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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350122 times)
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March 15, 2018, 10:22:21 AM
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So I have ~ 200th now, and 600th next month to throw at a pool. This one came highly recommended along with slush and nicehash (selling power not the pool) what are peoples thoughts on this pool vs those other 2. Also, can somebody explain the ramping up and payout method? I've read it a few times, and then googled, and I'm still confused.

Nicehash
- least profitable, paid per share at possibly the lowest possible rate
- high fees (can't remember off the top of my head)
- insecure (they're going to take a year to pay back everyone due to being "hacked")

Slush
- Hybrid scoring calculation, resulting in a lot of shares never really being rewarded
- Exponentially quick decay on scoring curve, once your miner goes offline your shares are not rewarded
- 2% fees (more than double Kano)
- soon to be ASICboost compatible (experimental, untested code)

Kano
- Stable mining pool
- low 0.9% fees
- Currently "small" so variance can be higher

Having said that, Kano has grown 30% in the past month as people see the benefits of a low fee + stability


Kano PPLNS Payout method:

Rewards all shares submitted over a calculated 5Nd (5 times the current network difficulty of bitcoin)
This currently works out to roughly shares submitted over the past ~14 days to the kano pool

"Ramp up" is a way of saying, your full "hash rate" will only be apparently rewarded once you mine for 14 days continuously, rewards appear delayed.

At constant rate and difficulty with 100% luck, each share will be rewarded 5 times - no reward is lost.

Even if your miner goes offline, your shares provided are still likely to be rewarded 5 times, so no loss of rewards.



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March 15, 2018, 10:39:38 AM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 11:32:06 AM by BSGMiner
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Thank You Kano for the info!  A BIG THANK YOU TO KANO FOR ALL YOU DO FOR ALL OF US!! .. MINE ON KANO!!
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Sad to say I'm disappointed in humanity now knowing what happened. Cry

If I would've known this, I wouldn't have wasted the past 2 weeks pointing my 2nd (tiny) miner there--only ~150GHs worth--on a whim to watch it inch up the rankings. Now, I've almost hit a brick wall in the mid-400s and still need to break into the top 100 before I get a payout.

The concept of a zero fee once a month block reward from a small pool sounded good since I knew that Kano and CK were associated.

Any suggestions on just cutting my losses and pointing the tiny miner back here for a baby boost to my Kano payouts?
Bring it back. I got you boo boo. Even though you couldn't get padrinogtr to explain his 5nd understanding, you put forth a valiant effort. I will still honor it until further notice, but would like to extend to you some hash from an trimmed down S7. She's pumping out about 2.8TH/s at the moment and I would like to let "borrow" it for a week or so. If interested, shoot me a worker name and its all yours.
Wow... You guys are too good of a community. I've brought all (whopping Grin) 150GHs back, and it's ready to rock 'n roll!

MINE ON WITH KANO! THE BEST MINING POOL EVER!

P.S. - I'll send you a username.workername as a PM, and thanks for the consolation prize. Grin

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March 15, 2018, 11:42:51 AM
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I just invited another friend to this pool.
Not much to be proud of (just a couple of S7 for now), but we'll be growing - for sure!
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March 15, 2018, 01:08:04 PM
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So I have ~ 200th now, and 600th next month to throw at a pool. This one came highly recommended along with slush and nicehash (selling power not the pool) what are peoples thoughts on this pool vs those other 2. Also, can somebody explain the ramping up and payout method? I've read it a few times, and then googled, and I'm still confused.

The payout method?  You get a payout every time we hit a block.  The timing is after it gets 101 confirms, a low or zero fee transaction is created by Kano and once that is confirmed it hits your wallet.  If no one confirms this transaction, it will be confirmed by our next block hit.

For an explanation of how 5Nd works, read this post and see if it helps:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg31961789#msg31961789
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March 15, 2018, 01:15:03 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?
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March 15, 2018, 01:23:43 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

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March 15, 2018, 01:31:03 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

well tried 80, 443 too, also german link and the one for asic tube but nothing and network to kano.is but miner s9 just stopped giving information.

https://imgur.com/508cclP
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March 15, 2018, 01:41:16 PM
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Have you checked that there are for example no extra spaces by accident in the pool settings?

