GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Vlad2Vlad]

Now ask yourselves, why would Andreas, the Bitcoin expert do a complete 180 about 8 months ago?

The reason is that even an idiot like him, finally realized, 6 months behind the curve [like usual] that Bitcoin's mandatory transaction cost of .001 [which is set to increase again] will cost way too much once Bitcoin surpasses $10,000 this year and that Bitcoin cannot propagate blocks quickly enough and Bitcoin will not be able to scale quickly enough (thus the need for the increased block fee)

I was saying EXACTLY this stuff 6 months before Andreas realized it. 

And this is why we have banks backing Ripple, why Bill Gates said Bitcoin will not win in the end, and why we have lots of specialty, niche and boutique currencies coming out backed by big money.

And this is exactly why XPY has a chance to become a major global player as long as Garza executes properly.  XPY Was specifically designed to be a perfect fit as a daily use currency, exactly what Bitcoin can NOT be.  EVER!

Do you guys still think XPY's unique design is a coincidence done in haste?

 

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[Vlad2Vlad]

For the record:

I also argued with Andreas when the shill said:  "The state can never control Bitcoin."

I quickly corrected him that day and pointed to simple facts why he was dead wrong and why he was again lying to everyone.

6 months after he said that, CEX.io, a NEW anonymous pool, totally controlled Bitcoin [owned over 50% of the BTC network] and 51'd Bitcoin, proving that Andreas once again had no clue what he was talking about.

I pointed out to him on twitter that he was yet wrong AGAIN and once AGAIN, he was 6 months behind the curve and that's when he blocked me.

What a bank shill!  What a coward!

[Vlad2Vlad]

So clearly, none of you here knew any of these FACTS.

None of you have done the proper research.

This is why there's a race to replace Bitcoin - a race to create a daily crypto currency since Bitcoin will not be able to do the job.

This is a known industry FACT for anyone who stays educated on the matter.

[jibble]

For the record :

Where is this compulsory bitcoin fee you are talking about at 0.001?

let's pick a random transaction on the blockchain

https://blockchain.info/tx/79eb8c0ce76a9189ed2a8fedc7e38192192fab6dc2ff77df6645647f713378fc

transaction fee is 0.0001 , ten times less than the mandatory amount you state.

is that research enough?

[Paul Revere]

Please take the Bitcoin discussion elsewhere. This thread is about GAW and Paycoin.

[Vlad2Vlad]

So let me ask all the XPY haters then.

If you're willing to trust an anonymous Chinese pool [Discus Fish] which totally controls a completely [proven] centralized Bitcoin and can attack it and kill it anytime they want.

Why wouldn't you then trust a different currency like XPY, which is also centralized but at least you know who is running it, it's an American whose identity is known and who has a lot to lose and who can be found and arrested if he acts illegally?

There is no such thing as an anonymous or decentralized crypto currency.  Bitcoin was designed to be fully centralized and controlled by the state and the elite.  This is a fact I've been shouting since 2013.

You have all been brainwashed into thinking that Bitcoin is some decentralized coin when in fact it is totally Owned and controlled by unknown government forces and you would all rather trust that than a coin you at least know something about.

That is another level of stupid.

[Subtuppel]

[Vlad2Vlad]

And finally, this is precisely why I said that any major player in the crypto space could be a major bank, corporate or NSA frontman.

This goes beyond saying.  The NSA controls all the tech companies.  This is a fact.


There is no way they're gonna leave something this big and dangerous to chance.  They're not gonna let China, Russia, etc., control Bitcoin without at least launching competing currencies and they're not gonna tell you, hey:  This coin is a JP Morgan coin or this is an NSA coin.  Lol

And think logically, if the govt launches a coin, they would likely make it look silly or bad in some way to throw off suspicion.  

I look at the money being pumped into a coin as a sign of a major player behind that coin.  

I watched XPY come out of nowhere and being number one in volume for weeks, and even now when it's supposedly a big scam, it's still often the number in volume.

Someone explain that to me.  Who is pumping millions into a supposed ScamCoin at this point?

Go with the odds.  Go with the probability of what's most likely plausible.

XPY is a screaming buy to me at this level and I know I only have to guess one of the next global contenders correctly to make millions so I spread my BTC out across the best backed cryptos.

One of them will become the daily use currency - the global currency and whoever buys that coin early will be massively rich.

Good luck, ya sheep!

[Vlad2Vlad]

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Oh no, a troll ignored me.

A coward crying about unfair HashTalk censorship censored me for pointing out hard FACTS.

In Nov 2013 I was laughing my ass off at the 18 idiots who ignored me months earlier when I was saying Bitcoin would match gold's price in the following 12 months.  Those cowards probably sold Bitcoin way too early since they never heard any theory about why Bitcoin would hit $1200 so soon. 

I was the only guy on this entire forum with a logical theory why Bitcoin would skyrocket to match gold so early and 18 months ago I was the only guy with a logical theory why Bitcoin would hit $10,000 by 2015 and then go on to $100,000+.

So all the hypocrites ignoring me won't see what's coming next - cowards being driven by fear are usually victims of their own fearful actions.

[bananafana]

Shiny side out, Vlad.

[bumpershot]

It's almost an entire page of one poster being ignored.

[owlcatz]

It's almost an entire page of one poster being ignored.

let's keep it that way please. 

[Vlad2Vlad]

Please take the Bitcoin discussion elsewhere. This thread is about GAW and Paycoin.

You must be joking.

This [BITCOIN] is DIRECTLY related to XPY.

