Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[ICOcountdown.com]

Instead of using network hashrate to solve blocks, could it be put towards something of benefit such as folding proteins? Could this be something that the network could vote on how to allocate the miners? For how advanced this project is, it seems primitive in the crypto world to just do PoW on blocks.

i think it's impossible. the only memoryless distribution is the uniform distribution, therefore we must have maximum entropy (=minimum usefulness) in order for everyone to have a fair chance to mine.

Okay that is reasonable. Are you familiar with the IOTA project and how they have created a blockless distributed ledger? It seems like if we do have to have blocks, and they have to be specific to doing Tau work, then the system design could be better. I have no practical experience in this, so my thoughts could easily be worthless on the subject.

To make it blockless I don't know that will work - I haven't seen the code for it yet - isn't it only a concept you must solve blocks to make it a blockchain inherently and keep its security protocol.

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[ohad]

Okay that is reasonable. Are you familiar with the IOTA project and how they have created a blockless distributed ledger? It seems like if we do have to have blocks, and they have to be specific to doing Tau work, then the system design could be better. I have no practical experience in this, so my thoughts could easily be worthless on the subject.

distributed ledger is easy, the big question is how much it costs to break it. and as far as i know, nothing known to compete with traditional proof of work

[cryptico]

Hello I cannot send agrs from omni wallet to bittrex.

Tried 4 transactions all got 0 confirmations the btc fee is taken but then no agrs are sent transaction disappeared from the AGRS one and balance go back in tot amount.

this is the last transaction I tried to do

for 10 agrs

{
    "txid" : "3f7cb26b28c99a6acce06591155f44c88fc1a119c4413b5b626131a0c2dea7f5",
    "fee" : "0.00005140",
    "sendingaddress" : "1GmYSAf4g9LTKzEUxYmDzJr7STWTvQUFRC",
    "referenceaddress" : "1H8cCnNLyUZnRqSMdqZ6XAH6kGP431zBkq",
    "ismine" : true,
    "version" : 0,
    "type_int" : 0,
    "type" : "Simple Send",
    "propertyid" : 58,
    "divisible" : true,
    "amount" : "10.00000000",
    "confirmations" : 0
}

the btc transactions fees of my wallet note the last ones remained unconfirmed. last transaction should have today date but it has still yesterday one

"Confirmed","Date","Type","Label","Address","Amount (BTC)","ID"
"true","2016-07-28T15:21:01","Sent to","","Omni transaction","-0.00007870","3f7cb26b28c99a6acce06591155f44c88fc1a119c4413b5b626131a0c2dea7f5-000"
"false","2016-07-28T15:21:01","Sent to","","1H8cCnNLyUZnRqSMdqZ6XAH6kGP431zBkq","-0.00002730","e9dd3fc7dd687563fafd171dfc93b7a4cec14c055a2da339f33fd69d55df40c0-001"
"false","2016-07-28T15:21:01","Sent to","","","-0.00002632","e9dd3fc7dd687563fafd171dfc93b7a4cec14c055a2da339f33fd69d55df40c0-000"
"false","2016-07-28T15:21:01","Sent to","","1H8cCnNLyUZnRqSMdqZ6XAH6kGP431zBkq","-0.00002730","505be6c54aa76cce1bbd5f9ac3b39e9010ca940dc8b73d5755031df4a0e73397-001"
"false","2016-07-28T15:21:01","Sent to","","","-0.00001285","505be6c54aa76cce1bbd5f9ac3b39e9010ca940dc8b73d5755031df4a0e73397-000"
"true","2016-07-28T09:54:53","Sent to","","1H8cCnNLyUZnRqSMdqZ6XAH6kGP431zBkq","-0.00002730","ed621b4878afebbedb107ba3c1caa433d507acb5656bc89e3d2ba13b24f7a983-001"
"true","2016-07-28T09:54:53","Sent to","","","0.00000000","ed621b4878afebbedb107ba3c1caa433d507acb5656bc89e3d2ba13b24f7a983-000"
"true","2016-06-30T20:46:49","Received with","","Omni transaction","0.00002730","09cc1257d91da3f1572b0883f57772705925a487f8fc808f7d7eb9dcec1158d0-000"
"true","2016-06-30T20:02:29","Sent to","","Omni transaction","-0.00005954","67bedfeafb4a494e6d2fe5cdb80715cdfd7840a9d87dff8141484de353430144-000"
"true","2016-06-30T19:58:10","Received with","","Omni transaction","0.00002730","f7dec0659ead46ee4ae86ef71d28df09a4f781c45d300e5c5b105b1d7694f9af-000"
"true","2016-06-29T22:13:28","Sent to","","Omni transaction","-0.00007798","5f8da9e6b842a006d9e2270ec2a0333a6178da8ca228507ba83e3e9773149666-000"
"true","2016-06-29T21:38:45","Received with","tau","1GmYSAf4g9LTKzEUxYmDzJr7STWTvQUFRC","0.04972200","6200ddaf67ce6d5b814c9a5a2bb246612119199b9c2afeaeedb7444b8d758c7c-000"
"true","2016-06-29T20:26:01","Received with","","Omni transaction","0.00002730","367a9aed2cfb1f55bcc9743f157d54ce1c0f7484f100421e2dcaefae7aebb577-000"


I dont see any link for support in their site.. only report an error http://omnichest.info/reporterror.aspx  but there is no way for them to get back to me only connect with the team link? but I dont have a github account and I dont think a linkedin message to the dev will do??

