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1301  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: February 23, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
My strategy is set it and forget it. I recommend same if you don't have an urgent need.

That is the best strategy. But I would also recommend taking the following steps:

1. Take multiple backups of your private key, and store them safely and securely.
2. Make sure that your wallet is not hacked.


1. What's the reason for multiple backups? If you store them on different places, other people would have more chances of finding one of them. Don't tell me that you're going to store all of those multiple backups in a single vault. That'd be absurd.

2. Apparently, you won't know that until someone withdraws all the coins of your wallet. In other words, your coins might be in a bubble right now and the hacker is just waiting for the time that you add some more coins or the time when the price of bitcoin is good.
1302  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 19-Feb-2017] on: February 23, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
Bitconvex signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793678.0

Legendary:    0.03 BTC/Week
Hero Member:       0.02 BTC/Week
Senior Member:   0.01 BTC/Week
Full Member:        0.005 BTC/Week

Spectrocoin:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396926

Now only accept senior and above, so

SpectroCoin   |   p/w   |   .0003   |   .0003   |   .00025   changes to .0003   |   .0002   changes to x  |   x   |   x   |   x   |   10/w   |   40/w   |   N   |

Thank you so much! Smiley

Red asterisk on SpectroCoin because their campaign has unresolved scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586595.0). The same as Betcoin.ag's reason for red asterisk.
1303  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: @BTC_CHANGE_BOT Signature $$$ Info and Recruitment on: February 23, 2017, 03:52:34 PM
You guys should move this to Services section so it would have more participants.

It is not needed more participants. Almost all places are busy. Things are great.

I've added your campaign in the signature campaign table. Hope it helps. Smiley
1304  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: February 22, 2017, 01:54:14 PM
Its not as difficult as it seems to explain anyway just tell him how it is keep it basic just tell him all it really is like online currency that kind of runs like stock one day it can be lower and one day it can be higher. Your thinking about it hard but its rather simple I'm no wiz at bitcoin but in my understanding that is how it goes more or less.
That is true, no need to elaborate further just as simple as that, a teenager/children nowadays are very smart. They could understand things in just observing and if they become interested on it they will definitely do research and in few time they can catch up with it.
Well explaining to it like that will be easy, but do you expect that they will get it in the first time or they won't be asking anymore questions after that?  You see explaining to them is one thing teaching them how to use Bitcoin is another. I believe that to know that you have successfully explained it to them they must be using Bitcoin with ease. So I believe that teaching them how to use Bitcoin is the best explanation for them because after that they will find out the other uses of Bitcoin for themselves.

No matter how smart you are, you can't just understand everything about bitcoins when someone just said "Bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency." That's a broad topic that you have to discuss. Why is it decentralized? How is decentralized? How are we sure that it's decentralized? There's a deep explanation on these things and that's what you have to explain. Sure it's easy to know that bitcoin works the same way how you would spend fiat money, but bitcoins is much more than that. It's much more than an investment and a currency.
1305  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: February 22, 2017, 01:38:28 PM
With the recent jump once again at bitcoin im scared once again we do see a flash dump from no where without warning, and once again into the 800 dollars has already happened, looks like whales are making pressing into the market, and we dont know when this will happen but its almost a sure that will happen again.

If you're looking for a market that has a warning when the price is going to move up or down, you're in the wrong universe, kiddo. That doesn't exist here. You would find the article on reddit why the price is going down but when you check the price, everyone has already sold their coin. The news would always be delayed so other people leave a margin (i.e. 2%) and sell their coins when the price has decreased by that much.

Sure it will happen again. This is just one of the thousand times we will have a major price decrease. It's not as shocking as how much tension there would be when almost everyone's already using bitcoins. It was just PBoC (China) that has caused the recent major price decrease, what more could it be when all the major countries has teamed up and destroy bitcoins.
1306  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: February 22, 2017, 01:25:45 PM
i believe if the goverment will open the door for bitcoin to sign on his community. But all of them are still need a process dude.
Governments are never ever going to allow bitcoin to become something that is used by everyone and I think that is due to the fact that bitcoin is decentralized and it has no control over not so ever and the fact that it is not stable it could go and go down at any time, and honestly if people start using bitcoin more and more it will become not cool.

In other words, you think that the government will not allow bitcoins simply because of the features that it has. Bitcoin is decentralized, and no one's controlling it. Look at it as a palace that has no King, in fact, there's not even a throne. No one can control bitcoins. There's no way the government can control bitcoins because there's just no way to do so. You can buy all the coins, alright, then you can control it by holding all of them and not selling it ever. But that would just make bitcoin users even happier because they would be millionaires without any effort at all.

