[XMR] Monero Speculation

[TrueCryptonaire]

Lol, if you try to avoid Israeli inventions you basically need to move to the cave. You are probably using computer that has many Israeli inventions inside.

You miss the point.  It's not a boycott of genocide.  It's avoiding a honeypot.

That was not the point. The point is they are known to be the best in sciences (around 30 % of Nobel Laureates are Israelis). Basically anything that the civilized world is using is invented by the Israelis. Therefore, why a crypto invented and developed the very same people would be somehow worse...? When it comes to speculation and making money (which is the theme in this thread), it doesn't so much matter if there are some backdoors for someone. Even Monero crypto is breakable for sure. I am not saying it is easily done but nothing in this world is perfect, nothing. Not even Trezor cold storage for bitcoins.

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[dEBRUYNE]

Why is the viewkey able to track incoming transactions, but not outgoing transactions?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4yl43y/why_is_the_viewkey_able_to_track_incoming/

[TrueCryptonaire]

For $25 (with a $75 coupon) AdWords estimates I can get 50,000 clicks out of 1,500,000 impressions for this, on my keyword mix:

Preview
Anonymous bitcoin: Monero - Private, secure, and fungible
Ad www.weuse.cash
Don't expose yourself to criminals extortionists thieves. Protect your privacy.

Page
http://weuse.cash/2016/06/09/btc-xmr-zcash/

Never having used it, I am not so sure of their numbers.  Anyhow, just a thought.

Adwords with appropriate keywords is a decent method of advertising but it is also, like any marketing, a long term process that need commitment for a few years to bear the fruit.

[aminorex]

I suspect that many impressions would pay me back personally within a matter of days, if it were easy to buy XMR with fiat.  As it is, not so much.

[phishead]

Social media such as Youtube is definetely the way to attract the large masses, perhaps also traditional blogs as well (from the blogs more sophisticated people are attracted because those people tend to love reading).

If you think about it, though, who are going to be the people who are watching/reading that stuff in the first place? It's only going to be a very small percentage of people who are currently paying attention or are interested in cryptocurrencies in the first place which is an even smaller percentage in regards to the human population.  The people who watch that have probably already have gotten wind of Monero in some form and if they haven't gotten into Monero then, they probably won't get in now if some random guy, who doesn't have that much influence to begin with, says some nice words about Monero. 

Especially not 200 xmr or ~400 usd; but I mean everyone is free to do what they want with their money, but I for one won't be contributing to such things when we could be helping fund our devs for other stuff to be done/help support their salaries, which is already below what is normal for the skill set they bring to the table.

[Dotto]

What the h*ll is happening with Darkcoin? Its market cap is almost 100 million usd...

I suggest do a XMR collect, send it to Amanda B Johnsons in a multisign fashion and release it to her only when she pumps it to the stratosphere.

Let´s brainstorm the details

Actually I like the idea.
Just raising bounty for Monero marketing for 3 years.
200 XMR/day for pumping would be released.
It costs 219 000 XMR all together, and probably it will be bringing tons of new blood into the community.
It can be indeed Amanda B Johnson or someone else. I do not really care but the important thing is that the word gets out.

200/day  seems a bit too much. We are looking for a truly believer, not a mercenary. 50/day during lets say 6 months, coinciding with the feb dates is, I think, more than enought. 2-3 videopodcast per week. I really like the Amanda profile, as she knows enought about crypto cogs  and she has a nice flow in the communication department. Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMamUypjrZ0

I think 6 months is way too short period... In the beginning it takes time people even find the vids, after the follower base is somewhat decent it takes also time for people to adapt a new paradigm. For smarter people it takes less time than the average people. However, I think 6 months is way too short period of time.

Social media such as Youtube is definetely the way to attract the large masses, perhaps also traditional blogs as well (from the blogs more sophisticated people are attracted because those people tend to love reading).

The reason Dash, with that crappy tech has this marketcap advantage is purely public relationship.

I know there´s some kind of groupthought that says that we better wait until the GUI is ready. Well, is almost ready.

I also feel like some are too ego driven to even think in PR this project. No. That´s not how this world works. Our tech is the best. Our tech is the better thing for the people to know and use and obviously it´s a win/win situation for hodlers and newcomers.

A banner or some kind of commintment with Brian Armstrong could be cool. What another people do you think could be interesting to integrate in the cause?. Dont be shy, lets brainstorm, your "silly" ideas could be transformend by another user in a spot on idea that makes the difference.

I would love to see the pink cadillac of Risto with a XMR license plate. It´s so deligthful visual.

[Dotto]

Thrash needs advertising, gold doesn't - it just needs to be discovered and the army of gold diggers will follow.
Monero has excellent web wallet for almost two years and it doesn't even have a faucet, yet most people on this thread are acting like vacuum cleaner salesman. Instead of spreading awareness (faucets, blogs, etc ...) they are following the DASHoles way (even suggesting to use same PR as them), whats next - worshiping the holy vending machine or dragging in your friends & family to build a bigger ponzi pyramid?
If you really love your Monero bag then there's no need for aggressive advertising campaign cos that would mean you only want to get rid of it @higher price possible.
Here's a boner for all of you that think advertising will bring financial freedom to the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jemqAtxKyAo

PS
Just wrote to Faucetbox support asking about possibility of adding Monero, ready to chip in 100XMR to make it real, hope they'll answer soon

True.

