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This is the reason i suggested giving a private key instead of sending the coins. Don't pay us back?? We yank it back anyways. Back then, I expressed the opinion that people could just transfer the coin and that would be over, but after all, we can notice it and more importantly, they would have to learn something more about HYP. But the main reason I was not that enthusiastic about it is that by then is that I did not completely understood the export and dump priv key thing. And was concerned it would be difficult to explain to others. These issues are over now so I could implement it. Still, I'd prefer to wait for triggers to be implemented, so we could have a time-based trigger. This is not as great as a real smart contract, since the trigger will have to be created by the receiver and we have no technical way to enforce it (contrary to a real smart contract), but that would be a great way to advance in the direction of smart contracts - we would need multisig, at a minimum. Time-lock and enforceable, and we may even prevent transfer of money to another address. Think Bitcoin Halo, ethereum/aethereum and BitBay (except the scam) here. HyperLoan toward smart contract? (escrow = bloating - I could as well be the escrow, then, no one would doubt my reputation - but I'd rather have something as automated as possible) Then again, this requires more dev and we don't have enough at the moment. Especially if we want to deliver webwallet - which is a higher priority than smart contracts, although a lower priority than multisend + trigger, since presstab is already on it. But the main issue about HyperLoan is not technical. As I said, the main reason I postponed this week's HyperLoan is that people did not even care to win. Winners did not contact me to give me an addrress and I suggest that in one month, those who gave me an address back then will not send the money back because they do not even know they have some HYP they won. Wall of shame was populated for a short while, then I realised PM crossed so I removed freedom from the WoS - but if in two day he did not pay, I will have to add him again. Several people were late for paying, but I think they all acted in good well. Thus the need for an automated solution. And for those who want to investigate more about smart contracts: https://hyperstake.slack.com/archives/smartcontracts/ |
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David Latapie
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December 14, 2014, 05:44:10 AM
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Error, correct values for HYP (these ones are for TRK's PoW phase). If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it. Source: HYP diff
Block Difficulty Notes
0 0,000244137 Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
6 0,000244137 Block 6: first lowering in difficulty - it won't last
16 0,000269512 Block 16: previous ATH broken
26 0,000310479 Block 26: 0.0003 is broken
32 0,000416275 Block 32: 0.0004 is broken
36 0,000506152 Block 36: 0.0005 is broken
40 0,000600732 Block 40: 0.0006 is broken
44 0,000731683 Block 44: 0.0007 is broken
46 0,000806813 Block 46: 0.0008 is broken
49 0,000933689 Block 47: 0.0009 is broken
51 0,00102898 Block 51: the symbolic 0.001 is broken
65 0,0020041 Block 65: 0.002 is broken
74 0,00304504 Block 75: 0.003 is broken
81 0,0041321 Block 81: 0.004 is broken
86 0,00516652 Block 86: 0.005 is broken
90 0,00623955 Block 90: 0.006 is broken
93 0,00714773 Block 93: 0.007 is broken
96 0,00824367 Block 96: 0.008 is broken
99 0,00938436 Block 99: the hundredth block has 40x time more diff that the very first one (block 0)
100 0,00985438 At block 100, difficulty is already 40x times higher than at the start
101 0,0102142 Block 101 breaks the symbolic 0.01 barrier
116 0,0205144 Block 116: 0.02 is broken