The government wouldn't spend that much fund just to prove a point that they are more in control than the simple idea of bitcoins.
1307  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 22, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Just do not forget the most important thing - the government regulation. That it can negatively affect the development of the currency. For example, the Chinese government has tightened measures to cryptocurrency
That is true that is why bitcoin can never become or replace the international currencies, because governments cannot control it and its value is not stable and it is not related to any fixed market and that is why they are trying to prevent us from using through making it harder for us to use it.

It's very impossible for bitcoin to replace international currencies and even the local currencies of small country they are not going to let it happen. Because if that will happen they can be controlled by a big or a holder that has a lot of bitcoins stored to his wallet or to his cold storage.
Any currency is the blood of the economy of the state. It should be strictly under government control. Let me remind you that the responsibility of any Central Bank is the stability of the currency. How this can be facilitated by bitcoin[1]?

Yeah, it is indeed a big problem for bitcoin can be accepted in the Government. Because the main problem in the bitcoin is a control center, where it now has no bitcoin someone who holds control center or maybe he's just hiding to keep control it[2]. It does not mean if the higher price bitcoin special will be noticed by the bank, but it could happen otherwise. So, better enjoy every results we get and wiser in addressing growth bitcoin in order to benefit the good life and help


[1] Why should it be bitcoin's problem? We don't have to merge with the banks because it would cause a lot of problems, like how would we implement it, etc. We're already good as we are. We are our own banks. It would come to a time when we can buy almost everything using bitcoins and banks wouldn't be used that much anymore except for converting some of our bitcoins to fiat.

[2] Bitcoin is decentralized and you should look up an explanation as to why is it like that instead of thinking that someone is in control and is just hiding somewhere.
1308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: February 22, 2017, 12:44:43 PM
it's looking bright right now, the price is steadily moving above $1000 and the news and adoption is moving positively, a ton of new people is getting into BTC as well, I guess everything is perfect for bitcoins now.
well don't want to bring you some bad news but I believe the price is going to come back pretty soon and not only go up all the time, to be honest I really want to be wrong about it, but the history shows different things.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Just because it went up and then went down quickly, doesn't mean it would happen again when the price has increased again. Because if it does, we will be stuck in an infinite loop of a market that goes up at a certain price and then goes down quickly right away. People would be raping that market if so.

The past is different from the present. Back then, people hyped bitcoins to $1200 and then realized it's actual worth so the price went down. There's not that much bitcoin users at that time. The price has become $1,100 again on January and the price went down to $760 because of the PBoC. But it's not going to happen again. They can't manipulate the market the same way they did before.
1309  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: @BTC_CHANGE_BOT Signature $$$ Info and Recruitment on: February 22, 2017, 11:30:41 AM
You guys should move this to Services section so it would have more participants.
1310  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: February 21, 2017, 01:02:36 PM
Not for now ,I am thinking what would be the main purpose or use of bitcoin bank rather than in a bitcoin wallets . More secure and having some loans is only comes to my mind .I just waiting what new features of improvement will be and to be sure that it will not have any effect on bitcoins especially its decentralization .

Insurance, I guess? Fiat banks have that. In case that the bank gets robbed, your money would still be safe. It can be applied as the same way as bitcoins, although it would be hard to the part of the bank owners because no one (including the government) can't just print out bitcoin unlike fiat as if was magic.

A bitcoin bank can also offer you more security. You wouldn't have to secure your bitcoins anymore by setting up a wallet and doing all the precautionary measures. They will do it for you.
1311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: February 21, 2017, 12:42:10 PM
If we compare bitcoin to real money its totally different because, bitcoin is a digital form of money which you can see through internet but cannot be touched. Unlike real money its a fiat currency type which could be touched and can be used hand in hand buying of goods, can be used in spending of different types of buying and selling, which circulates the economy of government  to be legal monetary currency.

Yup, bitcoin and real money is a very different thing. Because only virtual bitcoin or digital, while the real money can be original and digital. So, it's all actually is not an issue[1]. Because the bitcoin and also real money alike want to give you the ease of transaction[2] and also in all the existing currency, we can use them best to us or to our desires[3]. But for me to future investments would be more beneficial than bitcoin real money, because the price has a value of bitcoin is always changing and that will surely have always been high from time to time

[1] Maybe in your case, but at most cases, it is. I've tried introducing bitcoins to my friends before and one of their first questions is "How does a bitcoin looks like?" and I said that it has no physical form. They were kind of disappointed with the fact that bitcoin is only a data and it doesn't exist in the real world. Well, there's hardware wallet and physical bitcoins that have bitcoin in it but it costs some money.

