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Author Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread  (Read 710070 times)
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July 31, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
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Hey Everybody,

So I just setup my newly received S3s from Batch 4. All work well except for this one particular S3 which keeps on showing hash rate of ~338gh/s. On further inspection from the Miner Status page, I found that Chain #2 is showing ASIC Status of "-o-o-o-o -o-o-o-o -o-o-o-o -ooo-o-o" & ASIC # as "32" which is different from all my other miners showing "oooooooo oooooooo" and "16" respectively.

Any idea what is wrong? Everything is running on stock, connecting 2 S3s to a Cooler Master V1200 Platinum (will eventually run 3 on this later all on stock but 2 for now)



First time I ever heard of this one. That chain 2 board sounds more like it's from an S1.
I would first try a reboot and if that doesn't help maybe you should pull the cover and check that board.
If both boards look the same you could try re-seating all of your cables or just make sure they're plugged in all the way.


Someone else reported something very like this many pages back.  Not sure if they ever got it sorted.  Did you try flashing firmware?
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July 31, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
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Others with a similar experience found that it was DNS related.

Thank for your reply, but im 100% sure i have it setup properly. I didnt changed router, provider
or anything else. So if i compare default gateway with my router (ipconfig), its the same as always:
192.168.0.1. For beeing really sure about this settings, I tried also use DHCP and it assigned to
miners the same settings. Also there shouldnt be any relation between "miner status" stats and
DNS. As i remember, if i even dont have miners connected to the internet, tab "miner status" was
normally visible. Or am I wrong with my thoughts? Sad
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July 31, 2014, 03:39:42 PM
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Did you see this? Thinking about buying this but not right now. Min of 500.

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140731043909819C9CL7qf4064A#tab-description


That's an expensive paper clip and you need to buy 500 at a time.

I use a paperclip now, I use a very thick one just in case.

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July 31, 2014, 03:46:06 PM
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Others with a similar experience found that it was DNS related.

Thank for your reply, but im 100% sure i have it setup properly. I didnt changed router, provider
or anything else. So if i compare default gateway with my router (ipconfig), its the same as always:
192.168.0.1. For beeing really sure about this settings, I tried also use DHCP and it assigned to
miners the same settings. Also there shouldnt be any relation between "miner status" stats and
DNS. As i remember, if i even dont have miners connected to the internet, tab "miner status" was
normally visible. Or am I wrong with my thoughts? Sad

Look back on page 171, this might help you out.
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July 31, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
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Others with a similar experience found that it was DNS related.

Thank for your reply, but im 100% sure i have it setup properly. I didnt changed router, provider
or anything else. So if i compare default gateway with my router (ipconfig), its the same as always:
192.168.0.1. For beeing really sure about this settings, I tried also use DHCP and it assigned to
miners the same settings. Also there shouldnt be any relation between "miner status" stats and
DNS. As i remember, if i even dont have miners connected to the internet, tab "miner status" was
normally visible. Or am I wrong with my thoughts? Sad

Try using a static ip and for DNS use Google's DNS servers. 8.8.8.8 and  8.8.4.4 as previous poster said this took care of similar problems.

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July 31, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
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Hey Everybody,

So I just setup my newly received S3s from Batch 4. All work well except for this one particular S3 which keeps on showing hash rate of ~338gh/s. On further inspection from the Miner Status page, I found that Chain #2 is showing ASIC Status of "-o-o-o-o -o-o-o-o -o-o-o-o -ooo-o-o" & ASIC # as "32" which is different from all my other miners showing "oooooooo oooooooo" and "16" respectively.

Any idea what is wrong? Everything is running on stock, connecting 2 S3s to a Cooler Master V1200 Platinum (will eventually run 3 on this later all on stock but 2 for now)



First time I ever heard of this one. That chain 2 board sounds more like it's from an S1.
I would first try a reboot and if that doesn't help maybe you should pull the cover and check that board.
If both boards look the same you could try re-seating all of your cables or just make sure they're plugged in all the way.


