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Yeah because we all mine X11 .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days. Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum.. A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access.. My old 7950 can do 25mhash etherium havily oc'ed to 1150/1500 with std vmem timings or 1100/1250 with bios modded vmem timings (Grime gave a link). Both unstable 23 MHash stable with 1100/1250 undervolted to 1.09 with only 56C on quiet 2300 rpm fan.
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January 20, 2016, 11:23:59 AM |
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As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance. And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.
This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates. He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere. What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability' Even if it's not worth it right now, it may be in the future. It's no different then his normal releases he did every week or so months ago, only now it costs .1 BTC. That's actually marketing his product and attempting to sell it. I assume the .1BTC is also for future versions of the miner as well. Yeah because we all mine X11 .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days. Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum.. A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access.. Due to tlb trashing, the 280x is not as good as before (incredible card : when you consider its age). I am mining ethereum with a refurbished R9 290X : 30Mh/s on windows 10 with 170W consumption, without bios modding (I regret being late to ethereum mining, but I had no longer amd cards till december). About 1.2 eth/day. Before I was mining spreadcoin with a pair of GTX 980 then a pair of refurbished GTX 980 ti with you private miner (I have waited spr rise before selling) : clearly profitable... (more than 2 btc obtained with spr, and I sold my GTX with minimal loss). But this is just a hobby with this small mining power : a mining which pay me my upgrades... It's currently quite profitable to mine Eth, but if you buy AMD you lock yourself into Eth or hope Wolf0 will sell you a kernel and not for complete assrape prices. As we can see with the recent destruction of FTC and Cryptsy, that's not always a wise choice. There are too many unknowns in cryptos to rely solely on one specific coin (I used to mine Burst and learned that the hard way). Nvidia mining in general is down right now though. Pretty much everything is earning less then a dollar. Spread has been heavily saturated in the last month or so too, so it's next to impossible to profit from it anymore, especially considering how much the market fluctuates (it lost 50% of it's value in the last week). It's a safer bet mining Ethereum with crippled Nvidia hardware. I assume that's going to change in the future though. No one knows what algos are going to go up or down. There are a lot of options that are pretty low right now. It could be GPU mining is just saturated in general too. ROI on SHA/Scrypt ASICs has been better then GPUs for about the last six months, especially right now.
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January 20, 2016, 11:30:16 AM |
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As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance. And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.
This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates. He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere. What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability' not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed...
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AUTOSWITCH BATCH FILE FOR YAAMP CLONE--
Following is a copy of my autoswitching batch file for CCminer on a YAAMP Pool clone, like HashPower:
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C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x11 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3533 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x13 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3633 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x15 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a quark -i 23.9 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4033 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -i 15.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4233 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 19.1 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:5433 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a qubit -i 19.7 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
goto loop
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Save the text above, minus the "==CUT LINE==" notations, as "switch bat", and run the batch file under Wndows. The above hash rates are relevant for a GTX 960, but will work OK for any model nVidia card until personal hash rates are established for any CCminer build/card model combo. The specified PATH should be modified for your personal miner's PATH environmental variable. Also, these hash rates were attained with the current Private Miner from sp_ (v2.7). --scryptr
Will this payout in BTC if you have all wallet addresses set to a Bitcoin address? I tried this on one rig, but the other rigs I have in the bat file is -u my BTC address -p c=BTC as can be seen here.
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January 20, 2016, 12:12:47 PM |
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This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.
He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.
What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'
not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... that customer service thing is a nice idea... maybe we should do it :-D seriously.... I currently have two things for sale and both have been advertised in the relavant threads.
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This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.
He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.