125 0,0311326 Block 125: 0.03 is broken
132 0,0413263 Block 132: 0.04 is broken
137 0,0511488 Block 137: 0.05 is broken
142 0,0619258 Block 142: 0.06 is broken
147 0,07174 Block 147: 0.07 is broken
151 0,0835648 Block 151: 0.08 is broken
153 0,0906984 Block 153: 0.09 is broken
156 0,104012 Block 156: the symbolic 0.1 is broken
191 0,200142 Block 191: this one took time, but 0.2 is finally broken
200 0,306339 The symbolic block 200 breaks the 0.3 barrier
206 0,40933 Block 206: 0.4 is broken
211 0,513525 Block 211: 0.5 is broken
215 0,619113 Block 215: 0.6 is broken
218 0,712825 Block 218: 0.7 is broken
221 0,824464 Block 221: 0.8 is broken
226 0,913902 Block 226: 0.9 is broken
229 1,0098 The great symbolic "diff one" is reached on block 229
260 2,05713 Block 260: diff 2
273 3,01339 Block 273: diff 3
284 4,01291 Block 284: diff 4
314 5,02368 Block 314: diff 5
320 6,07584 Block 320: diff 6
325 7,09528 Block 325: diff 7
328 8,00022 Block 328: diff 8
336 9,01646 Block 336: diff 9
345 10,2177 Block 345: diff 10
353 11,2193 Block 353: diff 11! We have yet to come back to this diff
356 12,2017 Block 356: diff 12
358 13,2502 Block 358: diff 13
362 14,0754 Block 362: diff 14
370 15,4477 Block 370: diff 15
371 16,1662 Block 371: diff 16
376 17,0726 Block 376: diff 17
378 18,5404 Block 378: diff 18
379 19,2933 Block 359: diff 19
420 20,1303 Block 420: diff 20
496 6,0221 Block 496: massive dump in diff, from 17 to 6, which means -60% in one block! Probably a very large wallet on several addresses, a.k.a. "whale exiting"
690 21,0347 Block 690: diff 21
706 22,0521 Block 706: diff 22
862 23,3601 Block 862: diff 23
863 24,2132 Block 863: diff 24
867 25,6871 Block 867: diff 25
868 26,8058 Block 868: diff 26
869 27,6449 Block 869: diff 27
870 28,8001 Block 870: diff 28
873 29,8512 Block 873: diff 29
874 30,2447 Block 874: diff 30
879 31,3893 Block 879: diff 31
880 32,7749 Block 880: diff 32
896 33,4743 Block 896: diff 33
897 34,7748 Block 897: diff 34
899 35,0237 Block 899: diff 35
900 36,7779 Block 900: diff 36
930 37,4015 Block 930: diff 37
943 38,4687 Block 943: diff 38
944 39,2126 Block 944: diff 39
945 41,0365 Block 945: diff 41 - straight from 39 to 41
1024 43,0869 Block 1024: diff 43 for this symbolic block
1029 44,797 Block 1029: diff 44
1037 45,2098 Block 1037: diff 45
1042 47,3765 Block 1042: diff 47
1043 49,6646 Block 1043: diff 49
1045 50,2489 Block 1045: diff 50
1079 51,3981 Block 1079: diff 51
1080 52,9775 Block 1080: diff 52
1082 54,08 Block 1082: diff 54 - straight from 52 to 54
1128 55,2783 Block 1128: diff 55
1129 57,5557 Block 1129: diff 57
1130 60,4386 Block 1130: diff 60
1131 61,5054 Block 1131: diff 61
1134 62,1091 Block 1134: diff 62
1143 65,9228 Block 1143: diff 65
1144 68,6388 Block 1144: diff 68
1145 70,5507 Block 1145: diff 70
1146 73,3746 Block 1146: diff 73
1147 74,711 Block 1147: diff 74
1149 76,2412 Block 1149: diff 76
1154 79,7782 Block 1154: diff 79
1156 80,6996 Block 1156: for the first time EIGHTY - and this is the current ATH
The last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time. |
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December 14, 2014, 06:11:43 AM |
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If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it. Source: HYP diffThe last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time. Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff. |
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December 14, 2014, 06:23:27 AM
Last edit: December 14, 2014, 07:15:33 AM by David Latapie |
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If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it. Source: HYP diffThe last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time. Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff. I once again proved to everyone how stupid I am... I will recalculate starting from block 31781.
