I think there is maybe a 20% chance of btc at $10000+ by 2020
80% chance of zero
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Dear MintPal Customer, A few months ago, MintPal Exchange, the popular cryptocurrency exchange, fell apart due to alleged fraud and embezzlement by a con artist going by the name "Alex Green"/Ryan Kennedy/Ryan Gentle, CEO of Moolah LTD. Moolah was responsible for management of MintPal at the time.
As a shareholder of the company that acquired MintPal prior to its fallout, I have gained access to the old servers of MintPal where Monero keys were stored. Monero is the only major altcoin where all wallet balances are still intact, presumably due to an oversight by Ryan. All other major altcoin wallets appear to be empty. There is a criminal investigation ongoing regarding Moolah and Ryan Kennedy/Gentle, and we are working with law enforcement to seek retribution for our customers.I have fucked everyone over to the tune of several million dollars between myself and two other real or imaginary persons who profited massively from the theft of users btc and other altcoins which i take full credit for , we have gotten rich beyond our wildest dreams and are now doing our damndest to cover our tracks and avoid prosecution ,please continue to be gullible and stupid as you have been so generously thus far ........
It took me some time due to all the legal hurdles surrounding this case to send you this email, and while the criminal and civil cases against Ryan are far from over, I no longer wish to remain the custodian of coins that belong to you.
The recovered database indicates that you have Monero coins in your MintPal wallet. In order to process the withdrawal of these coins, please respond to this email by Mar 31 and include the following information:
1) Your new Monero deposit address in your sole control where I can return your coins.
2) Payment ID associated with the deposit address.
3) Estimated amount of XMR coins in your MintPal wallet. Leave blank if you can't remember. I have your record from the MintPal database back up taken prior to migration to V2.I am going to return a few worthless shitcoins to get the community off my back and pretend that i didnt profit massively from this scam and blame it all on ryan and landon etc so please bear with me while a few monero are returned and forget about the real theft here of the thousands of btc which value into the millions of $'s ......
Regards, Ferdous https://twitter.com/ferdousbha-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.8 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJU8MsiAAoJEEDdMNadBfHOYFEH/1F71cKncwbD2WQeCg+Mk5yp 4AujiF8gxzrkWOLWNIjRpkOtIAcEvW+HYjY7qDSxs/gdGVCqiBt2MVpIEDYcZny0 5aN0OIdb/sPkCp/Km85LpdpXwnDANpY2u/uKZl3NUoQXz0TlN4zt3yo2cfZy5ytW SJZPaUW3WuzeKDqZK43tmwYQpsLzakwvaLgKUOsuVC3dRQ57ohXPyErP16M3h9qj xU/wZqYu6TxNvklk3Nopqk543QZoGfS+HDZ8mFz431XXkjcPovUittj7CTe5+OWY P+XgWLw43+3WUh3vcbuQSM7dd4BPdm6LY8KLtOPa2f/8wF+sNfd7drK1ff+Jk/0= =9hWU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Ferdeous should repay people from the proceeds of the sale
he alledgedly handed over everyones coins and cash to a "mystery thief"
who proceeded to steal the fucking lot almost immediately .........
ferdeous gets to cash out nicely before the robbery ......its just all too convenient
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Ferdous, the only interpretation we made about the arrest news is that it was recent.
From the posts here and on twitter, it's pretty obvious that crypto people interpreted "arrested" = "imprisoned". Then why didn't you simply say, "this actually happened 3 months ago, but I was instructed not to talk about it" ?
If you still didn't want to reveal details, then why make the follow-up post at all?
The fact is, you didn't miscommunicate. You intentionally omitted a pretty important detail about the news article, which was further misleading because your implicit confirmation reinforced its credibility. Had one of us not looked further into it we'd all still be high fiving each other, especially after your well-timed and jubilant thank-you speech.
I wanted to make a thank you post because I truly think that it was much deserved. This was an exceptional community effort and I was glad to finally let people know that some real progress has been made. I did mention several times both here and on twitter in the last few months that we are making good progress, and I am in confidentiality agreement with law enforcement agencies. I also encouraged people to follow up with Action Fraud UK directly (if you did, then you would have learned a lot more about what actually is happening, under the same confidentiality agreement). I hope your actions are in good faith, and if they are then obviously my suspicions should be disregarded. That said, your recent comments aren't doing your credibility any favors.
