There have been a lot of posts since I posted last, so I'll answer a bunch at once:
Maybe that's the whole point. It could be someone who hates altcoins in general or CLAM in particular.
You have talk to him? I think if people will offer him a 300-400 btc wall on polo maybe he will take it.
I don't know who he is. If I have talked to him, I didn't know it was him.
I don't like the idea of offering a wall. Why pay him 300-400 BTC for his remaining CLAMs if we can pay him less (by NOT putting a wall on polo and letting the price find its own level)?
As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
So you would be in favour of putting it to the vote I presume?
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Right. I'm guilty of being sloppy with the terms. When I talk about "digging" I generally mean the act of moving initial-distribution CLAMs for the first time, rather than the act of importing an old wallet into your CLAM client. That's because importing old wallets is not detectable - nothing shows up on the CLAM network until you stake or spend your dug up CLAMs. So the client would need to be modified to interpret unmoved distribution CLAMs differently - either value them lower, or ignore them completely.
Please don't do this Dooglus. It will forever make clam nothing more than a token for JD. While some argue that it is already that, at least it has the possibility to become more.
Are you saying "please don't stop digging" or "please don't let the community vote to decide what to do about digging"?
Those are two very different things.
Hello ClamCoin members, i had questions about spec.
1. Confirms received?
2. Confirms rewards?
3. Minimum age till mature?
4. Block target interval?
5 Max coin cap?
I don't know if I understand your questions, but I'll try:
1) the network targets one block per minute
2) each block reward is 1 CLAM plus any transaction fees
3) newly staked blocks take 500 blocks to mature; the default client won't attempt to spend them until they have 510 confirmations; other transactions take 4 hours to 'mature' such that their outputs can be used to stake
4) see 1; I guess I didn't understand your first question
5) see 2; there's no limit, since 1 CLAM is staked each minute on average
IMO a), b), e) can be voted right now,
c) , d) also can be voted, but if choosen - specification and detalisation could be done later via additional voting.
So my suggestion is to make voting as soon as possible. Can't see my CLAM holdings becomes nothing. So why we need waste time preparing complicated solution if it even might not be choosen by community?
Good point. We could start voting immediately. But there seems to be some dispute as to whether it's legitimate to have the community decide CLAM's future or not. So before we start voting, we need to decide whether we're going to even have a vote... I've no idea how we make such a decision. Maybe we should vote on it?...
One fundamental aspect of CLAM is that it was well known from the very get-go [...]
It's true. We knew from the outset that this was a risk. We also knew from the outset that having a "lottery" style staking system (block rewards 'randomly' between 0.1 and 1000 CLAMs) was probably gameable. When it became clear that it was being gamed, the rules were changed to remove the lottery system. That was before JD started using CLAM, but it happened. The CLAM rules have been changed several times already in reaction to observations. It's not like the current ruleset is somehow untouchable. It's just the current ruleset.
Previous changes have been handed down to us by the CLAM developers with little to no consultation with the larger community, and certainly no voting.
I understand that quite a large percentage of the community thinks we should leave digging just as it is now. If that's the most widespread opinion (modulo CLAM holdings) then that's what a vote would result in happening.
Is there anyone who thinks we should leave digging just as it is now
even if the majority of CLAM holders want it to be changed? ie. is there anyone who doesn't want this put to a vote?
Is there a way to claim CLAM without sync the whole chain and without giving private keys to someone buying addresses?
you can easily do so on just-dice
And on clamchecker.com. Last I heard they were paying 0.05 BTC per private key, and 0.02 BTC to whoever referred you there. I'm not sure if they have a policy against referring yourself, but if not then you can get 0.07 BTC per private key, or 0.00151993 BTC per CLAM. That's currently a little below the market price, but worth bearing in mind.
