MrWhiteBites
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September 19, 2016, 12:54:05 PM |
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This development project looks very interesting, count me in!
I love long time holds, they have always proven to be the best results, take my Signature Coin for example, IOC (took 2 years to see amazing returns) . I see this project having great success in the long term between 1 to 2 years.
So anyone thinking of investing, bare this in mind, be prepared to wait 1 to 2 years before you see fruit for your investment.
Keep up the great work Ohad, there is a special feeling about this.
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ohad (OP)
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September 19, 2016, 01:18:34 PM |
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regarding the concensus algorithm, we'll decide collaboratively over tau. it'll begin with some mechanism (which doesn't really matter) and evolve into what we make it
Is there a fast way to replace standard PoW consensus mechanism? (as one scenario of many others) Miners could threaten to attack the system if the community will dare to start a discussion about replacing the consensus mechanism if the concensus algorithm is able to change itself then it's inevitably not-exactly-pow, and to determine to which extent it's mutable and still keep the basic network premises, is to be done collaboratively. there is no one answer and the answers should be taken in broad concensus regarding proven truths over tau.
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Tau-Chain & Agoras
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MrWhiteBites
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September 19, 2016, 01:47:55 PM |
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Cryptico, [04.09.16 16:59] Exactly wasnt agora a market for that also?
icocountdown, [04.09.16 16:59] yes
icocountdown, [04.09.16 16:59] but thats not the whole concept
icocountdown, [04.09.16 16:59] tau is more about smart contract programming with decidability
icocountdown, [04.09.16 16:59] and semantic web
icocountdown, [04.09.16 16:59] basically artificial intelligence
Cryptico, [04.09.16 16:59] Skynet
Cryptico, [04.09.16 16:59] But I'm talking about agora not tau
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] well it will be connected
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] agoras is finance on tau
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] and intelligent finance
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] for example it might try to keep itself alive by setting up distributed nodes
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] if it gets that intelligent
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] ohad warned me a while ago when we start genesis its important to get the rules right
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:00] so it doesnt turn into skynet
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:01] Ok so it is quite accurate that it can be skynet
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:01] yes it CAN be skynet
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:01] it learns for itself
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:01] you can ask it questions and stuff
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:01] and it will act
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:01] But this is tau not agora per say correct?
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:01] and it will learn value of knowledge
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] tauchain is not agoras
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] but they are connected
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] finance is connected
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:02] Yes
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] for example
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] in order to keep its servers running
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] it needs financial instrument
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:02] so it could potentially pay servers and deploy its own blockchain
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:02] You are talking about agrs
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] yes
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:03] Ok
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] so it needs agoras
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] even it can trade on markets if it wants
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] it can do any sort of analyis
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] thats the vision anyway
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] for example
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] if you owned all the knowledge in the world
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] what would you do with it?
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:03] its there for you to get
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:04] but u cannot process it all
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:04] and then lets say
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:04] tau processes it all
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:05] That's scary as (bad language)
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:05] yeah thats why we need smart people on the genesis
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:05] because this is not a joke bro
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:05] this is a (bad language) very big thing
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:06] Yes but what if the Genesis rule than are decided to change between users
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:06] After genesis
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:06] no there is very fundamental rules
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:06] that cannot be changed
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:06] Ok
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:06] so we need to give its mind correct
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:06] at genesis
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:06] Ok but this is a very difficult task
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:06] so you are basically buying right now a vote in how this thing is gonna act
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:07] How can you be sure you are setting the very good ones when there are millions of combination possible
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:07] you basically need to make sure that its not agnostic
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:07] and it has some rational mind
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:07] like it cant do weird stuff
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:07] You need to be sure it has morality
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:07] And ethics
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:08] yes excatly
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:08] How do we do that?
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:08] you need to set rules for that
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:08] like it can and cannot do certain things
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:08] But there are too many specifics on which an action can fall into a Grey area
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:08] In theory
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:09] thats why we need people to be a part of the project
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:09] because if it gets released on genesis we dont know what we are releasing
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:09] we need very specific rule sets of what its gonna do
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:09] so we need smart people
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:09] to basically try and work it out
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:09] Ok i believe once you have the coding it might potentially take another year to set the rules
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:10] But since it is open source what if a sick mind take the code and set his owns rules before genesis
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:10] that is a problem
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:10] You are not going to release the public code for Genesis until we set the rules I suppose
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:10] but you must support ohad because he has good intentions
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:10] that is one of the rules
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:11] the good artifical intelligence
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:11] will fight the bad artificial intelligence
Babu SK, [04.09.16 17:11] [ Voice message ]
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:11] that will probably be a possibility
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:11] Yes but we need to make sure that none launch Genesis with its own set of rules before ohad does
icocountdown, [04.09.16 17:11] thats why you must support ohads work
Cryptico, [04.09.16 17:11] Oh my God this is (bad language) terminator in real life lol Here is a conversation I had with a Tau community member as to why we need to support Ohad and more people to be involved at genesis for setting rules. To learn more view the condensed summary by Ohad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKhzo_60f6YVery good read!