Thanks for your help, already tried a reboot and replugged all the PCIE power cables, I will certainly follow your suggestion and check the board after leaving the S3 to run for a couple of hours. At first, I thought to myself "oh wow, 32 ASIC chips means I get double the output" LOL  Grin
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July 31, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
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Question to someone adept in thermal paste application:

1. If you take the heat sink off and see that paste is applied OK by Bitmain, can you just slowly plop the heat sink back, or you HAVE to clean up and reapply new paste?
2. How much of AS5 to apply? I tried to do it on the first machine (too early to know the results) and you can actually spread it very thin with a rasor blade or exacto knife.
3. When it stabilizes after the application as far as thermal transmission is concerned? AS5 manual talks about something happening in ~25hr and something else in ~200hr.

1) yes and no. if you dont adjust and reapply some paste it would likely be worse than it started out. might still function fine but after all the work of remounting it you would have poorer contact than you started with
2) small amount. maybe the size of a plastic BB. dont put much effort spreading it since the pressure of the heatsink should do that for you
3) give it at least 12hrs to cure a little before running the antminer, it may take longer to reach 100% cured but will work anyways


no need to wait to try to cure the thermal paste since thermal paste does not dry or seal . you can powerup as soon as it is applied.

Thanks to everyone who responded. BTW, Arctic Silver 5 has thermal conductivity of ~8.5W/m-K

@aztecminer
Yes, Arctic Silver 5 manual says that you can start using immediately, but it will decrease the temperatures slowly (break-in over 200hr)
I am running 2.5 hours so far after AS5 application and temperature dropped from the initial 43 to 40-41C already.
I will wait to report the speed comparison until 12-14 h mark if not later.

@allcoinminer
Got it re plopping the heat sink back without cleaning and reapplication. However, I did spread it evenly over the surface, but took care not to have any on pins/connectors (because it is slightly capacitive according to manual).
I will post pictures later to explain why I decided to spread it (hint-what you described did not work for Bitmain).

@klondike_bar
thanks for the info regarding possible air bubble if no re-application of paste.
decided not to let it cure-too impatient, but started with lower mhz.

If you don't have AS5, and can't wait for amazon, grab it (3.5g) at Microcenter-they usually have loads. I ordered some online, but could not wait  Smiley



i have not been using AS5 due it being capacitance conductive ..
that is the reason i been using the gc-extreme because it is neither electrical conductive nor capacitive conductive ..
gc-extreme is carbon-based ~8.5W/m-K i think is better for our application around such small asic chips ..
good to see the drops in temps though which is what we hope to see changing the thermal paste ..
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July 31, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
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Others with a similar experience found that it was DNS related.

Thank for your reply, but im 100% sure i have it setup properly. I didnt changed router, provider
or anything else. So if i compare default gateway with my router (ipconfig), its the same as always:
192.168.0.1. For beeing really sure about this settings, I tried also use DHCP and it assigned to
miners the same settings. Also there shouldnt be any relation between "miner status" stats and
DNS. As i remember, if i even dont have miners connected to the internet, tab "miner status" was
normally visible. Or am I wrong with my thoughts? Sad

Try using a static ip and for DNS use Google's DNS servers. 8.8.8.8 and  8.8.4.4 as previous poster said this took care of similar problems.

Yes, many users had this same problem. Only use 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 The 4.2.2.2 is OK also. (we get this question ever 20 post or so, don't get cute and use OPEN DNS or anything like that)

If you make ANY changes to IP, PHYSICALL REBOOT THE MINER. Make sure your Gateway is not your IP, Gateway is your router. If you use your own IP as the gateway your charts will be blank.

