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1521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 30, 2016, 03:45:09 PM
Revelation is a little bit difficult to understand. Some of it is literal, and some figurative. Some of it talks about the future, some about the past, some about all times.

This isn't simply a problem with Revelation... it's a problem with the entire bible...

How do you decide which part is literal vs metaphor?  I read the bible... God did not include any hints or footnotes about what is meant to be literal vs metaphor...

Who are you to decide that God meant something metaphorically, instead of the way He literally wrote the bible? (Is God the author, or you?)

Do you really think you are qualified to be God's editor/interpreter of the bible?
1522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 30, 2016, 03:38:17 PM
You're not thinking about what entity does the bailing out.  In both the case between America and Iceland, it was the socialistic element which does the bailing out, it is the interventionist; the capitalistic element can, at best, influence these decisions made by the socialist element...

In other words... when America does something you like, it's because of capitalism... and when America does anything you don't like, it's because of socialism?

Seems legit...

It must be easy to "blame the other" for all your problems, eh?
1523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: to the misinformed member that wrote that white people stole blacks from Africa. on: March 30, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
black slaves were sold to jewish merchants by other blacks and arabs and 200 years later europeans get all of the blame. most slaves were treated well by their white masters and led decent lives with fair working conditions and little to complain about.

Because yeah, when I think slave.. I think well-treated...

Were you there?

Do you really think a bunch of savages, capable of owning another human being as property, treated said "property" with respect?  No!  They didn't!

The only respectable slave owners were ones who did not support slavery at all... occasionally an affluent person would own slaves because of peer pressure, and would treat their slaves with respect, but that is the exception not the rule...
1524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: to the misinformed member that wrote that white people stole blacks from Africa. on: March 29, 2016, 09:18:07 PM
I wrote 4% of southern gentiles own slaves. 88% of Jews owned slaves in the south. Not opinion, but a fact.

Who are you kidding?

Where would you even find statistics like that? (other than the obvious, your ass)

Do you seriously think someone kept track of each person's religion 200 years ago?  They don't even do that now!


The only point you made which was remotely accurate, was about Africans selling their criminals as slaves...

Not so much criminals, rather prisoners of war... African tribes would fight each in fake-ish battles where nobody died, but you could get captured as a slave for a year... These "slaves" were sometimes sold to whites, yes
1525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism and Health on: March 29, 2016, 08:20:01 PM
@Badecker

Should you ever get your own religious tv show i will for sure buy some shares of it ^^

Thank you... I think.

This stuff is written in the Bible. The Bible scholars have said and showed the parts of it for hundreds of years, even if they haven't put them together quite the way that I have.

However, even if I am wrong in some of what I think, the basics of Jesus salvation, the New Heavens and the New Earth, the lake of fire, the enemies of God including Satan and the people who side with him against God going into the lake of fire, are among many simple truths that are expressed in the Bible.

Be among those who are saved.



If that is tl;dr, how about a Venn diagram?

1526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 29, 2016, 07:54:50 PM
Happy Zombie-Jesus day to everyone!













1527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 07:42:14 PM
Yup, Socialism sucks.

If we are talking about socialism, I assume everyone forgot about what 2008 financial crisis was about.

Or didnt know the situation how banks got bailed = socialism. People dont know the difference.. true capitalism is when business fail they get no hand outs lol.

You have that exactly backwards...

In capitalism... the rich bankers who caused the crisis get bailed out (America)

In democratic-socialism... the rich bankers who caused the crisis go to jail, and the citizens get bailed out (Iceland)
www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/24/if-iceland-can-jail-bankers-for-the-crash-then-why-cant-america
1528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 07:30:29 PM
Isaiah 14: On the day the LORD gives you relief from suffering and turmoil and cruel bondage, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon Moloch:
Quote
“I will rise up against them,”
declares the LORD Almighty.
“I will cut off from Babylon her Moloch his name and survivors,
her offspring and descendants,”
declares the LORD.

I love it!

Now you are speaking for God?  How very christian of you Wink

Isn't that blasphemy?
Changing the word of God?
Using God's name in vain?

Which commandment was that again?

I suppose it's #2 if you are a catholic, and #3 if you are a protestant...
Did you know that protestants and catholics don't even believe the same 10-commandments?

1529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Trump Wall on: March 29, 2016, 07:21:02 PM
Some sections of this existing wall are better than others.  Your picture proves nothing.

I was responding to a question of "what wall?"

It proves there is a wall, and if you read the Wikipedia quote, you would know that as of January 2010 (6 years ago), it is complete


What are the specs of Trump's wall?
Is it taller than 21 feet?
More than 6 feet deep in the ground?
Is it cemented in a 3-foot-wide trench with 5000 psi concrete?

How is Trump's wall better than the existing wall?
1530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
....