What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'
not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... that customer service thing is a nice idea... maybe we should do it :-D seriously.... I currently have two things for sale and both have been advertised in the relavant threads. so we have an opening for a secretary or sale rep., send us your cv. audition will start as soon as possible
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January 20, 2016, 12:43:53 PM |
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AUTOSWITCH BATCH FILE FOR YAAMP CLONE--
Following is a copy of my autoswitching batch file for CCminer on a YAAMP Pool clone, like HashPower:
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C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x11 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3533 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x13 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3633 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x15 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a quark -i 23.9 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4033 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -i 15.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4233 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 19.1 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:5433 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a qubit -i 19.7 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1 -b 0.0.0.0:4068 timeout /t 3
goto loop
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Save the text above, minus the "==CUT LINE==" notations, as "switch bat", and run the batch file under Wndows. The above hash rates are relevant for a GTX 960, but will work OK for any model nVidia card until personal hash rates are established for any CCminer build/card model combo. The specified PATH should be modified for your personal miner's PATH environmental variable. Also, these hash rates were attained with the current Private Miner from sp_ (v2.7). --scryptr
Will this payout in BTC if you have all wallet addresses set to a Bitcoin address? I tried this on one rig, but the other rigs I have in the bat file is -u my BTC address -p c=BTC as can be seen here. IT WILL PAY BTC--- You don't need to specify the coin in the password for BTC, or DASH for that matter. Apparently, some less popular coins are not well recognized, so the coin specification flag may be required for them. --scryptr
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January 20, 2016, 12:48:02 PM |
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Thx scryptr
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January 20, 2016, 01:09:22 PM |
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This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.
He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.
What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'
not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... that customer service thing is a nice idea... maybe we should do it :-D seriously.... I currently have two things for sale and both have been advertised in the relavant threads. so we have an opening for a secretary or sale rep., send us your cv. audition will start as soon as possible I'm up for it! I'll test them out first for a few weeks (you can never be sure enough :p) haha
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January 20, 2016, 01:39:06 PM |
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This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.
He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.
What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'
not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... that customer service thing is a nice idea... maybe we should do it :-D seriously.... I currently have two things for sale and both have been advertised in the relavant threads. so we have an opening for a secretary or sale rep., send us your cv. audition will start as soon as possible I'm up for it! I'll test them out first for a few weeks (you can never be sure enough :p) haha you'll be paid from a percentage of the donation... hope you have good hunter gatherer skills... You'll need to be able to throw spears, knap flints, make fire etc... (as well as good sale rep skill, obviously...)
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This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.
He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.
What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'
not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... that customer service thing is a nice idea... maybe we should do it :-D seriously.... I currently have two things for sale and both have been advertised in the relavant threads. so we have an opening for a secretary or sale rep., send us your cv. audition will start as soon as possible I'm up for it! I'll test them out first for a few weeks (you can never be sure enough :p) haha you'll be paid from a percentage of the donation... hope you have good hunter gatherer skills... You'll need to be able to throw spears, knap flints, make fire etc... (as well as good sale rep skill, obviously...) Hold my Fanta. I'll show you ;-)
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January 20, 2016, 02:11:23 PM |
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Does anyone overvolt their 750TI's ? If so at what improvements plz. Thx
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January 20, 2016, 02:17:15 PM |
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On my 970 rig, I've found out that lowering TDP may bring a less-than-expected hashrate reduction.
Example: TDP set at 150, hashrate -5%, power -12% Cards in P2, algo is NON memory intensive, power at the wall.
Possible causes: chips work more efficiently at lower temperature, fans turn slower.
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January 20, 2016, 02:28:31 PM |
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On my 970 rig, I've found out that lowering TDP may bring a less-than-expected hashrate reduction.
Example: TDP set at 150, hashrate -5%, power -12% Cards in P2, algo is NON memory intensive, power at the wall.
Possible causes: chips work more efficiently at lower temperature, fans turn slower.
Ok thx pallas.
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January 20, 2016, 02:33:54 PM |
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[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]
I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same. Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what. Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion...
