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May 22, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
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Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.



Trading BTC since 2010? Proof? Lol

Lol, Smoothie you troll. I guess the 100% correct way to put it would be "HODLing since 2010" I was not actively trading in 2010, just stacking.   Wink

Anyone notice how goat still didn't prove his claim? Lolz

If he was stacking he could prove it. Of course he hasn't and likely won't just like his claim of buying PMs since 2002.  Cheesy

Yes goat I'm a "troll" for asking you to prove your claim. Don't you have any new material? It is getting old calling me a troll.  Grin Grin Grin

BTW how are those "not-for-profit" physical litecoins coming that you claimed we're coming in October, November, December, January....? And now it is may.  

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a bit off topic but it is so odd here, no one is on the road, everyone is at home cuz of the 10 pm curfew. there is no police or army check points but everyone has obeyed.

it is very odd, people in the west would never just obey like this.

WTF: http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/05/09/boston_bombing_lockdown_could_you_have_refused_to_let_police_enter_your.html

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May 22, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
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I was being schooled in the value of gold by gold bug propaganda.


actually, we all need to give miscreanity credit where credit is due.

he's the head master of this altho not alone.  Wink
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May 22, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
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Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.



Trading BTC since 2010? Proof? Lol

Lol, Smoothie you troll. I guess the 100% correct way to put it would be "HODLing since 2010" I was not actively trading in 2010, just stacking.   Wink

Anyone notice how goat still didn't prove his claim? Lolz

If he was stacking he could prove it. Of course he hasn't and likely won't just like his claim of buying PMs since 2002.  Cheesy

Yes goat I'm a "troll" for asking you to prove your claim. Don't you have any new material? It is getting old calling me a troll.  Grin Grin Grin

BTW how are those "not-for-profit" physical litecoins coming that you claimed we're coming in October, November, December, January....? And now it is may.  

lol!  i liked it better when you really were a troll!  Wink Grin
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May 22, 2014, 05:24:41 PM
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Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.



Trading BTC since 2010? Proof? Lol

Lol, Smoothie you troll. I guess the 100% correct way to put it would be "HODLing since 2010" I was not actively trading in 2010, just stacking.   Wink

Anyone notice how goat still didn't prove his claim? Lolz

If he was stacking he could prove it. Of course he hasn't and likely won't just like his claim of buying PMs since 2002.  Cheesy

Yes goat I'm a "troll" for asking you to prove your claim. Don't you have any new material? It is getting old calling me a troll.  Grin Grin Grin

BTW how are those "not-for-profit" physical litecoins coming that you claimed we're coming in October, November, December, January....? And now it is may.  

lol!  i liked it better when you really were a troll!  Wink Grin

Which confirms my guess...the word troll has been so watered down that merely asking a question is trolling. Lolz

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May 22, 2014, 05:27:23 PM
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for the life of me, i never understood why anyone would draw any conclusions for using gold in my avatar, let alone think they've called me out. i'm a known, former gold bug and i still thinks it's pretty.

doesn't mean i think it's a good store of value or currency next to Bitcoin.  it is just a cool looking symbol representing a historical transition.

I thought both arguments had merit, I doubted myself and made a stupid call. (a virtual tip of the scale - LOL in hindsight I think your ego may have defended your avatar or something.)    

Also my judgment was cloudy, An acquaintance had bought a Kruger Rand almost every month for the last 30 year and I felt a little left behind when it came to gold. (my ego called gold's, bubble top in hindsight).  

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May 22, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

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May 22, 2014, 05:32:14 PM
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Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.



Trading BTC since 2010? Proof? Lol

Lol, Smoothie you troll. I guess the 100% correct way to put it would be "HODLing since 2010" I was not actively trading in 2010, just stacking.   Wink

Anyone notice how goat still didn't prove his claim? Lolz

If he was stacking he could prove it. Of course he hasn't and likely won't just like his claim of buying PMs since 2002.  Cheesy

Yes goat I'm a "troll" for asking you to prove your claim. Don't you have any new material? It is getting old calling me a troll.  Grin Grin Grin

BTW how are those "not-for-profit" physical litecoins coming that you claimed we're coming in October, November, December, January....? And now it is may.  