Block Difficulty Notes
0 0.000244137 Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
31781 0.009388670 First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
33312 0.009421360 First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
33315 0.010084600 The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
33344 0.020335800 Diff 0.02 is broken
33397 0.030417400 Diff 0.03 is broken
34573 0.040048100 Diff 0.04 is broken
35001 0.050303400 Diff 0.05 is broken
35016 0.061330300 Diff 0.06 is broken
35927 0.071156300 Diff 0.07 is broken
35931 0.080601600 Diff 0.08 is broken
35934 0.091189900 Diff 0.09 is broken
43375 0.104294000 The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
45354 0.203308000 Diff 0.2 is broken
45456 0.306284000 Diff 0.3 is broken
49295 0.413530000 Diff 0.4 is broken
62829 0.500084000 Diff 0.5 is broken
64579 0.607988000 Diff 0.6 is broken
66476 0.711131000 Diff 0.7 is broken
68533 0.811710000 Diff 0.8 is broken
76820 0.901754000 Diff 0.9 is broken
77845 1.031510000 The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
94429 2.046340000 Diff 2 is broken
127250 3.062490000 Diff 3 is broken
156051 4.096740000 Diff 4 is broken
158455 5.028010000 Diff 5 is broken
160534 6.031260000 Diff 6 is broken
169825 7.154830000 Diff 8 is broken
169835 9.085750000 Diff 9 is broken
172850 10.210000000 Diff 10 is broken
173045 7.495930000 Latest recorded block
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Block Difficulty Notes
0 0.000244137 Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
31781 0.009388670 First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
33312 0.009421360 First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
33315 0.010084600 The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
33344 0.020335800 Diff 0.02 is broken
33397 0.030417400 Diff 0.03 is broken
34573 0.040048100 Diff 0.04 is broken
35001 0.050303400 Diff 0.05 is broken
35016 0.061330300 Diff 0.06 is broken
35927 0.071156300 Diff 0.07 is broken
35931 0.080601600 Diff 0.08 is broken
35934 0.091189900 Diff 0.09 is broken
43375 0.104294000 The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
45354 0.203308000 Diff 0.2 is broken
45456 0.306284000 Diff 0.3 is broken
49295 0.413530000 Diff 0.4 is broken
62829 0.500084000 Diff 0.5 is broken
64579 0.607988000 Diff 0.6 is broken
66476 0.711131000 Diff 0.7 is broken
68533 0.811710000 Diff 0.8 is broken
76820 0.901754000 Diff 0.9 is broken
77845 1.031510000 The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
94429 2.046340000 Diff 2 is broken
127250 3.062490000 Diff 3 is broken
156051 4.096740000 Diff 4 is broken
158455 5.028010000 Diff 5 is broken
160534 6.031260000 Diff 6 is broken
169825 7.154830000 Diff 8 is broken
169835 9.085750000 Diff 9 is broken
172850 10.210000000 Diff 10 is broken
173045 7.495930000 Latest recorded block
WOW thanks for going through all the work to do this all! This is really cool. It looks like diff really started taking off after the 100k range. |
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If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it. Source: HYP diffThe last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time. Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff. I once again proved to everyone how stupid I am... I will recalculate starting from block 31781.
Block Difficulty Notes
0 0.000244137 Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
31781 0.009388670 First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
33312 0.009421360 First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
33315 0.010084600 The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
33344 0.020335800 Diff 0.02 is broken
33397 0.030417400 Diff 0.03 is broken
34573 0.040048100 Diff 0.04 is broken
35001 0.050303400 Diff 0.05 is broken
35016 0.061330300 Diff 0.06 is broken
35927 0.071156300 Diff 0.07 is broken
35931 0.080601600 Diff 0.08 is broken
35934 0.091189900 Diff 0.09 is broken
43375 0.104294000 The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
45354 0.203308000 Diff 0.2 is broken
45456 0.306284000 Diff 0.3 is broken
49295 0.413530000 Diff 0.4 is broken
62829 0.500084000 Diff 0.5 is broken
64579 0.607988000 Diff 0.6 is broken
66476 0.711131000 Diff 0.7 is broken
68533 0.811710000 Diff 0.8 is broken
76820 0.901754000 Diff 0.9 is broken
77845 1.031510000 The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
94429 2.046340000 Diff 2 is broken
127250 3.062490000 Diff 3 is broken
156051 4.096740000 Diff 4 is broken
158455 5.028010000 Diff 5 is broken
160534 6.031260000 Diff 6 is broken
169825 7.154830000 Diff 8 is broken
169835 9.085750000 Diff 9 is broken
172850 10.210000000 Diff 10 is broken
173045 7.495930000 Latest recorded block
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December 14, 2014, 02:02:00 PM |
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Only those who are doing nothing, aren't making mistakes. It's a golden business rule.
