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September 10, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

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Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.

AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]


     my 280x is getting  ~3 - 12 vnl per day  Wink, but lookout if those chinese gpu farms return  

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September 10, 2015, 08:27:27 AM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

I was minig it last winter  Grin and as it is getting cold here I am comming back with my rig 5xR9 270.
Last winter it used to generate at least 20-50 coins etc / day, nowadays after 3 days of non stop minig I minted 0.5 coin altogether.

Isnt that strange? With this, it is totally unprofitable to mine VNL although I love this coin, never sold any, nor I will until they are pair to BTC Smiley

What is todays approach to mining VNL? Did FPGA dominated this? I have around 80 Mh/s per card in sgminer but I cannot get more. What should I be getting from such card and expectin to mint per day?

I also have some 7950 still resting in closet, should I turn them on? What shoud I expect here from those cards?

Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.

AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]

I have tried that but was getting only about 1 mhs / card and still it seemed to me it is even not accepted by pool (mining on vanillacoin.net I think). What was that problem?

Do you mine with smelter personally? I would have to get at least 10x more hashes in smelter to be efficient
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September 10, 2015, 08:28:12 AM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

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Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.

AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]


     my 280x is getting  ~3 - 12 vnl per day  Wink, but lookout if those chinese gpu farms return  

That is nice! What is your hash on this card? Do you use smelter or sgminer?
Can you place your config pls?
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September 10, 2015, 08:38:10 AM
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some nice buy walls up today  Wink

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September 10, 2015, 08:40:21 AM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

I was minig it last winter  Grin and as it is getting cold here I am comming back with my rig 5xR9 270.
Last winter it used to generate at least 20-50 coins etc / day, nowadays after 3 days of non stop minig I minted 0.5 coin altogether.

Isnt that strange? With this, it is totally unprofitable to mine VNL although I love this coin, never sold any, nor I will until they are pair to BTC Smiley

What is todays approach to mining VNL? Did FPGA dominated this? I have around 80 Mh/s per card in sgminer but I cannot get more. What should I be getting from such card and expectin to mint per day?

I also have some 7950 still resting in closet, should I turn them on? What shoud I expect here from those cards?

Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.

AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]

I have tried that but was getting only about 1 mhs / card and still it seemed to me it is even not accepted by pool (mining on vanillacoin.net I think). What was that problem?

Do you mine with smelter personally? I would have to get at least 10x more hashes in smelter to be efficient

When I feel like mining VanillaCoin I get 515mh/s with my 280x with smelter on the latest AMD drivers.

The config is different I assume with smelter compared to sgminer.

This is my .bat for Smelter:

smelter -o stratum+tcp://vnl.suprnova.cc:1111 -u Username -p x -g 4 -W 64

BTW I think I heard that with 270's you get around 150mh/s with Smelter though I could be wrong.
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September 10, 2015, 08:45:22 AM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

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Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.

AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]


     my 280x is getting  ~3 - 12 vnl per day  Wink, but lookout if those chinese gpu farms return  

That is nice! What is your hash on this card? Do you use smelter or sgminer?
Can you place your config pls?

   i've pushed smelter to 500 mh, but the card was well over 90 deg.C.  doing a steady 430 mh @ 85-90 degrees C. the program isn't devoloped to the point where you have many settings to worry about; just use the default config and trix/afterburner to throttle the card
     also, you can set the mem clock way low, vnl uses almost no ram

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September 10, 2015, 09:19:07 AM
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Be nice if someone made a guide on how to ensure your node is working, while remaining as safe as possible.

It will be made, but first the node incentive system must be fully functional, as you see only the base incentive protocol integration is live which is the RC1 release.

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September 10, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
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Except this RC1 update, every release since around January is open source. There is probably a testing reason behind it, also it's not mandatory.

Nice from a 10 post account to ask for caution, but John most probably won't spread any malware considering the amount of work he put into this project.

Having the source code published, as it is the idea behind section 6 of AGPL used by previous versions, would remove those probabilities.

No need to take the word from a 10 post account as advice (or a Terminator movie character with negative karma for that matter) just read and compile the software that can potentially run your money. Tweaking it to fit your needs.

Don't take me wrong, I like the idea of Vanillacoin, I have some, and I am curious to see ZeroTime concept tested in the real world, I might be a little frustrated for not being able to run RC1 on my linux box and be part of the testing group, that's all.
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September 10, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
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Except this RC1 update, every release since around January is open source. There is probably a testing reason behind it, also it's not mandatory.