i have never proved i have ever owned gold or ever owned btc/ltc or ever owned a Lamborghini.

you clearly are a troll and the biggest troll on this forum other than matthew n wright.

your one question that has value (and just now asked) is about the physical litecoins. the silver was paid for, the holograms are done, the certificates are done, but the revolutionary thing that would make it counterfeit proof (or highly resistant) has turned out to be a pickle to mint. the idea is sound but to make something that is better than what is out there by miles, and cost effective is not as easy as i once thought. we are working on it, but no, it is not to make myself rich like the other ltc option. i will not gain a cent from it, if it ever works. at best i will cover my investment.

and by the way smoothie, fuck you for always attacking me despite my being open and honest. you are a troll and fuck you if you dont like me calling you what you are. grow up asshole.

 

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May 22, 2014, 05:33:26 PM
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility, hes still dependent on the "miscreanity" gold bug narrative.

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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility, hes still dependent on the "miscreanity" gold bug narrative.

true, but gold bugs using btc is pretty cool Smiley

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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.

i bet a year from now he will be singing a different tune too, but i honestly do not think he knows it yet. i think he might be to the point of, "lets give this a shoot" if he was in btc he would be silent about it until he had all he could buy, then he would be talking about it non stop.

Sorry El Cabron, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.

i bet a year from now he will be singing a different tune too, but i honestly do not think he knows it yet. i think he might be to the point of, "lets give this a shoot" if he was in btc he would be silent about it until he had all he could buy, then he would be talking about it non stop.

but the 180 degree turnaround is so abrupt and so public that the press demands a statement.  so he lies.  if he says he's bullish on accumulating Bitcoin, the price jacks up and that makes his new position much more difficult.
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.

i bet a year from now he will be singing a different tune too, but i honestly do not think he knows it yet. i think he might be to the point of, "lets give this a shoot" if he was in btc he would be silent about it until he had all he could buy, then he would be talking about it non stop.

He is in sales, so he has to sell the narrative.   

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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.

i bet a year from now he will be singing a different tune too, but i honestly do not think he knows it yet. i think he might be to the point of, "lets give this a shoot" if he was in btc he would be silent about it until he had all he could buy, then he would be talking about it non stop.

He is in sales, so he has to sell the narrative.   

He's covering his reputation.  A year from now if BTC fails he'll say "I never recommended it, just accepted it for convenience".  If BTC succeeds his song will be "I've been supporting Bitcoin since early 2013"...
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May 22, 2014, 07:01:22 PM
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Even though PMs may garner some gains in the next 5 years, it will pale in comparison to the valuation crypto has overall in the same timeframe

Peter Schiff doing a 180 is a clear sign of things to come.

he hasn't done a 180, yet, he's just using it as a utility

i bet he's lying about that.

i bet he's had an epiphany and now is trying to accumulate.  the least risky way to do that is to sell a service or a good and i think that's what he's concluded.  his business is ideally set up to do this and i think they realize they need to hedge their previously strident opinion on Bitcoin.

i bet a year from now he'll be singing a different tune.

i bet a year from now he will be singing a different tune too, but i honestly do not think he knows it yet. i think he might be to the point of, "lets give this a shoot" if he was in btc he would be silent about it until he had all he could buy, then he would be talking about it non stop.

He is in sales, so he has to sell the narrative.   

He's covering his reputation.  A year from now if BTC fails he'll say "I never recommended it, just accepted it for convenience".  If BTC succeeds his song will be "I've been supporting Bitcoin since early 2013"...


Exactly this. He might not even have a true opinion as he wins either way.

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A quote from the other forum talking about the coup in Thailand.

Anyway we have food to last us a bit, and gold to get us out if need be. No one is going to take fiat or BTC at the airport if it comes to that.

You can buy anything in the world for BTC. Send me 1000 BTC and I'll charter a private jet and come pick you up. Today is already Bitcoin Pizza Day, so how about tomorrow? We'll call it Bitcoin Rescue Jet Day. The pizzas were 10,000 BTC, so think of this as a real bargain.

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Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.