Wishful thinking. Get real. Look at Beta/VHS. If you don´t do the 'dirty' job because you are too special and golden to get your hands dirty, you´ll lose your lunch

[aminorex]

Meanwhile I see a pretty massive bull flag on the XMRBTC chart.

[Dotto]

If those AdWords estimates hold up, for 50 XMR per diem, burning 4 intro accounts daily we would get 200,000 hits on we.use.cash, and 6,000,000 people each day being exposed to Monero as private secure and fungible.  I think that might shake things up a bit.  Need a few weeks of GUI burn-in first, though.

To me sounds great

[Dotto]

Social media such as Youtube is definetely the way to attract the large masses, perhaps also traditional blogs as well (from the blogs more sophisticated people are attracted because those people tend to love reading).

If you think about it, though, who are going to be the people who are watching/reading that stuff in the first place? It's only going to be a very small percentage of people who are currently paying attention or are interested in cryptocurrencies in the first place which is an even smaller percentage in regards to the human population.  The people who watch that have probably already have gotten wind of Monero in some form and if they haven't gotten into Monero then, they probably won't get in now if some random guy, who doesn't have that much influence to begin with, says some nice words about Monero.  

Especially not 200 xmr or ~400 usd; but I mean everyone is free to do what they want with their money, but I for one won't be contributing to such things when we could be helping fund our devs for other stuff to be done/help support their salaries, which is already below what is normal for the skill set they bring to the table.

I think you are right. Devs deserve more. I also think that the PR strategy is a win/win situation for hodlers, devs and newcomers. Developing both ideas, or more, I think, is the way to go. Later, everyone would fund (or not) the most resonating projects for everyone. This way we are giving oportunities to act and grow

[aminorex]

Meanwhile I see a pretty massive bull flag on the XMRBTC chart.

...and breakout.

[aminorex]

I think you are right. Devs deserve more. I also think that the PR strategy is a win/win situation for hodlers, devs and newcomers. Developing both ideas, or more, I think, is the way to go. Later, everyone would fund (or not) the most resonating projects for everyone. This way we are giving oportunities to act and grow

*This*.

No one loses from XMR discovering its value.  The more fiat we burn, the better it is for everyone on the planet, and when large holders are flush with value, they will much more abundantly fund development, and distribute XMR much more broadly in the process.  XMR is tracing out bitcoin's precedents, but having learned from its mistakes.  Were the environment not so much more competitive and hostile, it would be seeing much greater success than ever bitcoin did.

[aminorex]

Welp, there I go again.  My book is all bids now.  Good luck my little bids... Try not to chase anything up the mountain!

[nioc]

Is now a good time to buy XMR or do you guys think it will come down some and offer a better entry.

I would wait till it comes down to at least 0.003, but I'm pretty much always wrong...

Not.


You have made some astute calls that I ignored in the past, because hope.

  Still, FOMO  

It be FOMO.

If I was buying I wouldn't do it by waiting for the price to come down   

As has been discussed here things are so different now on so many levels compared to the past.

[nioc]

Welp, there I go again.  My book is all bids now.  Good luck my little bids... Try not to chase anything up the mountain!

Good luck

Thanks for all the fish

[Febo]

Meanwhile I see a pretty massive bull flag on the XMRBTC chart.

Ofcourse. Monero community for the first time started to talk about Marketing.


Marketing are not only clicks on adds. But we can save a whale from evil Japanese Whale hunters and whole world will write how Monero save it.  But i guess that might be a bit to expensive. 
But if that happens I am sure no one in Monero community will say that those who organized it did wrong since Gold dont need any proactivity that people see its shine.

[phishead]

Welp, there I go again.  My book is all bids now.  Good luck my little bids... Try not to chase anything up the mountain!

Good luck

Thanks for all the fish

No problem   

[Anon136]

Meanwhile I see a pretty massive bull flag on the XMRBTC chart.

Ofcourse. Monero community for the first time started to talk about Marketing.


Marketing are not only clicks on adds. But we can save a whale from evil Japanese Whale hunters and whole world will write how Monero save it.  But i guess that might be a bit to expensive. 
But if that happens I am sure no one in Monero community will say that those who organized it did wrong since Gold dont need any proactivity that people see its shine.

wait what. how can we save a whale?

[Hueristic]

I would have, maybe naively, thought that the keyword was "military", rather than "Israeli"...

I suppose I would be less worried about the Vatican military's crypto subversion prowess, though, I admit.

LOl, Rite!

[ibuyltc]

Ofcourse. Monero community for the first time started to talk about Marketing.

Marketing are not only clicks on adds. But we can save a whale from evil Japanese Whale hunters and whole world will write how Monero save it.  But i guess that might be a bit to expensive. 
But if that happens I am sure no one in Monero community will say that those who organized it did wrong since Gold dont need any proactivity that people see its shine.

wait what. how can we save a whale?

Sounds like sponsoring Sea Shepard...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycyCfK14axw