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1661  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] 5 Lots with Bitcoin Stickers on: December 12, 2022, 06:49:13 PM
The stickers have arrived here too and they are very nice (much better than my phone's camera managed to capture)! Thank you!

1662  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-11-03] Plans Now Let Workers Put Retirement Money Into Cryptocurrency on: December 12, 2022, 06:37:31 PM
When you retire the money you have saved for years should make you feel safe. You've worked for years and now it's time to retire to the comfort of your own. Let's face it, risk still exists for cryptocurrencies. For this reason, you may feel like you are alone on a deserted island in the middle of the ocean in a big crypto drop that will occur at retirement time. But even if you lose, you can deposit crypto money for retirement funds in amounts that you will not be upset about. Maybe these crypto money you deposit will cover all your retirement savings in the future. I think risk taking for the pension fund should be avoided.

You are only partly right. All investment funds, including pension funds, do invest in a wide range of assets, from the most solid ones (government bonds and so on) to some riskier ones (like stocks).
The percent of funds in the various assets depends, in some cases even the user has a choice to make (within a rather small range).
This being said, investing some percent of the fund in crypto will not have a dramatic effect, in any direction. Still, if instead of crypto they invest in bitcoin, since those coins will be held for way more than 4 years, they can return nice gains, making the days of the elderly significantly easier/better.

So you are right, they should not take big risks. But some rather small percent has the potential to do more good than bad (especially if the investment is in bitcoin, not the historically disappointing "crypto").
1663  Other / Meta / Re: So many threads on FIFA World Cup 2022 on: December 12, 2022, 11:26:27 AM
Duplicate threads should be reported to mods for vetting. If they're needlessly opened, should be taken down.

Exactly. Duplicated topics will always be created and the rule hasn't change and doesn't have to change specifically for this.

And exactly because of this reason (maybe this is a bit harsh, however) this too can also be seen as "just another World Cup 2022 topic".
However, the good news is that there's only this week left and then these topics will become obsolete and will die off.
1664  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: PNNV.com - Major update #2 - need your review, again! on: December 12, 2022, 11:11:37 AM
I've found something a bit counter-intuitive.

By default the price is from Bitstamp. It shows 16990.
I switch and get price only from Binance: 16985.85
Then I check them both. Price is now 17008.52; far from an expected something-in-the-middle  Cheesy

I can guess that in the last case you use a different source (coingecko?) that maybe has a different refresh rate and logic, still.. looks odd.
It doesn't matter to me much, however I thought you may want to know.


The exchange is an interesting addition, good luck with it, maybe it helps you earn at least the funds invested in this project.
1665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How does Bitcoin Under Bep-20 works ? on: December 12, 2022, 11:03:12 AM
I find the Bep-20 BTC deposit as the fastest way to receive and send Bitcoin directly into any centralized exchange account that supports it.

BEP-20 BTC is an altcoin. Unlike Bitcoin, which is decentralized and accepted by all crypto exchanges, this BEP-20 BTC thing is a centralized token that runs on Binance chain and I don't think that many accept it (except Binance, of course).
So you use a coin that is not Bitcoin, which is barely accepted and for which you have to trust Binance that this token's price will stay "close enough" to Bitcoin price. Hence sorry, but you're doing it wrong and on the long term you may face (bad) surprises.

And as a lesson: one can name any crap Bitcoin or Bitcoin whatever, but that doesn't make it Bitcoin. The actual Bitcoin works only on Bitcoin's blockchain. Period.
1666  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: December 12, 2022, 10:08:30 AM
A platit, nu zic nu, dar adu-ti aminte ca, la editia anterioara a concursului, a fost de multe ori acuzat, mai mult sau mai putin voalat, ca a influentat voturile acordand merite, special pentru a fi numit de cat mai multi (cea ce s-a si intamplat, de atlfel). Pare ca tine mortis sa iasa in fata cu orice pret. Aici, de pilda, abia ce imi postasem si eu recordul personal, ca imediat a postat si el, sa fie sigur ca nu va uita lumea de el. E ridicol, mai ales ca postarea lui vine imediat dupa a mea (si la doar 2 ore). Adica e limpede ca a facut-o in mod special.

