Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[ohad]

i didn't block anyone. i'm flooded with hundreds of messages and i cannot get back to everyone on time. in fact that's how it all began.. i posted at the end of may that the direct sale price will be increased x2 in 1st of july because i was indeed flooded by messages, and, the market price was above the direct sale price (at that period of time and still) so it made no sense.

Well Ohad I would like to trust you, but it's only now that you revealed that the sale price was below than the price on bittrex, and the official Twitter profile of TAUCHAIN has published a post that backed up the story about a price increase after July 1st.

So now it would only be fair that you adress this and tell us how the price is going to increase now and give us a roadmap with actual dates?

Otherwise this will start to feel like a scam...

I'm sure those crazy investors, who join in the pump on bittrex or sent him a lot BTC, were misled by him. He never uses an "official" access to make an announcement. I don't think post on BTT is a good choice. Not everyone could check all the posts on this Topic, or I must say nobody. No price increase but his new plan is stop the ICO and wait for a high price, maybe three years after.

can check my latest posts. very easy on bitcointalk. and indeed i dont want buyers who don't follow on bitcointalk.
and, no one was misled by me.
blame http://boards.4chan.org/biz
just google "agoras boards.4chan.org/biz"

[Foerster]

Just to summarize a bit:
The project is many years old and always had complicated quirks.
It's objectives and scope have been modified over time.
A multi-year long presale has been going on to raise funds, but relatively few were raised due to lack interest caused by almost no advertising and little tangible results.

The token (Agoras token / AGRS) has also been listed on Bittrex with the price fluctuating moderately above or below presale price.
The presale continued in parallel to exchange trading and was raised 5% per month with some discount to larger buyers and also 15% more coins if you agreed to lock your tokens until Agoras release.

Then it was decided because Ohad suddenly got too many inquiries, that instead of 5%, the presale price would be raised by 2x on 1st of July. A few days later, this number was increased to 4x and 10x. This caused a sudden influx of buyers who after all these years for the first time felt that it would be more comfortable to buy the tokens now than just to wait and see what happens.
Token sales then spiked and Ohad wrote that he would only sell up to 50% of all tokens and no more tokens would be sold until some software is released and the remaining tokens then could be sold at a much higher valuation. Then suddenly the Bittrex price began to climb sharply
I think then there were some complaints of people who missed out and Ohad decided to increase the sale limit to 60% but suddenly BTC were coming in left and right and the additional 10% got way oversold and he now needs to find a way to distribute the 10 % fairly with the least encouragement to dump (which IMHO means a distribution as even as possible).

[ohlawdy]

The FUD is real in this topic the last 2 days. Or they don't understand what they bought. Sell now cry later....

[IggySe7ven]

Should have known better then to buy this scam coin . wouldn't be surprised of backdoor deals with whales on pump and dump.  He didn't know the coin would generate a price hike when he announced it will go up 3x or 10x or whatever. Like announcing presale till July and saying he raise the price  was not  gonna generate price being driven up. Scam coin.

[nickhiggins123]

This is incredible to watch.

[HIIMHOHAHA]

i didn't block anyone. i'm flooded with hundreds of messages and i cannot get back to everyone on time. in fact that's how it all began.. i posted at the end of may that the direct sale price will be increased x2 in 1st of july because i was indeed flooded by messages, and, the market price was above the direct sale price (at that period of time and still) so it made no sense.

Well Ohad I would like to trust you, but it's only now that you revealed that the sale price was below than the price on bittrex, and the official Twitter profile of TAUCHAIN has published a post that backed up the story about a price increase after July 1st.

So now it would only be fair that you adress this and tell us how the price is going to increase now and give us a roadmap with actual dates?

Otherwise this will start to feel like a scam...

I'm sure those crazy investors, who join in the pump on bittrex or sent him a lot BTC, were misled by him. He never uses an "official" access to make an announcement. I don't think post on BTT is a good choice. Not everyone could check all the posts on this Topic, or I must say nobody. No price increase but his new plan is stop the ICO and wait for a high price, maybe three years after.

can check my latest posts. very easy on bitcointalk. and indeed i dont want buyers who don't follow on bitcointalk.
and, no one was misled by me.
blame http://boards.4chan.org/biz
just google "agoras boards.4chan.org/biz"

A lot of people feel confuse. They get information from different locations at different times so that they make the wrong judgment. Huge people still believe you will pump the price to 10*, how can I say

[Leaflion]

Guys STOP INSULTING OHAD. STOP DIRECTING YOUR ANGER AT EACH OTHER AS WELL.

To my knowledge, he has not made any promises he hasn't kept (although he has made very few of them). Investors willingly put their money into the project.
If a scammer posted their wallet address, you would not blindly send your btc there would you?

All the investors here WILLINGLY invested in the project. Stop complaining. So you lost a few btc in the pump. Ohad had nothing to do with it. People have taken incomplete information and run wild with it.

Yes, Ohad could communicate better. Yes, if he wants investors to support him more, he should be more open with his work. YES, he should update his website if he wants more publicity, recognition and investments.

However, this is not what he's trying to accomplish clearly. He is behaving differently from all the other horrendous ICOs out there with NONEXISTENT products who shamelessly publicize their product and pocket millions in SECONDS.

