But you do created severall accounts after the earlier one got... by "self restrain", do you talking about "self-exclusion" where you asked the said account to be excluded from the platform,or were you referring to "limited", where your account can only place bets very lowly?


OP, one way to clear one of this counter allegation is by providing us the rest of the conversation. I noticed that the screenshots you gave was just about probably one fourth of the entire conversation, judging from the scroll bar.

I... think I got lost in translation here, on the section I underlined. Do you mind to rephrase?

They can, but I don't think they will. AFAIK, they're not nuking account for no reason or simply because the owner of the account asked for it [not to mention it's for personal reason reason]. You can manually delete your posts by yourself, one by one. That's... arguably... acceptable. Though I personally think that's a bit too extreme, and unnecessary. Besides, the forum is guarded by two scrapers that automatically archive every posts. So even if you delete everything that you made, curious people can still necromanced them from the void.

It'll be better to lock this thread, IMO. The button to lock it is at the bottom left of this page. It'll prevent any further unnecessary posts that'll bump this thread further up this board, and when it doesn't get bumped up, it'll slowly... drowned by other threads.



OOT: are they scrapers or crawlers?

Fixing your broken link, images reuploaded through talkimg as below, original image above and translation below them. It'll be helpful if you can confirm the generated text by translation engine is correct.

Another thing to confirm or clarify, did you falsify your KYC? Why?

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When was that, too? I can't see when he blocked you. Is there another screenshot or something to help us, maybe? All I see is he didn't read your message yet, after you're saying your good bye and after he said he's waiting for an answer from the odds provider, same with that I can't see he thinks it's a winning bet, all he said was he can't give personal opinion; not even a hint --from the way I perceive it-- that says he's in agreement with you. Is there another screenshot that back up this claim and can help us see what you proposed?

I'm pretty much sure they have staff that could help UserU [he's a representative of 500, by the way] translates into english if necessary. And there are translation tools that could help us get the gist of your conversation. If you upload them here, I'll reupload with the translated result [credit to auto translation tools, not me] if I can to help people overseeing this thread.

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UserU, just curious and quick confirmation, "csgo500tr" is one of your official website?

Reuploading your image for visibility and rearranging the order to better fit chronologically.

Mind to point us out where he sees the bet as a winning bet and where that decision goes out the window when he realized who you are? Because I can't find anything on that screenshot above, implicitly or explicitly, that said as what you narrated.

Unfortunately, from what I read, judging from their wording, I think yes, you indeed triggered their AML alarm. Casino are very sensitive to funds that deposited to their platform and later withdrawn without any bets. Usually they have minimum wagering requirement to discourage people from using their platform to launder money. I've been wondering about this too, but I assumed you passed this requirement because you said you did gambled some.

If you deposited the funds and requested withdrawal soon after, without touching your fund at all, casinos will usually get suspicious and implemented KYC/AML screening.

Is that all they asked? Or is there any other question related to the fund activity they asked, be it on the live chat or during video verification?

This is what I did the first time I came into this thread, I shied away from distrusting him because he removed his "unjust" tags, and I perceived it as his way to deescalate the situation. But he's giving the feedback again when the "deal" "blown off", both on Gazeta and BGC's case, indicating that the feedbacks he left are indeed retaliatory, and an abuse of DT power. After this, I still tried to understand his reasoning behind those feedbacks, to see if it's justifiable, which he didn't reply, and which I then can only assume is because the answer is simply that: retaliatory.

So, will he be removed from Tilde if he removes his tag from several members for this "childish grudges"? If I may ask back, what's the reason he remove them? Was it simply to get him off the distrust list of many users? The problem is not the childish grudges, Gazeta pointed them on the err... enormous essay he wrote on the first post, it's the Trust abuse, using feedback as bargaining chip, and I think the Tilde should only be removed when he understood that feedback system are there to cater forum's need to help its members in deals and the risk involved in dealing with that user, not... whatever he currently perceive them.

Is this the oficial statement by the match provider? The players quit the game? Wouldn't that mean the game marked as cancelled, then?


You conveniently snipped the first part of the rule you quoted to match your narrative. The complete rule is as what I pointed on #21,

"All esports markets are based on in-game score events or results at the end of a scheduled match/map. All settlements will occur using the official score and results, which are declared on the official video stream or the in-game stream of the relevant matches."

