GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[vObh0n]6W]

Fuck those gawtards. They can STILL exit at $1! That's a miracle for a scam. Yet they wait, hodl for $20. They deserve to lose it all.

You only need to have a >.05 chance that you'll get it. Or a >.25 that it will hit 4 again, etc.

Some people are not as dumb as you think. There are more pumps coming, that's almost guaranteed.

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[suchmoon]

Fuck those gawtards. They can STILL exit at $1! That's a miracle for a scam. Yet they wait, hodl for $20. They deserve to lose it all.

You only need to have a >.05 chance that you'll get it. Or a >.25 that it will hit 4 again, etc.

Some people are not as dumb as you think. There are more pumps coming, that's almost guaranteed.

Wasn't there someone a while ago offering a bet on XPY price. I wonder how that worked out.

[kupan787]

Not sure if this was posted, but it looks like GAWs issues are spilling over into their other businesses:

http://www.coindesk.com/turmoil-gaw-miners-phone-service/

Customers of GAW High Speed Internet, an Internet and phone services provider operated by the parent company of controversial bitcoin startup GAW Miners, are reporting service issues.
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Indications that customers of GAW were experiencing phone problems surfaced on 22nd January, when Platterpus took to Twitter to alert its followers about the phone issues.
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Platterpus Records @PlatterpusToo
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@gawceo Josh - Is GAW Internet still in business? 5 businesses in Easthampton, MA have hadno phone for 2 weeks. No response from GAW.
3:03 PM - 4 Feb 2015

[suchmoon]

Not sure if this was posted, but it looks like GAWs issues are spilling over into their other businesses:

http://www.coindesk.com/turmoil-gaw-miners-phone-service/

Customers of GAW High Speed Internet, an Internet and phone services provider operated by the parent company of controversial bitcoin startup GAW Miners, are reporting service issues.
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Indications that customers of GAW were experiencing phone problems surfaced on 22nd January, when Platterpus took to Twitter to alert its followers about the phone issues.
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Platterpus Records @PlatterpusToo
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@gawceo Josh - Is GAW Internet still in business? 5 businesses in Easthampton, MA have hadno phone for 2 weeks. No response from GAW.
3:03 PM - 4 Feb 2015

Thanks for the link, I haven't seen this article but we did have one of Platterpus' tweets posted here.

[vObh0n]6W]

Fuck those gawtards. They can STILL exit at $1! That's a miracle for a scam. Yet they wait, hodl for $20. They deserve to lose it all.

You only need to have a >.05 chance that you'll get it. Or a >.25 that it will hit 4 again, etc.

Some people are not as dumb as you think. There are more pumps coming, that's almost guaranteed.

Wasn't there someone a while ago offering a bet on XPY price. I wonder how that worked out.

I bet a little bit on whether it would go below .01 btc by some date, and won.

[torelle]

Nice, finally coindesk has gotten on the wagon that coinfire and coinbrief are driving

[Sujoy]

Wasn't there someone a while ago offering a bet on XPY price. I wonder how that worked out.

Bet cashes out in 3 hours!
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/gaw-miners-paycoin-is-a-flop-1020

I wonder if I will win... "If the value of Paycoin falls BELOW the public launch price (predicted to be $20), WITHIN 3 months AFTER the public launch, for MORE THAN 24 hours, this bet resolves to 'Yes'."

While they made some terrible investments, the GAW supporter who posted this bet certainly didn't offer much in the way of odds. I only win .01 from a bet of 0.1BTC. Having said that, there wasn't much chance of losing!

[DARKANGEL6415]

with this news in the headlines the price will maybe hit $50 per coin as everyone will be waiting for the savior josh and will want to show they kept the faith and kept buying

[bumpershot]

I think that Bitcoin Bar guy just deleted his old posts to remove evidence of him selling off his XPY. He probably thought it easiest to just wipe everything.

I say that because his latest post appears in his history.

[DARKANGEL6415]

BoXHocK
Team PayCoin
Paycoin Innovator

I'm so sad I spent my last BTCs earlier this week. I could have saved so much by waiting till tonight

Let's all hold, and buy what you can when the price is low!

There is nothing more to be said.

The GAW investment strategy: Buy low, sell lower.

they must be using this plan to be able to claim tax credits as a loss to try to even out all the money made from other great products offered from gaw lol 

[clanbake]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30973/lost-faith-in-paycoin-this-is-why-i-m-still-here

Hahah you idiots. You're still there because you want your money back. You are all pretty much stupid, now, broke.

