GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[cooldgamer]

Would you look at that, they're trying to organize a community pump-and-dump

https://hashtalk.org/topic/33226/challenge-to-all-gaw-users-remove-supply-of-xpy-for-a-week-already-up-by-9-19/60

[seedtrue]

Priceless

[Hektur]

So the blatantly obvious lesson learned from all this fiasco is this:

If you are going to do anything unlawful don't use Google. SEC can easily subpoena Google to start their fishing expedition without you ever knowing about it, Google has nasty privacy settings that your dumb employees can use to leak all your e-mails even without a subpoena, Google also adds those pesky DKIM headers that can be used against you...

Seriously though, I did not expect the whole US Govt alphabet to be going after them.

Is there any US Gov't agency not going after him besides the CIA?

[Fargo]

everyone upvote! http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/

[TheMage]

So I want to add some additional information to this conversation, or more of a reminder to the folks here.


I registered at hashtalk, and made a few posts (amazingly I haven't been banned yet!). I've had a few personal convo's with folks, and I want to remind everyone that there are real genuine people that were swept up in the hype being supporters and got swindled.

Why am I posting this?

Well, because 1. I have a soft spot for genuine people and 2. we really shouldn't shun people if in the end they understand what has transpired. Mr Garza has done some very shady and unscrupulous things, but dont directly take it out on others who have been tricked into his weave of deception.


Two people I want to point out here, and sure I may get trolled for it, but they are Scott Fargo and BitJane. I had a long convo with Bitjane and she seems to have moved on to other things. I think (but this is speculation from me since I didn't directly ask) that she now understands what has happened and no longer wants to be associated with GAW. She is trying to help build up another community unassociated with GAW, and I personally give kudos to her for doing so.

On Scott, I have been trading emails back and forth with him and in the spirit of being transparent I will be doing an interview with him. However, I ended up having a 2 hour phone convo with him last night that really proved to me that he is a die hard crypto community member (not a die hard GAW supporter). He is very curious and ambitious about cryptos, and loves to learn about everything that is going on from the technology to businesses (being a news reporter I can understand why he has this desire). In the end, between both persons I am convinced that they are good people and got dragged into this mess. I would think that I am a good judge of people, and I hope this will ease the trolling off a bit (directly, like emails and such).

Also as I mentioned on hashtalk, I offered to consult on the new XYPteam and their new ventures on fixing the code. I have been put in contact with them via a third party but I have not responded yet, mainly because I am trying to figure out if they are a separate group from GAW. If so, I am more than happy to tell them what needs to be fixed. Their community has taken a beating, mainly from the company that has control of the code base, which is unacceptable to me.

I think my reputation along with the folks in this thread who know me can certainly vouch for me. I felt I needed to post this because people are targeting folks who they shouldnt, they should be targeting one and only one person, Mr Garza.


EDIT: Due to the suggestion of someone else, I should state the opinions above are from me and my thoughts on GAW. Not representing any other company or entity.

[SDRebel]

TheMage,
While it would help XPY that you provide input and help them improve, i honestly believe the coin is doomed. It has waaaaay too much baggage to survive. There's also the small detail of someone controlling at least 4.7M coins....unless GAW gave all those coins to XPY, which i'm 99.9% sure won't happen, then there's no hope (in my honest opinion).

[SDRebel]

Here is the latest report regarding GAW by our team. We've included a few new unseen documents and information.

http://coinfire.io/2015/03/06/coin-fire-gaw-miners-catches-sec-ftc-irs-dhs-attention/

A membership of 1 year starts at approximately $20 USD fully paid in bitcoin.

http://coinfire.io/plus/

Very suggestive. It remembers me of something which was supposed to stay at 20 USD.  

 

would be an awesome (bad) joke if it were $20 in bitcoin or one XPY
lol

[inBitweTrust]

I think my reputation along with the folks in this thread who know me can certainly vouch for me. I felt I needed to post this because people are targeting folks who they shouldnt, they should be targeting one and only one person, Mr Garza.

I empathize with many of the victims being baited into this scam but the blame doesn't just exist with Josh and senior management team but directly with the coin itself. The the tiered hyper-inflationary nature, significant premine, centralization, buggy code, and almost everything else about this project was offensive. If part of the group wants to splitoff and produce paycoin 3 than they need to consider that our anger isn't just directed toward the fraud committed by GAW but some fundamental aspects of XPY.

They and you may as well start completely over with a brand new PoS coin or better yet stop producing these things and work on the most legitimate alt or bitcoin itself rather than creating another unnecessary coin.

