ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Kouye]

Worse, he just dropped the price to 2.7 BTC. I admit - I'm surprised it's that low and I predict that they get snapped up in < 24 hours. It feels like a forced sell due to needing funds in a short period of time.

If he was an early buyer, that's not that bad of a move, I think. He probably reached ROI from dividends and is just cashing in some huge benefits now.
Which makes me sad with my 2 shares bought for 4.7 each.
I don't care, I was willing to be part of the mining effort, without the hassle.
And while FC manages to keep a decent part of the global mining rate, I'm staying.
Not to get rich. Just to add my puny power, to help bitcoin blowing banks away.

[tinus42]

There is an fixed price auction @2.9 with over 1000 shares:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279016.0

Hey, is 1000 more than 400?

Worse, he just dropped the price to 2.7 BTC. I admit - I'm surprised it's that low and I predict that they get snapped up in < 24 hours. It feels like a forced sell due to needing funds in a short period of time.

You'd better start assimilating new information before it's too late. There is a reason somebody would dump millions USD at 'below market'- he knows it won't sell at current prices. The whales don't believe in AM anymore and there was never 160M of value here.

Correction: one whale doesn't believe in it anymore or he needs funds desperately for some reason. Don't see any other mass dumping on the Auctions board.

[canth]

You'd better start assimilating new information before it's too late. There is a reason somebody would dump millions USD at 'below market'- he knows it won't sell at current prices. The whales don't believe in AM anymore and there was never 160M of value here.

Well, in this one transaction we're talking about 1000 * 2.7BTC or ~ $297,000 at today's prices. I'd say he's giving up about $100K by not waiting until the price bounces back, but time will tell if the millions get dumped, as you suggest they will.

[canth]

Worse, he just dropped the price to 2.7 BTC. I admit - I'm surprised it's that low and I predict that they get snapped up in < 24 hours. It feels like a forced sell due to needing funds in a short period of time.

If he was an early buyer, that's not that bad of a move, I think. He probably reached ROI from dividends and is just cashing in some huge benefits now.
Which makes me sad with my 2 shares bought for 4.7 each.
I don't care, I was willing to be part of the mining effort, without the hassle.
And while FC manages to keep a decent part of the global mining rate, I'm staying.
Not to get rich. Just to add my puny power, to help bitcoin blowing banks away.

I bought the majority of shares between 1.5 and 2.5 and dumped 50% when it reached the high 4s - I've made enough profit that about the worst I can do is break even if AM plunges to near zero. I agree, there are definitely all kinds of reasons for entry and exit points into the market.

[tinus42]

Worse, he just dropped the price to 2.7 BTC. I admit - I'm surprised it's that low and I predict that they get snapped up in < 24 hours. It feels like a forced sell due to needing funds in a short period of time.

If he was an early buyer, that's not that bad of a move, I think. He probably reached ROI from dividends and is just cashing in some huge benefits now.
Which makes me sad with my 2 shares bought for 4.7 each.
I don't care, I was willing to be part of the mining effort, without the hassle.
And while FC manages to keep a decent part of the global mining rate, I'm staying.
Not to get rich. Just to add my puny power, to help bitcoin blowing banks away.

Bought at resp. 2.52 and 3.70. But would love to be able to buy one of those shares at 2.7 if I had the BTC.

As the Stones sung: You can't always get what you want. 

[chriswilmer]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

[Vycid]

You'd better start assimilating new information before it's too late. There is a reason somebody would dump millions USD at 'below market'- he knows it won't sell at current prices. The whales don't believe in AM anymore and there was never 160M of value here.

Well, in this one transaction we're talking about 1000 * 2.7BTC or ~ $297,000 at today's prices. I'd say he's giving up about $100K by not waiting until the price bounces back, but time will tell if the millions get dumped, as you suggest they will.

You are absolutely correct, that was an embarrassing order-of-magnitude error on my part.

Still, someone has been filling all the buy orders every night. Big players want their profits. I will be entirely unsurprised if we see 5000+ shares for sale shortly.

[freedomno1]

Ok thats bull right there auction closed again
Markets going to reel on this one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279016.msg2980374#msg2980374

(On a sidenote Geez honor your own auction threads)

[keeron]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Just taking PM offers... but that is definitely scaring folks like us who want to eat popcorn and enjoy the show (oh and cry a little with all those shares that I brought a little while ago)

[Vycid]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

[DeathAndTaxes]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

He signed a message from the address that was sent dividends. 