ALSO, fill in all 3 failovers, even if its the same information in all 3, do not leave any blank unless you want to put my wallet address in instead Smiley

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July 31, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
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July 31, 2014, 04:33:12 PM
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Has anyone had experience routing shipments to multiple addresses from Bitmain? Example, I buy 2 miners, one that needs to go to Texas, and one that goes to California. Can they do it through their site, or do I need to do it through UPS? Curious if folks have done this before.
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July 31, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
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Has anyone had experience routing shipments to multiple addresses from Bitmain? Example, I buy 2 miners, one that needs to go to Texas, and one that goes to California. Can they do it through their site, or do I need to do it through UPS? Curious if folks have done this before.

you can't do it mate, they are requesting you to buy 2 in a single order only for a better covering of shipping expenses.

Just choose one destination (for ex. Texas) and when you receive the two s3 send one in california with a domestic, inexpensive shipping

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July 31, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
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Has anyone had experience routing shipments to multiple addresses from Bitmain? Example, I buy 2 miners, one that needs to go to Texas, and one that goes to California. Can they do it through their site, or do I need to do it through UPS? Curious if folks have done this before.

you can't do it mate, they are requesting you to buy 2 in a single order only for a better covering of shipping expenses.

Just choose one destination (for ex. Texas) and when you receive the two s3 send one in california with a domestic, inexpensive shipping

Bummer. I can re-route them via UPS once it's shipped, but that's a hassle for multiple units. Oh well, I guess that's the only way to go about it. Thanks for confirming!
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July 31, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
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July 31, 2014, 05:16:08 PM
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anyone that is selling his coupons?

I have some, what are you offering for them?
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July 31, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
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 I've been trying to contact Bitmain for days. Maybe their guy will read this. I placed an order for (5) S3's on the 24th. My funds were temporarily unavailable. I had already sent part of it and Just completed sending the rest today. I know the price has changed...and batch 5 is fine. I need to know if and how much I need to add. Or possibly making a new order w/ the present payment address.


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    Date: 2014-07-24 17:14:24
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    Payment Method: Blockchain

Please, contact or email me (Bitmain Tech) Thank You, armstrong 4140
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July 31, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
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I've found that the pair I have run best at 212.5 freq, --queue=1, hashing reliably for 2 days at 428. I'm fairly bummed that it won't reliably do more and won't be buying anymore until they fix the issues with the DC/DC converters.

Hi, I mostly missed the queue discussion, but the gist is that instead of
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1"/g' /etc/init.d/cgminer
I can/should use
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 1 /etc/init.d/cgminer

Correct? Thanks.
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July 31, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
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I've found that the pair I have run best at 212.5 freq, --queue=1, hashing reliably for 2 days at 428. I'm fairly bummed that it won't reliably do more and won't be buying anymore until they fix the issues with the DC/DC converters.

Hi, I mostly missed the queue discussion, but the gist is that instead of
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1"/g' /etc/init.d/cgminer
I can/should use
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 1 /etc/init.d/cgminer

Correct? Thanks.

These S3's are finicky. I found one that's been hashing at 500-503 GH/s likes the queue 1 setting, and the other that's been hashing at 441 GH/s does not like queue 1. So with each S3 it's "ymmv" (your mileage may vary).
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July 31, 2014, 06:32:03 PM
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I've found that the pair I have run best at 212.5 freq, --queue=1, hashing reliably for 2 days at 428. I'm fairly bummed that it won't reliably do more and won't be buying anymore until they fix the issues with the DC/DC converters.

Hi, I mostly missed the queue discussion, but the gist is that instead of
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1"/g' /etc/init.d/cgminer
I can/should use
Code:
sed -i 's/--queue 4096"/--queue 1 /etc/init.d/cgminer

Correct? Thanks.

Hmm those double quotes " don't look right in that sed command - paste the contents of /etc/init.d/cgminer...

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July 31, 2014, 06:34:30 PM
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The option to edit my B5 order just disappeared, so I'm guessing I'll be getting an update soon!
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July 31, 2014, 06:39:54 PM
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The option to edit my B5 order just disappeared, so I'm guessing I'll be getting an update soon!

Normally indicates they've taken away the ability to change your shipping address, so they're getting ready to at least enter the info and print the label, so you're close to shipping. I saw the same status a short while ago for my latest order.

Hope we both have good luck as they travel to their destinations.
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