Holy shit I didn't think anyone else used that saying! Words to live by. |
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December 14, 2014, 05:10:34 PM |
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access has been requested to your google doc, seems like it is private at the moment. I will see if i can make up a graph from all the data. |
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December 14, 2014, 05:47:22 PM |
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I'll try  Requested permission  |
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Well, its official.. 2400 blocks are gonna max out... Time to move to 2k..  |
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Hello Everyone. I´ve never posted on here before; I´ve just observed. Should problems with the latest OS X Hyperstake Wallet be reported directly on GitHub? I just want to make sure that I´m not breaching protocol or stepping on anyone´s toes. Thanks in advance!
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December 14, 2014, 09:38:14 PM |
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Well, its official.. 2400 blocks are gonna max out... Time to move to 2k.. I did it 9 days ago. Since I already have 36 block maxed out (and more by the day), I wil start moving my new blocks to 1800. The lower the blocks, the more numerous the block, the faster the diff rise - without even accounting for more HYP being available for more blocks. Expect exponential rise. I also moved the chart to open access, so you will not have to request access anymore, sorry about that. |
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December 14, 2014, 10:17:11 PM |
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Hello Everyone. I´ve never posted on here before; I´ve just observed. Should problems with the latest OS X Hyperstake Wallet be reported directly on GitHub? I just want to make sure that I´m not breaching protocol or stepping on anyone´s toes. Thanks in advance!
Easiest to report it here to be honest. Billotronic builds the Mac wallets for us, and i think there is some known compatability issues with certain OS's. He'll see this post soon enough I am sure.  |
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December 14, 2014, 10:20:52 PM |
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Well, its official.. 2400 blocks are gonna max out... Time to move to 2k.. I did it 9 days ago. Since I already have 36 block maxed out (and more by the day), I wil start moving my new blocks to 1800. The lower the blocks, the more numerous the block, the faster the diff rise - without even accounting for more HYP being available for more blocks. Expect exponential rise. I also moved the chart to open access, so you will not have to request access anymore, sorry about that. One of these days, you guys will be finding out that making the blocks too tiny, will eventually cause them to not stake for over 30 days, at which point they stop gaining weight. With everyone moving to smaller blocks, and with difficulty continuing its rise, it will not be too long before 2K blocks become "to small to stake". We'll all probably get away with it (staking small'ish blocks) for another month or so, but I'm guesstimating that soon enough, we'll stop worrying about hitting the cap, and start worrying about having enough size/weight to stake before reaching 30 days maturity. Personally, my block sizes are anything between 2K ~ 4K at the moment, but by the end of the month I'll be aiming at 3K+ blocks. Interesting times ahead! Happy Staking, |
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December 15, 2014, 01:44:14 AM |
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Hello Everyone. I´ve never posted on here before; I´ve just observed. Should problems with the latest OS X Hyperstake Wallet be reported directly on GitHub? I just want to make sure that I´m not breaching protocol or stepping on anyone´s toes. Thanks in advance!
Easiest to report it here to be honest. Billotronic builds the Mac wallets for us, and i think there is some known compatability issues with certain OS's. He'll see this post soon enough I am sure. Great! Thank you for responding. I figured I´d ask here rather than clog up your Github account.  |
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I'm experiencing problems with wallet version 1.0.7.3 on my Macbook.
I'm running OS X 10.8.5.
The wallet comes up just fine. When I click on any of the other tabs, the program crashes immediately.
I reverted back to version 1.0.3 which is what I started with.
I'm not sure what other information would be helpful. Just let me know.
Thanks!
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December 15, 2014, 06:26:31 AM |
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I'm experiencing problems with wallet version 1.0.7.3 on my Macbook.
I'm running OS X 10.8.5.
The wallet comes up just fine. When I click on any of the other tabs, the program crashes immediately.
I reverted back to version 1.0.3 which is what I started with.
I'm not sure what other information would be helpful. Just let me know.
Thanks!
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December 15, 2014, 04:07:25 PM |
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I'm experiencing problems with wallet version 1.0.7.3 on my Macbook.
I'm running OS X 10.8.5.
The wallet comes up just fine. When I click on any of the other tabs, the program crashes immediately.
I reverted back to version 1.0.3 which is what I started with.
I'm not sure what other information would be helpful. Just let me know.
Thanks!
Get me the crash info and we can take a lookie lou. also, I can damn near always be reached on ##hyperstake on freenode as well... which ever is easiest for you. |
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