[XMR] Monero Speculation

[HalFinneysBrain]

Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

I tried to play the game today.  I registered an account, and then couldnt even figure out how to do anything.  I can click on different spaces in the land, andthen there is nothing else I can figure out how to do.  My character has no stats or money, and there is no tutorial or anything telling me how to do anything, and no chat to ask for help.

I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players.

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Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

I tried to play the game today.  I registered an account, and then couldnt even figure out how to do anything.  I can click on different spaces in the land, andthen there is nothing else I can figure out how to do.  My character has no stats or money, and there is no tutorial or anything telling me how to do anything, and no chat to ask for help.

I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players.

Please take your (valid, IMO) feedback to the Crypto Kingdom thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0

Hopefully there it can reach the people most involved with the game and in the best position to address the concerns you raised.

[rpietila]

I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players.

Please take your (valid, IMO) feedback to the Crypto Kingdom thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0

Hopefully there it can reach the people most involved with the game and in the best position to address the concerns you raised.

Yeah. Please start from reading the thread, at least skim it through. It'll only take 2 hours and will make you much better versed in CK history and current play! The game is not shallow, and while we are in the process of adding ingame helps and Wiki, the game thread still is the most definitive resource

BUT, since I am the gamemaster (having access to your stats) and the King (willing to give liberally of my own), your WISH has been granted.

You have been gifted the following items:
- 100*VEG vegetables are good for food
- 100*BEER obviously for drink
- 100*CAN this brings wisdom

And some luxuries:
- 2*FOIE delicious and potent food
- 2*W1600M at least 21 years old healthy and precious wine

Since it's no fun to play without money, I decided to give 3 years (21 realdays') salary worth of money - 2,100,000 m. It is not that much in the outside world, only about $1, but in the game it buys you a lot of stuff, collectibles or consumables.

And a "lucky coin" 1*CS1621E after your starting year. It is not rare but the silver content is valued at about 800,000 m.

The Town has entry-level housing and is giving for free to those who need it (I managed one for you, Needle Lane 29 in 4-C-R3). The stone unit is 16 sqm and has a rooftop terrace as well. To be qualified, you need to be in level L3 Beginner, so this was arranged as well. This house might fetch 6-8 mil in the open market once the free distribution ends.

What you should do in the game right away is to familiarize yourself with health challenge (in the thread). Then you need a suit, for which there is a section in the Agora. Also log in to the game IRC channel in freenode (##crypto-kingdom) because most gameplaying happens there, only the commands are executed in Ultima platform. Getting to know the commands is of course the key to do anything.

Well, after 14 months of playing you may end up in the situation of our current Mayor, HH TMA Blessed Heroic Duke of North Face, TA Viscount of Forte Spagnolo, 2nd/I Bt of CK, Mayor, Councillor, CEO of TMA Grand Hotel & FluffyPony Horse Corp, AOK-S, RT-K, AOD-LTC, OD-K, KH, GJB, FBB, TB, KFB, HB: he is managing the Town, his vast household, fiefs, and corporations and the account is worth 50,000 XMR at liquidation value only.

He is glad to help, "SirJacket" in the IRC if you end up in there. I'd be happy to see you as well

[kazuki49]

Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

[Shrikez]

looking bullish to me right now. Orderbook is fattening close to market bids.

92 BTC to 100 k on the bid side, while the same 92 would bring it to 175 k.

[Kramerc]

Guys, I'm very happy with the 0.9 release. Complete blockchain sync in around 18h on my 7 year old laptop.

[GreekBitcoin]

looking bullish to me right now. Orderbook is fattening close to market bids.

92 BTC to 100 k on the bid side, while the same 92 would bring it to 175 k.

But where are those 500-600BTC that existed like 1+ year ago? And volumes of 1000+ BTC...

Right now the only exchange monero is actually being traded is Poloniex. And the limits and credential requirements probably killed volume there...
And we still dont have a serious exchange for fiat. I would be trading 10 times more if there was a fiat/xmr exchange...

[Hueristic]

...I would be trading 10 times more if there was a fiat/xmr exchange...

Hear Hear!

[wpalczynski]

looking bullish to me right now. Orderbook is fattening close to market bids.

92 BTC to 100 k on the bid side, while the same 92 would bring it to 175 k.

But where are those 500-600BTC that existed like 1+ year ago? And volumes of 1000+ BTC...

Right now the only exchange monero is actually being traded is Poloniex. And the limits and credential requirements probably killed volume there...
And we still dont have a serious exchange for fiat. I would be trading 10 times more if there was a fiat/xmr exchange...

If we could only somehow get onto BTC-E........

[digicoin]

Yes, it is a miracle if XMR is listed at btc-e

[birr]

Right now the only exchange monero is actually being traded is Poloniex

Bittrex still lists Monero.

