Scientific proof that God exists?

[BADecker]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

[MFahad]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

[playboy654]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

But we don't have any proof for that.

If humans has judgement day then what will be the situation of other living organisms? Ant and cockroach have the same?

[BADecker]

^^^ Humans are different than all other life on Earth (excluding such things as aliens and angels, if such exist here). We are the only life that is aware that it is aware of its self-awareness... and can attempt to analyze our self-awareness.

God made us in His image. Names over the thousands of years, have been mostly given to describe something that the name means. It might be an event in nature. It might be a desire that the parents wish for their child to carry out in life. But God's main name is and means "I AM."

God's name means self-awareness awareness to who knows how many levels. People are the only "animals" sentient enough to have this kind of self-awareness, even if it is only to one level. We were made in the image of God, and the basics of this image is pure self-awareness awareness.

[Astargath]

^^^ Oh, dear. I don't think that I used any premises at all. Maybe we are talking different languages.

I repeat, you said, Cause and effect, complexity and machine makers prove god, the rebuttal is that it doesn't prove god, if we agree that all of them are right, it only proves that a being or beings that are more complex than the universe created the universe, it doesn't prove your god.

[MFahad]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

But we don't have any proof for that.

If humans has judgement day then what will be the situation of other living organisms? Ant and cockroach have the same?

What Proof?
Most of the things are here in our world which we can't see, Just like anyone give me slap and i said him that i have a pain then definitely he will ask where is pain, i can't see Pain, So we can't see God but he is exists.
Only human being and giants are answerable in front of God, not insects and other organisms. 

[Astargath]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

But we don't have any proof for that.

If humans has judgement day then what will be the situation of other living organisms? Ant and cockroach have the same?

What Proof?
Most of the things are here in our world which we can't see, Just like anyone give me slap and i said him that i have a pain then definitely he will ask where is pain, i can't see Pain, So we can't see God but he is exists.
Only human being and giants are answerable in front of God, not insects and other organisms. 

Fallacious argument. We cant see pain but we can measure it, test it, feel it. Just like oxygen or anything else that we cant see. There is still plenty of evidence of pain, not so much of god

[ttcsalam]

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101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

 Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

God is there and he is controlling everything. The greatest proof of this is death of man. If a man thinks deeply alone, then he can get his answer.

[BADecker]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

But we don't have any proof for that.

If humans has judgement day then what will be the situation of other living organisms? Ant and cockroach have the same?

What Proof?
Most of the things are here in our world which we can't see, Just like anyone give me slap and i said him that i have a pain then definitely he will ask where is pain, i can't see Pain, So we can't see God but he is exists.
Only human being and giants are answerable in front of God, not insects and other organisms. 

Fallacious argument. We cant see pain but we can measure it, test it, feel it. Just like oxygen or anything else that we cant see. There is still plenty of evidence of pain, not so much of god

The fact that you can use simplicity in such a complex way proves that there is a God. Focusing on the god that you are trying to be by eliminating the God that exists, is proof of God.

Complex machines have complex makers. This is evident in all of our machines... all of which have been taken from the much more complex machine of the universe Maker.

The fact that this evidence is overwhelming is proof the God not only exists, but is allowing you to diminish yourself to the point of pure simplicity... even though it takes extreme complexity to make this you-simplicity in our complex universe.

[akram143]

I don't trust the god is exist but definitely something is there in this world to control everything like nature and the oceans so that I believe in god otherwise you cannot say god is controlling everything and we need to trust it because we are live in this world it is also nature.

[Astargath]

^^^ Stuff on which your position in eternity hinges, is always at least a little interesting.

I read most of the views, i can't understand why people not rely on God, it is not difficult to believe on One God. Also we should believe on the day and that is Judgement Day, God will punish those people who didn't believe him.
So in this world it is our exam, we should search about God, if anyone doubt on it. And then believe on him before the judgement day, when you have no answer.   

But we don't have any proof for that.

If humans has judgement day then what will be the situation of other living organisms? Ant and cockroach have the same?

What Proof?
Most of the things are here in our world which we can't see, Just like anyone give me slap and i said him that i have a pain then definitely he will ask where is pain, i can't see Pain, So we can't see God but he is exists.
Only human being and giants are answerable in front of God, not insects and other organisms. 

Fallacious argument. We cant see pain but we can measure it, test it, feel it. Just like oxygen or anything else that we cant see. There is still plenty of evidence of pain, not so much of god

The fact that you can use simplicity in such a complex way proves that there is a God. Focusing on the god that you are trying to be by eliminating the God that exists, is proof of God.

Complex machines have complex makers. This is evident in all of our machines... all of which have been taken from the much more complex machine of the universe Maker.

The fact that this evidence is overwhelming is proof the God not only exists, but is allowing you to diminish yourself to the point of pure simplicity... even though it takes extreme complexity to make this you-simplicity in our complex universe.

''Complex machines have complex makers.'' So you admit the universe has makerS with an S, right? Why do you keep claiming it was god then?

[BADecker]

^^^ Is that all you can come up with? Don't you think that some of the machines we make are complex enough that they have complex makers - some of us?

Remember the corporation. It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.

Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one? We can see the God-part in science's calculations of nature. But can we see more than one God?

[Astargath]

^^^ Is that all you can come up with? Don't you think that some of the machines we make are complex enough that they have complex makers - some of us?

Remember the corporation. It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.

Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one? We can see the God-part in science's calculations of nature. But can we see more than one God?

'' It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.'' Right, so? It's still many members, isn't it? You again just admitted that it's made of many members just like the creators of the universe could be many members not just one, like you claim.

''Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one?'' Do you have evidence that it's just one? Your argument does NOT show it's only a creator, it shows the possibility of multiple creators.