[SDRebel]

Here is the latest report regarding GAW by our team. We've included a few new unseen documents and information.

http://coinfire.io/2015/03/06/coin-fire-gaw-miners-catches-sec-ftc-irs-dhs-attention/

thanks for bringing it up

[suchmoon]

Priceless
https://i.imgur.com/7X7OIyp.png

I'm winning this one for sure. I hope the prize is a bag of XPY.

[SDRebel]

I think my reputation along with the folks in this thread who know me can certainly vouch for me. I felt I needed to post this because people are targeting folks who they shouldnt, they should be targeting one and only one person, Mr Garza.

I empathize with many of the victims being baited into this scam but the blame doesn't just exist with Josh and senior management team but directly with the coin itself. The the tiered hyper-inflationary nature, significant premine, centralization, buggy code, and almost everything else about this project was offensive. If part of the group wants to splitoff and produce paycoin 3 than they need to consider that our anger isn't just directed toward the fraud committed by GAW but some fundamental aspects of XPY.

agree, so at that point, instead of paycoin 2 or paycoin 3, i believe it's way better to instead work in a coin that really has relevant features and that has been honest from the start
(i.e. coins like neos have great features but don't have the marketing or the backing) ...and then there's the obvious gorilla in the room: litecoin. if all the money and time spent by all the people around XPY were invested in litecoin, then it could be growing a lot more than it has.

[SDRebel]

Priceless
https://i.imgur.com/7X7OIyp.png

I'm winning this one for sure. I hope the prize is a bag of XPY.

lol, outstanding. I agree 100%. SDRebel would vote for you if he as his other 5-6 aliases weren't banned (only the read-only is still unbanned)

[Hektur]

Priceless
https://i.imgur.com/7X7OIyp.png

I'm winning this one for sure. I hope the prize is a bag of XPY.

I almost fell out of my chair when I saw your name because I was laughing so hard.

[popejubs]

Here is the latest report regarding GAW by our team. We've included a few new unseen documents and information.

http://coinfire.io/2015/03/06/coin-fire-gaw-miners-catches-sec-ftc-irs-dhs-attention/

https://i.imgur.com/sKgrUZx.gif

[SDRebel]

Here is the latest report regarding GAW by our team. We've included a few new unseen documents and information.

http://coinfire.io/2015/03/06/coin-fire-gaw-miners-catches-sec-ftc-irs-dhs-attention/

I see you guys did pay your cloudflare bill

[CerebralEdge]

Game, set and match. Mr. Ganza; you're done.

[suchmoon]

So I want to add some additional information to this conversation, or more of a reminder to the folks here.


I registered at hashtalk, and made a few posts (amazingly I haven't been banned yet!). I've had a few personal convo's with folks, and I want to remind everyone that there are real genuine people that were swept up in the hype being supporters and got swindled.

Why am I posting this?

Well, because 1. I have a soft spot for genuine people and 2. we really shouldn't shun people if in the end they understand what has transpired. Mr Garza has done some very shady and unscrupulous things, but dont directly take it out on others who have been tricked into his weave of deception.


Two people I want to point out here, and sure I may get trolled for it, but they are Scott Fargo and BitJane. I had a long convo with Bitjane and she seems to have moved on to other things. I think (but this is speculation from me since I didn't directly ask) that she now understands what has happened and no longer wants to be associated with GAW. She is trying to help build up another community unassociated with GAW, and I personally give kudos to her for doing so.

On Scott, I have been trading emails back and forth with him and in the spirit of being transparent I will be doing an interview with him. However, I ended up having a 2 hour phone convo with him last night that really proved to me that he is a die hard crypto community member (not a die hard GAW supporter). He is very curious and ambitious about cryptos, and loves to learn about everything that is going on from the technology to businesses (being a news reporter I can understand why he has this desire). In the end, between both persons I am convinced that they are good people and got dragged into this mess. I would think that I am a good judge of people, and I hope this will ease the trolling off a bit (directly, like emails and such).

Also as I mentioned on hashtalk, I offered to consult on the new XYPteam and their new ventures on fixing the code. I have been put in contact with them via a third party but I have not responded yet, mainly because I am trying to figure out if they are a separate group from GAW. If so, I am more than happy to tell them what needs to be fixed. Their community has taken a beating, mainly from the company that has control of the code base, which is unacceptable to me.

I think my reputation along with the folks in this thread who know me can certainly vouch for me. I felt I needed to post this because people are targeting folks who they shouldnt, they should be targeting one and only one person, Mr Garza.


EDIT: Due to the suggestion of someone else, I should state the opinions above are from me and my thoughts on GAW. Not representing any other company or entity.