[GreekBitcoin]

Right now the only exchange monero is actually being traded is Poloniex

Bittrex still lists Monero.

Tiny volume...

[wpalczynski]

Yes, it is a miracle if XMR is listed at btc-e

It will eventually, its only a matter of time!!  Obviously the sooner the better.

[papa_lazzarou]

 If the coin survives 200 years but only scales to 58 million units, dilution is the least of everyone's concern.

Actually, that would be 58 000 000 000 000 000 000 (trillion?? quadrillion??) units as Monero's current denomination has 12 decimal places.
Even if you wanted Monero cents you'd still have some breathing space left.

[Hueristic]

 If the coin survives 200 years but only scales to 58 million units, dilution is the least of everyone's concern.

Actually, that would be 58 000 000 000 000 000 000 (trillion?? quadrillion??) units as Monero's current denomination has 12 decimal places.
Even if you wanted Monero cents you'd still have some breathing space left.

That'll teach you to use the "units" designation!

[thelibertycap]

Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

Until the GUI is done, the Official marketing schedule is limited to scoping and planning.

Of course informal word-of-mouth stuff shall proceed apace, especially now the DB is done and the RAM req is reduced to <100MB.

Who says so and why?
With 0.9 unofficial GUIs should be quite alright - is there any problem I don't know about that is addressed by the official fancy GUI?
I expect marketing an altcoin among those thousand altcoins to be a tough job anyway and it could see it's results only gradually. People not familiar with Bitcointalk would hardly invest anyway. 
No need to be hasty but be reasonable, keeping momentum.
Waiting for perfection and a big pump seems fishy.
Steep emission of coins and slow code development (improving a bad code is a though job) made quite a big damage already.

Btw, the website still sucks big time if we strive for perfection..

[dEBRUYNE]

Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

Until the GUI is done, the Official marketing schedule is limited to scoping and planning.

Of course informal word-of-mouth stuff shall proceed apace, especially now the DB is done and the RAM req is reduced to <100MB.

Who says so and why?
With 0.9 unofficial GUIs should be quite alright - is there any problem I don't know about that is addressed by the official fancy GUI?
I expect marketing an altcoin among those thousand altcoins to be a tough job anyway and it could see it's results only gradually. People not familiar with Bitcointalk would hardly invest anyway.  
No need to be hasty but be reasonable, keeping momentum.
Waiting for perfection and a big pump seems fishy.
Steep emission of coins and slow code development (improving a bad code is a though job) made quite a big damage already.

Btw, the website still sucks big time if we strive for perfection..

Simply because people prefer an official fancy GUI over a third party GUI in the altcoin atmosphere. Also agree that keeping momentum is important.

You know it is open source right? You can make a pull-request to adjust it to the way you like. I agree the website could be better and Rias also gave some proper feedback on how to improve it. However, most contributers don't have that much time and voluntary spend their spare time on working on Monero and I rather have them doing that on more important stuff than the website currently.

[thelibertycap]

Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

Until the GUI is done, the Official marketing schedule is limited to scoping and planning.

Of course informal word-of-mouth stuff shall proceed apace, especially now the DB is done and the RAM req is reduced to <100MB.

Who says so and why?
With 0.9 unofficial GUIs should be quite alright - is there any problem I don't know about that is addressed by the official fancy GUI?
I expect marketing an altcoin among those thousand altcoins to be a tough job anyway and it could see it's results only gradually. People not familiar with Bitcointalk would hardly invest anyway.  
No need to be hasty but be reasonable, keeping momentum.
Waiting for perfection and a big pump seems fishy.
Steep emission of coins and slow code development (improving a bad code is a though job) made quite a big damage already.

Btw, the website still sucks big time if we strive for perfection..

Simply because people prefer an official fancy GUI over a third party GUI in the altcoin atmosphere. Also agree that keeping momentum is important.

You know it is open source right? You can make a pull-request to adjust it to the way you like. I agree the website could be better and Rias also gave some proper feedback on how to improve it. However, most contributers don't have that much time and voluntary spend their spare time on working on Monero and I rather have them doing that on more important stuff than the website currently.

There is much more to building a website than a couple of pull requests with incremental changes - without a holistic vision and prior thorough discussion about the ideas in the community how to present Monero.
I bet a fund rasing at getmonero would be uber successful. But again, there is much more to this than giving money to someone to scribble something, put the same old logo on top and write some code in javascript to make things interactive.

We don't want to end like the Linux on the desktop did, right?

[dEBRUYNE]

http://www.coindesk.com/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-takes-trade-engine-offline/

[rjclarke2000]

http://www.coindesk.com/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-takes-trade-engine-offline/

I was wondering when that would happen