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December 17, 2016, 02:25:05 AM |
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Yeah, we need to get a lot of green so our stats will look like this: MERRY CHRISTMAS!  |
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kano (OP)
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December 17, 2016, 02:26:36 AM |
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Block by schmokeandapancake! This is his 2nd Kano block and our 1st of the new day! Was that with an S9? Appears to be an S9v2 |
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December 17, 2016, 02:39:40 AM |
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
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December 17, 2016, 03:12:37 AM |
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Yeah, we need to get a lot of green so our stats will look like this: MERRY CHRISTMAS! Only 16 more to get back to even for the month, NP. 8 Saturday and 8 Sunday. |
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December 17, 2016, 03:24:54 AM |
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.
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December 17, 2016, 04:42:01 AM |
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.
And the S1 didn't cost $18K+ USD. |
Go Big or Go Home.
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philipma1957
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December 17, 2016, 05:07:43 AM |
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.
And the S1 didn't cost $18K+ USD. March 4th 2014 was 684 price Dec 16th 2016 price is 788 Btc was about to drop and drop and drop By May of 2014 btc was 385. But the question is do we get a strong btc rally this means s9 is decent. Or does btc drop to 480 this means the s9 is really bad. |
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December 17, 2016, 06:02:45 AM |
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.
And the S1 didn't cost $18K+ USD. March 4th 2014 was 684 price Dec 16th 2016 price is 788 Btc was about to drop and drop and drop By May of 2014 btc was 385. But the question is do we get a strong btc rally this means s9 is decent. Or does btc drop to 480 this means the s9 is really bad. well, 684/788=0.86; to me it IS roughly the same (within 15%), considering that much more importantly, you have to bring in machines that cost at least 20 times more (S1 was something like $800 then) and consume 24 times more electricity. Come on, you know that it is basically a shitty deal that we got now. Can it get better? Sure, in $$ terms. |
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December 17, 2016, 06:31:08 AM |
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This comparison is not very just...
Today BTC has a market of 12 billion, back then it wasn't. Today it's also a lot more established than it was in the past.
At that time I would not care as much. Throwing $100 is like for fun. Today I obviously look at it as a risky but growth oriented investment.
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December 17, 2016, 09:02:59 AM |
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.
And the S1 didn't cost $18K+ USD. March 4th 2014 was 684 price Dec 16th 2016 price is 788 Btc was about to drop and drop and drop By May of 2014 btc was 385. But the question is do we get a strong btc rally this means s9 is decent. Or does btc drop to 480 this means the s9 is really bad. well, 684/788=0.86; to me it IS roughly the same (within 15%), considering that much more importantly, you have to bring in machines that cost at least 20 times more (S1 was something like $800 then) and consume 24 times more electricity. Come on, you know that it is basically a shitty deal that we got now. Can it get better? Sure, in $$ terms. I started to mine is late 2014. Prices were in the low $200 and often dip below. The s4 were just released. I still own the bitcoin that I mined then today. I was breaking even at the time when price were at $220. You are right its a shitty deal with the current difficulty and the halving but I'm sure the price will continue to balance its self so that miners are made whole. What is more of a worry to me in the Chinese proportion of the hash rate! |
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December 17, 2016, 09:26:06 AM |
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I have always been after this type of data, or more to the point the raw data underneath. I am not sure what BDR is ...
I don't mean to be rude but to believe this "conspiracy" requires ignorance about how mining actually works... Not offence taken, and yes a share is the correct term. I will look further into how the pool generates the work for the miner, the response and what it is combined with from the pool to form the answer. My thanks to Kano for expanding on BDR as well. |
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kano (OP)
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December 17, 2016, 11:09:20 AM |
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ... I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9  So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer? |
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December 17, 2016, 11:11:53 AM |
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Kano, do you see any possibility to upgrade to the newest version of the cgminer with these S9's ?
I guess it is much harder than it was with for example with the S1 and S2?
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December 17, 2016, 11:19:42 AM |
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Maybe everyone with s9 v1 should upgrade? Who has a good update to use?
All mine have the Nov 29 update with no issues. is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ... I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer? Maybe it was already answered  |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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kano (OP)
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December 17, 2016, 11:44:35 AM |
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Kano, do you see any possibility to upgrade to the newest version of the cgminer with these S9's ?
I guess it is much harder than it was with for example with the S1 and S2?
I'm not going near them. I spent enough time for a couple of years updating and fixing their crappy hack driver and they've never used any of the fixes I've done. -ck has made improvements in core cgminer that they have also ignored. Speak to them about it ... |
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December 17, 2016, 01:11:27 PM |
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ... I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer? I don't know about auto-tune but it sucks! You have one shot to pick your frequency and then it is locked in and that tab disappears in the settings. The only way to try different frequency to find the optimal setting is to re-flash the entire device and choose another frequency and subsequently get re-locked in. I myself am a default kinda guy. I don't overclock, or mess with the settings along as it hashes like it supposed to. However in some cases I have found on the S9's or all antminers I have used since the S2 for that matter that is struggling are to run, by bumping it up in 12.5 MHZ increments (or down, but obviously first you want up) you can usually find a stable setting and life goes on. However I had one unit (S9) that I decided to upgrade the firmware on and thats when I found this stupid frequency issue. They (bitmain) even warns you about it before you do it, but since it was one unit I went with it. I don't know what the purpose of it was other than to stop or discourage people from bouncing all over the place with the frequency. I suppose a lot of people damage their units with this option trying to squeeze every last hash out of their unit. What they don't understand is if the frequency is too high the machine actually runs slower. This isn't like a hyper-hash drive in a star wars movie. This was probably bitmains way to try and curtail the trouble reports. |
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December 17, 2016, 01:20:49 PM |
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Well it's something I added to CKDB long ago to be able to change the miner reward (to put it up twice before) Here's the message just now: [2016-12-16 22:13:02.186+11] process_pplns(): *** block 443699 payout reward overridden, was 1278060860 now 1389667900 = 111607040 (8.7325%) more
There was also something I was waiting on this block for that really had me wondering if it was some sort of vengeance by the block Gods I created another node to test a less modified version of 0.13.1 so I can use it on all the nodes except the main pool - to send/receive blocks to/from the fibre block relay network faster. That pretty much requires 0.13.1 to optimise it's use. And yep, yay, that block was properly submitted and accepted on the test node so that's all good now too, I'll update all the nodes - except the main pool - in the next day to 0.13.1 without segwit This may be a silly question and I may have missed a thread that could have explained this but here you go. Why wouldn't you do the same update to the main pool? |
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December 17, 2016, 01:52:06 PM |
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ... I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer? Right now the only firmware you can get is the auto frequency. Up until about a month ago they still had the manual frequency there also. I only have one miner still using the manual freq. The rest are using the auto freq. The auto for me runs great. I left them at the default freq. Now do understand that the majority of my miner are being hosted.And I can completely understand why a home miner would want to be able to control the freq on the fly. |
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December 17, 2016, 02:20:46 PM |
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BTClock!) by cobramining with 507.20THs ) 2th block for the day!
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December 17, 2016, 02:22:36 PM |
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Block by cobramining !
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