I've already linked this, but I'll do it again and make it a bit easier.
Either way - you'll need to be willing to have your mind changed - and I can't do that for you. Hopefully this will encourage you to consider being objective - and if it doesn't (which I expect), hopefully the lurkers will consider it.
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It's lots of words. Might take you more than a couple minutes to digest - it's worth it though. Give it a read.
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Did you read any of the words?
Give it a shot. You might learn something. No shame in learning something.
You've got some obvious assigned talking points to "defend ANTIFA." My question is, why? And to what purpose? (Of course I already know, but am interested in how you defend your stand) However my opinion is you're abusing and misrepresenting the documents you posted by Gottlieb. Let's take one or two things she said, to illustrate. However my opinion is you're abusing and misrepresenting the documents you posted by Gottlieb. Let's examine a bit of her thinking. ...By scaling these programs to ripple out and touch as many people in as many locations as possible, Creating the Future will model its work after successful movements for change (vs successful organizations). That is our plan of action. And a major first step in that plan is to ensure that the organization’s structure is built and maintained as a support to those ripples....https://creatingthefuture.org/our-plan/Nothing there that supports your narrow attempt to re-define movement vs organization in support of your radical extremist support of Antifa, is there? You made that up.
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Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.
Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything. Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates. So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?
You are catching up. It's not an organization. I got it now, believe me. Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization." Sure am glad we all got that figured out! Antifa is a movement, not an organization. You need to stop relying on the media and do some objective research of your own. Try to prove yourself wrong - it won't be hard. Why, you are exactly repeating what someone else said! What nice sock puppetry! But look at my post? Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization."Don't you feel good, knowing that little white boy, proud Antifa in mom's basement can argue "Antifa is not an organization" to the not-Friendly FBI agents who have knocked on his door to discuss his terrorist operations with the Antifa Organization? I gotta give you a hint how that's going to turn out. Those FBI agents are not going to be friendly.
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Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.
Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything. Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates. So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?
You are catching up. It's not an organization. I got it now, believe me. Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization." Sure am glad we all got that figured out!
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Rationalizing somebody being murdered for passing a fake $20 bill... That's a new low even for this infected colon of the forum. https://www.insideedition.com/george-floyd-was-a-regular-at-store-that-called-911-and-may-not-have-known-bill-was-possibly-fakeThe Minneapolis corner market where a store clerk called police on a George Floyd over an alleged fake $20 bill before his fatal arrest will no longer call police when they suspect counterfeit money, unless the situation turns violent...
"Everyone that knew George knew him as very friendly, very kind, caring, jovial"...
It's very possible that Floyd may never have known the bill he handed over was fake, according to experts...
What evidence backs your assertion that he was resisting arrest? Or are you just taking the cops' word for it? He was handcuffed when he fell to the ground and then got a knee to the neck -- he wasn't exactly going anywhere. I just have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with anyone who would attempt to justify the behavior of the police in this situation. Something is screwed in the quotes above. Here's what I had to say about the entire fiasco. It's reasonable to point out that the victim was, in fact, a bad guy.
But this remains an incident where the bad guy, being arrested, should have been treated with respect.
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It's reasonable to point out that the victim was, in fact, a bad guy. But this remains an incident where the bad guy, being arrested, should have been treated with respect.
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Figured that's what you'd do. You did in fact read that "somewhere on the Internet" and believed it.
Funny how you consider wikipedia article as "somewhere on the internet". Compared to what source exacly? This was basically common knowledge and no one didn't want to challenge it before president snowflake came along. I could argue that current director of FBI has also stated that they view antifa more as ideology then organization, but i guess you woudn't care now would you? Because of your expertise feelings about it? No I wouldn't particularly care. Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION. So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong? Interesting history of Antifa. https://americanmind.org/essays/the-real-history-of-antifa/
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... As for XYZ being a "loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head" how about if you want to assert that, you have the burden of proving it? Let me guess, you read that somewhere on the Internet and believed it?
Or do you think that because a couple liberals here agreed with you that you are right? It doesn't work that way. ...
Lot's assumptions you got there. I was pointing out why i don't think that antifa is not an organization. If you disagree with me on that, start by editing wikipedia and please explain it in there that why it's suddenly actually an organization. After that we can debate on the relevance of your references. If they are solid, i'll agree with you. Before that, the burden of proof lies on you. <- From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) Figured that's what you'd do. You did in fact read that "somewhere on the Internet" and believed it. Next you'll be arguing that your idea on what "loosely organized" is includes near simultaneous flash mobs at specific locations organized by cells using disposable burn phones, again across the USA.
