[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[FrilledShark]

an android could theoret8cally mine - but disk speed and cpu/gpu calculations determine everything - an android device is not going to be able to process at a competitive rate. On a Windows box, I get processing rates of 300MB/sec - an android won't do that.

H.
 

What kind of setup r u running to get that kind of speed if u don't mind me asking? Is that 300mb/s all drives combined and I'm sure u have a crazy amount of drives?

These r my 4 drives running win7 on a celeron 2.7ghz dual core + 8gb of ram

03:05:28 Thread "F:\Burst\plots\" @ 17.6 sec (13.2 MB/s) CPU 71.57%  <---900gb sata drive
03:05:31 Thread "G:\Burst\plots\" @ 20.3 sec (11.4 MB/s) CPU 60.76%  <---900gb sata drive in a usb docking station
03:05:40 Thread "D:\Burst\plots\" @ 29.1 sec (16.0 MB/s) CPU 74.92%  <---1.8tb sata drive
03:05:43 Thread "E:\Burst\plots\" @ 32.4 sec (16.3 MB/s) CPU 69.40%   <---2.1tb sata drive

I just used the plotter from the burst wallet windows client as I was new and it was easy to do with whatever the default settings were and now using blago miner 1.151009

If you use GPU miner you will get a faster read time.

[haitch]

an android could theoret8cally mine - but disk speed and cpu/gpu calculations determine everything - an android device is not going to be able to process at a competitive rate. On a Windows box, I get processing rates of 300MB/sec - an android won't do that.

H.
 

What kind of setup r u running to get that kind of speed if u don't mind me asking? Is that 300mb/s all drives combined and I'm sure u have a crazy amount of drives?

These r my 4 drives running win7 on a celeron 2.7ghz dual core + 8gb of ram

03:05:28 Thread "F:\Burst\plots\" @ 17.6 sec (13.2 MB/s) CPU 71.57%  <---900gb sata drive
03:05:31 Thread "G:\Burst\plots\" @ 20.3 sec (11.4 MB/s) CPU 60.76%  <---900gb sata drive in a usb docking station
03:05:40 Thread "D:\Burst\plots\" @ 29.1 sec (16.0 MB/s) CPU 74.92%  <---1.8tb sata drive
03:05:43 Thread "E:\Burst\plots\" @ 32.4 sec (16.3 MB/s) CPU 69.40%   <---2.1tb sata drive

I just used the plotter from the burst wallet windows client as I was new and it was easy to do with whatever the default settings were and now using blago miner 1.151009

If you use GPU miner you will get a faster read time.

As FrilledShark said, that's using Luxe's GPU miner. It's 10 SATA drives being mined in parallel.

2015-11-05 06:11:36.198  INFO 7608 --- [  readerPool-21] burstcoin.jminer.CommandLineRunner       : 67% done (24TB 192GB), eff.read '309 MB/s'
2015-11-05 06:11:39.657  INFO 7608 --- [  readerPool-29] burstcoin.jminer.CommandLineRunner       : 78% done (28TB 256GB), eff.read '308 MB/s'

H.

[Blago]

What kind of setup r u running to get that kind of speed if u don't mind me asking? Is that 300mb/s all drives combined and I'm sure u have a crazy amount of drives?

These r my 4 drives running win7 on a celeron 2.7ghz dual core + 8gb of ram

03:05:28 Thread "F:\Burst\plots\" @ 17.6 sec (13.2 MB/s) CPU 71.57%  <---900gb sata drive
03:05:31 Thread "G:\Burst\plots\" @ 20.3 sec (11.4 MB/s) CPU 60.76%  <---900gb sata drive in a usb docking station
03:05:40 Thread "D:\Burst\plots\" @ 29.1 sec (16.0 MB/s) CPU 74.92%  <---1.8tb sata drive
03:05:43 Thread "E:\Burst\plots\" @ 32.4 sec (16.3 MB/s) CPU 69.40%   <---2.1tb sata drive

I just used the plotter from the burst wallet windows client as I was new and it was easy to do with whatever the default settings were and now using blago miner 1.151009

(0.9+0.9+1.8+2.1)Tb * 1024*1024 / 4096 / 32.4 sec = 45 MB/sec summary speed

*** 4096 = read one scoop from 4096

for me, 6 cores, 11 drives: 18707 Gb @ 43 sec  => 108.7 MB/sec

@Cobra98, did you try "F:\Burst\plots\+"G:\Burst\plots\" ?