In plus, nu uita ca a fost acuzat de doua ori de plagiarism (prima data fiind acuzat de nullius, care a explicat foarte bine de ce, ceea ce a facut, este, intr-adevar, plagiarism). Din motive nestiue, a scapat de ambele dati.

Nu uita ca primele 5000 de merite le-a facut fix cu acest mod ingenios de plagiarism, traducand diverse articole si aruncand undeva, intr-un coltisor mic sursa, insa articolul parand ca e scris de el. E ca si cum m-as apuca eu sa scriu pe un forum S.F. din Jules Verne, sa primesc mii de merite dar -- ce crezi? -- tot ce scriu sa fie din cartile marelui autor.

Nu uita ca a fost si exclus din campania din care facem si noi parte (si, din motive nebanuite, reacceptat).

Tot ce face omul acesta mie mi se pare cusut cu ata alba sau ca este o incercare de a iesi in fata cu ceva. De aceea sunt reticent la aceasta sponsorizare - de zece ori mai mare decat premiul pus la dispozitie de organizator...

Nu imi spui nimic din ceea ce nu stiu. Cred ca descrierea pe care i-a facut-o un DT chiar ca trust feedback neutru este cel putin adecvata. Ce alte motive are in spate, nu stiu.
Dar sa stii ca mai cunosc persoane care tin cu orice pret sa fie in centrul reflectoarelor. Au un defect de fabricatie Cheesy Asa ca nu stiu ce sa zic.

Iar motivul pentru care a fost re-acceptat cred ca, oricate putem spune despre el, face un numar mare de postari lucrate cu grija si foarte informative, ceea ce este un plus pentru forum, si adaugand la asta dorinta de a fi sub lumina reflectoarelor, inseamna ca nu ai cum sa-l ratezi nici pe el, nici reclama pe care o poarta. Si as mai adauga ca rusii pot fi clienti importanti pentru un mixer, si ambasador mai bun decat el pentru acea zona s-ar putea sa nu prea fie...
1667  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: December 12, 2022, 09:29:21 AM
Eu am mizat

Vezi ca ai ceva greseli de copy-paste in participarea la concurs  Wink

Una peste alta, sponsorizarea e binevenita, insa am rezervele mele fata de motivul pentru care a aparut aceasta sponsorizare. Ceva nu-mi miroase bine aici si, tare-mi e ca totul e doar pentru imagine (sau, cine stie, pentru mai multe voturi in concursul Premiilor Comunitatii forumului)...

Nu m-ar mira, persoana are un istoric destul de ciudat si, sa zic asa, sulfuros. Dar, daca imi amintesc bine, a pierdut candva un pariu si a platit; plus ca a avut cel putin o tombola in bani si a platit.
Deci faptul ca o fi facand asta cu dublu scop nu m-ar mira deloc. Dar cred ca premiile sunt valide.
1668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Bitcoin unit look like in real life on: December 12, 2022, 09:00:01 AM
Basically, I'm curious to know what a bitcoin or any cryptocurrency unit looks like in real life.

I guess that you've managed to miss the part telling that Bitcoin is a virtual currency. It has no tangible form.

It's somehow similar to your money as long as you use it only in bank transfers and credit card, no ATM, not paper bills.
Or it's somehow similar with a thought or idea. Or, somehow similar to the music at the radio.

You can use software to find out how much you own, but it has no physical shape.
1669  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Making post for merit on: December 11, 2022, 09:24:55 PM
CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post.

I see this somewhat incorrect (as logic). One can search for merit and actually do that by trying to make very good posts.

Even high rank users are chasing merits sometimes. Some want to get to the highest rank there is (since it may bring more money from signature campaigns), some probably want to prove something (I don't know what though).
As long as this brings really good and useful posts, it's not really harm in that. The problems start when dirty tactics are used in an attempt to "rush" the achievements.

