[ANN] Bittrex / Poloniex / Cryptsy All Coin Trading Software, Quatloo Trader.

[Bobsurplus]

Oh boy... One of your trolls is on the Circuits thread talking smack about CIRC while bringing up QTL as a better bot.
Maybe I'm missing something here but I been using the QTL bot for over a year and have always had issues.
Most recent issues s that the bot shuts off after about 10 minutes of trading. Does anyone here have the same issue

Its only fair, there was a circ troll here yesterday ranting about how crappy this bot it and how awesome the circ one will be.

I don't use it for HFT, ARB only for me. Now that he has fixed the qtl balance error it is running like a champ. It still has a few bugs and is still at the whim of the api hosts, but for me its been a consistent earner.

I just read back a bit and now I see how this all started. I dont mess too much with the arb feature but I am HFTing and using a bunch of other tools in the qtl bot as we speak. I been using this bot for what seems like forever but we all know its buggy and after being out for so long there should be no bugs. And for me too qtl has always been a good earner but the times they are a changing.

How do you expect this bot to have no bugs after X amount of time live? It is maintained by one dev who also has a day job. Are you aware that new bugs/exploits are found in windows on a regular basis despite the # of years its been around and the # of programmers/designers/etc that are/were responsible for working on it?

Maybe bugs are found in Windows daily. I dont know but I do know my Windows always works and never shuts down in the middle of the job like my quatloo bot does.

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[Bobsurplus]

Does CIRC actually have a bot?

From what I have gathered from the trolls who make their way in here, a trading bot is being worked on/planned to be integrated into the wallet.
From my initial glance at the ANN for CIRC, it seems a bit over the top and over complicated for what its supposed to do/be. There is also the fact that its a 100% premine, thats enough reason for me to stay away.

It was an ICO. the announcement was up for weeks prior to the coin going on sale. Everyone had a fair chance to enter. Im curious though. What in the OP seemed "over the top for you"
For me everythign mentioned seems very realistic unlike 99% of the other altcoins out there.

That is still a premine. From what I have seen, virtually ALL ICOs/Premines are money grabs by the people launching the coin. A small partial premine I can live with, but 100% premined and then sold to willing fools, I mean investors, is not the way to go, IMO.
Did you read the entirety of the launch ANN? They have talk of the culling, etc. To me thats way over the top and trying to feed on peoples greed and desire to be better than the joneses. Not a good recipe for what they are claiming to be looking to achieve.

I disagree. The culling is being looked forward to by everyone in both of the lounges. its a great twist and a welcomed one by our community. Also, building a cool wallet and a working bot takes money. They raised I think around 25K or so in the ICO and thats barely enough to build the wallet, bots, casino ect. When you get devs who build out their bot for cheap or free you end up with QTL.

Im just saying. You dont need to like the coin or even the bot but they are doing things way different then were used to and the charts show that its more then welcomed.

And what I am saying is that the wording, the "plan" and the premine give me a funny feeling, and not one of those good funny feelings either.
Of course, I am open to anyone that can provide me with a decent arbitrage bot, but I am not one of the masses they are aiming to hook with the culling, etc. I do not need the education on how to read charts or trade markets, look for entry/exit points, etc. Up till now, qtl bot is the only decent bot I have found that will let me arb  at all. Others like haasbot are too expensive and convoluted, even for me, for what they offer. Other bots are HFT only and the couple of devs I contacted about arb had no idea that you could arb without moving funds around or that the APIs let you move funds around via API calls.  Even the devs behind haasbot claimed that they didn't arb the way I wanted because of "security" issues. Markus is the first bot dev I have encountered who actually seems to know enough about markets, security, etc to create a bot that works without any excessive frills or BS. The guys behind haasbot for example clearly lack an understanding of many market dynamics, they claimed that the arb I wanted and that qtl bot provides was not real arbitrage.

As for the pricing. For cheap/free you also get linux and the entire opensource software ecosystem, some or most of which rivals or beats the mainstream expensive counterparts.
I do agree with what others have said, markus really should look at bringing in one or 2 other devs he can work with to help take this to another level. It definitely can be improved upon and he is working towards that. If he brought on some other devs than maybe we could see new exchanges added with a bit more haste, rather than having to wait for him to get around to it.

In short, hit me up when they have an active bot that arbs more exchanges than QTLbot does and I will look at it. It also has to be relatively inexpensive to trial and use, no matter how much money I have to work with, I am not paying for a bot what I could get a house for in the cheapest of markets.