[Cobra98]

What kind of setup r u running to get that kind of speed if u don't mind me asking? Is that 300mb/s all drives combined and I'm sure u have a crazy amount of drives?

These r my 4 drives running win7 on a celeron 2.7ghz dual core + 8gb of ram

03:05:28 Thread "F:\Burst\plots\" @ 17.6 sec (13.2 MB/s) CPU 71.57%  <---900gb sata drive
03:05:31 Thread "G:\Burst\plots\" @ 20.3 sec (11.4 MB/s) CPU 60.76%  <---900gb sata drive in a usb docking station
03:05:40 Thread "D:\Burst\plots\" @ 29.1 sec (16.0 MB/s) CPU 74.92%  <---1.8tb sata drive
03:05:43 Thread "E:\Burst\plots\" @ 32.4 sec (16.3 MB/s) CPU 69.40%   <---2.1tb sata drive

I just used the plotter from the burst wallet windows client as I was new and it was easy to do with whatever the default settings were and now using blago miner 1.151009

(0.9+0.9+1.8+2.1)Tb * 1024*1024 / 4096 / 32.4 sec = 45 MB/sec summary speed

*** 4096 = read one scoop from 4096

for me, 6 cores, 11 drives: 18707 Gb @ 43 sec  => 108.7 MB/sec

@Cobra98, did you try "F:\Burst\plots\+"G:\Burst\plots\" ?

Thank you, got a few extra mb/s from that! I'm still trying to get the java miner to work. I have a separate computer setup just for burst mining and for some reason the wallet won't open. I keep getting java errors but I have 8 installed, getting frustrated 



10:58:32 Thread "D:\Burst\plots" @ 26.1 sec (17.7 MB/s) CPU 73.65%
10:58:36 Thread "E:\Burst\plots" @ 30.5 sec (17.3 MB/s) CPU 69.33%
10:58:36 Thread "F:\Burst\plots+G:\Burst\plots" @ 30.8 sec (15.1 MB/s) CPU 63.6%

[BurstIncomeAsset]

I cannot share this logic!!!

It sounds like, BURST price is so low, lower it is not possible, so there is no other chance to increase!!!

It is already going back up. So there is demand for BURST.

Thus, it's the inflation that is pushing it lower, as miners dump their BURST.

So we need to concentrate to get a bigger demand for BURST.

[BurstIncomeAsset]

Marketing Project:

I have created a marketing fund:

17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY
https://blockchain.info/address/17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY

This fund will be used to buy advertisements for BURST, which I will credit tonight with Bitcoins. The objective is to promote BURST since the demand has shrunk a little bit in the last weeks. BURST needs a shakeup and new members, a bigger and stronger community.

We hope to raise the number of posters in this thread, the number of miners, the number of BURST buyers, and thus the price, and eventually make BURST a big and strong altcoin.


Yes, BURST can make it, so if in the next days more people will post here and the price will suddenly start to go up, we can say that the marketing campaign was successful!

Let's do this!

[RawCrypto]

So I am pretty new to CPU mining and Burst mining. How are the two related? From what I understand burst mining uses your HDD and CPU mining uses your processor.

So if I am CPU mining a cryptonote coin why would mining bust effect my hash rate? Does burst somehow effect your CPU as well? Obviously I lack some crucial understanding....could someone help me out? Thanks

[RawCrypto]

Marketing Project:

I have created a marketing fund:

17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY
https://blockchain.info/address/17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY

This fund will be used to buy advertisements for BURST, which I will credit tonight with Bitcoins. The objective is to promote BURST since the demand has shrunk a little bit in the last weeks. BURST needs a shakeup and new members, a bigger and stronger community.

We hope to raise the number of posters in this thread, the number of miners, the number of BURST buyers, and thus the price, and eventually make BURST a big and strong altcoin.


Yes, BURST can make it, so if in the next days more people will post here and the price will suddenly start to go up, we can say that the marketing campaign was successful!

Let's do this!

Pretty cool to see this type of enthusiasm, but maybe the timing for something like this is off? With bitcoin rising and literally every alt coin bleeding out I think it would be hard to raise any awareness.

I have always thought that if a community is going to raise funds it would be better to raise funds to pay for a unique development to the coins usability rather than a marketing campaign. Just my 2 cents, nothing personal of course.

On a side note I really like this coin and don't think it will go away, been buying for a while now.