Well, I have said time and time again that you should not be putting blind faith on me or anyone else. I have urged you dozens of time by now to directly contact Action Fraud UK and follow up with them. I posted our lawyer info publicly too in case anyone wanted to follow up. The burden is now on you, not me. Let me be very clear: You should not trust anybody in crypto. This space attracts way more scammers than people with good intentions. Verify everything. Stop speculating. Cheers. IF someone was arrested in the UK for stealing over $5 million dollars of btc it would have made the newspapers and probably even the national news considering the amount of cash involved is a pretty7 huge theft by everyday standards .......Even if they were unable to name kennedy as the culprit ,they would have ran the story anyway and just left out the name of the owner thief there is too many holes in this story ,smoke and mirrors everybody ...... |
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who is "brendan" with no surname who authored this false looking article ?? nobody in the uk gets remanded in custody for stealing bitcoins ,if he was arrested and jailed it wasnt in the uk who arrested them ? where at ? where were they transferred ? they are not currently in the uk prison system smoke and mirrors everybody ............ |
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Ferdous still controlls the v1 wallets. He told me via PM he was planning to setup a withdrawl page, but that was over a month ago.
Hi there, Sorry for lack of communication on my end. Of the wallets recovered from V1, we have processed withdrawal of TES, KARMA, FAIR, FLT with the help of the developer teams of these coins. I currently still have the XMR wallet. Every other altcoin wallets are empty, as they seemed to have "migrated" to V2, aka., Ryan emptied them out AFAIK. The criminal investigation against Ryan and Chelsea has speeded up in the last few weeks, and I was advised to not process withdrawals at this stage, so I'm left holding this XMR bag that is not even mine! I don't feel comfortable holding onto coins that are not mine, and I am looking into setting up a withdrawal page as soon as I can. I know that some of you have contacted Action Fraud UK and also reached out Selachii LLP to list yourselves as creditors against Moolah. You should be able to receive updates on the criminal investigation directly from Action Fraud UK under confidentiality agreement. I'm working on rebuilding a high quality exchange and finding ways to reimburse users of MintPal. A lot of you have reached out and offered help. Thanks for your patience, trust and support. you are as guilty as ryan kennedy is if the btc is not returned very convenient of you to sell the exchange to A HACKER AND KNOWN THIEF right before everyone lost their money if ryan goes to court ,you should be in the doc#k beside him because IF you didnt participate in the scam you most certaintly facilitated it pretending to be the good guy now returning a few wothless shitcoins was probably part of the plan all along ,eh ? |
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hold what you feel like you can lose , as always. or go full all in and well .. dont .
Its easy to lose 200$ now but hard to lose 10000$ in the long run. If you dont own 1 BTC by 2015 you are doing it wrong. But definitely it's also hard to lose money in the end. Holding a couple of btc at hand may save you in the coming years, but what if you are holding too much but by the year 2020 came, bitcoin has no value at all? Risks, risks everywhere. 1-10 btc is safe to hold. Whatever happens, there will be no regrets in the end. its all relative ,people who bought for pennies or single digits can afford to hold thousands of btc and "see what happens " people like the venture capitalists that are winning the silk rd coin auctions are likely to be able to hold through any volatility as well and come out smiling on the other end because theyre already high net worth individuals etc some kid still at school with biulls to pay or whatever will have to fold long before the people who are more financially comfortable or thpose who made a fortune already in btc and are already playing with "house" money |
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From dust it comes, to dust it will return.
Bitcoin came up from nothing, and will go back down to nothing.
what a crock of shit is there anything in the world that didnt come from nothing ? the most valuable things in the history of the human race were "nothing" until they became coveted |
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-snip-
i just closed bitcoin 0.9.3 but didnt uninstall it
installed 0.10 on top without deleting the blockchain
it took about 5 minutes to "verify blocks"
i was expecting to have to download the whole chain again but it seems to be working
fine using the 34GB chain i already had ?
have i done something wrong ? should i delete it all and do a fresh install ?
it seems to be fine but i dont like to take chances with my coinz
Nope, thats expected. The old blockdata is still fine, would be a shame if you had to download all that again. thats cool ,thanks i was thinking i did something wrong when i was reading people complaining about the download length but the upgrade only takes 5 min to install if you already had bitcoin 0.9.3 i dont have top of the range equipment either, the laptop i installed it is around 6 years old  |
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Well I tried this last night around 7:30PM EST and it's still going until now.