Stop insulting the man. He's been responding to our queries. I too would like more answers but the reactions here have been absolutely pathetic. If all people here care about is profits, then make your own coin. The point of these technologies is to revolutionize the world. Stop being so shortsighted. We are allowed to hold Ohad accountable, but to insult someone who hasn't done anything to contribute to the meaningless pump? So horrible.

[HIIMHOHAHA]

Everything got dumped! didn't expect it to be so much dump.... i will hold till tomorrow, see what happens and sell at huge loss!

Why you believe he will increase the price? He always change his mind mins by mins

[Foerster]

It's just natural market forces and cycles taking over for the first time after the price was suppressed by Ohads gigantic implicit sell wall for so long. (Token sale directly from Ohad at a fixed price) This wall has now been eaten up.
Ohad's sale would run at the same time as the exchange trading, so the price on exchange would rarely go above the price which one got directly from Ohad.

The coin has been flying under the radar for such a long time, that even a tiny sliver of attention by the general crypto markets means an almost infinite increase of attention which of course also causes price spikes.
Oftentimes, such tiny coins only spike once and you never hear from them again, sometimes the spike many more times and become behemoths. To pick the right investment requires a lot of time, effort and also luck. One should only buy a coin/stock/company if one can carry the consequences. That is the economic system that has transformed or society over the past century and more and the crypto space since it started with Bitcoin.

[earlycoin]

I didn't insult anyone I just pointed out the reason why I lot of people feel cheated now and it is something that needs to be addressed.

Nothing would be better than some real news about project development or a roadmap. The idea of the coin is good, but everybody here at least most of people here are for profits lets not kid ourselves.

I will eagerly be waiting for the news if this coin can produce 20% of the original idea than x10 or x20 is reality...otherwise...

[HIIMHOHAHA]

For anyone who is asking this, Your coins are safe if you 1. Have them/OWN them on Bittrex, 2. Have them in the Omni wallet 3. Ohad has them.

Yes also they will 10X because he will stop selling them and will destroy to old ones not on any of the above. he took 3 years to complete something which is close to complete so that why it will 10X

Your information is out of date, the new one is that he will stop the pre-sale, just simple, until the Agoras release( not promise to burn any tokens at all). Wake up people!

[ohad]

For anyone who is asking this, Your coins are safe if you 1. Have them/OWN them on Bittrex, 2. Have them in the Omni wallet 3. Ohad has them.

Yes also they will 10X because he will stop selling them and will destroy to old ones not on any of the above. he took 3 years to complete something which is close to complete so that why it will 10X

Your information is out of date, the new one is that he will stop the pre-sale, just simple, until the Agoras release( not promise to burn any tokens at all). Wake up people!

what's wrong with selling less or selling in higher price? you got it the other way around

[reffi]

Round 2 about to start, based on charts it cannot crash any more! Easy $3 coming!

[HIIMHOHAHA]

Round 2 about to start, based on charts it cannot crash any more! Easy $3 coming!

How do you get this?

[phonytoast]

Round 2 about to start, based on charts it cannot crash any more! Easy $3 coming!

Looks dead now, not sure if it will grow that much on the exchange.

[martellalex]

Guys - don't feed the trolls

They've been starving ever since poloniex disabled their trollbox   

[ranaasad555]

Guys - don't feed the trolls

They've been starving ever since poloniex disabled their trollbox   

you have any news about that the price going up or not i invested my all btc in agrs i am so worried about that.

[bustamovie]

Hi There,
I just want to be sure so i ask you.
Can i send my AGRS to my bitcoin wallet (TREZOR)  and they will arrive?
Will they be shown as AGRS? Or will I have to add a custom token like with ethereum tokens or something like that.
Could someone explain what i should do to get my tokens in a safe place, step by step?

or is it just as simple as to send them to a bitcoin adress and see AGRS tokens pop up in my wallet.

Thanks in advance guys,

I love to see this project succesfully, Ohad keep up the good work man!

[sotisoti]

Hi There,
I just want to be sure so i ask you.
Can i send my AGRS to my bitcoin wallet (TREZOR)  and they will arrive?
Will they be shown as AGRS? Or will I have to add a custom token like with ethereum tokens or something like that.
Could someone explain what i should do to get my tokens in a safe place, step by step?

or is it just as simple as to send them to a bitcoin adress and see AGRS tokens pop up in my wallet.

Thanks in advance guys,

I love to see this project succesfully, Ohad keep up the good work man!

AGRS is an OMNI asset which can be stored in an omni wallet, alongside your bitcoin and other OMNI assets like USDT.  The omni wallet is very widely used for these assets. You can google omni wallet and then make your mind up.

So can it be stored in trezor or ledger wallet or not?

[Foerster]

1.Can i send my AGRS to my bitcoin wallet (TREZOR)  and they will arrive?
2.Will they be shown as AGRS?

1. Yes
2. No, they will not be shown and you can not move them with TREZOR.

You can send them to any Bitcoin address from which you control the keys, but for your AGRS to be visible and movable the BTC address must be imported to an Omni wallet. So it's probably not a wise thing to use Trezor because I think it's rather complicated to get hold of the keys.
Should you decide that you want to move your ARGS out of TREZOR you AFAIK have to:
1) Install Electrum or any other wallet that supports key restoration by seed phrases
2) "Import" your Trezor wallet to Electrum by using the 12 word seed
3) Get a hold of the specific private keys in the wallet which are associated with your Agoras
4) Use those to import the wallet into an Omni wallet
5) See and send Agoras

I don't guarantee for anything so better do your own research wisely.