AFAIK, gathered from several sources some time ago and probably a bit outdated, AML verification for crypto "business" involves submitting ID [driving license, passport, or other govt. issued ID] and proof of residential [utility bill, bank statement, landline bill, etc.] Not sure if the part I bolded above was one of their AML compliance, though one of the AML protocol is simply identifying and monitoring the flow of the funds. Thus, probably you're not in a serious situation where they require a complicated AML verification, they simply tracing and "labelling" your flow of fund.

Thank you for... self incriminating yourself. At least I assume that's the purpose of your post. What's the purpose of your post? What are you trying to point out here? That you haven't use tg handler "gsxrfiabs" for a month and thus the scammer here just snatched a disposed username and you're the victim here because they happen to choose your username [most likely by looking at the usernames at bounty posts] out of others, right on time when you no longer use it so they can claim it as theirs? If they're one month too soon, they won't be able to use that username because you're still wearing it. What's the chance of such coincidence? One billionth?

Which one is more likely and sound more plausible? That one billionth chance scenario or that you still have that username up to when albon confronted you and then you disposed it and edited posts that could be a smoking gun that tie you to the scamming act?

For now. To lure you into investing more. Once the trap set, it'll snap shut, taking away your fund. Pretty much sure that scenario is well recycled here. And honestly, isn't this too good to be true? 2.6% daily interest? 18.2% weekly?



Do you mind to edit your opening post and break that address with space or anything to make it a simple text instead of a link?

It'll be very interesting if Mezu end is not your alt, because Mezu somehow broke their more than a year of silence just to defend you. And by the way, you still use that username up to last month, not sure why you bother editing them on 25th [two days before this thread goes up], since everything is archived and well documented here. Unless... it's to hide your track?


[p.s: oh, just noticed that these findings are also on OP's collection of evidence. Good job, Albon]


Umm... because the signs point to it?

Been wanting to ask this from the first time I posted on this thread: can you re-upload the image in your opening post? It's been inaccessible when I read this thread, so some context was missing for me and hopefully it'll help me understand your situation better. Upload them to talkimg.

Meanwhile, why do you deposit and withdraw from your friend's address?

As a side note, Razer never say anything about fraudulent betting, no? The reason behind your case was due to circumventing betting limitation.

I am a bit unclear about this. So OP triggered AML flags, but he doesn't asked to provide AML verification documents?

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There's no harm in double checking things, right? Besides, I might be wrong, but being a USA citizen does not means you're banned from using their service, being a current resident of USA does. So, they probably checking if you're accessing from within US soils.

If you can help re-clarifying from your side for above question, you are not asked for specific document related to AML? You're just asked to provide ID and to log in and out of your account?

Is it irrelevant, though? Aside from what the two nice gentlemen said above me, it's worth to mention that if the official [the organizer and the owner of the said competition and thus the said match] ruled it as a cancelled match, how should a betting platform or a bookie made their own decision against the one that the official made and validate the bets? The outcome after the first half become relevant to the official's decision due to that reason, not to mention the rule specified on their ToS.

Allow me to rephrase, is there a statistic, a scorecard, or a leaderboard perhaps, that indicate that the said match were not ruled as cancelled by the officials of that tournament? That video on youtube does not exactly conclude if the whole match is considered a full match or a cancelled one, does it?

I am aware of that, I was writing another PM to Razer, notifying him for another case, when you made the post above. As he's not replying to any thread, he's probably just online for a brief moment and was unable to attend to any case. I'll remind him of this case [if he didn't already address it himself] next time he's online.

Be that as it may, their rules to determine the outcome of a bet is through the statistic shown at the end of a match. I believe this stat showing the score etc. are not shown on the screen during half time? As for they scam you or not, that's highly... dependant on the case. If we reverse the situation, where you lose your bet, will you still complaining or will you be more than happy that it got voided due to... no apparent reason?

A probable way to get "around" this is to point out the official score or result of that match. Is there an official summary that explain the score is 2-1? Or the official says as what Stake's representative provided to you,


in other words, the official of that match themselves [not Stake] ruled the match as cancelled.