Knew it was too good to be true, to hear the reported faster indexing, 3 hours total, yada yada.
Not poopoo-ing on the devs, because they do what they can to support and improve and optimize the software, just keeping it real.
I now see the Torrent link on the top of the page, but wonder if that's any faster than just downloading the entire Blockchain from the new client.
I know this software is meant for advanced users that want to serve as nodes etc, but to take over 12-13 hours before you can even use the client...unacceptable.
Color me disapppointed. By the way, I have a laptop with core i7 cpu, running Win 7 64 bit, 6 GB DDR 3 RAM on a Verizon FIOS symmetric 50MB internet connection, no SSD harddrive. Even with no SSD, that shouldn't account half a whole days worth of downloading the blockchain. I did have Bitcoin Core 0.9.1 shutdown, and then downloaded and installed 0.10.0 over it, then an error message popped, which gave me little choice but to download the entire blockchain. Pretty much a cancel and not use Bitcoin Core, or download 34 GB worth of data to use the software.
There should an option to download locally or cache the chain in the cloud, just give the users options especially as "the wallet" promoted and developed by the Bitcoin Foundation.
Just ranting, but expecting much better. This is my 3rd upgrade in 3 years, guess just venting because I didn't have to re-download the entire blockchain in previous installations.
Just my experience, take it for what it's worth.
i just closed bitcoin 0.9.3 but didnt uninstall it installed 0.10 on top without deleting the blockchain it took about 5 minutes to "verify blocks" i was expecting to have to download the whole chain again but it seems to be working fine using the 34GB chain i already had ? have i done something wrong ? should i delete it all and do a fresh install ? it seems to be fine but i dont like to take chances with my coinz |
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I think 100 bitcoins is not extremely impressive. You will definitely become moderately wealthy if you keep them but not a millionaire. Anyway, hold your coins. a million bucks aint what it used to be lol when i was a kid i thought having a million would = retirement on some beach somewhere lol now it my city you need a few million for a decently modest apartment/house that isnt the size of a shoebox and thats BEFORE you take into account everthing else like cars and bills and fuck knows what 100 btc in a few years will be a million easily id say but yes you are correct ,a million isnt really a lot so i would get more $2xx coins if i was the OP .......... |
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I am getting so sick of seeing pointless, rubbish ad-sig posts in every single topic on this forum that I have started this topic just to allow others that have something that might be of any actual interest to others to post in.
Rules are:
1. If you have an ad-sig then I will delete your post no matter how "relevant" you think it is (go and post somewhere else - you have plenty of places to do that and I am sick of you guys trying to "defend yourselves").
2. If you post crap or abuse I'll delete that too.
Let's see if it is possible to actually have some enlightened posts on this forum again.
this thread is a breath of fresh air ,it makes more sense than the mindless drivel in most of the other threads combined hopefully more people will self moderate threads to get away from this spam problem ,its really turned the forum to shit compared to what it was like a couple of years back |
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The forum is nearing the lowest point content-wise I have seen. Click on just about any thread and it is mindless replies and bumps from people with big signature ads pushing something. There is nothing here, no content, no dialog. It is certainly not the place for cryptographers and programmers and entrepreneurs to exchange information about Bitcoin. If you are lucky, you will find someone completely out of their depth asking a stupid question answered a hundred times, someone that then cannot understand the answer.
There is no reason or need for a signature. Limiting the BBcode to higher-activity members helped the look of the forum, but just creates a market for old accounts to do the spamming.
What is needed is to deincentivize this crap posting by completely removing the signature. End the signature campaigns and the pay for obnoxious scam sites. People are profiting from posting nonsense and making this forum useless, and this is seemingly the only way to make it stop.
