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January 22, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
Last edit: January 22, 2016, 05:31:33 PM by vaxman
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oh yeah, I would be developing if someone would pump the price, but I don't see it happening. For $30 a day hmm, not much interest here.

I might make that fork I keep talking about at some point though.



YES - please fork and let the miners decide which coin to mine.

You are obviously just reaping some idle infrastructure (or the proposed botnet, whatever).
So it is no surprise that you weigh 30$/day mining output against the cost of a full-time developer.

But your math is surprising. Because you (or someone) spend(s) at least 200 $/day;

If build new with _today's_ tech, cost-effective 4.4 PB storage alone will cost no less than 130k$.
Stretched to 2y this is ~178$/day.
It sucks at least 5 kW w/o A/C -> ~120 kWh/day, with a minimum of 0.08 $/kWh -> 10$/day power.
One cannot operate a 130kUSD infrastructure for 30$/day.

You're not the owner, as no sane owner has that rack idle and rents it for the naked energy costs
for the 11 months you're mining here.

Months ago you asked me wether I pay market rates for my 400TB setup; Yes I did. It was off-lease
stuff, hence I had higher energy costs. And exactly that led me to switch most of it off a few weeks ago.
I cannot afford this hobby any longer, unless I move stuff to some remote location in china where
the kWh is 0.03$. In most of Europe it's >>0.20$/kWh.

@devs
Is it possible to see where in the internets bitladens deadlines were injected ?
I traced all wallet connections a few months ago (quite interesting, companies like volumedrive.com),
but was unable to trace the origin of individual miners.

This (his) might be a very interesting or very badly organised employer/company.


@all
oh, and he is gone again since 13 hours ago.. his last stint lasted just under 8hrs.
perhaps stress-testing the diff algo by halving/doubling the network size in shrinking cycles..
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January 22, 2016, 11:26:52 PM
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/84358718/

This is a better use of time than mining this crapcoin.
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January 23, 2016, 05:26:11 AM
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/84358718/

This is a better use of time than mining this crapcoin.

What makes you think BURST is a crapcoin?
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January 23, 2016, 10:19:39 AM
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What makes you think BURST is a crapcoin?


DON'T feed this troll.
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January 23, 2016, 10:44:25 PM
Last edit: January 23, 2016, 10:56:53 PM by bitladen
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oh yeah, I would be developing if someone would pump the price, but I don't see it happening. For $30 a day hmm, not much interest here.

I might make that fork I keep talking about at some point though.



YES - please fork and let the miners decide which coin to mine.

You are obviously just reaping some idle infrastructure (or the proposed botnet, whatever).
So it is no surprise that you weigh 30$/day mining output against the cost of a full-time developer.

But your math is surprising. Because you (or someone) spend(s) at least 200 $/day;

If build new with _today's_ tech, cost-effective 4.4 PB storage alone will cost no less than 130k$.
Stretched to 2y this is ~178$/day.
It sucks at least 5 kW w/o A/C -> ~120 kWh/day, with a minimum of 0.08 $/kWh -> 10$/day power.
One cannot operate a 130kUSD infrastructure for 30$/day.

You're not the owner, as no sane owner has that rack idle and rents it for the naked energy costs
for the 11 months you're mining here.

Months ago you asked me wether I pay market rates for my 400TB setup; Yes I did. It was off-lease
stuff, hence I had higher energy costs. And exactly that led me to switch most of it off a few weeks ago.
I cannot afford this hobby any longer, unless I move stuff to some remote location in china where
the kWh is 0.03$. In most of Europe it's >>0.20$/kWh.

@devs
Is it possible to see where in the internets bitladens deadlines were injected ?
I traced all wallet connections a few months ago (quite interesting, companies like volumedrive.com),
but was unable to trace the origin of individual miners.

This (his) might be a very interesting or very badly organised employer/company.


@all
oh, and he is gone again since 13 hours ago.. his last stint lasted just under 8hrs.
perhaps stress-testing the diff algo by halving/doubling the network size in shrinking cycles..

Good point, but I only have 50% of the PBs in this network.
So, all the same I have to ask, how can the rest of the miners afford to keep mining at this price?