When told he was a single-issue candidate by Hillary, his response was "I am a single-issue candidate, and that issue is the disappearing middle class"

That's literally all Bernie fights for is the middle class...

What you really don't understand is that the money has to be taken from the middle class, and will be.  The puffery about taking it from the rich is NOT what will actually happen.

Why?  The middle-class have no money...

There are 62 people who control 50% of the income/money... tax them!  It's the only thing that makes sense... you can't tax the poor... we have no money!....

Oh, the middle class still has a lot of money.  They have not been completely hollowed out yet.  For an example of that, look at Argentina.

The elitists in Washington DC know who they will pull money from.  The middle class. Because the billionaires pull the strings.

Why do you think they are spending so much money to smear and slander Bernie Sanders (and partially Trump as well)?

They cannot stand the thought of a non-establishment president... he might actually start taxing the rich... well... Bernie might...

The only reason taxes are so high on the middle-class is because the rich only pay 5-9% in taxes... which makes the middle-class shoulder the burden and pay 35%+ in many cases

If rich people were taxed at 35% instead of 5%, the middle-class would only have to pay 20% instead of 35%... novel concept, eh?
1531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 06:01:36 PM
Creation is like Moloch's computer. Moloch sits down at his keyboard and creates posts for the forum. He designs them with reasonable care. He artistically places all the words in their correct places. Then he posts them. They are his works of art, his creations.

What if Moloch's words had a life of their own? What if the things he was attempting to say with his creative words, was corrupted because the words took on their own life and changed themselves into things that they wanted rather than what Moloch wanted? What if this happened with almost all of his words? What would Moloch do?

Would Moloch, out of love for the good things the words could say, give the words a second chance to turn back to be as he created them? How many chances would he give them? How long would it take before Moloch erased the batch of his rebellious words, and wrote new words in their place? And how long would he put up with the new words when they rebelled like the old?

Would Moloch ever fall in love with the words so that he would be designing them for their own good? Or would he always be simply doing it for his own pleasure?

How long would it take Moloch before he got a new keyboard? And if he found that getting a new keyboard didn't help, how long would it take before he reloaded the OS on his computer? Or maybe he would get a new computer, and completely trash his old one.

That is some epic praise for Moloch, but I like Allen Ginsberg's rendition better:

Quote from: Howl - Act 2
What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!
Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!
Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments!
Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities!
Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind!
Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream Angels! Crazy in Moloch! Cocksucker in Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch!
Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky!
Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!
Visions! omens! hallucinations! miracles! ecstasies! gone down the American river!
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive bullshit!
Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Ten years’ animal screams and suicides! Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time!
Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving! carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the street!
1532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 05:52:23 PM
....

When told he was a single-issue candidate by Hillary, his response was "I am a single-issue candidate, and that issue is the disappearing middle class"

That's literally all Bernie fights for is the middle class...

What you really don't understand is that the money has to be taken from the middle class, and will be.  The puffery about taking it from the rich is NOT what will actually happen.

Why?  The middle-class have no money...

There are 62 people who control 50% of the income/money... tax them!  It's the only thing that makes sense... you can't tax the poor... we have no money!
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

I guarantee not a single one of these 62 people is paying even 10% in taxes...

It's not about taxing the fuck out of rich people... it's about taxing them the same as everyone else!... they should be paying 25-35%+ in taxes like the middle-class, not 9% like Mitt Romney (who overpaid by $500,000 while running for president, and still only paid 9%!)
1533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Trump Wall on: March 29, 2016, 05:42:49 PM
We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
What wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier

Quote
The Mexico–United States barrier is a series of walls and fences along the Mexico–United States border, strategically placed to inhibit the flow of illegal border crossings into the Southwestern United States. The walled sections are interspersed with a ‘virtual fence’ of sensors and cameras...

As of January 2010, the fence project has been completed from San Diego, California to Yuma, Arizona. From there it continues into Texas and consists of a fence that is 21 feet (6.4 m) tall and 6 feet (1.8 m) deep in the ground, cemented in a 3-foot (0.91 m)-wide trench with 5000 psi (UK/Ireland:345 bar; 352 kg/cm²) concrete...

1534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: March 29, 2016, 05:32:02 PM
This isn't the craziest shit in the bible... but who doesn't love some good rules about how to treat virgin daughters and their rapist?

Quote from: Deuteronomy 22:13-29
If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
1535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: March 29, 2016, 05:20:36 PM
If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Able...

And, Cain murders Able...

How are we here?

Did Cain have sex with his mother?

Did Adam and Eve have a daughter not mentioned in the bible?

Did Cain have sex with his not-important-enough-to-be-mentioned sister?