Nice from a 10 post account to ask for caution, but John most probably won't spread any malware considering the amount of work he put into this project.

Having the source code published, as it is the idea behind section 6 of AGPL used by previous versions, would remove those probabilities.

No need to take the word from a 10 post account as advice (or a Terminator movie character with negative karma for that matter) just read and compile the software that can potentially run your money. Tweaking it to fit your needs.

Don't take me wrong, I like the idea of Vanillacoin, I have some, and I am curious to see ZeroTime concept tested in the real world, I might be a little frustrated for not being able to run RC1 on my linux box and be part of the testing group, that's all.

Taking John's negative trust rating into a statement regarding a closed source RC version of a vanillacoin wallet is pretty much pointless. I would also think that for John, who invested so much (both time and money) into the project (just look at his FPGA rig and the full time development he is doing and count with the avarage developer/programmer fees) it wouldn't be worth to spread a malware which gets noticed after 10 minutes and would result in VNL dropping to 0 and the project ending. Obviously always take care with anything that is closed source, there are certain virus scan application (ex. Virustotal) which one can use before downloading anything.

Yeah I see that you might be curious and/or frustrated, but John just stated it on the forums (https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/206/version-0-3-4-rc1-release/2) that the private branch will soon be merged with the public one and the paper will also get an update. The paper just got tweeted out, so I guess the first one will be soon here also. Paper: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf

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September 10, 2015, 11:38:17 AM
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The price is falling Sad
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September 10, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
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The price is falling Sad

Not for long soon it will rise Smiley
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September 10, 2015, 11:53:15 AM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf

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September 10, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?

I was minig it last winter  Grin and as it is getting cold here I am comming back with my rig 5xR9 270.
Last winter it used to generate at least 20-50 coins etc / day, nowadays after 3 days of non stop minig I minted 0.5 coin altogether.

Isnt that strange? With this, it is totally unprofitable to mine VNL although I love this coin, never sold any, nor I will until they are pair to BTC Smiley

What is todays approach to mining VNL? Did FPGA dominated this? I have around 80 Mh/s per card in sgminer but I cannot get more. What should I be getting from such card and expectin to mint per day?

I also have some 7950 still resting in closet, should I turn them on? What shoud I expect here from those cards?

Thanks anyone for info Smiley

Try using Smelter from the OP.




AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]

I have tried that but was getting only about 1 mhs / card and still it seemed to me it is even not accepted by pool (mining on vanillacoin.net I think). What was that problem?

Do you mine with smelter personally? I would have to get at least 10x more hashes in smelter to be efficient

When I feel like mining VanillaCoin I get 515mh/s with my 280x with smelter on the latest AMD drivers.

The config is different I assume with smelter compared to sgminer.

This is my .bat for Smelter:

smelter -o stratum+tcp://vnl.suprnova.cc:1111 -u Username -p x -g 4 -W 64

BTW I think I heard that with 270's you get around 150mh/s with Smelter though I could be wrong.

Thanks for the config, I will give it a try, but I had exactly the same but different pool.. maybe pool was the problem? Will try it.
Anyway, when was the last time you minted VNL and get 10+ from 515 mh/s? Eventhough I am using sgminer with 80 mh/s per card, I have 5 of them in rig so total is around 400 mh/s, which should be at least around 80% of what you mine, but I mine  literally 0.2 or so per day. How can 400 mh/s do 0.2 and 515 10+??? Anyone mining VNL right now? What is expectation per 100 mh/s?
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September 10, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf
I can not read a document translator in this form.
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September 10, 2015, 01:48:34 PM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf
I can not read a document translator in this form.

You can download it directly with this link: https://t.co/KfD04q2ZqS

Hope this helps.

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September 10, 2015, 02:03:11 PM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?


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AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]

I have tried that but was getting only about 1 mhs / card and still it seemed to me it is even not accepted by pool (mining on vanillacoin.net I think). What was that problem?

Do you mine with smelter personally? I would have to get at least 10x more hashes in smelter to be efficient

When I feel like mining VanillaCoin I get 515mh/s with my 280x with smelter on the latest AMD drivers.

The config is different I assume with smelter compared to sgminer.

