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August 18, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
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I FUCKING HATE CENSORSHIP.  Angry

Yes, but their illiberal terror is the best turbo booster for big blocks.
Either they don't realise it, or they love big blocks.
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August 18, 2015, 02:14:28 PM
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L-M-A-O mods seems to have fun Grin Grin Grin
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August 18, 2015, 02:21:57 PM
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Moderation is getting out of hand.  Moving this thread was a dick move. Theymos Goebbels is pushing his agenda a little too far.

please this is just a forum.. on the other hand the two Capos Gavin and Hearn moving forward with their BS attacking Bitcoin and despite any sign of a consensus is quite breath taking.
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August 18, 2015, 02:22:58 PM
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What....The....Fuck???!!!!!

Is it April 1 already?
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August 18, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
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it must've been Badbear.  he's had it out for me since Nov 2011:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155952.msg12173575#msg12173575
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August 18, 2015, 02:24:48 PM
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Moderation is getting out of hand.  Moving this thread was a dick move. Theymos Goebbels is pushing his agenda a little too far.

please this is just a forum.. on the other hand the two Capos Gavin and Hearn moving forward with their BS attacking Bitcoin and despite any sign of a consensus is quite breath taking.

Its a bad situation.  Devs are holding us and BTC hostage but these recent acts of censorship and moderation go against the ethos of Bitcoin.


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August 18, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Censoring free speech and open debate UP.

If Bitcoin fails one day, this will be the reason why.
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August 18, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
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I was still holding out, and hoping for some peaceful bip 100 or 101 implementation being compromised into Core but this whole disturbing censorship thing has just shown how irrational, illogical and childish one side has become.

The sooner XT gets its 75% majority the better as far as i'm concerned. we could do with forking bitcointalk and /r/bitcoin while were at it.

........ It's maddening.  Sad Sad Sad
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August 18, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
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Cypher on the bright side you're going to get more views in this section.

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August 18, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
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My topic was also moved to the Meta section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155952.msg12173342#msg12173342

Incredible.

My block size speculaction poll still in the Speculation section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154751.0

Incredible ...
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August 18, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
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yep, they're trying to hide this thread.

i posted a new topic thread back over at Speculation just now simply saying the thread was moved with a link here, and it was deleted instantly.

normally when threads get moved, there is a courtesy link left behind informing everyone of that fact so they can follow the move.  no traces of anything like that this time.
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August 18, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
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yep, they're trying to hide this thread.

What part of more traffic in the Alt section is not clear?

In other news, Monero is now on topic here. Smiley
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August 18, 2015, 02:41:25 PM
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Still holding bitcoin for the current and the future Smiley

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August 18, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
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My condolences cypher, this time [nearly] genuine.  

  ~Crumbs

Do not pity him, he is a convicted spammer and also probably a scammer, just look at his trust rate!

lol, nothing further from the truth.

the case is going nowhere.  and even if it does move forward, i fully expect to prevail.
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August 18, 2015, 02:44:15 PM
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Maybe this is a little paranoid, but the next step in escalation would be trying to destroy the pro-XT user community by kicking off all unwanted users from here or somehow getting them banned on reddit (I don't know what reddit is possible in this direction under reddit rules). This is why I posted a GPG key to https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin_uncensored/comments/3hamve/collect_and_publish_digital_identities_of_users/. Is someone collecting digital identities somewhere?

On another note, Peter R., did you have a look at my PMs on reddit?
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August 18, 2015, 03:08:28 PM
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was terrible for me a trader bitcoin. whether with the  bitcoin XT crypto currency will make the world will get better?

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August 18, 2015, 03:11:50 PM
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Can someone please tell me what the problem is with this Bitcoin XT?

Is it a social engineering attack on the Bitcoin network?

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August 18, 2015, 03:21:02 PM
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Can someone please tell me what the problem is with this Bitcoin XT?

Is it a social engineering attack on the Bitcoin network?

See here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155498.0

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August 18, 2015, 03:27:17 PM
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I do think the founders of Blockstream (mostly gmaxwell and adam3us; the perspectives of the others are somewhat less apparent) have (and, importantly, had; see next paragraph) a different vision for how Bitcoin is supposed to work. Different, that is, from most of the community and also from satoshi's public writings (including the white paper).

You already know adam3us's HashCash is One of the Eight Blessed References in Satoshi's Holy Whitepaper.

LOL, let's tell Dr. Backamoto all about "how Bitcoin is supposed to work."

He needs "most of the community" too halp hem lern dat maor gud.   Cheesy

Seriously though, all of this blather about "the community" is starting to sound a little too 'Occupy' for my liking.

Talking about Bitcoin does not make you part of it.

What's next, bloviating about 'stakeholders?'   Roll Eyes


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August 18, 2015, 03:28:31 PM
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Peter R / awemany,

The user-configurable software blocksize limit proposal got me thinking a bit about what features would be best for a full node implementation.

I like to think about individual incentives, what individual actors in a system may be motivated to do, then after extrapolate out to see how these choices would affect the whole system. In fact, the realization that Bitcoin could work in an environment where all the participants follow their individual incentives was what interested me in it in the first place.

So what do I, individually, want in a full node implementation? I am not a miner. I run a full node (on my crappy 6-year-old laptop) because I want to be able to monitor transactions on the Bitcoin network and make sure they are valid. So to be able to best do this, the software should:
1) Keep track of the longest proof-of-work blockchain
2) monitor other branching proof-of-work chains and let me know about them
3) detect what what consensus rules are being followed in any branching proof-of-work chains.

Software that does this would allow an individual to make informed decisions about what transactions they are willing to accept, and help them mitigate the risk of falling out of consensus. It could also possibly enable more sophisticated actions such as speculating between competing blockchain forks.

So if everyone else also followed this behaviour, what would happen? It seems to me that the overall system would end up being more robust, with less risk of accidental blockchain forks, and any forks that do occur resolving quickly to global consensus again.
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