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If you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly
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alexcfr
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September 19, 2016, 01:55:53 PM |
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MrWhiteBites
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September 20, 2016, 03:56:42 AM |
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C-cex is a really low status / crap coin exchange, there is really no need to be added there. It will not in any way help the project, if anything tarnish Bittrex is absolutely fine right now, then once developments are released, Poloniex should be the next target, no where else. Then once on polo you can think about the top chinese exchange. So speaking from a vast experience, forget these other exchanges.
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LiskEnterprise
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September 20, 2016, 12:31:05 PM |
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I use C-Cex.com and never had any problems and it lists many tokens and is easy to use. Fine if you want to trade somewhere else but there is nearly no volume on the other exchange. I think a few more exchanges would be good for the token and the publicity. No need to hide or hoard a good thing. ------------------------------------- TO GET LISTED: https://c-cex.com/?id=vote#suggestSimply fill out the form ----------------------------------- Hello! We have 2 options: 1 - You can add the coin on the voting page - https://c-cex.com/?id=vote . We will surely consider adding it if it gets enough votes and the community shows enough interest. 2 - We can list a coin or asset for 3 BTC immediately. Have a good day! Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Thanks! -------------------------- So we can begin to buy and sell here. I have a lot of coins here i would sell to move to Argoras. -------------------
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ICOcountdown.com
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September 20, 2016, 05:20:57 PM |
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I use C-Cex.com and never had any problems and it lists many tokens and is easy to use. Fine if you want to trade somewhere else but there is nearly no volume on the other exchange. I think a few more exchanges would be good for the token and the publicity. No need to hide or hoard a good thing. ------------------------------------- TO GET LISTED: https://c-cex.com/?id=vote#suggestSimply fill out the form ----------------------------------- Hello! We have 2 options: 1 - You can add the coin on the voting page - https://c-cex.com/?id=vote . We will surely consider adding it if it gets enough votes and the community shows enough interest. 2 - We can list a coin or asset for 3 BTC immediately. Have a good day! Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Thanks! -------------------------- So we can begin to buy and sell here. I have a lot of coins here i would sell to move to Argoras. ------------------- Targeted effort should be Poloniex, but more exchanges means more liquidity: https://poloniex.com/coinRequestYou can do it people
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Sam123
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September 20, 2016, 05:36:20 PM |
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I use C-Cex.com and never had any problems and it lists many tokens and is easy to use. Fine if you want to trade somewhere else but there is nearly no volume on the other exchange. I think a few more exchanges would be good for the token and the publicity. No need to hide or hoard a good thing. ------------------------------------- TO GET LISTED: https://c-cex.com/?id=vote#suggestSimply fill out the form ----------------------------------- Hello! We have 2 options: 1 - You can add the coin on the voting page - https://c-cex.com/?id=vote . We will surely consider adding it if it gets enough votes and the community shows enough interest. 2 - We can list a coin or asset for 3 BTC immediately. Have a good day! Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Thanks! -------------------------- So we can begin to buy and sell here. I have a lot of coins here i would sell to move to Argoras. ------------------- Targeted effort should be Poloniex, but more exchanges means more liquidity: https://poloniex.com/coinRequestYou can do it people I agree with Alex
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LiskEnterprise
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September 21, 2016, 04:03:33 AM |
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How will Poloniex accept it without a block explorer? So the only place we are listed is with a recently hacked exchange - bittrex.com? At this stage this is not a coin or a platform it is a token. Lest get reasonable ----------------------- https://c-cex.com/?id=vote#suggestSimply fill out the form ----------------------------------- Hello! We have 2 options: 1 - You can add the coin on the voting page - https://c-cex.com/?id=vote . We will surely consider adding it if it gets enough votes and the community shows enough interest. 2 - We can list a coin or asset for 3 BTC immediately. Have a good day! Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Thanks!