[2] Apparently, cash can't give you as much ease of transaction as bitcoin can. For example, (a.) not having to be physically in the store, (b.) low and fast transaction fees, (c.) wide range of business opportunities for transactions.

[3] Not exactly to the best of our desires because there are people that wants bitcoin to have lower fees but that simply is not going to happen because more and more people are using bitcoins. That means more and more people are competing to have their transaction processed first so there's transaction fee bidding going on which increases the transaction fee a lot.
1312  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: February 21, 2017, 12:30:23 PM
Well the most projects does earn and pay with bitcoin their bills, but im pretty sure in the end everybody does convert their earnings into their local currencies. This just to say that the price will be always one of the main reasons to people trade and risk their money, since bitcoin its a digital currencie, the price will always be the main tool of any transaction.

Maybe "most" people but not all of us. Some loves using bitcoins when paying bills and even convert their fiat that they earned from their day job into bitcoins. You can spend your bitcoins now on Amazon using Purse.io. Unfortunately, but only people from the US and other similar countries are able to buy from Amazon. It would take a month or so before your package comes if you live far from the seller.

There are also some people like me that don't convert bitcoins that much simply because we're holding long term. And by long term I meant until the time the use of bitcoin becomes mainstream. It might take a long time but I'm still young anyway.
1313  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: February 21, 2017, 12:21:45 PM
I would say hold on to your BTC. you will never know what the price will be in the next couple of years. Seeing how it went up to $1000, compared to summer of 2016, it already proves the theory that BTC is good long term investment.

Yes, it does give you an advantage for our bitcoin, but all the things that exist in the bitcoin can also give us a loss if can't do it the best possible way. Because the Bitcoin will make us lose big if can't have high patience, bitcoin is not a suitable place for those who are impatient in waiting. Because we always make the bitcoin made a lot in the long run if the bitcoin can wait. The key to success in holding bitcoin is patience, without it then will not provide good impact

Most of the things in this life depend on time. When bitcoin isn't rising at all, you actually have no choice but to wait because you only live in the present and time only moves for a second, then another second, then another.. You can't fast forward to next week to see if the price of bitcoin has finally increased.

In the long run, you surely can make profit from holding bitcoins. But I think that keeping an eye on the news like SegWit, Core vs BU, legalization of bitcoin in certain countries as a payment method, etc. can help you give an idea if the price is going down or if it is going up. But of course you can also do short trading if you're not that patient but you know how to spot a good trade. It's much better that way because you're making more bitcoins as the price is growing as well.
1314  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 21, 2017, 12:08:52 PM
I do not think the bitcoin can let banks disappear now.But the banks may disappear in the future not only because of btc.

Banks cannot disappear, it might be possible that physically banks may go obsolete, but electronically it will  continue to function. Bitcoin is great but some features are missing which general people will like to have. And also the trust factor towards a bank is too high.

As long as fiat has a physical form, there would also be physical banks. ATMs have to be refilled with new cash by the banks. You also need to have a physical bank when you're depositing and opening an account, because otherwise, the bank would have problems. Supposed that they automate opening an account on their bank, there would be people that do not know how to use it and would need guidance. Same goes when depositing money.

There would also be people that would not feel safe when he's going to deposit tons of money in a bank and just be in front of a machine. It would also be tiring to enter all the cash that he needs to deposit (for example, $100,000). Banks are also needed so there would be a building where all the cash of that particular bank is stored. Without a building, the security would be much less.
1315  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: February 20, 2017, 02:55:26 PM
If I were you, I'd search for affiliate programs. Especially those that have lifetime bonuses, not one-time

What do you mean by lifetime bonus? Is it the same affiliate program that gives you small amount of bonus every single day? I really doubt that it's a lifetime thing given that websites tend to only last more than a year or so.

I would prefer one time affiliate programs. For example, when someone bought an item and used your affiliate link. Youtubers do this often and they seem to make good amount of money from it because otherwise, they wouldn't make all those Youtube videos and include their affiliate code in every single item that they feature.
1316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: February 20, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
Quote
   
What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays?

The jobs center and it's available in almost all cities   Roll Eyes

Being employed is a good source of income. But not all cities do have openings for bitcoin jobs. And that's why you need to look for some other ways which are already exposed here in forum. For me, will always be the best source.

I don't know any city in the world, where is a job center, where you can find a job, which is paid in bitcoins. I think you are mixing two things together.
Yes, there are centers, which can help you to find a job, but the job is paid in fiat. You can buy bitcoins with your earned fiat, but then I wouldn't say the job centers are the best source of bitcoins.
If you want to earn bitcoins for work directly, you should visit some website for freelancers (1xbit, ...). If you want to gain btc from earnings from your daily job, then you should use some exchange service (localbitcoins etc.)