People are saying there is no need or purpose for a coin like XPY.

And that XPY is too inflationary and centralized.

If people understood that the major problem with Bitcoin is that it is too deflationary and that it too is centralized then clueless people would understand why there is a need for competing alt coins like XPY and that we will soon have a dozen currencies fighting to take over and for a while quite a few of them will be popular and reach multi billion dollar market caps.

All of this is related to Bitcoin and Bitcoin's flaws.

I can't believe I have to keep spelling things out like this for everyone.  

You guys aren't behind the curve .  You're nowhere on the curve or even on the chart.  You're waiting to be told by the media, AFTER it's too late what coin you should invest it.

That's a sure way to lose all your money.

[rawbot]

It's almost an entire page of one poster being ignored.

Just think of the brain cells you would lose if he wasn't on ignore.

[owlcatz]

It's almost an entire page of one poster being ignored.

Just think of the brain cells you would lose if he wasn't on ignore.

I'm 10x smarter having not read one post in like 5 pages to be honest, good point!

[Vlad2Vlad]

Shiny side out, Vlad.

Clowns like you were saying that when I used to say the NSA had back doors into Facebook et al.

The NSA is in control of tech companies but no way they're interested in Bitcoin and cryptos given Bitcoin can literally destroy the status quo and the entire global fiat system.

No, why bother getting involved in Bitcoin and cryptos, it might cost like $10 million dollars.  lol

Hahahaaa.  The blindness of the masses is shocking!

[cooldgamer]

I watched XPY come out of nowhere and being number one in volume for weeks, and even now when it's supposedly a big scam, it's still often the number in volume.

The reason it was able to get such high volume is that GAW first built up trust as a cloudminer.  If Zencloud was never a thing then nobody would have bought into this shitcoin.

People got into it as cloudminers, Primes and Zens were at first invested in as normal miners with unannounced features.  Then XPY came around and people did what they thought was the logical thing, which was to mine the pool that was the most profitable.

It didn't get such high volume as a coin itself, it got the volume it did because the investments had already been made in Primes and Zens.  You couldn't sell your hashlets back to GAW, you could only sell if somebody else was buying on the hashmarket.  That means money was going in to XPY, but couldn't come out until it went public.  This gave it the illusion of being popular when it was just people running for the doors.

It only was high while Homero was pulling his stunt buying for $20 on exchanges, then it sank into shitcoin mode once no external money was being pumped in and everybody trying to get out.

As for "It's still often the number in volume" it can't beat a coin with a funny dog's face on it, and this is with a supposedly multi-million dollar adoption fund.  And none of this volume seems to be going up until Homero tries to pump it, after which it gets a massive dump.



If this was a legit coin why would one of the higher-ups be helping me out to keep telling people on Hashtalk what a scam it is?  Why did Garza refuse my invitation to a video chat where he could answer all the things people want to know about what's going on?  Why did their GM call it a sinking Titanic and say he was looking for a way out without getting fucked?   

[bananafana]

So one of the benefits (from Josh's point of view) of blocking the paycoin pages on HT if you aren't logged in is that archive.today no longer works. Apologies if this was covered here already but it's truly Josh at peak megalomaniacal pumping strength.

Muuuhhhh
https://hashtalk.org/topic/32651/



"It's something that is going to change the industry as a whole."



"We still got another week or two out before the beta launches."

"I have had a separate team working on a secret project for a while."



"Anyhoo, I had it down all out of house, and split it up between teams all over the world, so it will stay secret"



"We gave an exclusive at a media outlet (no it does not have the word coin in it). And, I have already done the interview. So they will be launching it. But, it will be exciting"

Does anyone other than Vlad believe that gawceo had an idea that will revolutionize the industry, that he managed a multi-national team of software developers to make it a reality, and that a beta is going to launch in another week or two?

[Josef_Stylin]

Shiny side out, Vlad.

given Bitcoin can literally destroy the status quo and the entire global fiat system.

this is an incredibly stupid thing to say.

[Crestington]

So one of the benefits (from Josh's point of view) of blocking the paycoin pages on HT if you aren't logged in is that archive.today no longer works. Apologies if this was covered here already but it's truly Josh at peak megalomaniacal pumping strength.

Muuuhhhh
https://hashtalk.org/topic/32651/



"It's something that is going to change the industry as a whole."



"We still got another week or two out before the beta launches."

"I have had a separate team working on a secret project for a while."



"Anyhoo, I had it down all out of house, and split it up between teams all over the world, so it will stay secret"



"We gave an exclusive at a media outlet (no it does not have the word coin in it). And, I have already done the interview. So they will be launching it. But, it will be exciting"

Does anyone other than Vlad believe that gawceo had an idea that will revolutionize the industry, that he managed a multi-national team of software developers to make it a reality, and that a beta is going to launch in another week or two?

Why doesn't Josh just explain what he is working on clearly and concisely so that other people can understand where he is at with progress?

"OMG I have HUGE news I cannot contain myself but to share to you that I have something big! but I cannot tell you what it is or share any details whatsoever!"

I'm pretty sure that Josh reads some of these posts now so this is my advice...

Hardfork PayCoin and make it rewarding to the average user rather than just GAW to dump on the market, obviously you still want to be able to derive some funds from PayCoin but you need to reduce that imbalance by a huge amount or you will never gain the trust of the users.

Stop your useless shills and provide some real steps and information about what you are working on or ideas of things to come.

Make Hashtalk completely unmoderated and/or become a part of Bitcointalk and face the trolls head on.