Yes, so 11 months ago you could turn a profit by mining this coin, now, not really. But I'm on it, I will come to the rescue with the fork. And I'll tell you this right now, it will be dual mined. As in, same plots for burst and *burst_fork*

@devs? what devs? you must mean me.
Yes it is possible to determine the IP I'm using to broadcast, however I can assure you this will not change anything.


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January 24, 2016, 12:36:08 AM
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What makes you think BURST is a crapcoin?


DON'T feed this troll.

Trolls always seem to be hungry.  Some I like to feed cause some of them are funny to hear rant.

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January 24, 2016, 01:41:54 AM
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Wasnt this thread closed, and we move on to the new thread?
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January 24, 2016, 04:48:39 AM
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Yes however seems few still use it and others use both.

I always check the other first but if someone replies here then I am forced to reply.  Cant help it.

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January 24, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
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Wasnt this thread closed, and we move on to the new thread?

no this thread is still the only true burstthread.

crowentic made his own burst promote thread to have the coin in the hand and make as much money as possible.

so this is the right burst thread... the other is a private thead of a community member.
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January 24, 2016, 02:40:16 PM
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Wasnt this thread closed, and we move on to the new thread?

no this thread is still the only true burstthread.

crowentic made his own burst promote thread to have the coin in the hand and make as much money as possible.

so this is the right burst thread... the other is a private thead of a community member.


This thread has an OP that we cannot change, so we made a new one, where we *can* change the OP, so the new OP is supposed to be more up to date with relevant links and info. This thread is the original burst thread, the new thread is the current burst thread.

Furthermore the new thread is moderated, or can be moderated so this thread remains in case someone feels overmoderated in the new thread - they always have the ability to post here, without the risk of moderation or cencorship.

Most of the action is in the new thread, but i would guess that most people monitor both threads.

We don't all have to agree what thread to use, i think new users will find the new thread and especially the new OP useful.
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January 25, 2016, 07:32:10 AM
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Wasnt this thread closed, and we move on to the new thread?

no this thread is still the only true burstthread.

crowentic made his own burst promote thread to have the coin in the hand and make as much money as possible.

so this is the right burst thread... the other is a private thead of a community member.


This thread has an OP that we cannot change, so we made a new one, where we *can* change the OP, so the new OP is supposed to be more up to date with relevant links and info. This thread is the original burst thread, the new thread is the current burst thread.

Furthermore the new thread is moderated, or can be moderated so this thread remains in case someone feels overmoderated in the new thread - they always have the ability to post here, without the risk of moderation or cencorship.

Most of the action is in the new thread, but i would guess that most people monitor both threads.

We don't all have to agree what thread to use, i think new users will find the new thread and especially the new OP useful.

@boba

It's very funny how I'm the one wanting all this money, when I'm the one offering services for free and running BURST related stuff that I've paid for out of pocket since inception.

I also fail to see how people coming to a thread that is antequated and contains dead links within the OP, is going to help them figure out that the coin is anything but dead.

Do you actually do any sort of real looking into anything before firing off accusations based on personal feelings? (Feelings which arrived because I pointed out your scam?)

Oh, and one more thing...

If I was such a horrid member of the community, why is it that every "asset" you released, was a horrid attempt at a copy of mine? Then why is it that mine are paying more, and running longer, and more trusted? Just a few things I wanted to note. But go ahead and continue your attempts at slandering me, you should know by now it isn't going to do much. A reputation is built on one's own actions, not on the words of others. As you likely know based upon your own.

Initially, I did have some respect for you, even if you did copy all of my ideas (imitation is sincerest form of flattery, afterall, yes?) but slowly you began to show your true colors, and now you're just making yourself look bad.

Can we move on? Thanks.


@pinball

As usual, thanks for pointing out the truth here, appreciated.



@all

Just to note, I've not moderated really anything in the new thread, and that shouldn't be a worry there at all. The only things that will be taken down are things that are obviously not supposed to be there, and/or blatant defamation or insults. The thread is about BURST, not about how whomever feels about whomever else.


THE CURRENT BURST THREAD is located here, for those wishing to find more up to date information on the coin...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1323657.0;topicseen



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January 25, 2016, 08:30:14 AM
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I read both threads but prefer to stay here. We have nice peace of burst history here it cannot be abandoned.