I have used the wallet before with the same addresses for sending and receiving did not have any problem

edit I have sent them an email to    info@omniwallet.org will let you know their reply

[John_Paul]

distributed ledger is easy, the big question is how much it costs to break it. and as far as i know, nothing known to compete with traditional proof of work

Will Tau-chain use PoW to secure its ledger? Will Agoras use PoW secure its ledger?

[Luckybit]

Ohad, at your next convenience can you create a new slack which you're in full control of, lets start rolling on these community ideas.

 

https://rocket.chat/

[ICOcountdown.com]

Ohad, at your next convenience can you create a new slack which you're in full control of, lets start rolling on these community ideas.

 

https://rocket.chat/

Join the telegram guys:

Telegram Link: https://telegram.me/joinchat/DM7KGApNHMhsQWhmdcgfng

[Tobo]

Is there an ETA for Tau-Chain and Agoras to come out live for testing? 

[ICOcountdown.com]

Is there an ETA for Tau-Chain and Agoras to come out live for testing? 

Hopefully you get the reference 

[firefighters]

Why there is a Tao,which is starting ICO now?

[Rw13enlib88]

Why there is a Tao,which is starting ICO now?

where did you get that from?
link?

ICO already started. You can buy from bittrex or from the ICO.

[Sam123]

Why there is a Tao,which is starting ICO now?

where did you get that from?
link?

ICO already started. You can buy from bittrex or from the ICO.

Tao nothing to do with this project.
Their ico started few days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567647.0;topicseen

[ICOcountdown.com]

Tau-Chain weathers the storm once again. 

[infovortice2013]

Tauchain prices flying again wooohooo 

[kjn311]

Change request:

Name change Agoras tokens to Tau (TAU) or Taucoin.

I think the coin should be more associated with the chain even though tauchain does not have a native coin. Similar to maidsafe as the coin and network have the same name even though they are to two different entities.

Yes this is minor but more of a marketing thing.

[ohad]

Change request:

Name change Agoras tokens to Tau (TAU) or Taucoin.

I think the coin should be more associated with the chain even though tauchain does not have a native coin. Similar to maidsafe as the coin and network have the same name even though they are to two different entities.

Yes this is minor but more of a marketing thing.

it might be the case now that the token is (somehow mistakingly) associated with tau, but, once the products will be ready, the difference will be quite visible.

[thejaytiesto]

So what I was talking about some pages ago happened: Bitfinex fucked up for some hours and people was scared. This is why im not investing on any coin that doesn't let me store the coins myself locally to hold them myself. Trusting exchanges or other people to hold coins for you is nonsense and very risky... unfortunately I don't see a way to securely invest in Tauchain.

Funny that I mentioned this not a long time ago and now Bitfinex has been hacked and everyone is fearing they will never see their coins back.

This is why im not asking in coins that don't have wallets if I need to keep the tokens long term. I just can't trust exchanges long term, it's a bad idea.

[BoscoMurray]

So what I was talking about some pages ago happened: Bitfinex fucked up for some hours and people was scared. This is why im not investing on any coin that doesn't let me store the coins myself locally to hold them myself. Trusting exchanges or other people to hold coins for you is nonsense and very risky... unfortunately I don't see a way to securely invest in Tauchain.

Funny that I mentioned this not a long time ago and now Bitfinex has been hacked and everyone is fearing they will never see their coins back.

This is why im not asking in coins that don't have wallets if I need to keep the tokens long term. I just can't trust exchanges long term, it's a bad idea.

Did you see this response to your original post? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950309.msg15333385#msg15333385

You don't need to keep IDNI Agoras on an exchange. You can keep them in your OMNI wallet.

[kjn311]

So what I was talking about some pages ago happened: Bitfinex fucked up for some hours and people was scared. This is why im not investing on any coin that doesn't let me store the coins myself locally to hold them myself. Trusting exchanges or other people to hold coins for you is nonsense and very risky... unfortunately I don't see a way to securely invest in Tauchain.

Funny that I mentioned this not a long time ago and now Bitfinex has been hacked and everyone is fearing they will never see their coins back.

This is why im not asking in coins that don't have wallets if I need to keep the tokens long term. I just can't trust exchanges long term, it's a bad idea.

Did you see this response to your original post? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950309.msg15333385#msg15333385

You don't need to keep IDNI Agoras on an exchange. You can keep them in your OMNI wallet.

Agreed. OMNI wallet.

[statdude]

Is Agoras live yet or presale still going? 42mm coins or are some burned?

[m4nki]

Is Agoras live yet or presale still going? 42mm coins or are some burned?

Presale is still going on (on Bittrex). Once Tau is ready, whatever number of coins are still unsold will be burned.