And one important thing that imho can be also mentioned even in this context is that reputation is important and it's very easy to lose it (and very hard, sometimes impossible to recover).
So even if one may be chasing merits, all he can do is to do his best in post quality and information quality. Any shortcuts can easily backfire.
1670  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Payment Unit for Labor Absolution is still alive in 2022 on: December 11, 2022, 08:24:47 PM
Am reusit sa-mi cumpăr al 10-lea telefon pe anul asta. Sper sa fie cu noroc, restul s-au dus pe apa sîmbetei. [~snip~] Sper sa ma țină ăsta până la anul.

Mult noroc și să te țină până când te plictisești tu de el Cheesy
...Sau cel puțin până în primăvară, ca să nu ai cheltuieli neprevăzute peste iarnă...

Am ajuns la concluzia că telefoanele au devenit consumabile.

Erau de multișor consumabile... dar la un nivel cam de un telefon nou la 1-2 ani, nu la luna Cheesy

Voi ce mai faceți?

Binișor, mulțumim. Eu unul aștept sărbătorile. (Bun aștept și prețul bitcoinului să intre pe pantă ascendentă, dar asta .. cum o fi norocul..)
La ce mai e nou prin secțiunea românească a forumului ți-a făcut Gazeta un rezumat bunicel.
După cum vezi ne străduim să scriem mai frumos. Cheesy (detalii aici)
Și când mai intri și ai timp îți recomand să arunci un ochi pe lista de concursuri și tombole, poate prinzi să câștigi ceva, doar să fii atent care au transport gratuit până în România (și care nu) sau au premii în bani.

Chiar mă bucur că mai dai un semn pe aici.
1671  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: An IDEA for BTC ˝ ing structure. on: December 11, 2022, 08:05:43 PM
If we keep the same block speed (at ~10 minutes) and start doubling periods we will go over 21M bitcoin. Not good.
If we slow down the blocks it will be easier to keep all the numbers right but then we may end up with an overly congested mempool as a rule, not an exception. And on-chain transactions still have to go even if the majority may get to go off-chain (LN and maybe other innovation too by then).

I'm not convinced that any of these would have a good effect.
Sorry.


Edit - some useful links:
* to get the current numbers: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply
* food for thought: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Prohibited_changes
1672  Other / Archival / Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards on: December 11, 2022, 07:24:28 PM
Based on the feedback it doesn't look like a scam and cards work, but they aren't cheap.

I've read about that service at some point, I didn't know if it still works, however, I find it far too expensive compared to amounts I'd be using it with plus some effort to keep everything working; for me it doesn't worth the hassle.
I mean that if one doesn't use it extensively then crypto ATMs or the KYC cards + the tax can easily get cheaper.

Thanks though.
1673  Economy / Economics / Re: A new dimension in the FTX saga: Sam doesn't read books! on: December 11, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
Unfortunately, Sam Bankman-Fried's views about compressing books in blog forms are shared by most youths of this generation. Most of them seem to be on the fast lane to achieve success without investing time in the foundational knowledge of a particular field or endeavor.

The information in books is usually diluted and one may see that reading is wasted time. It's a mistake often done in the current "era" of everything done in a haste.
But if one doesn't read the books... most often will miss some subtle information the book would be holding and, since he doesn't know about that, won't be able to find "the blog post" explaining it.

So blogs are great in retrieving information... after the books were read.

“I don’t want to say no book is ever worth reading, but I actually do believe something pretty close to that. … If you wrote a book, you f---ed up, and it should have been a six-paragraph blog post.”

So after a billions worth of fuckup (busted scam is also a fuckup, right?) he still considers himself very smart and keeps being cocky. Just beautiful.

Now, I have not lost any money to FTX, but I'm sure a lot of people reading this have, so justice is finally going to be served.