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January 26, 2016, 05:47:17 AM
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Wasnt this thread closed, and we move on to the new thread?

no this thread is still the only true burstthread.

crowentic made his own burst promote thread to have the coin in the hand and make as much money as possible.

so this is the right burst thread... the other is a private thead of a community member.


This thread has an OP that we cannot change, so we made a new one, where we *can* change the OP, so the new OP is supposed to be more up to date with relevant links and info. This thread is the original burst thread, the new thread is the current burst thread.

Furthermore the new thread is moderated, or can be moderated so this thread remains in case someone feels overmoderated in the new thread - they always have the ability to post here, without the risk of moderation or cencorship.

Most of the action is in the new thread, but i would guess that most people monitor both threads.

We don't all have to agree what thread to use, i think new users will find the new thread and especially the new OP useful.

@boba

It's very funny how I'm the one wanting all this money, when I'm the one offering services for free and running BURST related stuff that I've paid for out of pocket since inception.

I also fail to see how people coming to a thread that is antequated and contains dead links within the OP, is going to help them figure out that the coin is anything but dead.

Do you actually do any sort of real looking into anything before firing off accusations based on personal feelings? (Feelings which arrived because I pointed out your scam?)

Oh, and one more thing...

If I was such a horrid member of the community, why is it that every "asset" you released, was a horrid attempt at a copy of mine? Then why is it that mine are paying more, and running longer, and more trusted? Just a few things I wanted to note. But go ahead and continue your attempts at slandering me, you should know by now it isn't going to do much. A reputation is built on one's own actions, not on the words of others. As you likely know based upon your own.

Initially, I did have some respect for you, even if you did copy all of my ideas (imitation is sincerest form of flattery, afterall, yes?) but slowly you began to show your true colors, and now you're just making yourself look bad.

Can we move on? Thanks.


@pinball

As usual, thanks for pointing out the truth here, appreciated.



@all

Just to note, I've not moderated really anything in the new thread, and that shouldn't be a worry there at all. The only things that will be taken down are things that are obviously not supposed to be there, and/or blatant defamation or insults. The thread is about BURST, not about how whomever feels about whomever else.


THE CURRENT BURST THREAD is located here, for those wishing to find more up to date information on the coin...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1323657.0;topicseen


you are the owner of the thread. so you are the ruler. you are nothing just everybody else here. just a community member.

What makes you think that you can determine here how to proceed with the coin?

so switch to your personal service promotion thread and leave the community here alone crow.
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January 26, 2016, 07:33:29 AM
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I 'determine' nothing, and I never claimed to be anything other than a dedicated member of the community. The thing is, I'm the type that seems to make things happen, would you agree with that? What happened the time when I was on my little hiatus from the forums/coin/project? Anything? What has happened since I have come back? Do we have a new thread with updated links posted? Do we have people actively working on projects? Do we have more than previously? I would have to go with yes on this one.

It isn't my fault that you didn't decide to try to get into the same position, is it?


The thing is, the people in the community respect me because I always ask their opinion on things, and never make decisions without getting approval, that is what makes me liked and respected as a community leader. (which like it or not, I am in a more community leader type position than most, wouldn't you agree? This is by no means saying that I control the coin, I simply took upon myself the position, and people tended to agree with it.)

I am also the one who took the time to write poloniex, getting them to agree to move the main github they watched to the new one that we control once again, allowing for future core development to take place. What did you do? Sit here and complain that no one else was doing things for you?

I don't get the issue here, do you or do  you not support the coin? If me being the one currently having the OP in my name is really an issue with you, is it a big enough issue for you to come here complaining about it on a daily? If so, I find that very sad, man.

I would think we'd all be out for a common goal, and the fact that you seem to think there's something else going on here than just a push for BURST recognition and position within altcoins as a coin that is here to stay, is puzzling.

So please man, please, just stop with this. I don't know what you're hoping to attain with it, but it does nothing but scare away people who would otherwise potentially be interested in starting a project, mining, or investing in something on the BURST chain, or the coin itself. If THIS is your goal, then I'd say  you're doing a great job.

The things you say, though, are only doing damage to your reputation and to the coin. But Yea, I think I will not reply to you anymore here, whether I comment in this thread or not, as I've already wasted far too much time 'feeding the troll' as they say.

