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Also the bible and the god from the bible can be scientifically proven to be wrong. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errorsMost notable errors, the age of the earth and the universe. The fact that we have: A. Over 450 English versions of the bible B. All are translated using different methods and from entirely different manuscripts C. Thousands of manuscripts disagreeing with each other wildly in what verses and even books they contain, and how those verses read. You would think the bible, being the only word of god would be kept intact or something. The flood, proven to be a total hoax. The hundreds of ridiculous laws and contradictions and more. The problem with this thinking is in the numbers. Before the printing press, there were only a handful of copies of any scientific work except a few of the better ones, like Aristotle. In addition, there were only a few copies of any religion other than Christianity. But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press. Today, copies of the Bible - especially the N.T. - outnumber any other book or manuscript by at least 2 to 1. Starting to seem like science is the weaker of the religions. It doesn't have to do with odds. It is the Spirit of God getting His Word around to the peoples of the world. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 12, 2018, 10:33:43 PM |
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Also the bible and the god from the bible can be scientifically proven to be wrong. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errorsMost notable errors, the age of the earth and the universe. The fact that we have: A. Over 450 English versions of the bible B. All are translated using different methods and from entirely different manuscripts C. Thousands of manuscripts disagreeing with each other wildly in what verses and even books they contain, and how those verses read. You would think the bible, being the only word of god would be kept intact or something. The flood, proven to be a total hoax. The hundreds of ridiculous laws and contradictions and more. The problem with this thinking is in the numbers. Before the printing press, there were only a handful of copies of any scientific work except a few of the better ones, like Aristotle. In addition, there were only a few copies of any religion other than Christianity. But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press. Today, copies of the Bible - especially the N.T. - outnumber any other book or manuscript by at least 2 to 1. Starting to seem like science is the weaker of the religions. It doesn't have to do with odds. It is the Spirit of God getting His Word around to the peoples of the world. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The problem is that the flood is proven to be a hoax, the age of the earth and universe do not match the bible, at all and the other contradictions just prove it even further, god from the bible is scientifically proven to be a hoax.
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October 13, 2018, 01:46:11 AM |
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But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press.
Hand copied meant mistakes and cultural differences sneaked in with each generation, like evolution. How many generations of the bible were written before the printing press eliminated errors? 50% of the bible could be mistakes. 500 pages and still no proof. This thread is BD's legacy I suppose.
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October 13, 2018, 09:06:40 AM |
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Scientific proof will not prove that God exists, because it cannot and would not possibly comprehend or explain it completely! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 09:23:44 AM |
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Scientific proof will not prove that God exists, because it cannot and would not possibly comprehend or explain it completely! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) For some strange reason that I could not explain, I agree!
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October 13, 2018, 10:03:02 AM |
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It is believed that God is outside of time and space. Therefore, to prove its existence is quite difficult. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 10:26:29 AM |
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Do you think it is possible to scientifically substantiate the connection between the human soul and his physical body?
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October 13, 2018, 11:18:48 AM |
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At present, science can't explain Spirituality. That is the belief of each person and me that God is real.
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October 13, 2018, 03:20:08 PM |
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Scientific proof will not prove that God exists, because it cannot and would not possibly comprehend or explain it completely! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) What is empty space? What is nothingness? What objectively is nothing, and what is it made of? We material beings recognize material things. We even recognize energy. We can objectively analyze these things to some extent. But we can't seem to analyze nothing objectively. Yet nothing fills all the space between the subatomic particles of the atoms, and between the planets of outer space. Since we can't analyze nothing because it is so foreign to us, and because we can't grab hold of it and place it under our microscope to examine it, how do we know that the thing that we call nothing even exists? Don't we know that nothing exists by measuring certain aspects of the relationships between things that we DO understand... material things? For example. There is something between Mars and Earth. We can determine this by recognizing distance and size relationships between these two planets. What is the something that is between these two planets. Well, there is nothing there? So, the something is nothing, even though we don't really have a handle on what nothing is... even though we can't grab hold of nothing and analyze it. Yet we know it is there because we can measure the relationships between many thing that exist within this nothing. Same with God. We can't grab hold of God and put Him under a microscope. But because of the actions of physics in the universe, we can know that He exists, even though we can't scientifically objectively understand anything about Him. The fact that cause and effect, entropy, and complexity exist in our universe the way they do, proves that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 03:33:15 PM |
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But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press.
