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August 28, 2015, 07:01:07 PM
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So does anyone know where I can get my hands on some FPGA's?  Are there other mfr's that will work?  Please advise.

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August 28, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
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Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.

"Vanillacoin was engineered from the ground up and is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking." Taken from the Vanillacoin website and that is 100% accurate. Also the routing and how the network behaves is totally different.

Well if the website is 100% accurate then mapofcoins will start a new genesis with VNL being a standalone (alongside BTC, BCN, NXT & XRP).

It will not link to BTC.
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August 28, 2015, 07:08:30 PM
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Can you submit coins here with different codebases? Seems this will link it to BTC... or?

They won't add it until the proper rights are attributed to the proper authors. Meaning bitcoin code needs to be attributed in the "made from scratch" vanilla code.

"Vanillacoin was engineered from the ground up and is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking." Taken from the Vanillacoin website and that is 100% accurate. Also the routing and how the network behaves is totally different.

Well if the website is 100% accurate then mapofcoins will start a new genesis with VNL being a standalone (alongside BTC, BCN, NXT & XRP).

It will not link to BTC.

Thank you for the info ^^

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August 28, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
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So does anyone know where I can get my hands on some FPGA's?  Are there other mfr's that will work?  Please advise.

I'll ask around if there are any plans on publicly release software for other FPGAs and report back if I got an answer Smiley

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August 29, 2015, 06:59:17 AM
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Something like this?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/FPGA-Lancelot-botcion-miner-not-a-preoder-Ship-now-By-DHL-EMS-/191062390387?nav=SEARCH
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August 29, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
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"ZeroTime is now widely deployed. It will by default replace block confirmation transactions in future releases.

Thank you for your support." - John-Connor

Source: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/173/zerotime/9

According to github, version 0.3.3 is being prepared, I hope that it will hold this change Smiley

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August 29, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
Last edit: August 29, 2015, 06:11:56 PM by bitcoin carpenter
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

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August 29, 2015, 06:39:24 PM
Last edit: August 29, 2015, 07:04:38 PM by etoque
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it is possible kiwii have problem ? Can't connect since yesterday, I got Error Connecting (ETIMEDOUT)

Edit: Ok its work now
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August 29, 2015, 09:03:16 PM
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.
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August 29, 2015, 09:19:47 PM
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Ummmm...  imagine not needing third party liability, or maybe you think redundancy is a good business model.

Decentralized systems demand decentralized solutions.


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August 29, 2015, 11:38:01 PM
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.


Polinex still is waiting for 1 confirmation....maybe as people start to trust Zerotime they can remove it but exchanges won't want to rush to do that I imagine due to their focus on tight security.


I disagree about the third party instant processing of third parties like Bitpay.......I haven't used them but assuming they are almost like using some kind of PayPal for BTC I would say there is a world of difference even if the user experience feels the same. Many people might not care but the difference between centralised and decentralised is everything. Especially if the centralised option goes through the banking system.....kind of misses the point of cryptocurency IMO.
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August 30, 2015, 12:00:40 AM
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.


Polinex still is waiting for 1 confirmation....maybe as people start to trust Zerotime they can remove it but exchanges won't want to rush to do that I imagine due to their focus on tight security.


I disagree about the third party instant processing of third parties like Bitpay.......I haven't used them but assuming they are almost like using some kind of PayPal for BTC I would say there is a world of difference even if the user experience feels the same. Many people might not care but the difference between centralised and decentralised is everything. Especially if the centralised option goes through the banking system.....kind of misses the point of cryptocurency IMO.

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August 30, 2015, 03:16:50 AM
Last edit: August 30, 2015, 03:40:25 AM by pseudonymdude
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Been reading the debate about zero time and doublespending...

My conclusion for the time being is that zero time allows instant transfers whenever there isn't a malcious attack.

And although it has not been peer reviewed to stop double spending, it at least has been reviewed by poloniex enough to make it as secure as bitcoin with taking onlyone confirmation before deposit is clear.

     So it takes less than 10 minutes per block and allows100 transactions/sec, while under a double spend attack ie never, and is istantaneous the rest of the time.


Correct me if I'm wrong but this is pretty Frick in sweet  isn't it?
Probably even a game changer.

Disclaimer, I own a few btc's worth of vnl, but I own more xmr and btc than I  do VNL.

So does that mean Poloniex now accepts deposits using zerotime, or is there still a 1 confirmation hold time? I think the 1 confirmation was already pretty fast, so I do not know if this would even make much of a difference transferring to/from exchanges.

Where I could see zerotime being more useful would be in retail establishments, buying a bagel and coffee for instance, the proprietor could confirm in near real-time the transaction is valid. Of course, most places that accept Bitcoin already use Bitpay or something similar, and they transfer the already low risk to a third party, so even in this scenario I am not sure how useful this is in the real world. It sounds cool and all, but I am struggling to find the real value here.

Again, consider the following scenario:

Your balance has run out and you need to get funds to miningrigrentals because a coin that you feel like you need to mine just launched.

Let's say miningrigrentals accepts both X and BTC.

X confirms in seconds.  BTC confirms in an average of 10 minutes but sometimes takes hours.

Do you choose to use X or BTC?


Two of the most important aspects of a payment system are security and speed.  A number of people posting in this thread don't seem to understand how big of a deal Zerotime is.  Now, I understand that you don't yet have third-party confirmation of how secure Zerotime is, but assuming it's secure, it is a fundamental improvement over the way Bitcoin's network works.

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August 30, 2015, 05:25:17 AM
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I would add to that, speed and security and hopefully fully anonymous will never get old. Most new coins are based on some gimmick that while impressive most likely won't be used. When all those coins are forgotten VNL will still be fast, secure and anonymous. Its is deceptively simple and not earth shattering but when it comes to making payments no one wants to wait, take on risk and have everyone know what they are doing. These are things that like I said don't get old....ever.
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August 30, 2015, 11:12:15 AM
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August 30, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
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LMAO this coin was 10 cents a few days ago. RIP VNL
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August 30, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
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LMAO this coin was 10 cents a few days ago. RIP VNL

Quality BTT comment right there.

Show me another project with a single developer and similar activity: https://github.com/john-connor

Current price doesn't matter and it is still up by huge % compared to past months.


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August 30, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
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I don't care what people say....specially not what they say on BCT. I'm also in the IT business and people or colleagues are always competing to each other for their own benefit. I don't know who John Connor is and to be honest, i don't give a shit. What i like is that he is going to be the black sheep of the crypto world with his ideas. The Donald Trump of BCT. And that means one thing....or you like him, or you hate him...that's it.....and i love it!!
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August 30, 2015, 06:30:26 PM
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John started an official Wiki for Vanillacoin, you can reach it from the "Resource" tab on the official website or directly with the following link:

http://vanillacoin.net/wiki/


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August 30, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
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Everything is going well, but no one helped me with POS and not working. And the wallet is not on all the computers. John should pay their attention to the problem of windows on wallet will be difficult to gain the trust of new supporters of the coin.
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