You should read Bible and you will know answer Smiley
After Cain killed Abel Adam and Eve got third son- Seth.
Bible didn't mention other, female children of Adam and Eve, or maybe other families (probably because such fact wasn't historically important) but surely Cain and Seth had wives and kids, as in every other family Smiley

So you are saying Cain married his sister?  Even though God forbade it?

Quote from: Leviticus 18:9
Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

Quote from: Leviticus 20:17
If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible

Quote from: Deuteronomy 27:22
“Cursed is anyone who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.”

Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”

Also, why does God repeat himself so much in the bible?  It would be a lot shorter if he didn't have to repeat himself 3+ times with everything he says...
1536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
I bid you a good day for I'm tired of participating in another discussion...

Typical answer when you don't want to hear what the other person has to say...

Might as well throw in a "God bless" or "I'll pray for you" at the end to give it a real, "fuck you"
1537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 04:49:28 PM
Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Here's your free stuff.  When will you wackos figure out that nothing is free.  Free tuition!!! Yay, right?!?!?!  More social security, yay, right?!?!?!?  Extended healthcare coverage, yay, right?!?!?!
Anyway, you get the point.  Bernie will tax the crap out of everyone, and in so doing will kill job after job after job.  Here is what happens:

Economic Impact
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, Senator Bernie Sanders’s tax plan would reduce the economy’s size by 9.5 percent in the long run. The plan would lead to 4.3 percent lower wages, an 18.6 percent smaller capital stock, and 6.0 million fewer full-time equivalent jobs. The smaller economy results from higher marginal tax rates on capital and labor income.
Table 2.
Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP  -9.5%
Capital Investment  -18.6%
Wage Rate  -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands)  -5,973

Stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.  He wants to extend the welfare state, thats "free food, utilities, etc."  Moloch have you ever lived in a socialist country??  Socialism will destroy all innovation in the United States.  It will destroy the US.

Whose ass did you pull those numbers out of?  How could you possibly know how taxes affect GDP, investment rate, etc?  6 million fewer jobs?!? How could you know any of that?

What "tax plan" are you even talking about?  Bernie has not released any "tax plan"... are you talking about his single-payer insurance plan that he released 2 months ago?  Do you even know what you are talking about?



No, I have never lived in a socialist country, but I have visited a few of them... I have also done a fair bit of research on socialism...

Have you visited a socialist country, or done even the slightest bit of research into socialist policies?
Or, are you just saying it's evil because that's what you were told in elementary school?

Just goes to show how little you actually know about bernie's proposals, he has released a tax plan (you can find details http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan).  You love the utopian idea, but it isn't even a remote possibility.  I have lived in Spain and Mexico, both are a travesty not some utopian awesomeness.  I run my own business and have several friends that left socialist countries because of their pressure on small businesses.  If we go down the road of socialism, our country will die a terrible, agonizing death.

Just goes to show how little you actually know...

I looked at your link and the numbers they use come solely from Bernie's single-payer insurance plan... in fact, everything does... look at the sources they list for references... there is no "tax plan" listed... it's all stuff in his single-payer insurance plan + random quotes they found on the internet

It is also completely inaccurate, let me elaborate:

Quote
Senator Sanders (I-VT) would enact a number of policies that would raise payroll taxes and individual income taxes, especially on high-income households.
This part is actually true... his insurance plan will tax the rich more than the poor

Quote
Senator Sanders’s plan would raise tax revenue by $13.6 trillion over the next decade on a static basis. However, the plan would end up collecting $9.8 trillion over the next decade when accounting for decreased economic output in the long run.
This point is half-true...

His single-payer insurance plan has been estimated to cost anywhere between $9 and $13.6 trillion, depending on the source... (obviously they chose the most extreme end)

What they neglect to mention is that the current cost of healthcare is $20 trillion during the same decade (if we don't change anything)... so even if Bernie's cost $13.6 trillion, you save $20 trillion, making a net savings of $6.4 trillion over a decade... that is how Bernie saves Americans $5,000 per household per year... yet this article makes it sound like a bad thing

The "decreased economic output" is just bullshit nonsense speculation, nothing more... pay no attention to that, it's pulled out of someones ass

Quote
A majority of the revenue raised by the Sanders plan would come from a new 6.2 percent employer-side payroll tax, a new 2.2 percent broad-based income tax, and the elimination of tax expenditures relating to healthcare.
Also half-true...

For the same reason... yes, taxes go up, but you and your employer no longer pay $400-1200+ per month in healthcare premiums... this is a replacement, not an extra fee...

It's complete slander to say Bernie will raise your taxes without mentioning how much he will save you...


Once again, Bernie will save $6.4 trillion according to your source (though they neglect to even mention that once)... if you go with the extreme example on the other side (his plan costing $9 trillion over 10-years)... he will save $11 trillion instead of only saving $6.4 trillion...

How is that a bad thing?!?