Garza, when you said "I find your comment innapriorate and disrespectful. If you are interested a normal and respectful conversation, let me know." I knew you were not running a real business. You cant spell(check) (inappropriate) and why is the CEO of this company monitoring his forum Either way, you EARN respect, you don't start a forum and demand it.


Fun to watch you turn into nothing.



 GAW_CEO
I find your comment innapriorate and disrespectful. If you are interested a normal and respectful conversation, let me know.

about 14 hours ago chrisk
I’m sorry, I really don’t mean to disrespect anyone. I simply asked if you could post some numbers that anyone here would be interested in.

In the end I, like everyone on here, am a customer disrespect or not, I need to know the facts before I invest.

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
I would rather you not invest

if you do not have the info you want

about 14 hours ago chrisk
Wow, really?

So you don’t need the business?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Thats correct. I am only interested in business from those who are comfortable with us.

I dont want anyone doing business with us thats not comfortable

about 14 hours ago chrisk
Well that’s laughable. 1) you do realize this communication is not private in any way. 2) Rather than provide numbers you would just not want my business?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
As the CEO, I get the choice to decide what I disclose. Just like you get to device who you do business with.

*choose

about 14 hours ago chrisk
Okay, so tell me. Why would you not want more customers?

I mean, in the end ive said that this is awesome! but simply asked for more data before I invest and you’re threatened or annoyed by that

why is that?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Its not about wanting more customers. I choose what I think is best for the customer base we already have. My obligation is to them and their investments. I do not disclose certain types of information for competitive reasons. Companies all over the world are copying our designs, and I am not interested in making it easier for them. So like I said, you have to decide if there is a fit here for you.

about 14 hours ago chrisk
So why not say that on your website?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
say what?

about 14 hours ago chrisk
or even in the forums

that you will not provide any data at all. Its a invest and gamble or don’t type of deal.

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Depends on what data your asking for. But no, as a private customer we will not release data about our financials, hashing power, the multipools we own, etc

about 14 hours ago chrisk
I mean, just respond to my post and say sorry, we will not give anyone that info ever for our own reasons.

so were having this conversation but you dont know what data I asked for?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Not interested an argument. Like a said a few comments back, we plan to do a walk through one of our data centers soon. If your not comfortable, I would wait until then to see if it has the information you want to see to make you comfortable. If it does, I would love to have you as a customer.

about 14 hours ago chrisk
Oh I am a customer. The whole point is that I wanted to invest more, meaning I needed more info before I do that.

its standard info that any pool would give you

Per coin, what is the total hash rate of the operation? Per coin, what is the total hash rate vs remaining? (what have you sold, how many do you have left…) Per coin, how many block are we getting daily? Why not List the blocks found, that would be solid proof to everyone that you are actually mining. Total power usage and cost for the farm or farms?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
I will not provide that information. I have no interest in letting our competitors know our scale

about 14 hours ago chrisk
and that is your official statement?

You do realize you have to show where my money went right?

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
There are some pictures throughout the forum of different data centers

about 14 hours ago chrisk
The fact that I put my money into a black hole, and a tiny payout comes out every day (or not) is questionable.

Listen, i don’t want to waste your time. I think I have everything I need.

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
Cool, I think our walk through will address some/most of your concerns. It will have some general numbers, pictures, power, etc

about 14 hours ago chrisk
Yea, let me know. I love what you guys are doing but, I need to know its legit. No offense in any way.

Have a good night man.

about 14 hours ago GAW_CEO
email this address

info@bitmaintech.com

and copy me

josh@btc.com

and ask them if our most recent order was over 5 peta hash :grinning:

night

[suchmoon]

I think that Bitcoin Bar guy just deleted his old posts to remove evidence of him selling off his XPY. He probably thought it easiest to just wipe everything.

I say that because his latest post appears in his history.

I thought he got unbanned, because I can see all his posts again:

http://i.snag.gy/OzKR0.jpg

But then I tried another browser and it only shows the last one. HT is getting weirder and weirder.

[KC6TTR]

The saga continues...

http://www.coindesk.com/turmoil-gaw-miners-phone-service/

Scott-

[DARKANGEL6415]

I was advised by our legal team to run this program. I have been left out of many other legal meetings, and now being told we may not even do the program.

http://coinbrief.net/gaw-miners-sec-investigation/

His lawyers are actually banning him from meetings lol.

lol poor guy never catches a break i tell you, he should get new lawyers if this ones are so mean to him 

[DARKANGEL6415]

I was advised by our legal team to run this program. I have been left out of many other legal meetings, and now being told we may not even do the program.

http://coinbrief.net/gaw-miners-sec-investigation/

His lawyers are actually banning him from meetings lol.