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January 20, 2016, 06:39:32 PM |
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[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]
I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same. Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what. Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion... I agree... ROI is king... It's hard to open your wallet for donations when there are cobwebs at the bottom (I'm currently negative last month because of Cryptsy)... Right now a 970 makes about $1.20 mining Eth without taking out cost for power.
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January 20, 2016, 07:02:59 PM Last edit: January 20, 2016, 07:30:59 PM by djm34 |
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[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]
I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same. Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what. Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion... I agree... ROI is king... It's hard to open your wallet for donations when there are cobwebs at the bottom (I'm currently negative last month because of Cryptsy)... Right now a 970 makes about $1.20 mining Eth without taking out cost for power. but then you understand, we may be reluctant to release new miners in these conditions... I mean you can't really expect us to release for free because the conditions are bad (because it would just be bad for us as well...) hence what is expected is that we find a middle ground or a compromise which would make happy everyone. and in that case dev fee isn't either a good solution, because miners won't wait for us before dumping on a coin... (and there are a lot more miners than devs)
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January 20, 2016, 09:11:20 PM |
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Solution? : EZ ... Sell more by selling less. 0.1 BTC with 2 GTX 970 take 1 month ... (Not everyone have 10K mining hardware ) Not worth the value of those optimized miner (Even if SP and other developper work hard) Sell it 0.01 BTC and 10X more people would buy it. Win-win situation
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January 20, 2016, 09:41:13 PM |
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I have added another 100Khash in the lyra2v2 algo on the gtx 960, +300khash in the 980ti.
Will be included in private #3
private #3 also include a quark boost. 18.4MHASH on the 970 g1 gaming default clocks.!
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January 20, 2016, 09:50:01 PM |
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[...] WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? [...]
I did, not so long ago. Works out pretty well as far as I can tell, but would likely get very messy if said miner was being sold to a large number of people. I don't know of any other examples, but I'd imagine other people have done the same. Side note 1: Being public about the terms of the deal, and changing them after-the-fact, is utter bullshit. I'd say that's much worse than not being public about the terms but sticking to them no matter what. Side note 2: I understand people are around here with a miner's mindset, and ROI is king. But, if you folks care for the potential of cryptocurrencies at all, maybe someday, try to pick some altcoin that you like, mine it even at a loss, grow a bag, help that community, participate, develop some service, some utility. Much more fun, and oddly enough, big profits on occasion... I agree... ROI is king... It's hard to open your wallet for donations when there are cobwebs at the bottom (I'm currently negative last month because of Cryptsy)... Right now a 970 makes about $1.20 mining Eth without taking out cost for power. but then you understand, we may be reluctant to release new miners in these conditions... I mean you can't really expect us to release for free because the conditions are bad (because it would just be bad for us as well...) hence what is expected is that we find a middle ground or a compromise which would make happy everyone. and in that case dev fee isn't either a good solution, because miners won't wait for us before dumping on a coin... (and there are a lot more miners than devs) Not sure what you mean about a dev fee... A % based miner will be constantly mining whatever you have at your proxy setup for X algorithm. 98 shares for the miner, 2 shares for the dev. Maybe we've always been on a different page when it comes to a miner fee? You have a miner submit 98 shares for whatever pool they're connected to and then two shares to whatever pool you want for the algorithm it's operating on. That would be a 2% fee, relatively speaking. Or you could do it based on time... 72secs every hour. Also not entirely certain what you mean by 'bad conditions for developers'. If you say sold your Neoscrypt miner for .1 a pop three months ago things would be quite a bit different or even right now. Kernel developers basically help set the conditions for miners. I can look at SPs miner right now and go 'hey it's not going to ROI, but I have a option of a 5% faster miner in the future for .1'. And of course SP will be improving it so it turns into a better option into the future. So something like x11 will be about 5% faster. Still not profitable, but could be. Honestly though a % based miner is just the best solution. It rewards developers for making faster kernels constantly and gives miners big and small a chance to compete. You keep updating your miner and the amount of money you make keeps growing too. It's win-win
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I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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