Trading BTC since 2010? Proof? Lol

Lol, Smoothie you troll. I guess the 100% correct way to put it would be "HODLing since 2010" I was not actively trading in 2010, just stacking.   Wink

Anyone notice how goat still didn't prove his claim? Lolz

If he was stacking he could prove it. Of course he hasn't and likely won't just like his claim of buying PMs since 2002.  Cheesy

Yes goat I'm a "troll" for asking you to prove your claim. Don't you have any new material? It is getting old calling me a troll.  Grin Grin Grin

BTW how are those "not-for-profit" physical litecoins coming that you claimed we're coming in October, November, December, January....? And now it is may.  

i have never proved i have ever owned gold or ever owned btc/ltc or ever owned a Lamborghini.

you clearly are a troll and the biggest troll on this forum other than matthew n wright.

your one question that has value (and just now asked) is about the physical litecoins. the silver was paid for, the holograms are done, the certificates are done, but the revolutionary thing that would make it counterfeit proof (or highly resistant) has turned out to be a pickle to mint. the idea is sound but to make something that is better than what is out there by miles, and cost effective is not as easy as i once thought. we are working on it, but no, it is not to make myself rich like the other ltc option. i will not gain a cent from it, if it ever works. at best i will cover my investment.

and by the way smoothie, fuck you for always attacking me despite my being open and honest. you are a troll and fuck you if you dont like me calling you what you are. grow up asshole.

 

LOL. Looks like I'm not the only one calling you out on your claims.  Roll Eyes

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I have more LTC than gold, silver and every other metal combined.


Now that's nuts. I don't like the multi-decade outlook for PMs, but I don't like the multi-*year* outlook for litecoin. There are no prizes for being 2nd in this race, especially if you offer nothing technically over #1.

But I'm not a trader, so if you have some market-momentum argument, that's fine.

I agree and I am slowly moving some LTC into BTC (and some metals) but my point of making that public was to show people just how bullish I am on crypto. Just cuz I hold gold does not mean I don't like crypto.

Also I do have some LTC cuz if BTC breaks or forks LTC is our best shot. However BTC is looking stronger every day.



yeah sure, your positions always magically change once we appear to be making a definitive turn in direction of the price, like over the last 2 days.  prior to that, you were bad mouthing crypto and pushing metals heavily.

not only that, you like to rewrite history, like that time several months ago when you claimed you were selling metals back in 2011.  no you weren't.  b/c for someone who so often likes to comment about how right they were, you would've been all over this thread back then announcing that fact as this thread was front and center.  instead we only hear about it a few months ago. Roll Eyes


See? ^  Cheesy

All I asked for was proof of your claim. Automatically that makes me a troll.

Honestly I could care less what you call me Goat, even if it is the word "troll". I'm much more thick skinned than that. That's kindergarten stuff. lolz.

Not long ago you made PM purchase and liquidation claims in particular years. I asked you to prove it, and of course you didn't. I was not alone on calling you out on that one and you scurried away really quickly at the first sign of opposition to your claims.

Nothing has changed in this last attempt to get you to prove your claims.

Anyone can type something on a forum on the internet and claim it as "truth".

I hope you finish your physical litecoin that way you can at least do what you say for once and have actual proof you did something.

Oh and concerning your cussing at me....no thanks. Thanks for the offer though, I don't swing that way.  Grin

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LOL, I've never understood why people get into pissing contests in a message board of all places.  WTF do you get out of it?  You'll never see these people IRL unless you specifically make an effort.

If you asked me to prove some huge PM sale in public on the internet of all places, I'd be like "whatever".  You guys chatting about sackloads of silver/gold, lambos, etc. ARE only accessing these forums through TOR or VPN, right?  And be careful about verbal leakage like Missouri, Hawaii, etc...

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LOL, I've never understood why people get into pissing contests in a message board of all places.  WTF do you get out of it?  You'll never see these people IRL unless you specifically make an effort.

If you asked me to prove some huge PM sale in public on the internet of all places, I'd be like "whatever".  You guys chatting about sackloads of silver/gold, lambos, etc. ARE only accessing these forums through TOR or VPN, right?  And be careful about verbal leakage like Missouri, Hawaii, etc...



Since when was the discussion of proof directed at quantity?

To be clear in case you missed it: It was about the principal concept of purchases and liquidations at particular time interval claims.

Since when is a question of proof a pissing contest? We aren't measuring anything here of length. Lol

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