Me neither; but I will say "justice is finally going to be served" only after he really gets what he deserves. The frail steps forward are not that convincing yet.
1674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If someone sends you 10 bitcoin ? on: December 11, 2022, 11:29:19 AM
You can ask people whether they will be honest, they will surely say a big yes. But whether they will be honest or not will depend when you actually test them. Send 10 bitcoins to 100 random people

I'm not sure who could risk 10 BTC on this and I'm almost sure that whoever owns 10*100=1000 BTC is not spending (much) time on the forum, hence will miss your proposal Grin
However, very good point.
1675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If someone sends you 10 bitcoin ? on: December 11, 2022, 11:21:47 AM
which means we have to make sure whether BTC is genuine or fake

There's no such thing as fake bitcoin on the bitcoin's blockchain. As long as the coins were sent to your address and confirmed, they are genuine.

This poses another problem — how will you be approached by merely just knowing your bitcoin address? On Ethereum you can send messages on-chain and through sending an ENS domain, but as far as I know you can't do something similar on Bitcoin.

You're right. I should have been indeed thinking on this aspect too. If that will ever happen I will post about the coins received, about the sender address, my/receiving address and tx id. This should help anybody doing a web search on the matter find me here.
1676  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If someone sends you 10 bitcoin ? on: December 11, 2022, 10:52:43 AM
Well, for the sake of discussion, lets suppose someone sends you 10 bitcoins BTC by mistake. Now will you return them back ?
Morally, yes you should return them back but seeing this big money, greediness also can influence our decision.

So, everyone tells with honesty, if this ever happens in your life, what will you do ? Will you return them or will you change your fortune  Wink

It's actually a very tough question. At some point I was thinking that best solution is to send back the funds to the originator address.
But I was convinced that such a move can easily turn out to be stupid/bad. For example, what if that address is an address from a CEX completely unrelated to the person that has sent me those funds?

So... I would probably keep those funds untouched until I'm approached and convinced beyond doubt that the person approaching me is the one sending me those coins. If that happens I'll send them back. Of course if anybody is asking about that address of mine, I'll answer, helping the conversation take place.

While 10 BTC is a life changing amount for me, it's probably the same for the person that has done the mistake. I could not live with that on my conscience.
1677  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Wondering how much my account is worth ? on: December 11, 2022, 10:37:52 AM
We are talking about a well-known account that ran most (if not all) of the signature campaigns of that period.

My memory is not always very reliable, I don't remember him. Back then I was on yahoo's hands at Bitsler.

So the average user who posts in spam boards will not be noticed.

I would look from the other direction. Imho you have just proven that (indeed, late, but still) it has his chance to get noticed.
Even more, I think that if one wants to buy an account in order to earn money from the forum, his long term goal would be to become more than an average spam board user, hence the bought account may blow up in his face.

But I guess that you consider me too gullible in this matter. One may want to take chances, some may not. One may take my advice into account, some not. No biggie.
1678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Dec 2022] Mempool empty! Use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs! on: December 10, 2022, 05:21:42 PM
The mempool is already empty again.

There may be some delays since the last blocks were a bit fast (8 in an hour instead of the expected 6), but if one is not in a big hurry it's clearly a good moment for consolidating the inputs at 1 sat/vByte; as it's week-end, such transactions should be confirmed before tomorrow morning.
1679  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Coin mixing vs coin joining vs Monero converting on: December 10, 2022, 05:17:40 PM
Does it matter if they're public ips or using vpn?

Let's say you bought Bitcoin with KYC and withdrew. And let's say you use Electrum with public node.
Let's say that you mix the coins and receive bitcoin to address2. You open Electrum again.
The second Electrum server operator (if he wants to check the data) will know that address1 and address2 are from same wallet. If he sells this info to a chain analysis company that works together with the KYC exchange, they will know that's still you and your money, so your mixing was pointless.
And this happens no matter you've used clear net, VPN or Tor.

The only proper way to handle this is not not use public SPV servers nor blockchain explorers, instead install your own on top of your own bitcoin core.
1680  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Contest][ALT] Best portfolio 2023 on: December 10, 2022, 03:07:18 PM
I'll try my luck too:

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Binance coin42%https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb    #4
Monero42%https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero  #25
Dash11%https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dash  #75
Golem  5%https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/golem#139
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Good luck everybody.
Thanks Halab & Ratimov!
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