[notabeliever]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

[notabeliever]

Marketing Project:

I have created a marketing fund:

17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY
https://blockchain.info/address/17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY

This fund will be used to buy advertisements for BURST, which I will credit tonight with Bitcoins. The objective is to promote BURST since the demand has shrunk a little bit in the last weeks. BURST needs a shakeup and new members, a bigger and stronger community.

We hope to raise the number of posters in this thread, the number of miners, the number of BURST buyers, and thus the price, and eventually make BURST a big and strong altcoin.


Yes, BURST can make it, so if in the next days more people will post here and the price will suddenly start to go up, we can say that the marketing campaign was successful!

Let's do this!

I agree no need to market just make it easier and friendly. Ethereum I think is easier ofcourse not sure about the coin

Pretty cool to see this type of enthusiasm, but maybe the timing for something like this is off? With bitcoin rising and literally every alt coin bleeding out I think it would be hard to raise any awareness.

I have always thought that if a community is going to raise funds it would be better to raise funds to pay for a unique development to the coins usability rather than a marketing campaign. Just my 2 cents, nothing personal of course.

On a side note I really like this coin and don't think it will go away, been buying for a while now.

[equipoise]

So I am pretty new to CPU mining and Burst mining. How are the two related? From what I understand burst mining uses your HDD and CPU mining uses your processor.

So if I am CPU mining a cryptonote coin why would mining bust effect my hash rate? Does burst somehow effect your CPU as well? Obviously I lack some crucial understanding....could someone help me out? Thanks

It depends on your configuration. Before you begin mining you should plot your HDD and this takes 100% CPU. For a lot of TB plotting could take quite some time. Then you'll need some CPU once each 4 minutes. On many processors it's better to mine cryptonote only on half the cores (or even less). Mining BURST shouldn't bother if this is the case and you only mine with 1 or 2 HDDs.

[haitch]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

There's a GPU plotter that is MUCH faster - https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/gpu-plot-generator.45/ and also allows plotting multiple plot files simultaneously.

Lets say you have a plot: c:\5860130482017119184_220000000_409600_16384

you then image c: -> D:\, so now you have D:\5860130482017119184_220000000_409600_16384

When you mine the two files, each contains the same identical nonces. Each plot file contains unique nonces - making a copy of it isn't going to help you. The two files identically overlap.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

The nonces the plotter creates in the plot file are based off of your id and the starting nonce number - changing the name of the file won't change the contents of the file. If you have 4 * 2TB drives, you have to plot all 4 drives - imaging or copying won't work.

[haitch]

So I am pretty new to CPU mining and Burst mining. How are the two related? From what I understand burst mining uses your HDD and CPU mining uses your processor.

So if I am CPU mining a cryptonote coin why would mining bust effect my hash rate? Does burst somehow effect your CPU as well? Obviously I lack some crucial understanding....could someone help me out? Thanks

When you're mining Burst it also uses your CPU (using Blago's or the Java miner) or GPU (Using Luxe's GPU miner). I presume you're using a CPU miner, so every four minutes or so, it's getting hit hard to Burst mine, then goes back to Cryptonote mining. I'd suggest you swap over to using the GPU miner, it'll impact your Cryptonote mining a lot less.

https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/ann-burstcoin-jminer-gpu-assisted-poc-miner.842/

H.

[stacey2911]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your copying your nonces across multiple hdd's, and mining them all, yes? BURST doesn't work like this. Copying the nonces means your going to read the same data twice, and that you have two or more copies of the same nonces, and less unique nonces means less hashpower. You need to individually plot each hdd with different nonces, ie: different plot files

[BurstIncomeAsset]

Pretty cool to see this type of enthusiasm, but maybe the timing for something like this is off? With bitcoin rising and literally every alt coin bleeding out I think it would be hard to raise any awareness.

I have always thought that if a community is going to raise funds it would be better to raise funds to pay for a unique development to the coins usability rather than a marketing campaign. Just my 2 cents, nothing personal of course.

On a side note I really like this coin and don't think it will go away, been buying for a while now.

Actually I think now is the time to promote it, because since BTC being strong, people can buy more BURST with their money.

So now is the perfect time to invest in BURST and raise awareness.

I`ll do the first part of the campaign in a few hours, regardless. Then if people want to donate BTC do it to the address for further promotions:

17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY
https://blockchain.info/address/17GPDdHiXthrwrLVmw7x9p3FdGzeQwWmcY

[BurstIncomeAsset]

The marketing campaign hasnt even started yet and we already see some increased activity in this thread, thats a good step atleast!

