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[eb3full]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

[velacreations]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

I'm sure you're gonna catch all kinds of flack, but I think it's cool you came here and was honest with everyone.  To me, that shows character, and I appreciate it.

[deltanine]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

Hey I believe you!  I'm also very appreciative of how you handled things.  This morning it took forever to get coins into btct to buy cheap shares and I missed the opportunity.  But as your efforts continued the price dropped again and I bought all the way down.  

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

[velacreations]

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

how many whales are there?  and what constitutes a whale?

I'm barely a goldfish, but it would be interesting to know.

[TheSwede75]

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

how many whales are there?  and what constitutes a whale?

I'm barely a goldfish, but it would be interesting to know.

I would prob say that anyone close to board-seat qualifies. So between 3-5k shares? I'd def say that 10k BTC can cause quite a swing when they move around enough.

[velacreations]

I would prob say that anyone close to or over board-seat qualifies. So between 3-5k shares?

How many board seats do you have, Swede?

I'd def say that 10k BTC can cause quite a swing when they move around enough.

with 10k btc, you could crash every single security out there, and make up whatever story you wanted for the reasons.

[freedomno1]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

Emotional investing is dangerous investing but at least you realize that and can learn from it.
But considering the dividends given I think your pretty safe regardless of your investment strategy from here
I believe that the biggest holders wanting more shares according to yourself is a good sign as they have a stronger understanding of the operations as board members, the fact that you are the owner of these shares means that it is plausible by all accounts people were PMing you
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323550604578413162718644332.html

Anyways stops over-thinking it there is no mysterious board member here

[Vycid]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

 

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

Would you mind demonstrating the slightest logical incompatibility between his statements and other whales being ready to dump?

Most people with significant AM holdings are sophisticated enough to understand not everyone can sell their shares at current prices, because there's little underlying value. It's just a matter of time.

[velacreations]

Most people with significant AM holdings are sophisticated enough

I thought you were just saying we're all idiots for holding  

[deltanine]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

 

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

Would you mind demonstrating the slightest logical incompatibility between his statements and other whales being ready to dump?

Most people with significant AM holdings are sophisticated enough to understand not everyone can sell their shares at current prices, because there's little underlying value. It's just a matter of time.

You'd better start assimilating new information before it's too late. There is a reason somebody would dump millions USD at 'below market'- he knows it won't sell at current prices. The whales don't believe in AM anymore and there was never 160M of value here.

You were wrong.  Whales have not lost confidence.  Unless eb3full isn't being honest about big players buying his shares.  Is that what you think?

[velacreations]

You were wrong.  Whales have not lost confidence.  Unless eb3full isn't being honest about big players buying his shares.  Is that what you think?

[Vycid]

Or you could be pumping up the price.

I am pumping the price, but I'm also telling the truth. That's the whole reason I posted. I realized my huge sell-offs were scaring people and causing a false prophecy sort of situation.

I don't want people thinking there's some mysterious board member or catastrophe and you have to run for the hills, when it's really just a high-school dropout with too much emotion in his trading.

 

But Vycid says that there are tons of whales ready to dump.  So if that is true you can't be telling the truth.

Would you mind demonstrating the slightest logical incompatibility between his statements and other whales being ready to dump?

Most people with significant AM holdings are sophisticated enough to understand not everyone can sell their shares at current prices, because there's little underlying value. It's just a matter of time.

You'd better start assimilating new information before it's too late. There is a reason somebody would dump millions USD at 'below market'- he knows it won't sell at current prices. The whales don't believe in AM anymore and there was never 160M of value here.

You were wrong.  Whales have not lost confidence.  Unless eb3full isn't being honest about big players buying his shares.  Is that what you think?

Oh yes, I see the error in my logic. One whale = all whales. Forgive my foolishness.

[freedomno1]

Nope all whales
We can confirm it with the shareholder document  
Unless you want to call out this data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

[velacreations]

Oh yes, I see the error in my logic. One whale = all whales. Forgive my foolishness.

well, technically, 2 whales.  Maybe more.  He said "big players".  Implies more than one.

I don't know how many whales there are, so I don't know if 3 whales is a lot or not.  

[TheSwede75]

I would prob say that anyone close to or over board-seat qualifies. So between 3-5k shares?

How many board seats do you have, Swede?

I'd def say that 10k BTC can cause quite a swing when they move around enough.

with 10k btc, you could crash every single security out there, and make up whatever story you wanted for the reasons.

Hah. I am solidly a "Guppy" with my double digit ownership

I would prob speculate that most "whales" are indeed holding steady. If you have $1 million + invested its fairly unlikely that a single week of 'underperforming' dividend really shakes you up. Especially considering almost all really major share holders have average purchase prices so low that not only have they made back their entire initial investment several times over in dividends but can realize several hundred % profit from selling anywhere over 1 BTC.

[Vycid]

Nope all whales
We can confirm it with the shareholder document  
Unless you want to call out this data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

All I see is 31 individuals with 1000 shares or more. There is nothing to suggest none of them are planning to make an exit.

Like one nearly did today.

[freedomno1]

Nope all whales
We can confirm it with the shareholder document  
Unless you want to call out this data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

All I see is 31 individuals with 1000 shares or more. There is nothing to suggest none of them are planning to make an exit.

There is also nothing to suggest some of them are planning to make an exit any time soon, in fact their is something to suggest that more of them are interesting in increasing their positions.

[velacreations]

Nope all whales
We can confirm it with the shareholder document  
Unless you want to call out this data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtqphFCP56ordGVCakJxSU90MlB4MlBkZENya25pS2c#gid=9

If 2,000 shares is the minimum for whale status, then I count 13 whales (don't count the PTs)

we know at least 3 whales are not dumping, based on eb3full's information.  That's pretty decent odds.

Can Vycid give us some evidence of 1 whale wanting to dump?

[velacreations]

Hah. I am solidly a "Guppy" with my double digit ownership

I would prob speculate that most "whales" are indeed holding steady. If you have $1 million + invested its fairly unlikely that a single week of 'underperforming' dividend really shakes you up. Especially considering almost all really major share holders have average purchase prices so low that not only have they made back their entire initial investment several times over in dividends but can realize several hundred % profit from selling anywhere over 1 BTC.

+1
well said, Swede.  Very clear logic. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

[deadgiveaway]

Thanks for the cheap shares, I am now over a goal I set a while ago and am feeling great. TY!!!