. Policy is (I believe) any staked coins from user balances left on the server are rolled into payouts, so it'll push back the folding halving date, or make the folding payouts stretch longer. At any rate, the folding pool payout model should (assuming cc2.0 works as planned) disappear sometime in 2015 and be replaced by a distributed method of coin generation. At that point, the remaining premine won't be transferred to the new chain.

Is 24 million the total in circulation or is it the total cap overall? Because I know coinmarketcap will just look for all the coins that had been created. So you probably have the same issue as us with getting that number to display the correct amount.

Since all the coins have been created, to get a more accurate estimate of coins in circulation what we did was created an asset on Counterparty called "FLDCAPI" and this asset itself has no value and we control it. Basically we asked Coinmarketcap to watch the address that has FLDCAPI in it here http://blockscan.com/address/16cES2Nxv9D5vjsMT5A4HEwhbUPDg3Nnpd for the accurate amount in actual circulation. So then we simply move over each daily distribution to that address and it automatically calculates. Did that make sense?

So you could create a CUREAPI token and have the total undistributed CUREAPI amount in one address, and everyday move over the amount that has been distributed to the other address that coinmarketcap watches.

[cryptoconomist]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

We also have no idea how POS work...

More transparency is needed on all those issues

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/#!rich shows the richlist, those top 6 addresses hold all the premine curecoins waiting to be distributed to folders.
For posterity's sake, these addresses are:
BRVMsiNb6gXq4XsTZ7LvMsktsctBFv51nd (Active 'payout' wallet, holding around 8,629,180 CURE right now. Note that this address isn't online often, it is used to refill the true 'hot' wallet when necessary).
B94cxTxuecy1jP5hfEV3EZTaxGAMnoMU8E (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,629 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4141)
B6UzKzMnNk8DbAq7hpH8ZqScxdTGkUYYo6 (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4147)
BTLLZVK7C9C8YTSnLqqtm8F5X3YphM79Ef (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4157)
BKf3prKE3UWtttQp5Lb945yW2XJb23nt8u (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4159)
B4dbDb5Qt7DifAd26LqJZi756fNB9YS2JB (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4179)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BY-ezmmVbooFwa3dzJZowpYmxEu9HgO2o5FeR7Evc-U/edit#gid=0 Gives the detailed math for the premine breakdown.

You can check out https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/address.dws?BRTsnn5J8E61ep8mZM4YGuSLmV5wGeZU6N.htm and follow the premine from its source (that's the original premine address).

Right now, the 'cold storage' number is those addresses added together, plus a few hundred thousand sitting around waiting to be paid out for folding rewards.

Some of the coins on the payout pool might have staked, I don't keep up with that. Policy is (I believe) any staked coins from user balances left on the server are rolled into payouts, so it'll push back the folding halving date, or make the folding payouts stretch longer. At any rate, the folding pool payout model should (assuming cc2.0 works as planned) disappear sometime in 2015 and be replaced by a distributed method of coin generation. At that point, the remaining premine won't be transferred to the new chain.

Good links. Maybe it would be an idea to add all those infos on the front page of bitcointalk and on curecoin website

What will happen with the unclaimed coins once curecoin 2.0 is launched? For how long will people be able to exchange their cc1 for cc2?

Much appreciate all those links I didn't know about chainz.cryptoid.info

So if I understand correctly there is around 3.6mm coins in circulation with a market cap of around 29k usd

this coin could easily go to 1usd maybe even 10/20 usd if we start matching LTC which I think could be possible... I really believe in this coin but we need more media exposure and mostly merchants accepting it.

Moving from centralized to decentralized will be a big boost for credibility but I don't think it will be enough to get us to 1usd.

[Vorksholk]

1. How many CureCoins are there supposed to be in existence ?

According to CoinWarz...

27,069,500

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/curecoin

That is the coins to be issued , previous link was on coinmarketcap is for coins in circulation. Note that number is from PoW and does not include coins minted from PoS.

How many are in the dev's wallet that are set to be distributed for folding, then? Only two million?

Not sure on the number as I don't have direct access to the pool, but most of the coins are probably in cold storage.

I'm confused on how the transparency really works, then.

So there are 27+ million curecoins in "circulation", meaning that the only curecoin that aren't included in this number are ones that haven't been mined, correct?