I wish you luck with whatever it is you are doing nowadays man, aside from wasting your time attempting to defame character of random people via a public internet location.


But yes, to those who would like to continue to talk in this thread, by all means, until it is locked, and/or if it is, you can do so, as I'm no one to tell anyone anything, but I do suggest that you at least put a watch on the other thread as well, as it will definitely be the place that all NEW information will be posted that is BURST related.

I will come to this thread only to post updates linking to the other thread, regardless of whether one member (or ex member as it were) may think of the new thread's purpose. The reality is, the new thread is exactly what I said it would be, and nothing there has anything to do with anything non coin related.




Speaking of which, I'm going to be posting another update about a potential project in the works, etc... shortly... IN THE NEW BURST THREAD, LOCATED HERE...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1323657.0;topicseen



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January 27, 2016, 10:22:36 PM
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Alright seems fair then, both threads can be active, but I think slowly we should move to the new one. The OP of this thread looks ugly and most links are broken.
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February 01, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
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Spend fortunes on Cpu / Cpu / ASICs and now it's time to spend on HDD:  NVIDIA - AMD - WD - SEAGATE SAMSUNG, TOSHIBA,  etc ... all happy and rich. You, me, ( WE )  in poverty, with dilapidated equipment, spending hours configuring plots, sad.

By the way. What is the value of each "minted" coin?
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February 01, 2016, 02:23:12 PM
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Spend fortunes on Cpu / Cpu / ASICs and now it's time to spend on HDD:  NVIDIA - AMD - WD - SEAGATE SAMSUNG, TOSHIBA,  etc ... all happy and rich. You, me, ( WE )  in poverty, with dilapidated equipment, spending hours configuring plots, sad.

By the way. What is the value of each "minted" coin?


Why did you need to spend HOURS to configure plots? Where did you see any difficulty?
To plot takes a while, but you can already mine, while it is plotting.

Try to go to an exchange (Poloniex, Bittrex) to get an answer!!! - including history graphs.

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February 01, 2016, 02:48:22 PM
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Spend fortunes on Cpu / Cpu / ASICs and now it's time to spend on HDD:  NVIDIA - AMD - WD - SEAGATE SAMSUNG, TOSHIBA,  etc ... all happy and rich. You, me, ( WE )  in poverty, with dilapidated equipment, spending hours configuring plots, sad.

By the way. What is the value of each "minted" coin?


Why did you need to spend HOURS to configure plots? Where did you see any difficulty?
To plot takes a while, but you can already mine, while it is plotting.

Try to go to an exchange (Poloniex, Bittrex) to get an answer!!! - including history graphs.

Plots? Are you serious? I advertise don´t waste your time and money in this project.-
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February 01, 2016, 03:13:24 PM
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Spend fortunes on Cpu / Cpu / ASICs and now it's time to spend on HDD:  NVIDIA - AMD - WD - SEAGATE SAMSUNG, TOSHIBA,  etc ... all happy and rich. You, me, ( WE )  in poverty, with dilapidated equipment, spending hours configuring plots, sad.

By the way. What is the value of each "minted" coin?


Why did you need to spend HOURS to configure plots? Where did you see any difficulty?
To plot takes a while, but you can already mine, while it is plotting.

Try to go to an exchange (Poloniex, Bittrex) to get an answer!!! - including history graphs.

Plots? Are you serious? I advertise don´t waste your time and money in this project.-


I'm sorry, I did not get your point. I do wonder why you spend time to write at all.

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Spend fortunes on Cpu / Cpu / ASICs and now it's time to spend on HDD:  NVIDIA - AMD - WD - SEAGATE SAMSUNG, TOSHIBA,  etc ... all happy and rich. You, me, ( WE )  in poverty, with dilapidated equipment, spending hours configuring plots, sad.

By the way. What is the value of each "minted" coin?


Why did you need to spend HOURS to configure plots? Where did you see any difficulty?
To plot takes a while, but you can already mine, while it is plotting.

Try to go to an exchange (Poloniex, Bittrex) to get an answer!!! - including history graphs.

Plots? Are you serious? I advertise don´t waste your time and money in this project.-


I'm sorry, I did not get your point. I do wonder why you spend time to write at all.


Keep ploting.-
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