GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[vizique]

You have to love blockchain technology!!

And you can see why banks are not so keen, transparency built in. And it's this that will enable funds auditing and following pretty easy with known addresses. Paul is certainly on to something that's for sure!!

There's a growing amount of inconsistencies with the way GAW is handling funds on a variety of levels, $, mounting bills and being sued and Coin movements. Finance hasn't been a strong point within the Company.

There's lots of detail still to be filled in with this saga.

Isn't the GAWCFO a former HSBC employee? Highly skilled in the "art" of finance that company is, as we've all learned recently.
So, either out of his depth, clueless about the technology (despite its impact and intricate web of wallets and transactions) on his department or ....?
The money has been an issue for some time we learned ...

So as always, follow the blockchain as it WILL tell the truth about the money.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say there would have been some large holders of XPY at some point that were close to or inside the company, every stable takes a bet on its horse on raceday right? as things were unraveling at GAW and they have, for some months, these people offloaded their coins into the markets. Also, those that were fired, dismissed or chose to leave, if they hadnt already, would also dump.....

It would be interesting to see the if any of this matches up. 

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[vizique]

Well this isn't good
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33208/paycoin-com-important-announcement

[Paul Revere]

Well this isn't good
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33208/paycoin-com-important-announcement

And this is the XPY "A-Team"?!? What a fucking joke. I bet these assholes start re thinking their commitment to this project as they try to sift through hundreds of accounts and try to figure out who was supposed to get paid what and such. I am sure they will get it all sorted out quickly and everyone will get paid everything they are due.  

[cooldgamer]

Well this isn't good
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33208/paycoin-com-important-announcement

Because of higher than expected users

[Vlad2Vlad]

News:

Coinbrief Editor ARRESTED over link to terrorist organization ISIS.

So now I have to wonder if Garza and PayCoin/Paybase were part of a criminal, terrorist attack given PayCoin has been one of the most glaring, high-volume Crypto Currencies in the entire industry.

Do we have any leaked documents about Garza from Al-Queda perhaps?  Hahaaa.

This is gold.  How is this even possible?!  Haha!

[Paul Revere]

Well this isn't good
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33208/paycoin-com-important-announcement

Because of higher than expected users

[coinits]

It is time to post this again

[sobitcoin]

It is time to post this again

 

[kken01]

Vlad you really want to get Mr. Gonzo into world of hurt by associating his company with ISIS & al qaeda due to its success? ok you genius. let homeland security and europol move him to the blacksite in poland then... its pretty close to his current location

oh and i totally agree. paycoin is definetly a tool of terrorism    

man i was hoping vlad the impaler would have been some gaw insider but thats just way stupid so it cant be true  

[not.you]

Some fun stuff here on that Bittrex address. With the limited action on Bittrex you can clearly see each dump. The candles that appear smallish are actually the correct height and appear to have happened solely from this address, the bigger dumps were conducted from multiple addresses all at once so the volume candles are huge:



That 466 XPY cleaved from a huge ~89,000 (then 56,000) XPY juggled premine group that started moving 2/25 ended up on this address. Now you idiots on HT know who is doing the dumping. It is the guy with access to the premine coins, the one who has been shuffling ~2,000,000 XPY non-stop for days since the "hack" to try to obscure their origin. I will give you a hint who this might be:

"Somebody's Bittrex address " : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PS56yiwgomeT2gMp8eV8gmXVxdZX6n69xN.htm

Start tracing that stuff Htr's. You will find that it is all coming from the same origin addresses and getting juggled about to confuse things a bit. Wake the fuck up, you are being played for effing FOOLS!

You won't see exchange buys and sells on the blockchain.  Once they hit an exchange deposit address they may get shuffled around in other exchange addresses but the buys and sells happening on the exchange are all happening in a database kept by the exchange itself.  Coins can change hands many times over on the exchange without ever moving from a blockchain wallet address.

[Paul Revere]

Ahh, thanks for pointing that out. I was unsure about that, but the way things lined up it seemed a little bit too coincidental. The fact that Premine is ending up in this and other exchange wallets remains valid though. I am learning on the fly here. 

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Some fun stuff here on that Bittrex address. With the limited action on Bittrex you can clearly see each dump. The candles that appear smallish are actually the correct height and appear to have happened solely from this address, the bigger dumps were conducted from multiple addresses all at once so the volume candles are huge:



That 466 XPY cleaved from a huge ~89,000 (then 56,000) XPY juggled premine group that started moving 2/25 ended up on this address. Now you idiots on HT know who is doing the dumping. It is the guy with access to the premine coins, the one who has been shuffling ~2,000,000 XPY non-stop for days since the "hack" to try to obscure their origin. I will give you a hint who this might be:

"Somebody's Bittrex address " : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PS56yiwgomeT2gMp8eV8gmXVxdZX6n69xN.htm

Start tracing that stuff Htr's. You will find that it is all coming from the same origin addresses and getting juggled about to confuse things a bit. Wake the fuck up, you are being played for effing FOOLS!

And nobody will ever do a thing to stop him. Because Bitcoiners.

[NewJerseyJess]

Great research ^^ It's a shame it will get written off as fud until the final dump.

[Paul Revere]

Great research ^^ It's a shame it will get written off as fud until the final dump.

Yup, especially since I made a false assumption about the correlation between the exchange wallet and dumps. I freely admit that I am a novice at this, but the rest of my digging showing without a doubt the trail of ownership of the ~2,000,000 XPY currently being juggled, moved, chopped up and recombined since the "hack" and now being transferred to exchanges shows what the average guy in Crypto can do and prove by digging into the blockchain.