Well if your boss is a cool guy and knows about bitcoin, he might ask people around him if they want to get paid in bitcoins. It doesn't make any sense if you're going to change your job or prefer a job over another just because it pays in bitcoin form. Always pick the best job for you in terms of payment rate, location, and if it's your passion. Even if the job pays in fiat, you can simply convert them to bitcoins. No need for you to demand your boss or your accountant office to pay you in bitcoins.
1317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 20, 2017, 01:49:25 PM
Lets just accept the truth that as long as the governments are not endorsing bitcoin as a currency, we will be at the same situation for a little longer, until the people are the one who are already spreading the news about bitcoin and forced the government to just legalize the use of it.

Though I don't see the time that bitcoin will make banks disappear, I think it is possible that bitcoin will be seen on banks...  Smiley

Bitcoin doesn't offer the average joes what they want in order to fully adapt it at some point. Here are some reasons;

# Bitcoin isn't a suitable currency for daily purchases due the fees that are likely only to increase, and of course don't forget the confirmation times.
[1]# Bitcoin at all times requires you to be connected to the internet.
[2]# Bitcoin is subject to the volatility.
[3]# Bitcoin can't handle mass adoption.
[4]# Bitcoin is a decentralized incentive, which the average joe type of people don't feel comfortable with as they are used to have the government as central authority.
[5]# Bitcoin is too complicated for a lot people.
[6]# Bitcoin has almost zero merchant adoption if you put it against how other payment services are being accepted globally.

And there are probably a few more things... Long story short; Bitcoin is just an asset as Gold, but then with a far better usability. Gold 2.0?

[1] Not necessary "all the time" but only when you're sending money or when you're checking if you already received the payment. Even after being offline for a couple of weeks, your bitcoins would still be in your wallet.

[2] It's a disadvantage to the average joe but it's an advantage to most of us. Eventually, the average joe will evolve and learn how to take advantage with the price volatility.

[3] Maybe not now.

[4] Sadly but people always want to have someone in charge even in small activities (i.e. group activity in school) which obviously don't call for an authority. Maybe the average joe would want to try something new and try decentralized stuffs.

[5] Only when you're not a tech savvy and if you don't read much. You don't have to be all technical.

[6] Eventually, we'll get there although it might be much longer than we are expecting.
1318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is being told to people in High Schools about Bitcoin on: February 20, 2017, 01:35:41 PM
It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.
I am not really worried about the kids, but more on the educators / teachers who will have to get the message across. today’s youth are more digitally-inclined compared to those who are say in their 40’s. Based on personal experience, my teachers didn’t do a pretty good job in making me understand about the real world economics back in my high school days[1]. So I guess if bitcoin is to be introduced in schools, teachers should first undergo a more thorough and careful understanding of the subject matter in order for them to teach it properly.


[1] My teachers also weren't able to make me understand Math in my high school days, but it was not their fault. As a teenager, we tend to be lazy because of puberty stuffs and all the distractions that surrounds us. If other students were able to understand what real world economics, then you might be the problem and not the teacher. Seriously we can't blame our teacher. We can't say they are "not entertaining enough", "too boring", "not funny", etc. and so we don't want to learn from them. In addition to this, the education back then is different with the education today.
1319  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 20, 2017, 01:12:56 PM
yes, Bitcoin will replace the dollar soon because dollar is not a world money. Though world accept dollar, is not a world money. Many countries use their own money. Dollar is also a money for some countries. But Bitcoin is not a money for any particular country. So, it can be used as a world money.       
No I don't think so that will ever happen because the reason is pretty obvious did you ever use gold to make payments no even though it is used a bit in world economy[1] , so if we don't use gold as a method of payment then why would we use bitcoin[2] as bitcoin was made to replace gold so why don't we just let it be a investment platform only[3].

[1]

Q: "Why do you think bitcoin will not replace USD?"
A: ".. because gold didn't."

Gold might be one of the major opponents of bitcoin but they are definitely not the same. Gold has a physical form but gold can also be in digital form. We haven't used gold as a payment method because only rich people do. The government uses gold to do large transactions to other businesses.

And by the way, with history we know that Gold was actually our fiat back then (i.e. Gold coin)

[2] Gold and bitcoin are two different things. Just because the other one didn't make it, doesn't mean the other one will not make it too.

[3] No one's trying to take away the capacity of yours to invest by holding bitcoins. We should not dismiss the fact that bitcoin is actually a currency, although it's being treated as an investment by almost all of us.
1320  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 08-Feb-2017] on: February 20, 2017, 12:09:33 PM
Upon discussing the meaning of FLUX on PM with Mitchell, I moved WhyFuture back to Active.

Updated table: OP has been updated.
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