[MFahad]

^^^ Is that all you can come up with? Don't you think that some of the machines we make are complex enough that they have complex makers - some of us?

Remember the corporation. It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.

Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one? We can see the God-part in science's calculations of nature. But can we see more than one God?

'' It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.'' Right, so? It's still many members, isn't it? You again just admitted that it's made of many members just like the creators of the universe could be many members not just one, like you claim.

''Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one?'' Do you have evidence that it's just one? Your argument does NOT show it's only a creator, it shows the possibility of multiple creators.

No, it doesn't show of multiple creators. Remember, God is only one, every kingdom has only one King and in his kingdom most of the matters or arguments are here, but King is only one.
Actually, the problem is when anyone has decided that he will no agree on it that God is here or he is one, or some proof then we can give proof because his heart will no agree it.

[BADecker]

^^^ Is that all you can come up with? Don't you think that some of the machines we make are complex enough that they have complex makers - some of us?

Remember the corporation. It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.

Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one? We can see the God-part in science's calculations of nature. But can we see more than one God?

'' It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.'' Right, so? It's still many members, isn't it? You again just admitted that it's made of many members just like the creators of the universe could be many members not just one, like you claim.

''Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one?'' Do you have evidence that it's just one? Your argument does NOT show it's only a creator, it shows the possibility of multiple creators.

Not at all. In the case of God, all we see is the corporation. The only present scientific evidence we have is One.

However, if we accept the Bible, then we see that the corporation is made up of three. The difference between God and our corporation is that God can be the corporation if only one of His persons is present, because one of the persons is all God... or two of them, or all three. How this works is not easily understandable. But then, the universe and life are barely understandable.

Accepting the Bible scientifically is a matter for a different thread. But that can be shown, as well... that the Bible is scientifically accurate, although the method for doing so is indirect.

[Astargath]

^^^ Is that all you can come up with? Don't you think that some of the machines we make are complex enough that they have complex makers - some of us?

Remember the corporation. It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.

Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one? We can see the God-part in science's calculations of nature. But can we see more than one God?

'' It's one corporation that makes the cars, even though it is made up of many members.'' Right, so? It's still many members, isn't it? You again just admitted that it's made of many members just like the creators of the universe could be many members not just one, like you claim.

''Do you have any scientific proof or evidence that God is more than one?'' Do you have evidence that it's just one? Your argument does NOT show it's only a creator, it shows the possibility of multiple creators.

Not at all. In the case of God, all we see is the corporation. The only present scientific evidence we have is One.

However, if we accept the Bible, then we see that the corporation is made up of three. The difference between God and our corporation is that God can be the corporation if only one of His persons is present, because one of the persons is all God... or two of them, or all three. How this works is not easily understandable. But then, the universe and life are barely understandable.

Accepting the Bible scientifically is a matter for a different thread. But that can be shown, as well... that the Bible is scientifically accurate, although the method for doing so is indirect.

''The only present scientific evidence we have is One.''  Where is that present scientific evidence exactly? Certainly not in your argument, where in complexity, cause and effect or machines have makers is it? I don't see it.

[whirlcoin]

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Please share your opinion about this article.


101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

 Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

I think there is no proof available for the existence of god so you cannot see it clearly the god is available in this world but we need to trust that something is there in this world up on us.

[BADecker]

''The only present scientific evidence we have is One.''  Where is that present scientific evidence exactly? Certainly not in your argument, where in complexity, cause and effect or machines have makers is it? I don't see it.

You know the answer to this. In the billions of things that we have measured in the universe, there has never been one instance that anything ever made itself. So, the universe was made.

Since the universe was made, the maker had to be outside of the universe.

We know nothing about outside-the-universe except that it exists. We don't know if it has 3 parts or countless trillions. All it is to us is one... one outside-the-universe.

Even Hawking in his silly Big Bang agrees with this.

[Astargath]

''The only present scientific evidence we have is One.''  Where is that present scientific evidence exactly? Certainly not in your argument, where in complexity, cause and effect or machines have makers is it? I don't see it.

You know the answer to this. In the billions of things that we have measured in the universe, there has never been one instance that anything ever made itself. So, the universe was made.

Since the universe was made, the maker had to be outside of the universe.

We know nothing about outside-the-universe except that it exists. We don't know if it has 3 parts or countless trillions. All it is to us is one... one outside-the-universe.

Even Hawking in his silly Big Bang agrees with this.

''All it is to us is one... one outside-the-universe.'' That doesn't mean anything, a group is one but made of many members which are not ''one''. Since we know nothing about the 'outside the universe' why do you claim the universe was created by god? We also don't know that 'outside the universe' even exists, unless you have some evidence no one knows about.

[BADecker]

''All it is to us is one... one outside-the-universe.'' That doesn't mean anything, a group is one but made of many members which are not ''one''. Since we know nothing about the 'outside the universe' why do you claim the universe was created by god? We also don't know that 'outside the universe' even exists, unless you have some evidence no one knows about.

It might not mean anything to you. But then, lots of stuff doesn't mean anything to you. Since all we see is one, it is one... at least until we find that it is not one.

As for God creating the universe, you can do one of two things:
1. Find a normal, average person - or even a genius - who can create a universe like our universe. This will show that the universe is not created by a god or even God;
2. If you can't find #1, or anyone who is close to #1, "God" fits the Creator by description and definition.

I already repeated several times that nothing creates itself. Blab about it all you want, but can you show anything different? It doesn't even makes sense - isn't even logical - that something can create itself when none of it was there to do the creating. Therefore the universe didn't create itself.

So, what created the universe? Something that was outside the universe - at least by universe understanding. This Something, as we have shown, fits our description/definition of "God."


You act like someone who has been checkmated and is unwilling to accept the fact.