All of his tax changes involve lowering taxes on people making less than $250,000 per year, and raising them on people making more than $3,000,000 per year... how is that bad?!?
1538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 04:37:55 PM
Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...


Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

Ah, the bird trick.

You've been conned there, buddy.

Bernie does nothing but fight for the underdog... the middle-class and poverty stricken...

He is basically Jesus, and you fools treat him exactly like the Jews treated Jesus...  When is the crucifixion?
No, Bernie is not Jesus.

He's just a politician, playing the tired old game of pushing socialism.

Which, for your information, always does the same thing - it takes money AWAY from the middle class.  Always.  It will shelter the rich and super rich, because they work with the socialist leaders and are in on the con games.

Why must you compare Bernie to... Who are you even comparing him to? Some fears inside your head? Which country or leader are you talking about?

You can't seriously throw out some generality like, "all socialist countries ever, were evil", and not back it up

Bernie is a social-democrat / democratic-socialist... Which is not socialist, which is not communist...

The problem is, people like you tend to make it easy and call everything evil... Because you are ignorant of "the other", and it is easier to hate that which you do not understand, than it is to do some fucking research
Actually it is you that are throwing all the labels around.

And thank you very much, but I've traveled extensively in socialist and communist countries, so fuck off with your poor understanding of these concepts.  It's laughable, trying to argue "social democrat" and what that is.  

Here's the key point.  I'm going to repeat it for you.

Which, for your information, always does the same thing - it takes money AWAY from the middle class.  Always.  It will shelter the rich and super rich, because they work with the socialist leaders and are in on the con games.

Oh, also.  Why should I care about some prez not liking "Citizens United?"  That's a Supreme Court thing.  Duh...

With all that huff and puff trolling, you didn't even answer my question... all you did was try to make yourself sound superior by claiming to have "traveled extensively in socialist and communist countries, so fuck off with your poor understanding of these concepts"... quit your bullshit

You also know nothing about Bernie's platform... let me help you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CXxdhlamg8

When told he was a single-issue candidate by Hillary, his response was "I am a single-issue candidate, and that issue is the disappearing middle class"

That's literally all Bernie fights for is the middle class...
1539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 04:25:43 PM
Quote from: Moloch
You are correct in that atheists don't have a written moral code, like the 10 commandments, but you are incorrect that we don't have values... Atheists are the only ones who took the time to think about morals on their own... we decided right from wrong based on the impact on society, not from some dusty old book...

I do agree that Atheists do have morals, however those morals were impacted, be it by indirect historical influence or (doesn't seem like in this case) directly by providing a base, by the "dusty old book" you are talking about.

This is a common misconception...

We have already established that do not steal/murder are based in atheism/philosophy, rather than christianity...

I propose that all morals are based in such things... christians also did not invent the concept of the golden rule, "treat your neighbor as yourself", etc...

The only influences that christianity has had on society are negative... all of them... there is evidence to back up this claim

Christianity has convinced people for 2000 years that witches, homosexuality, and practicing any other religion is evil and worthy of death (it says so right in the book)

Christianity has also preached that slavery is lawful and not a bad thing... in both the old and new testament, so don't get all, "but the new testament doesn't say that" on me...

The entirety of christian history is nothing but war and murdering "the other"...

You want to talk about the most savage murderer of all time?
God
... no contest... God murders countless people in the bible... literally...
How do you count how many people God killed in the flood?
In just the places which give numbers, God is responsible for murdering 2,400,000+ people (not counting the flood, 10th plague of Egypt, and other uncountable genocides at the hand of God)...  Which war had more than 2,400,000 deaths?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people


What sort of all-knowing God creates a planet only to declare everyone evil, wipe it out with a flood, and start over?

Couldn't he see that coming, and create humans slightly less evil the first time?
1540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 03:51:25 PM
Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...


Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

Ah, the bird trick.

You've been conned there, buddy.

Bernie does nothing but fight for the underdog... the middle-class and poverty stricken...

He is basically Jesus, and you fools treat him exactly like the Jews treated Jesus...  When is the crucifixion?
No, Bernie is not Jesus.

He's just a politician, playing the tired old game of pushing socialism.

Which, for your information, always does the same thing - it takes money AWAY from the middle class.  Always.  It will shelter the rich and super rich, because they work with the socialist leaders and are in on the con games.

Why must you compare Bernie to... Who are you even comparing him to? Some fears inside your head? Which country or leader are you talking about?

You can't seriously throw out some generality like, "all socialist countries ever, were evil", and not back it up

Bernie is a social-democrat / democratic-socialist... Which is not socialist, which is not communist...

The problem is, people like you tend to make it easy and call everything evil... Because you are ignorant of "the other", and it is easier to hate that which you do not understand, than it is to do some fucking research
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