Then we have the activity/post count chasers, which you can see from dozens of "why isn't my activity going up" posts. There's another number that can just be removed from posts. Take away that incentive to post junk also.
i just scan over threads ,i ignore posts from members pimping the signatures because your right ,it is usually low quality garbage |
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Why would you say it's of questionable quality and security? It has been verified by lots of people and the lead developer of Bitcoin. It would obviously be a good choice to use 0.9.3 as it is the most stable currently. You would just be wasting your time trying to make changes.
Uh.. so let me get this straight. 0.9.3 is the best version because its authors said so? Did you "verify" the code? I happen to know that real people have taken a look, and it's not pretty. real people like who ? http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-devdont see any names ....... |
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Could it become like those congressional bills where all the crap legislation gets stuck inside the fine print of the guns 'n drugs 'n terrroists 'n kids cover page?
While in theory that is the most sensible idea, in practice, adding other changes will only slow down the implementation of what already has proved to be very contentious (yet shouldn't have been). Heh. It would be a good idea, for example, to add code that sweeps "dust" more than 8 years old (ie, starting with the very oldest dust, at the beginning of next year) into the miners' pockets. If something has been sitting there for 8 years and it's too small to pay for the fees that would be needed to spend it, then it's useless to its present owner, burdensome to the whole network to keep track of, and ought to be aggregated and paid to miners for network security. But if you think the blocksize discussion is contentious? Sweeping dust would make the ultraconservatives and ultralibertarians here absolutely foam at the mouth. I'll not even suggest such a thing because the discussion would go absolutely off the rails. I'd cheerfully go even further and "sweep" *any* output that's been sitting there for >20 years (ie, lost keys) into a "mining fund," then have the coinbase of each block take 0.001% of the current mining fund balance in addition to the block subsidy. Anybody whose keys aren't actually lost can avoid the haircut by moving her funds from one pocket to another in a self-to-self transaction. sweep the dust thats too small to transact but anything substancial should NEVER be swept imo some people , maybe even satoshi has left the early blocks in a will to the kids or grandchildren etc we have to remember that dust today might be a enough to buy a lamborghini in 50 years others maybe young and keeping cold storage for retirement while working on other projects sway from bitcoin i dont think wallets should be "reposessed under any circumstances " even if they appear to be abandoned for years if we did that it would be a matter of time before someones wallet got reposessed then owner later tried to claim it |
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Millionaire? I dunno, but you will have much money I believe.
I think that we shouldnt peg bitcoin price to dollars though.
at some stage i believe we will be able to buy property or land etc directly for BTC from any real estate agent people will still compare it to dollars though ,no matter how high or low it goes IMO |
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Would you agree or not? Bitcoin Only Needs Two YearsHmmmm... I respect the guy yeah.. But I do not know where his information came from. 2 years might be a little bold.. Maybe give it 3-5 years. I am still having doubt about that. What do you think? Andreas is a dick who is not worth any of my time. He does look like a vampire in some pics but I think in general hes done a lot more for btc than most of the people here who don't like him Why is he a dick anyway? |
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people need to transact with btc ,its that simple
buy them ,use them ,buy more ,spend them as fast as you would spend cash anywhere you can
thats the only way to kick it into mainstream
everyone cannot hodl a few coins and hope to be millionaires or it will never happen
economy doesnt work that way
And yes, we just have to play our role. If bitcoin is successful one day those who think cheap and look down on bitcoiners and bitcoin as a whole will all be wrong. I hope they will realize that some day. im probably in the minority but i spend bitcoins on beer and whatever else i can every day but i replace $200 btc with $200 btc IMMEDIATELY probably 90% of people here wont spend a $200 btc because they probably bought it for 300-400-500-600-700+ etc but the best thing is to spend it and buy another one for $200 -if it goes back up you still win if nobody helps stimulate the economy ,it might not go back up ......... |
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people need to transact with btc ,its that simple
buy them ,use them ,buy more ,spend them as fast as you would spend cash anywhere you can
thats the only way to kick it into mainstream
everyone cannot hodl a few coins and hope to be millionaires or it will never happen
economy doesnt work that way
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When an ignored Troll posts in Bitcointalk, does she make a sound?  When someone Fucks lamchop in the ass ,does he squeal like a pig ? |
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