firetreeactual
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September 25, 2016, 05:31:12 PM |
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I saw this at least twice here: several days of poor luck => pool hashrate drop (obviously newcomers who figured out that during past few days other pools performed better) => blocks and green stats tab. more blocks with 40-42 Ph/s than with 47+.... that's odd ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) My comment was not related to relative pool performance...just that we'd dropped around 6PH in a few days, and it would be nice to have it back. I sometimes need baseless excuses to make otherwise purely wise-ass comments. I maybe shoulda hadda oughta gone into politics. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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dance191
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September 25, 2016, 05:45:15 PM |
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Block by dance191! This is his 15th Kano block and our 5th of the day! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ahhhh yeah, making it rain!!!
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citronick
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September 25, 2016, 06:52:53 PM |
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I saw this at least twice here: several days of poor luck => pool hashrate drop (obviously newcomers who figured out that during past few days other pools performed better) => blocks and green stats tab. more blocks with 40-42 Ph/s than with 47+.... that's odd ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) 40PH (last time I checked) ... we already have 5 in the bag. Not bad at all - this pool's luck. PPLNS -- pool luck is key, and so far when we hit those red blocks... the pool always comes back strongly... and it doesnt depend on the big iron miners, 1PH and above.... in fact several small miners have delivered the goods in this past few days Miss those 11 blocks parties though...
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PantminerS7
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September 26, 2016, 02:57:03 AM |
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If you can't sleep, the silver lining is that you can watch blocks!
dance191.S7152 just hit block 431548 for 12.6 BTC!
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dance191
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September 26, 2016, 03:26:27 AM |
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Block by dance191! This is his 15th Kano block and our 5th of the day! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ahhhh yeah, making it rain!!! Back to back, making it storm!!!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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kano (OP)
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September 26, 2016, 08:35:08 AM |
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Block by kmpmine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) (and another almost ~4.5 hours ago by maverik)
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Newko
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September 26, 2016, 10:05:04 AM |
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5 blocks yesterday and woke up to 3 this morning! Not a bad start to the week ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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clgrissom3
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September 26, 2016, 12:29:49 PM |
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5 blocks yesterday and woke up to 3 this morning! Not a bad start to the week ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I just love waking up to a block party, can't wait to see how the rest of the day goes! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 26, 2016, 01:46:35 PM |
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sweet! I just moved my kmp machines back! crazy that an s7 found the block and not one of my s9's
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September 26, 2016, 03:03:23 PM |
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They must be using the IP address that has very bad luck. ... Thus I'm more than willing to block an IP address that shows the early stages of bad luck - especially since no one (but me) actually loses out from me blocking an IP address, it just means an increase in variance (and less fees for me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) Now, as I know, the reason of bad luck was found. I am interesting - do you plan to unblock Nicehash? Thx.
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Sierra8561
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September 26, 2016, 04:20:03 PM |
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They must be using the IP address that has very bad luck. ... Thus I'm more than willing to block an IP address that shows the early stages of bad luck - especially since no one (but me) actually loses out from me blocking an IP address, it just means an increase in variance (and less fees for me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) Now, as I know, the reason of bad luck was found. I am interesting - do you plan to unblock Nicehash? Thx. I wasn't aware Kano had found the exact reason yet. What was it?
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CryptoBuddha
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September 26, 2016, 10:24:26 PM |
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I wasn't aware Kano had found the exact reason yet. What was it?
Not sure if I got it right, but some rentals were showing hashrate with very poor luck and in fact were withholding the blocks.
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aka Shammann elsewhere, spreche etwas Deutsch, pyccкий тoжe знaю ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ
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Sierra8561
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September 26, 2016, 10:37:23 PM |
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I wasn't aware Kano had found the exact reason yet. What was it?
Not sure if I got it right, but some rentals were showing hashrate with very poor luck and in fact were withholding the blocks. Nicehash admitted in their thread that they withhold blocks. Only under fishy circumstances, I don't know their definition of fishy. Or how many they are withholding.
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CryptoBuddha
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September 26, 2016, 11:22:18 PM |
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, I don't know their definition of fishy.
Probably it's some kind of "fishy" definition used in poker slang ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (a not experienced player who can be easily manipulated and left with no money)
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aka Shammann elsewhere, spreche etwas Deutsch, pyccкий тoжe знaю ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ
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September 27, 2016, 12:26:46 AM |
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The rain is falling pretty hard at my house right now. Sadly, that means I have to shut my miners down for lack of a safe/dry fresh air intake. I think I'll be able to fire 'em back up later tomorrow afternoon. In the meantime, lets hit a few BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! My 5ND has me covered for a block or two. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mine on!
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BITMIXER.IO Gone Baby, Gone.. ;-) Not any good sig campaigns out there that I want!
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kano (OP)
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September 27, 2016, 12:48:50 AM Last edit: September 27, 2016, 01:08:35 AM by kano |
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, I don't know their definition of fishy.
Probably it's some kind of "fishy" definition used in poker slang ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (a not experienced player who can be easily manipulated and left with no money) A specific IP was well behind in blocks vs expected. It was also at the top of the bad luck statistics. As I mentioned before, since it was rental that means no one will take responsibility for it, so it's safest to simply block it earlier than a normal miner, rather than risk it continuing. As I've mentioned a few times ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 1) There is no way to get anything back for loss from rentals - they won't tell anyone who or what and keep anything they determine was withholding 2) That rental site gets paid no matter what for all good and bad mining 3) The withholding miner on that rental site gets paid until ( IF) they are detected 4) It's a lot easier to hide a withholder of size M in a total hash rate of size N, if N is a larger than M and there is no separation of the actual miners ... i.e. by definition: a rental proxy - as a pool sees it Edit: and I guess I should add - for the sceptics ... It's to the advantage of people who rent out hardware and rental sites to withhold, if they are paid no matter what (as *Hash is) The more blocks they withhold, the fewer blocks found and thus the lower the diff change each 2 weeks. This all leads to the mining hardware and rental sites making more BTC long term ... at the expense of the pool they are pointed at, and that pool (it's miners) have no recourse.
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firetreeactual
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September 27, 2016, 01:59:33 AM |
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You've explained this before, Kano...but this time I think it's clearer (at least for me). The reasoning, and the transparency, are why many of us are here.
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To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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kano (OP)
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September 27, 2016, 08:59:55 AM |
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Slow block is slow ... But anyway ... block by LuisFernando to break that one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 27, 2016, 09:09:48 AM |
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A newb question: How do you withhold a block intentionally? by skipping a specific share that was locally verified to be the solution of the current block?
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kano (OP)
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September 27, 2016, 09:15:21 AM |
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Another block by hjry ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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