This is my .bat for Smelter:

smelter -o stratum+tcp://vnl.suprnova.cc:1111 -u Username -p x -g 4 -W 64

BTW I think I heard that with 270's you get around 150mh/s with Smelter though I could be wrong.

Thanks for the config, I will give it a try, but I had exactly the same but different pool.. maybe pool was the problem? Will try it.
Anyway, when was the last time you minted VNL and get 10+ from 515 mh/s? Eventhough I am using sgminer with 80 mh/s per card, I have 5 of them in rig so total is around 400 mh/s, which should be at least around 80% of what you mine, but I mine  literally 0.2 or so per day. How can 400 mh/s do 0.2 and 515 10+??? Anyone mining VNL right now? What is expectation per 100 mh/s?

  single GPU (R9-280x) working at pool.vanillaco.in, running smelter @~450mh

                                  

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September 10, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf
I can not read a document translator in this form.

You can download it directly with this link: https://t.co/KfD04q2ZqS

Hope this helps.
Who can explain this simple system? It will be necessary to do something for the award?
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September 10, 2015, 03:15:43 PM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf
I can not read a document translator in this form.

You can download it directly with this link: https://t.co/KfD04q2ZqS

Hope this helps.
Who can explain this simple system? It will be necessary to do something for the award?

 looks like there might be a minimum balance to maintain, not sure if wallet has to be unlocked. otherwise be online and connectable as much as you can

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September 10, 2015, 03:30:34 PM
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Hi is anyone minig VNL here yet?


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AMD/WIN - Smelter by Smolen - https://mega.co.nz/#!vQgzCCxY!iprRvA5CsiouU5EfrY6ptct8dFuE1_Y-vZnGkjcI_Kc [Fastest for AMD]

I have tried that but was getting only about 1 mhs / card and still it seemed to me it is even not accepted by pool (mining on vanillacoin.net I think). What was that problem?

Do you mine with smelter personally? I would have to get at least 10x more hashes in smelter to be efficient

When I feel like mining VanillaCoin I get 515mh/s with my 280x with smelter on the latest AMD drivers.

The config is different I assume with smelter compared to sgminer.

This is my .bat for Smelter:

smelter -o stratum+tcp://vnl.suprnova.cc:1111 -u Username -p x -g 4 -W 64

BTW I think I heard that with 270's you get around 150mh/s with Smelter though I could be wrong.

Thanks for the config, I will give it a try, but I had exactly the same but different pool.. maybe pool was the problem? Will try it.
Anyway, when was the last time you minted VNL and get 10+ from 515 mh/s? Eventhough I am using sgminer with 80 mh/s per card, I have 5 of them in rig so total is around 400 mh/s, which should be at least around 80% of what you mine, but I mine  literally 0.2 or so per day. How can 400 mh/s do 0.2 and 515 10+??? Anyone mining VNL right now? What is expectation per 100 mh/s?

  single GPU (R9-280x) working at pool.vanillaco.in, running smelter @~450mh

                                  

I have found out there is mainly problem with pool01.vanilacoin.net where I was mining. Total hashing power was 400 mh/s and it really did only 0.7 in 3 days. On vnl.suprnova.net it is mining normally and I expect around 10+ per day with this, so this is good.

What is not good is I cannot run smelter efficiently.
How do you use it?
I have heard you should use some amd libraries to make it work better. I dont know if it is true or not, but I have copied
amd_opencl32.dll,amd_opencl64.dll, amdocl.dll, amdocl64.dll
into folder where is smelter.
Then in that folder is only smelter.exe and sm.cmd where I have my simple config.

Then I run it via that config file and  getting only doing 1 or 2 mh/s

anyone know why? Sad

Also wattage usage is not somehow superb, it is taking only 230 W out of the wall while using sgminer it is taking 500 W
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September 10, 2015, 03:35:37 PM
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Updated node incentive paper has been posted by John-Connor: https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/incentive.pdf
I can not read a document translator in this form.

You can download it directly with this link: https://t.co/KfD04q2ZqS

Hope this helps.
Who can explain this simple system? It will be necessary to do something for the award?

 looks like there might be a minimum balance to maintain, not sure if wallet has to be unlocked. otherwise be online and connectable as much as you can

The whitepaper has been changed and corrected according to how the final code will look like. Still there are certain questions that will be answered in time with the next releases.

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