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March 15, 2018, 01:45:05 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

well tried 80, 443 too, also german link and the one for asic tube but nothing and network to kano.is but miner s9 just stopped giving information.

https://imgur.com/508cclP
You'll need to PM me your IP address so I can see if it's blocked for any reason.
There's certain subnets and IPs that are blocked from all the pool servers coz people on those IPs did bad things Smiley

The web site bans don't affect mining.
But certain account settings I can apply stop you from mining, so also include your account name so I can check that.
Though you'll know if that's a problem if you can't login to your account or when you login it says you must fix your email.

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March 15, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?
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March 15, 2018, 02:11:32 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?
blokforge.com
Or just look at Canaan's site for the distributors...

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March 15, 2018, 02:48:04 PM
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Any suggestions on just cutting my losses and pointing the tiny miner back here for a baby boost to my Kano payouts?
Bring it back. I got you boo boo. Even though you couldn't get padrinogtr to explain his 5nd understanding, you put forth a valiant effort. I will still honor it until further notice, but would like to extend to you some hash from an trimmed down S7. She's pumping out about 2.8TH/s at the moment and I would like to let "borrow" it for a week or so. If interested, shoot me a worker name and its all yours.
Wow... You guys are too good of a community. I've brought all (whopping Grin) 150GHs back, and it's ready to rock 'n roll!

MINE ON WITH KANO! THE BEST MINING POOL EVER!

P.S. - I'll send you a username.workername as a PM, and thanks for the consolation prize. Grin
Due to the abundant support (including PMs--you know who you are), I want to convey my appreciation for this amazing group of miners...


The BTCest mining pool (<1% fee): KanoPool
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March 15, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
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Is there any status update on dust payments?
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March 15, 2018, 03:28:20 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

well tried 80, 443 too, also german link and the one for asic tube but nothing and network to kano.is but miner s9 just stopped giving information.

https://imgur.com/508cclP

Also how long did you wait? It can take up to 10-15 minutes for a S9 to start hashing after you have changed configuration settings.

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March 15, 2018, 03:30:31 PM
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

well tried 80, 443 too, also german link and the one for asic tube but nothing and network to kano.is but miner s9 just stopped giving information.

https://imgur.com/508cclP

Also how long did you wait? It can take up to 10-15 minutes for a S9 to start hashing after you have changed configuration settings.


Longest is about 5 minutes for one of my miners...no idea why it's always slow to "re-connect" to any pool.  It also hashes the fastest so who knows?

s7's and Avalon's are almost instant.
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March 15, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2018, 04:07:54 PM by Biffa
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For some reason wasn't able to connect bitmain s9 to kano.is. Are there any restrictions?

If you can't connect on port 3333 try port 80, 81, 443 or 8080 as alternatives.

Perhaps post your configuration here so we can hopefully spot the problem

well tried 80, 443 too, also german link and the one for asic tube but nothing and network to kano.is but miner s9 just stopped giving information.

https://imgur.com/508cclP

Also how long did you wait? It can take up to 10-15 minutes for a S9 to start hashing after you have changed configuration settings.


Longest is about 5 minutes for one of my miners...no idea why it's always slow to "re-connect" to any pool.  It also hashes the fastest so who knows?

s7's and Avalon's are almost instant.

I think the length of time is dependent on if its having any trouble with any of the strings or individual asics. Sometimes I've seen the log files spin through multiple attempts at different frequencies (maybe depending on temps) to get started, thats when its taken the longest. I just brought it up because its not "instant" which might be what the op was expecting.

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March 15, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
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I think the length of time is dependent on if its having any trouble with any of the strings or individual asics. Sometimes I've seen the log files spin through multiple attempts at different frequencies (maybe depending on temps) to get started, thats when its taken the longest. I just brought it up because its not "instant" which might be what the op was expecting.

Second this - the warm up process for an S9 takes a long time, relatively, before it even tries to start hashing. I've seen it take as long as 20 minutes. Usually when I get a new S9, I configure it and let it do its thing before going to run an errand or grab lunch.
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March 15, 2018, 05:10:43 PM
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As far as I know, recent S9 firmware has some kind of auto-detection of the "optimal" working frequency for the hash boards. During the autodetect procedure it may restart itself a few times, based on its own criteria... I guess that's why it takes so long to start actual mining.

When I had my S9, I even thought it's faulty when I started it for the first time... Yes, the S7 is much, much faster to start mining. Smiley
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And it seems to me that everything is much simpler, the stratum is incorrectly spelled out
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