The campaign will start in a few hours after my transactions go through, yea it takes a lot of time to transfer altcoins. So stay tuned.

[NjcFamily31907]

Can anyone point me to a Mac Guide For getting Started With BurstCoin and BurstCoin Mining

[notabeliever]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your copying your nonces across multiple hdd's, and mining them all, yes? BURST doesn't work like this. Copying the nonces means your going to read the same data twice, and that you have two or more copies of the same nonces, and less unique nonces means less hashpower. You need to individually plot each hdd with different nonces, ie: different plot files

Plotting takes too long. Yes I take a couple good plots and copy them to a new drive. However I successfully renumber those starting numbers and check using the overlap tool. I always use Blago and Jminer however. The new jminer revision might of corrupted the correctly plotted 8TB hard drive.  I also mined over them with the miner that we weren't supposed to use with these plots. They are all bad. Tell me which one and I'll delete it.

Doesn't everyone agree plotting is time consuming. Is it because I have  a dual core machine and not a quad? I can  upgrade to Q9650

[haitch]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your copying your nonces across multiple hdd's, and mining them all, yes? BURST doesn't work like this. Copying the nonces means your going to read the same data twice, and that you have two or more copies of the same nonces, and less unique nonces means less hashpower. You need to individually plot each hdd with different nonces, ie: different plot files

Plotting takes too long. Yes I take a couple good plots and copy them to a new drive. However I successfully renumber those starting numbers and check using the overlap tool. I always use Blago and Jminer however. The new jminer revision might of corrupted the correctly plotted 8TB hard drive.  I also mined over them with the miner that we weren't supposed to use with these plots. They are all bad. Tell me which one and I'll delete it.

Doesn't everyone agree plotting is time consuming. Is it because I have  a dual core machine and not a quad? I can  upgrade to Q9650

Renaming the files does not change the contents - and it's the contents you're mining with. Renaming the files will just make the contents seem corrupted.

Plotting takes time, you just have to live with it. I didn't plot 100TB overnight - it took weeks, but if you're going to mine burst, you have to invest the time to do it properly.

You need to plot each and every GB - use the GPU plotter, it's so much faster than the CPU plotter.

[stacey2911]

Another idea came to mind.....

Say I create 3 plot files and use one instance of Blago miner on Drive C.

Then use fastcopy and copy them to Drive D
Without changing the file names, nonces etc I run a second instance of blago miner.

running the same named files separately can't overlap right. They are on different drives even though they are named the same they are used with separate running blagominer

All the copied instances will find the same "best" nonce from your plot files - your x min y secs nonce from plot one will not improve on the x min y sec identical nonce from plot two. There is no "cheating" the system, the space you make available to unique nonces is your mining capacity - there is no beating the system.

H.
 

Not cheating the system in fact its a pain to make plot files. Using wplotgenerator I made them for 4 days on a 8gb drive and they are crap.
Waiting 3 -4 days for a plot common. If I have a 2tb drive filled with good plots then I'm going to image it to another drive and not change the numbers. Much faster.

I can you be right about a unique nonce when I created 4 500gb plots all the same file size , a different number anyone can change.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your copying your nonces across multiple hdd's, and mining them all, yes? BURST doesn't work like this. Copying the nonces means your going to read the same data twice, and that you have two or more copies of the same nonces, and less unique nonces means less hashpower. You need to individually plot each hdd with different nonces, ie: different plot files

Plotting takes too long. Yes I take a couple good plots and copy them to a new drive. However I successfully renumber those starting numbers and check using the overlap tool. I always use Blago and Jminer however. The new jminer revision might of corrupted the correctly plotted 8TB hard drive.  I also mined over them with the miner that we weren't supposed to use with these plots. They are all bad. Tell me which one and I'll delete it.

Doesn't everyone agree plotting is time consuming. Is it because I have  a dual core machine and not a quad? I can  upgrade to Q9650

As Haitch stated, changing the names does not change the contents, and you are mining the contents, not the name.

But yes, an old core2duo will take a very long time to generate plots, as that is a very weak cpu by todays standards. It took me slightly under 4 days to plot 16TB with a 4.5Ghz i5 4690k, as all I else I had was an Nvidia 560Ti, and my cpu could generate plots faster then my gpu could using opencl. So I would estimate that it would take a week or more to plot the same space using any core2duo cpu, even overclocked considerably, as I know what those old beasts were like.