And so within that 27 million there is a number of coins sitting in cold storage waiting to be distributed to folders, correct? What is that number? To me they're not necessarily in "circulation" if they are in cold storage and yet to be distributed.

And if we can't clearly see the number of coins waiting to be distributed to folders, how can anybody match that up with the stats to confirm there's no shenanigans?

We also have no idea how POS work...

More transparency is needed on all those issues

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/#!rich shows the richlist, those top 6 addresses hold all the premine curecoins waiting to be distributed to folders.
For posterity's sake, these addresses are:
BRVMsiNb6gXq4XsTZ7LvMsktsctBFv51nd (Active 'payout' wallet, holding around 8,629,180 CURE right now. Note that this address isn't online often, it is used to refill the true 'hot' wallet when necessary).
B94cxTxuecy1jP5hfEV3EZTaxGAMnoMU8E (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,629 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4141)
B6UzKzMnNk8DbAq7hpH8ZqScxdTGkUYYo6 (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4147)
BTLLZVK7C9C8YTSnLqqtm8F5X3YphM79Ef (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4157)
BKf3prKE3UWtttQp5Lb945yW2XJb23nt8u (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4159)
B4dbDb5Qt7DifAd26LqJZi756fNB9YS2JB (Coldstorage, holding 2,322,628 CURE. Hasn't been touched since block 4179)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BY-ezmmVbooFwa3dzJZowpYmxEu9HgO2o5FeR7Evc-U/edit#gid=0 Gives the detailed math for the premine breakdown.

You can check out https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cure/address.dws?BRTsnn5J8E61ep8mZM4YGuSLmV5wGeZU6N.htm and follow the premine from its source (that's the original premine address).

Right now, the 'cold storage' number is those addresses added together, plus a few hundred thousand sitting around waiting to be paid out for folding rewards.

Some of the coins on the payout pool might have staked, I don't keep up with that. Policy is (I believe) any staked coins from user balances left on the server are rolled into payouts, so it'll push back the folding halving date, or make the folding payouts stretch longer. At any rate, the folding pool payout model should (assuming cc2.0 works as planned) disappear sometime in 2015 and be replaced by a distributed method of coin generation. At that point, the remaining premine won't be transferred to the new chain.

Good links. Maybe it would be an idea to add all those infos on the front page of bitcointalk and on curecoin website

What will happen with the unclaimed coins once curecoin 2.0 is launched? For how long will people be able to exchange their cc1 for cc2?

Much appreciate all those links I didn't know about chainz.cryptoid.info

So if I understand correctly there is around 3.6mm coins in circulation with a market cap of around 29k usd

this coin could easily go to 1usd maybe even 10/20 usd if we start matching LTC which I think could be possible... I really believe in this coin but we need more media exposure and mostly merchants accepting it.

Moving from centralized to decentralized will be a big boost for credibility but I don't think it will be enough to get us to 1usd.

Good idea, I'll bug josh about putting that in OP


TBH, I'm not sure if the Outstanding figure on chainz factors in PoS, but somewhere around 3.6 million coins in circulation sounds about right.

Yup, centralization has been a big hindrance so far, hopefully we can fix most of that soon. It'll still be somewhat-centralized around the research institutes, but that's a drastic improvement from the current system. Marketing/etc. will become more of a priority once we have more to market, aka 2.0

[ryohazuki89]

Yup, centralization has been a big hindrance so far, hopefully we can fix most of that soon. It'll still be somewhat-centralized around the research institutes, but that's a drastic improvement from the current system. Marketing/etc. will become more of a priority once we have more to market, aka 2.0

So knowing full well that centralization is a big hindrance, you guys didn't forego on making sure than transparency was clear for the world to see?

I mean, it seems a given to have on the website's homepage to say:
x amount of currently pre-mined curecoin to be distributed to folders
x amount of points folded today equaling x amount of curecoins distributed today to folders
x remaining curecoin to be distributed for folders


Something of that nature. I'm in no place to criticize, my knowledge isn't anywhere near your guys', but come on, from a sales point of view I don't know how this passed by your guys' heads. I must be missing something here.

[valkir]

Is there a getting started folding with linux somewhere ??

Thanks 

[artoar_11]

Is there a getting started folding with linux somewhere ??

Thanks 

http://folding.stanford.edu/home/guide/linux-install-guide/ 

[valkir]

Thanks you! Will setup this tonight!