Hand copied meant mistakes and cultural differences sneaked in with each generation, like evolution. How many generations of the bible were written before the printing press eliminated errors? 50% of the bible could be mistakes. 500 pages and still no proof. This thread is BD's legacy I suppose. Isaiah and other Bible books in the Dead Sea Scrolls show us that the only Bible differences over more than 2,000 years were the gradual changes in the shapes of the letters that make up the Hebrew language. The Hebrew people are/were probably the most meticulous people in the world. They copied the Bible exactly, because they knew that it was the Word of God, and that it was their duty under His commands to not change it. You have heard of the infamous 666 number from the Revelation. Well, a few years ago, an archeologist found a copy of the of the Revelation while digging in an ancient Hebrew garbage pit. In this Revelation, the 666 number was written 616. For a while a bunch of scholars thought that here might be a correct writing and understanding of the 666 number... at least until it was pointed out to them that this copy was found in the dump... where it was thrown because the scribe made a mistake in copying it, and tossed it out, and started over. That is how meticulous the Hebrew scribes were. All that writing by hand, and he had to throw it out because of a simple "jerk" of his pen that turned the middle 6 into a 1. 500 pages and still all kinds of proof that God exists... and all kinds of proof that Vod is ignorant and/or deceptive. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 03:37:20 PM |
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The problem with this thinking is in the numbers. Before the printing press, there were only a handful of copies of any scientific work except a few of the better ones, like Aristotle. In addition, there were only a few copies of any religion other than Christianity. But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press. Today, copies of the Bible - especially the N.T. - outnumber any other book or manuscript by at least 2 to 1. Starting to seem like science is the weaker of the religions. It doesn't have to do with odds. It is the Spirit of God getting His Word around to the peoples of the world. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The problem is that the flood is proven to be a hoax, the age of the earth and universe do not match the bible, at all and the other contradictions just prove it even further, god from the bible is scientifically proven to be a hoax. There is no proof that the Great Flood of Noah's day didn't happen. There is no proof that the standard, accepted age of the universe is anything near correct. There are no contradictions in the Bible... although there might be many things that we don't understand, clearly. The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 13, 2018, 07:20:14 PM |
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The problem with this thinking is in the numbers. Before the printing press, there were only a handful of copies of any scientific work except a few of the better ones, like Aristotle. In addition, there were only a few copies of any religion other than Christianity. But there are well over 25,000 hand copies of the New Testament from before the printing press. Today, copies of the Bible - especially the N.T. - outnumber any other book or manuscript by at least 2 to 1. Starting to seem like science is the weaker of the religions. It doesn't have to do with odds. It is the Spirit of God getting His Word around to the peoples of the world. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The problem is that the flood is proven to be a hoax, the age of the earth and universe do not match the bible, at all and the other contradictions just prove it even further, god from the bible is scientifically proven to be a hoax. There is no proof that the Great Flood of Noah's day didn't happen. There is no proof that the standard, accepted age of the universe is anything near correct. There are no contradictions in the Bible... although there might be many things that we don't understand, clearly. The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Of course there is: Age of the earth: https://www.space.com/24854-how-old-is-earth.htmlhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_EarthAge of the universe: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/04/29/how-do-we-know-the-age-of-the-universe/#473db16a6155https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universeThis is scientific proof, accepted by virtually all scientists, if this is not proof, I don't know what is. There is also plenty of evidence that the flood didn't happen, in fact no history book talks about it anywhere. https://www.csicop.org/si/show/twenty-one_reasons_noahs_worldwide_flood_never_happenedhttps://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood
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October 13, 2018, 07:59:38 PM |
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The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist.
Then why was the bible written at least 80 years after this god died? Five + generations of people forget about this god, then suddenly many people remember in great detail. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The bible is a work of fiction.
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can anyone believe in science all time. more and more new theories have come to world with making false previous theories. People are thinking always scientific reason for every thing, but can every incident in world explain by science. I think finding proof for Gods doesn't important believe is important.
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October 16, 2018, 02:16:02 AM |
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The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist.
Then why was the bible written at least 80 years after this god died? Five + generations of people forget about this god, then suddenly many people remember in great detail. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The bible is a work of fiction. God didn't die. People like you simply focused away from God, so He revealed Himself over and over, again and again so that some of them could be saved. The Bible is the greatest truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 16, 2018, 10:45:40 AM |
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The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist.
Then why was the bible written at least 80 years after this god died? Five + generations of people forget about this god, then suddenly many people remember in great detail. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The bible is a work of fiction. God didn't die. People like you simply focused away from God, so He revealed Himself over and over, again and again so that some of them could be saved. The Bible is the greatest truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Proved scientifically that the bible is false ^^ ^^^
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October 16, 2018, 03:36:02 PM |
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The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist.
Then why was the bible written at least 80 years after this god died? Five + generations of people forget about this god, then suddenly many people remember in great detail. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The bible is a work of fiction. God didn't die. People like you simply focused away from God, so He revealed Himself over and over, again and again so that some of them could be saved. The Bible is the greatest truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Proved scientifically that the bible is false ^^ ^^^ Thank you for acknowledging that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 16, 2018, 05:21:50 PM |
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The God that the Bible is referring to is the God of the universe that science has proven to exist.
Then why was the bible written at least 80 years after this god died? Five + generations of people forget about this god, then suddenly many people remember in great detail. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The bible is a work of fiction. God didn't die. People like you simply focused away from God, so He revealed Himself over and over, again and again so that some of them could be saved. The Bible is the greatest truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Proved scientifically that the bible is false ^^ ^^^ Thank you for acknowledging that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) By ignoring the scientific evidence you are acknowledging that the bible is a hoax, thank you for that. Age of the earth: https://www.space.com/24854-how-old-is-earth.htmlhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_EarthAge of the universe: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/04/29/how-do-we-know-the-age-of-the-universe/#473db16a6155https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universeThis is scientific proof, accepted by virtually all scientists, if this is not proof, I don't know what is. There is also plenty of evidence that the flood didn't happen, in fact no history book talks about it anywhere. https://www.csicop.org/si/show/twenty-one_reasons_noahs_worldwide_flood_never_happenedhttps://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_floodRip badecker.
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October 16, 2018, 06:46:54 PM |
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Everything that BADecker thinks and types is based off the bible. The bible has been proven to not be about a man that died in 0AD. Everything in the bible is a lie. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I think that the question is very interesting and i am interested in reading as many opinions as possible.
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