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LiskEnterprise
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September 21, 2016, 04:11:00 AM |
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Targeted effort should be Poloniex, but more exchanges means more liquidity:
https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
You can do it people..----------------------------------- If this can be done lets do it. Best in a combined team effort. Lets release a time and day and twitter, FB, email etc everyone involved with TauChain. With the answers all clear as to how to submit. https://poloniex.com/coinRequestName of token, Token symbol, Forum thread address, Blockchain info, website url, innovations over other coins, If we a couple of hundred do it over a few day span we will get attention and not lost in the noise.
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MrWhiteBites
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September 22, 2016, 05:26:40 PM |
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Targeted effort should be Poloniex, but more exchanges means more liquidity:
https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
You can do it people..----------------------------------- If this can be done lets do it. Best in a combined team effort. Lets release a time and day and twitter, FB, email etc everyone involved with TauChain. With the answers all clear as to how to submit. https://poloniex.com/coinRequestName of token, Token symbol, Forum thread address, Blockchain info, website url, innovations over other coins, If we a couple of hundred do it over a few day span we will get attention and not lost in the noise. Poloniex will ask what special features this coin has EG: what makes it special/different. This is the most highly technical coin i have ever seen, i really would not know how to answer this. Would be great if there was a web designer here also, could really do with a nice looking website.
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Rando
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September 23, 2016, 09:46:55 AM |
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...(Even though I am (apparently) no longer "on" the Tau project.)...
What is the status with him?
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ohad (OP)
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September 23, 2016, 10:54:17 AM |
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...(Even though I am (apparently) no longer "on" the Tau project.)...
What is the status with him? his status is up to him. he's welcome to collaborate on tau as much as he wants, and was always so.
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Tau-Chain & Agoras
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googie4
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September 24, 2016, 12:42:38 AM |
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Targeted effort should be Poloniex, but more exchanges means more liquidity:
https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
You can do it people..----------------------------------- If this can be done lets do it. Best in a combined team effort. Lets release a time and day and twitter, FB, email etc everyone involved with TauChain. With the answers all clear as to how to submit. https://poloniex.com/coinRequestName of token, Token symbol, Forum thread address, Blockchain info, website url, innovations over other coins, If we a couple of hundred do it over a few day span we will get attention and not lost in the noise. Poloniex will ask what special features this coin has EG: what makes it special/different. This is the most highly technical coin i have ever seen, i really would not know how to answer this. Would be great if there was a web designer here also, could really do with a nice looking website. Personally I like the way the site looks. It's straight and too the point about the technology and Ohad's thoughts, without all the bells and whistles and animation. It just has a feel of like Ohad legitimately working and believing, vs lets say a scam coin paying someone for a flashy website.
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infovortice2013
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September 24, 2016, 01:58:41 PM |
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the team is very busy working on proyect. and well financiated, dont see the reason to add the coin to other exchanges at this moment and waste his precious time helping to install wallet and explain to use it etc... BItrex is working fine at this time.
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dx5
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September 25, 2016, 01:24:43 AM |
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Will Tau Chain be like the Wolfram language?
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LiskEnterprise
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September 25, 2016, 02:31:45 AM |
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Will Tau Chain be like the Wolfram language?
Also is there any clear write up on how this project is different from MaidSafe and Synereo? They seem to be very active with a lot of Devs.
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dx5
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September 25, 2016, 03:11:44 AM |
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Will Tau Chain be like the Wolfram language?
Also is there any clear write up on how this project is different from MaidSafe and Synereo? They seem to be very active with a lot of Devs. It's completely different than those. It's more like a super computer, and the storage is not to store videos and pictures, but rather rules.
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MrWhiteBites
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September 25, 2016, 03:54:17 AM |
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the team is very busy working on proyect. and well financiated, dont see the reason to add the coin to other exchanges at this moment and waste his precious time helping to install wallet and explain to use it etc... BItrex is working fine at this time.
Fully Agree! Looking at Bittrex, i see the price has been bought up to 27K as more and more people learn about the "futuristic" (i think is an appropriate word) developments happening, the more the coin will grow, which is great for investors and developers, its always nice to see your hard work and dedication get the recognition it deserves in reflection of the price. Looking forward to the Tau-Chain release, which i believe will be the next and biggest release? Also. NOTE: To anyone wanting to ask questions about Comparing this project against others. There is a really simple answer to this. Simply, You cant. So please dont ask, there are a couple of videos, pod casts with Ohad talking about the whole project, i will try and find link, its amazing to listen to and will make you understand more, although it is highly technical and advanced whats happening here, i am not ashamed to hold my hands up by saying i only understood about 30% of what was said.
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If you don't know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly
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