I don't know BitJane but I agree that Scott Fargo from my brief communication with him sounded like a genuine enthusiast and journalist taking a disproportionate amount of blame. Also keep in mind CCN's (not Fargo's personal) relationship with GAW, uncovered in the e-mails and also now in CoinFire's article.

I disagree regarding XPY though. I think you'd be wasting your time with that one. 97% premine was and remains its death warrant, unless TeamXPY can somehow neutralize that and remove GAW completely. Even then, TeamXPY is headed by Adam Matlack aka Huey, "disciple maker" from Texas, also head of XPY Foundation (the "non-profit"). There is something fishy in all this, be careful or the stink will follow you forever

[vnhyp0]

So I want to add some additional information to this conversation, or more of a reminder to the folks here.


I registered at hashtalk, and made a few posts (amazingly I haven't been banned yet!). I've had a few personal convo's with folks, and I want to remind everyone that there are real genuine people that were swept up in the hype being supporters and got swindled.

Why am I posting this?

Well, because 1. I have a soft spot for genuine people and 2. we really shouldn't shun people if in the end they understand what has transpired. Mr Garza has done some very shady and unscrupulous things, but dont directly take it out on others who have been tricked into his weave of deception.


Two people I want to point out here, and sure I may get trolled for it, but they are Scott Fargo and BitJane. I had a long convo with Bitjane and she seems to have moved on to other things. I think (but this is speculation from me since I didn't directly ask) that she now understands what has happened and no longer wants to be associated with GAW. She is trying to help build up another community unassociated with GAW, and I personally give kudos to her for doing so.

On Scott, I have been trading emails back and forth with him and in the spirit of being transparent I will be doing an interview with him. However, I ended up having a 2 hour phone convo with him last night that really proved to me that he is a die hard crypto community member (not a die hard GAW supporter). He is very curious and ambitious about cryptos, and loves to learn about everything that is going on from the technology to businesses (being a news reporter I can understand why he has this desire). In the end, between both persons I am convinced that they are good people and got dragged into this mess. I would think that I am a good judge of people, and I hope this will ease the trolling off a bit (directly, like emails and such).

Also as I mentioned on hashtalk, I offered to consult on the new XYPteam and their new ventures on fixing the code. I have been put in contact with them via a third party but I have not responded yet, mainly because I am trying to figure out if they are a separate group from GAW. If so, I am more than happy to tell them what needs to be fixed. Their community has taken a beating, mainly from the company that has control of the code base, which is unacceptable to me.

I think my reputation along with the folks in this thread who know me can certainly vouch for me. I felt I needed to post this because people are targeting folks who they shouldnt, they should be targeting one and only one person, Mr Garza.


EDIT: Due to the suggestion of someone else, I should state the opinions above are from me and my thoughts on GAW. Not representing any other company or entity.

I don't know BitJane but I agree that Scott Fargo from my brief communication with him sounded like a genuine enthusiast and journalist taking a disproportionate amount of blame. Also keep in mind CCN's (not Fargo's personal) relationship with GAW, uncovered in the e-mails and also now in CoinFire's article.

I disagree regarding XPY though. I think you'd be wasting your time with that one. 97% premine was and remains its death warrant, unless TeamXPY can somehow neutralize that and remove GAW completely. Even then, TeamXPY is headed by Adam Matlack aka Huey, "disciple maker" from Texas, also head of XPY Foundation (the "non-profit"). There is something fishy in all this, be careful or the stink will follow you forever

I will second that Scott Fargo is genuine and taking more blame than he should. I do not know about Bitjane..

[Vlad2Vlad]

Here is the latest report regarding GAW by our team. We've included a few new unseen documents and information.

Coinfire, you know I like you guys but you know I gotta ask this after today's unbelievable fiasco with Coinbrief.

Are you in any way related to, involved with or currently committing acts of terrorism against American companies, on behalf of ISIS or any other extremist Islamic organizations?

Yes, even if you are ISIS, a la Coinbrief, I would expect an honest answer.  lol

You guys know some crazy new shit is gonna hit tomorrow.  Something unreal!  I still can't believe Coinbrief editor [per CNN article] was an idiot ISIS terrorist recruiter.  WOW!  haha!

[SDRebel]

I will second that Scott Fargo is genuine and taking more blame than he should. I do not know about Bitjane..

I think bitjane did wake up a while ago. on twitter she was also calling out Homero to make things right. I think she invited friends to this "investment" and they were losing money. I think that was the breaking point (she mentioned friends but I don't know if it was HT friends or personal/work friends).