I got ya, ICO's are not for everyone. Mostly they are for the folks who dont mine really but I do understand where you're coming from. Up till now qtl is still the main bot I use and its done me well up till now but we need change and I hear CIRC is bringing that change. As for the abrs I hear you'll have many more options on the CIRC bot then what qtl offers.

Anyway.. I'll come check you once its out and working. The devs are supposed to be releasing the beta bot for testing in the coming days so I assume the full version will follow shortly there after.

[kb4scv]

No issues with Poly or Bittrex API's so far, ran all night and still running now.

[Bobsurplus]

No issues with Poly or Bittrex API's so far, ran all night and still running now.

Well then what are you doing that's different from what I and everyone else complaining about our bots shutting down are doing.

[kb4scv]

Maybe, just testing it out....

Not in your gripefest, just telling what I find, good or bad.  It's called being helpful.  Bitching does no one any good.

[Bobsurplus]

Maybe, just testing it out....

Not in your gripefest, just telling what I find, good or bad.  It's called being helpful.  Bitching does no one any good.

How are you testing it out and running it all night?
anyway,... you look like a troll so ima start ignoring ya.
laterz.

[kb4scv]

Yeah, if you don't read through the forum, I guess you might think that.  However, this is an ongoing discussion.  I said a long time ago on this forum, if you don't like this software, move on.  Plenty more out there.  I am interested in Markus making this better over time, no reason for me to Troll anywhere.  Coins are small change in life.  This is a hobby, not a business for me. 

Anyway, I probably don't understand what a Troll is.  I always thought it was the people that come onto the forum to talk shit about a coin and then leave in a huff.  My mistake, I guess.

Trying to get a nonce error out of Poly and have not gotten one so far on this run for those who really care.

[rdyoung]

Yeah, if you don't read through the forum, I guess you might think that.  However, this is an ongoing discussion.  I said a long time ago on this forum, if you don't like this software, move on.  Plenty more out there.  I am interested in Markus making this better over time, no reason for me to Troll anywhere.  Coins are small change in life.  This is a hobby, not a business for me. 

Anyway, I probably don't understand what a Troll is.  I always thought it was the people that come onto the forum to talk shit about a coin and then leave in a huff.  My mistake, I guess.

Trying to get a nonce error out of Poly and have not gotten one so far on this run for those who really care.

I do continue to have issues with cryptsy and polo but they are intermittent. Its possible its an issue between me and cryptsy, as for the nonce errors, those could be because I am running 2 bots at once. Maybe I need to reboot a vps and run the bot there. It was a pita with the qtl errors, now that its fixed, maybe it will work a bit better.

[kb4scv]

I have several instances up and running now and my program making calls.  Have not gotten any errors at all on QTL or mine.  Still don't use Cryptsy yet though. Don't seem to be getting any of the stoppage there was before, BOT has run continuously since last evening.  

Strange though, I have never gotten errors through my software, but I do get incomplete calls every once in a while.  I have to refresh my software for screen output, but it does not seem to stop the routines.

[rdyoung]

No issues with Poly or Bittrex API's so far, ran all night and still running now.

Well then what are you doing that's different from what I and everyone else complaining about our bots shutting down are doing.

First off, are you running the latest version? Have you posted any errors or bugs here for markus to look into? If the answer to either or both is no, then check back when you do.
I can't speak to the HFT or ping pong, I refuse to HFT for my own reasons, I prefer the safety of the arbitrage. I would consider HFT on a couple of coins if and only if I could find someone to code me an algorithm based on my own trading requirements, I am not in the mood to lose btc to the bot getting into a botwar with others on the exchanges.
I have been running the arb on all 3 options for days now without much issue, aside from the polo nonce errors and cryptsy api which could be something on my end or something between me and the host. I killed 1 of my instances when I installed an update to windows and used that as a window to start using the latest update of the bot and its still going strong.

[rdyoung]

I have several instances up and running now and my program making calls.  Have not gotten any errors at all on QTL or mine.  Still don't use Cryptsy yet though. Don't seem to be getting any of the stoppage there was before, BOT has run continuously since last evening.  

Strange though, I have never gotten errors through my software, but I do get incomplete calls every once in a while.  I have to refresh my software for screen output, but it does not seem to stop the routines.

Like I said, its entirely possible the nonce errors and the cryptsy api issues are something between my and the host or something on my end. I need to run one on a vps again and see if that fixes anything. I should also reconnect my server that is running one of the instances to my switch so its not behind my router, that might improve things a bit.

[rdyoung]

A couple of fresh Feature Requests.