LOL I have a feeling this is kind of what the conversation went like.

Lawyer: "Yeah, you dumb fucking idiot, you've committed major fraud. They have loads of proof against you. You'll give the people their $20 a coin or you're going to prison for a very long time. You also fucked up by trying to delete everything to do with it. Keep your mouth shut, don't post on the forums, and don't do anything this stupid ever again."

Homero: "Ok. Please don't leave. The last legal team left after they found out all the details." (Discontinues Hashlets that are a contract for life).

Or Homero is saying that to try to look like it is the nasty Gubment and those pesky lawyers fault for not being able to keep his word. Typical deflection of accountability that liars and con men always engage in.

I agree. Could be.

no it cant go entirely like that, i mean might be part of the story but no way any lawyer will leave just cause the case gets nasty, now if they are not getting paid then i can see it

[verloren]

The saga continues...

http://www.coindesk.com/turmoil-gaw-miners-phone-service/

Scott-

I thought this was his old company. I remember him saying it was sold and he's no longer in the internet/phone business.

It's still listed under the GAW Brands on gaw.com (including GAWMiners and GAW Labs). Josh is listed on gaw.com as CEO, as well as GAWHSI. Even if he sold the business, it looks like he still is in charge of it.

[JoostB]

Mr. Ganza is not very happy with the latest coindesk article!

No write up when we gave away free hashing power, double payouts, launched a free exchange or any of the awesome community projects going on.

But an article mention over a missed speech....... and an entire story about a single customer (with a company that services thousands) that is without service for a completely unrelated industry.

Wonder what a person, just thinking about trying crypto, thinks when they see stuff like that.

Are we really that interesting? Are there really those that would willing attempt damage a community, a coin or the industry? Just for 15 minutes of fame or a few clicks?

When I read stuff like this, I am grateful for those that have been here all along, slowly pushing the ball forward, despite those that pull it back. It's because of you, this industry has a chance.

So I just want to thank those of you that fight for, not just us, but the industry as a whole.

PS the silver lining is at least the Great Auk guys know there is a service issue that needs to be addressed.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/31167/how-far-will-they-go

I doubt whether this is written by Garza because he is not able to write something comprehensive and understandable.

This reply from solid72 is spot on:

well, in a way, CEO, you are now reaping what you used to sow: your aggressive stance against the whole industry (remember the KNC challenge), the full-mouthed promises (always profitable, own for a lifetime, when just this week, mining was shut down, not to mention the 20$ promise and before that, the Prime Buyback that did not happen as announced, etc, etc) left you in a vulnerable state and now, for those you challenged, it's payback time.

Are you really surprised?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/31167/how-far-will-they-go/75

[DARKANGEL6415]

Well there you are

1. Call it the 31st, he is "told" the SEC is investigating. On the 1st he posts that blog claiming they are not
2. Call it the 31st where he says he will step down if he cannot deliver.

That one I must check the crowd he is playing to.  The chants to step down might have been in the event he cannot deliver on the 1st he should step down etc. Still hedging and playing into their hands, because surely by the 31st he knows that he cannot proceed. Homero is sneaky enough to setup his next step in advance like this.

Will do some digging to correspond with what he set up. That is where he usually slips up, it address something specific someone says past or present which is how you know.

The odditiy is the SEC blog on the 1st. It reads again addressing specifics of a the claim of an investigation by the SEC rather than just being investigated by the SEC period. Perhaps there is a missing email he forgot to release or someone forgot to forwards which corresponds with that? That is yes Homero you are being investigate but no Homero it just started there are not 1000 pages against you etc.

man i am going to gain so much weight eating all this popcorn following up with this story, maybe i should buy the low calorie popcorn to get me through this drama lol 

[Unacceptable]

Look at this!!

http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/03/neucoin-raises-2-5m-to-be-a-headache-free-take-on-bitcoin/

Josh is that you  

[DARKANGEL6415]

I really wish the deep truth would leak. Where exactly does Homero plan on getting $100 million?

maybe he got lucky playing the lotto and won some big prize, just dont want to tell us poor folks he will us the lottery winnings to help cover the cost of his loyal customers