[hammurabi]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

His message verifies against signature&address.
Also dividend received with this address is exactly for 3559 shares.
https://blockchain.info/address/1LgU2dHSB3vn3KFGRG26C2vbg7Xz6dsAKq

[freedomno1]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

Sure that parts easy enough although the data hasn't been updated recently I believe its only this one that's selling someone will need to check each account then divide it by dividends to confirm this statement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

For the record NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME by eb (forgot to add a clarification)

[hammurabi]

Absolutely fantastic dividend!  

..and now I can feel what he meant that day.


Edit:
Looks like he was a board member up to 2013-03-24 and sold 1000pcs at ~0.8 per share.

[freedomno1]

The hashrate is coming back up a fair bit
Since were speculating in the main AM thread posts it here as well

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=9

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

Sure that parts easy enough although the data hasn't been updated recently I believe its only this one that's selling someone will need to check each account then divide it by dividends to confirm this statement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

For the record NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME

+1. I am very interested in purchasing his shares at 2.7 however I have not received a response

If you are selling direct shares, PM me offers.

[freedomno1]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

Sure that parts easy enough although the data hasn't been updated recently I believe its only this one that's selling someone will need to check each account then divide it by dividends to confirm this statement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

For the record NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME

+1. I am very interested in purchasing his shares at 2.7 however I have not received a response

I'm personally getting interested myself in how the big shareholders are moving shares.
We are nearing the old Jutarul support wall of 2.5 so he can rebuy his shares ha-ha
I forgot to add I was referring to EB and his shares in the previous point when I mentioned NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME
So I backedited my previous post
I was thinking of manually tracing everyone of the big holders dividends to the blockchain and seeing if any hands have moved around this week but I'll check that later

I do see some hands adding shares though
1DXyYV4oxehn828ZnRSvuziArPoJLQq7SM + 3360 Burnside PT
1rHfXj4AwH9zymwwJuXnbXLiDbAE9V1uz + 10 TAT PT
15N6JA3Nw23taiA7nCGnJfKWNozAQGJNmR + 35

Nothing else above the 5k Point moved

[hammurabi]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

Sure that parts easy enough although the data hasn't been updated recently I believe its only this one that's selling someone will need to check each account then divide it by dividends to confirm this statement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

For the record NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME

+1. I am very interested in purchasing his shares at 2.7 however I have not received a response

Ok, I will go for sleep probably he is more scared than we are. Such an amount of shares must be scary! He seems to have been trading with them before. 1000 at march at low price, then another 1000, then bought back to 3559. Now he sells.
Or maybe he & Vycid are in cooperation. One is driving price down while the other is driving in our minds. The persistence of Vycid's efforts is at least puzzling.
No dividends have been moved around from this address, but maybe its to early for that. We will see.

The whole thing can be smart trading or complete BS.

[Vycid]

The 1000+ shares for 2.7 BTC guy locked the thread. That makes the whole situation seem very bearish since he is offering a great deal and no one "appears" to want the shares!

Clever scare tactic?

Yeah, maybe.

Is there any way to find out if that guy actually owns direct shares?

Sure that parts easy enough although the data hasn't been updated recently I believe its only this one that's selling someone will need to check each account then divide it by dividends to confirm this statement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

For the record NO SHARES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT THIS TIME

+1. I am very interested in purchasing his shares at 2.7 however I have not received a response

Ok, I will go for sleep probably he is more scared than we are. Such an amount of shares must be scary! He seems to have been trading with them before. 1000 at march at low price, then another 1000, then bought back to 3559. Now he sells.
Or maybe he & Vycid are in cooperation. One is driving price down while the other is driving in our minds. The persistence of Vycid's efforts is at least puzzling.
No dividends have been moved around from this address, but maybe its to early for that. We will see.

The whole thing can be smart trading or complete BS.

Wow. Never been implicated in a conspiracy theory before.

Doesn't make any sense though, since he wants share prices high and I've been bearish for months now.

[freedomno1]

Well if this is a clear example of price manipulation then this is actually bullish news in disguise someone wants to buy in a large hand but is using their hand to deflate the price to increase their position.

Now that is the definition of insider trading.

Of course holding 3000 shares is not a board seat so maybe it is still bearish
But until the shares are sold we could go all day with Conspiracy Theories XD

Now kicks everyone back to the speculation thread haha

(Logically hes closer to the board seat using shares as pull to reach the board member status and that is one way to manipulate the market in your favor just as it is logical to lock in profits from buying in at the IPO price  )