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I believe there is no right side in this conflict anymore which makes things even more messy.
So called Antifa people rob shops while MAGA people shoot people with bows.
It is out of control now and Trump's move isn't going to solve a damn.
The truth is even in America there are too many poor people and they got sick of being poor. That's where the hate coming from.
There's no MAGA group organizing to shoot others with bows. Curious how the propagandists create moral equivalency and credible doubt, isn't it? Nice redirection and reframing of the arguments.How do you like the path you are being led down, the narrative you are told to argue for or against?
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You do realize how network works? Anyone can pose as ANTIFA, even nazis. It's a loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head.
How can you even watch the protests and claim that ANTIFA are organized ....
I recently watched a mainland China documentary about Mao's takeover of the mainland. The tactics used, including large networks that were rigidly organized into three person cells. Those in each had limited knowledge of any outside of their own cell. The protests, the provocators in the protests, the reactions, were weirdly identical to current American events. So please layoff the condescending "You realize how network works," nobody here is that stupid. As for XYZ being a "loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head" how about if you want to assert that, you have the burden of proving it? Let me guess, you read that somewhere on the Internet and believed it? Or do you think that because a couple liberals here agreed with you that you are right? It doesn't work that way. What's ACTUALLY going to come down on this is now with a designated TERRORIST label on these sick puppies, in very short order we'll have all the facts on what and who is behind them.
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badecker A: 'cant see nano particles.. viruses are myths' badecker B: 'they can see nano particles' badecker A: 'no they cant microscopes are a myth too' badecker B: 'but they are real i seen a cyborg from the year 3000 in a vaccine and it tried to terminate me'
meanwhile other people laugh at the idiot above and while laughing. they actually do real research
viruses are real microscopes can see nano particles. but these nano particles are not machines/robots
Well if there were machines/robots, they should be able to tell us the brand/make/model/serial number and date of manufucture
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Whether the subject is 911, 5G, or vaccines, the word "nano" is sacred to the myth of a government conspiracy of evil.
The prefix 'nano' is antisemitic. Obviously. On the first day of life they take a baby into a back room and inject two things..... Am I missing something, or does nothing you said have anything to do with the phrase and use of "nano"?
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idiot above was talking about not being able to see nano particles in another topic.. so is he now debunking himself here or there..
which is it idiot.. can they see nano particles or not and dont play the fool not even remembering the topic. you just posted about it 15 minutes ago i know your an idiot. but even you can remember 15 minutes ago
by the way. the amount of non vaccine intended particles you speak of .. is far far less than what you would probably eat even on well washed lettuce
Whether the subject is 911, 5G, or vaccines, the word "nano" is sacred to the myth of a government conspiracy of evil.
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Mother Jones now? You must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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The point I'm making is that not all the protesters are violent thugs the way many people seem to be assuming recently. Including you.
That's not even a point.
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The use of cells at the higher organizational level of an attempted communist takeover is well documented. This was done by those agents of the Communist party under Mao in organizing the "student protests" in China that led to the takeover in 1949.
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.... Anyway this was just another outburst and a weak gesture from Trump trying to distract our attention to elsewhere. And (should i lend the term) "useful idiots" will eat it up.
Huh? The "weak gestures" are from liberal governors who let cities burn. Trump said if they wouldn't stop it, he would.
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Conspiracy or not, is it not important to find out the identity of the white guy that sparked riots across the US? There are a lot of people pissed off about what this one white guy did to ignite the spark. It's pretty simple to take the picture of the guy's eyes and see that they are the same guy. As someone did here: https://twitter.com/Kenny28356852/status/1266439048094253057Some guy at the police department who's salary is almost twice that of the average policeman's salary...who has been protected in the past by the police department for shooting an unarmed victim. Perhaps it is just some random white guy...let's find out who it is. He triggered a huge hit to the US economy. Your very twitter link, says "He had an alibi..."
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and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of". The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help. I am using the legal definition of the term terrorist. The rest of your statement is a non sequitur. The page on Antifa by the Southern Poverty Law Center is quite interesting. It's obviously they are pushing the lie and backing the violent anarchists/communists. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/06/01/designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties
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I created a petition to create a law to address the police brutality issue. http://chng.it/bbcBp6bZS4Please sign and share. I do not use social media so I am relying on you. Thank you in advance. Yeshua I don't see a reasonable chain of logic in the law you propose. Crime A allows or assists in Crime B therefore all involved in Crime A should be charged with Crime B. No...
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