First, would it be possible to set a trade limit for the arb that matches the min trade for polo and bitt? My log is flooded with dust_trade errors because of the 50k sat trade min that those 2 exchanges have in place.

Second, would it be possible to get a running stat on how much btc we have profited in each session or over time? With this, could we get an option to automatically send a % of that earned btc to an outside address? I would love to be able to throw this up on something headless and forget about it, just check in every so often to make sure its still running.

[kb4scv]

I hear you on the trading.  That was the entire reason I started building my own software.

I think I am going to take a crack at an Arb table to see where the trends are.  I think that would be very helpful.  No promises though, like Markus, life intrudes a lot on my time.

As for errors.  At this point, just reporting. If I get em, will post them for Markus.  If not, excellent.

[rdyoung]

I hear you on the trading.  That was the entire reason I started building my own software.

I think I am going to take a crack at an Arb table to see where the trends are.  I think that would be very helpful.  No promises though, like Markus, life intrudes a lot on my time.

As for errors.  At this point, just reporting. If I get em, will post them for Markus.  If not, excellent.

I was using sumif and unique in a sheet to track and total the coins that have been traded the most in my arbitrage. I have considered running another copy of the bot for 24 hours or with every coin that is arbitrageable and use that data to get an idea of what coins provide opportunities the most or any other info that could be gleamed.

[kb4scv]

I kinda hesitated on the software side, since, if I write the routine to track arb, might as well write it to buy/sell it.  Was waiting to see what Markus had coming since he is going to get into the info side of this down the road.  My coding is very slow and tedious!  Very much out of practice.

[rdyoung]

I kinda hesitated on the software side, since, if I write the routine to track arb, might as well write it to buy/sell it.  Was waiting to see what Markus had coming since he is going to get into the info side of this down the road.  My coding is very slow and tedious!  Very much out of practice.

With the arb, I am fine waiting for the info on most things until we have more exchanges and the bot is working as near to flawless as is possible.
I have a sheet that I am using to track the arbitrage for all three current options, will add a 4th when the push api is up and running. This allows me to account for the trade fee on both sides as well as use sumif, unique, etc to get an idea of what coins are currently making me the most money.

[kb4scv]

Still running, no errors and did not stop running overnight.  None of the coins I picked had any arb opportunities greater than one percent, so trader did not make any buy or sells.  Good signs.  

I still cannot open Cryptsy with Trader.  Can get in with other program.  Not sure why it doesn't work with QTL.

edit:  my fault, had changed keys.  Cryptsy working now that dumbass got correct keys in there!

[rdyoung]

Still running, no errors and did not stop running overnight.  None of the coins I picked had any arb opportunities greater than one percent, so trader did not make any buy or sells.  Good signs.  

I still cannot open Cryptsy with Trader.  Can get in with other program.  Not sure why it doesn't work with QTL.

edit:  my fault, had changed keys.  Cryptsy working now that dumbass got correct keys in there!

Why are you using 1% as your trade %? Your missing out on a LOT of trades. I am using .45 for bit/polo and .51 for the rest. You will need to look at cryptsy to see what your highest % fee is and use that to figure out what % is good as a bottom line. Those %'s I am using are breakeven if I get a trade for them, anything above that is profit, true its only a few tenths of a % profit, but it adds up, especially if you compound the btc back into arb coins.

[kb4scv]

At he moment, I am just running to see if it gets errors.  I am going to lower percentage to get some arbs.  Not too concerned about profit just yet.  Still no errors and running two other instances with the ping pong running. 

I did get Cryptsy up.  I have a feeling that the delay on the API is an issue.  It is one of the reasons that I have not gotten into Cryptsy yet with my software.  I could see where that might trip up the program.

Have to put some funds into Cryptsy and see what happens......

[rdyoung]

At he moment, I am just running to see if it gets errors.  I am going to lower percentage to get some arbs.  Not too concerned about profit just yet.  Still no errors and running two other instances with the ping pong running. 

I did get Cryptsy up.  I have a feeling that the delay on the API is an issue.  It is one of the reasons that I have not gotten into Cryptsy yet with my software.  I could see where that might trip up the program.

Have to put some funds into Cryptsy and see what happens......

I am going to see if I can get a custom vps running with vultr again. I had one up and running but killed it because it kept losing connection and killing the bot with the qtl error. Now that the error has been fixed, I think a vps that is closer to the api servers will help. I need to consider moving to a part of the country that has municipal or google fiber.

I have had virtually no issues with the bot since he patched the api issues and the qtl error.