Edit to add: It is truly a shame that most of the guys sucked into this mess and hanging out on HT do not bother to do this. Every single one of them should be like a hawk on the blockchain and tracing where the dumpage is coming from, but they seem to prefer to sit around and play padda-cake and blame other people for this scam instead of taking a look at the evidence.

[trixter]

Well this isn't good
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33208/paycoin-com-important-announcement

Because of higher than expected users

I realize you are being sarcastic but ...  I do not understand the logic behind too many users and coins going to random addresses. 

Maybe I am thinking about this wrong when trying to figure out the logic.  I have developed bitcoin apps that deal with the blockchain, process payments, etc (last project was a gambling site so there is money in, out, splits for fees, etc).  I just cant imagine any circumstances that would lead to "too many users" causing coins to go to random addresses where it has to be sorted out later.  I could see double payments or missing payments because of too many users (race condition in  the payment processing software and/or inadequate row locking when doing the payments) but not random addresses.

They know what people staked, they know what coins were generated, it should be straight forward to process payments or even to validate who got paid and who was missed.

The only reason I can think that people accept their response is they have no idea how it all works.  Its just a magic money box to them.

[trixter]

News:

Coinbrief Editor ARRESTED over link to terrorist organization ISIS.

So now I have to wonder if Garza and PayCoin/Paybase were part of a criminal, terrorist attack given PayCoin has been one of the most glaring, high-volume Crypto Currencies in the entire industry.

Do we have any leaked documents about Garza from Al-Queda perhaps?  Hahaaa.

This is gold.  How is this even possible?!  Haha!

wait what?  coinbrief is a news organization.  One of their employees in his spare time (afaik) was found to be funding or attempting to fund ISIS.

Garza, PayCoin/Paybase are a separate entity.  AFAIK the only link between the two is that coinbrief wrote about GAW especially with the publicly accessible emails.

[vancefox]

Great research ^^ It's a shame it will get written off as fud until the final dump.

Yup, especially since I made a false assumption about the correlation between the exchange wallet and dumps. I freely admit that I am a novice at this, but the rest of my digging showing without a doubt the trail of ownership of the ~2,000,000 XPY currently being juggled, moved, chopped up and recombined since the "hack" and now being transferred to exchanges shows what the average guy in Crypto can do and prove by digging into the blockchain.

Edit to add: It is truly a shame that most of the guys sucked into this mess and hanging out on HT do not bother to do this. Every single one of them should be like a hawk on the blockchain and tracing where the dumpage is coming from, but they seem to prefer to sit around and play padda-cake and blame other people for this scam instead of taking a look at the evidence.

You may actually have something. Remember that there is the ability to auto sell and it's only a few confirmations before hitting the exchange account...

Just because you don't see actual exchange sells on the blockchain doesn't mean the sells aren't happening right after they get added to the exchange account...  But it could also coincide with someone else deciding to sell at that exact time after holding his account balance for a while.

Either way, XPY will be going under .001 soon... IMO

[NewJerseyJess]

It's a shame beta.bittrex.com is not up anymore, it would show you the top 50 wallet ballances on their site. Would be possible to track these deposits/dumps

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Great research ^^ It's a shame it will get written off as fud until the final dump.

Yup, especially since I made a false assumption about the correlation between the exchange wallet and dumps. I freely admit that I am a novice at this, but the rest of my digging showing without a doubt the trail of ownership of the ~2,000,000 XPY currently being juggled, moved, chopped up and recombined since the "hack" and now being transferred to exchanges shows what the average guy in Crypto can do and prove by digging into the blockchain.

Edit to add: It is truly a shame that most of the guys sucked into this mess and hanging out on HT do not bother to do this. Every single one of them should be like a hawk on the blockchain and tracing where the dumpage is coming from, but they seem to prefer to sit around and play padda-cake and blame other people for this scam instead of taking a look at the evidence.

You may actually have something. Remember that there is the ability to auto sell and it's only a few confirmations before hitting the exchange account...

Just because you don't see actual exchange sells on the blockchain doesn't mean the sells aren't happening right after they get added to the exchange account...  But it could also coincide with someone else deciding to sell at that exact time after holding his account balance for a while.

Either way, XPY will be going under .001 soon... IMO

This has destroyed people. Why is there no legal action pending here? I'm puzzled...

[owlcatz]

Great research ^^ It's a shame it will get written off as fud until the final dump.

Yup, especially since I made a false assumption about the correlation between the exchange wallet and dumps. I freely admit that I am a novice at this, but the rest of my digging showing without a doubt the trail of ownership of the ~2,000,000 XPY currently being juggled, moved, chopped up and recombined since the "hack" and now being transferred to exchanges shows what the average guy in Crypto can do and prove by digging into the blockchain.

Edit to add: It is truly a shame that most of the guys sucked into this mess and hanging out on HT do not bother to do this. Every single one of them should be like a hawk on the blockchain and tracing where the dumpage is coming from, but they seem to prefer to sit around and play padda-cake and blame other people for this scam instead of taking a look at the evidence.

You may actually have something. Remember that there is the ability to auto sell and it's only a few confirmations before hitting the exchange account...

Just because you don't see actual exchange sells on the blockchain doesn't mean the sells aren't happening right after they get added to the exchange account...  But it could also coincide with someone else deciding to sell at that exact time after holding his account balance for a while.

Either way, XPY will be going under .001 soon... IMO

This has destroyed people. Why is there no legal action pending here? I'm puzzled...

You are obviously blind. Sorry but truth, this will take a long time. The us justice system grinds very slow, but hard in the end.