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1041  Other / Meta / Re: Ban evasion clarification! on: February 09, 2023, 10:07:47 AM
Well done @yahoo62278 for bringing this up. I've explained in his thread that he's wrong, I've tagged him and.. the rest is up to the mods.

I don't know how the evil fee related page looks like, maybe it worth taking a look onto it, maybe it needs some information added to avoid this kind of confusion (which, as I wrote there too, may or may not be on purpose).
1042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC fights thread (predictions + money back guarantee) on: February 09, 2023, 09:55:10 AM
Addressing the ban evasion, When I registered today, I paid 10$ for the register account fee for bitcoin talk. bitcointalk got my IP.
I got banned before. When I pay again, the ban is canceled.

You've misunderstood what you paid for (whether by mistake or willingly, it doesn't matter here).
You've paid for lifting a restriction on an IP, not for lifting a ban against you, as person.

This means that the IP is free to use, but you are still banned.
1043  Economy / Reputation / Re: Discrimination against bounty hunters on: February 09, 2023, 09:42:12 AM
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.

Your "submission" is, first of all, a wall of text. If you want to be taken seriously you should start with making posts that can be read effortlessly.

Then, your premises are incorrect. The fact that it's especially lower rank members jumping in without second thought into bounties is their own fault. If they would not be so keen to see posting as a means of income and just use the forum as a forum (and see the income for their posts as a bonus) then everything would be better. But that comes with experience, and with experience the better rank also is there.

So imho the participants are looked down upon because of their own behavior.
Plus, it's not the bounty managers those who bring new bounties. It's the various projects and businesses. The bounty managers only manage all that.
You have so many questions it's difficult to answer them all. I wish the bounty hunters come to their senses someday and think before joining to campaigns. Maybe some campaign managers will have tough days for a while, but afterwards the things may get better: better managers, meaningful payments, better rules too ... because I expect huge levels of meaningless posts in those campaigns.

Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim.

I've seen plenty of meaningful discussions without being technical. The fact you don't see that, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
This being said, I think that your... proposals are based on incorrect fundaments, but I admit, I didn't read carefully every word you've written.

Plus, I don't understand your problem:
* Is it that some bounty hunters are not being accepted to campaigns? Well, maybe better ones got accepted and the (limited!) places got filled?
* Is it that they spam too much? Report the spam at sight!
* Is it that some bounty hunters or bounty managers see this as a daily job? It's a risk they take and it can easily turn bad. But it's their choice.


This is a forum. You know, a place people discuss.. preferably about bitcoin and altcoins. Somehow far too many keep forgetting that... sadly.
1044  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A reminder to all new Bitcoin investors on: February 08, 2023, 08:08:16 PM
New thing is not guaranteed to replace the old thing just because it's new. I can demonstrate the absurdity of this narrative by pointing out that every of the thousands of altcoins claims that it's going to replace Bitcoin soon. And yet they don't, just like Bitcoin is not replacing banks.

You're right, but only partly.
While Bitcoin will not replace the commercial banks and even more I think that sooner or later those will offer Bitcoin-related products - exchange, investment and maybe reserve too - (some already started on that path), Bitcoin does have the potential to render useless the central banks. Of course, we are very far from that (globally), still, it is possible.
1045  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: All you need to know about Mixer before using it on: February 08, 2023, 07:58:29 PM
Thanks for the honest review about content.

It was by far not a review of what you wrote, I am sure that you still have mistakes there, some are getting pointed out I see. But no problem, if you pay attention to what people will say and you'll adjust your post accordingly, you'll get it right after some time. After all, it's a learning curve also for you.

Some possibly interesting points:
* Chipmixer is donation based, so if one reads the FAQ he can easily mix his coins for free (only tx fees to pay)
* Centralized mixers are trust based - from the trust they'll give your money back to the trust they don't keep logs. Also, it's good to know that some mixers' web page is behind CloudFlare and even if they don't keep logs, CloudFlare will probably do.
1046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: All you need to know about Mixer before using it on: February 08, 2023, 07:37:15 PM
If there are more, do let me know.

This kinda saved you  Wink
How you managed to miss the mixer that's most well known on the forum, ChipMixer?
It's the most reputed mixer, just one has to beware of the fake clones and go to the onion link from the signature(s) or from the ANN
Please add it to the list, it worth it.
1047  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊🦊3 YEARS🦊🦊🦊 (203 weeks) rented out] on: February 08, 2023, 06:28:23 PM
Thanks again for your flawless timing!

Sorry to interrupt all the talks about Bonbon L, but it's time for some weekly time travel.

Aaaand... Foxpup's not-so-well-oiled time machine tricked you again into being too early  Grin
However, after being sometimes way too late, it wort pointing out your punctuality this time. Wink
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can we experience $80k this year? on: February 08, 2023, 06:25:40 PM
Since the year started with a good results by moving from $20k to $24k this year

As said, you've started with inaccuracies. Even more, the tiny 4k movement means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Just look at the whole price chart.

because, the price of BTC will surely reach $80k before the end of this year 2023.
Are you sure investors will experience $80 this year?

So you fist say that people should take advantage of the low price because it'll rise to 80k... then kinda ask us if it's (surely) so?
No, I'm not sure of any price level for Bitcoin. And, to go on the actual speculation area, I don't even expect 80k this year. I would be happy even with 50k. The 80k I expect for next year though. But again, what I expect and what will happen... those may be wildly different things.

So it's nice to tell people be careful and don't miss the train, but on the other hand make sure you remind them only invest what they afford to lose, else if tomorrow the price will go a tad lower, they'll already panic and sell.
1049  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: February 08, 2023, 05:03:17 PM
Pai la asta ma refeream si eu -- macar de-am reusi sa platim arenda / chiria / ce-o fi cu bitcoin; cel caruia-i platim sa cumpere de la noi ceva tot cu bitcoin si asa mai departe. Macar la scara mica de-am reusi si tot ar fi bine. Dar nu prea reusim nici asta.

Problema mea este ca atata timp cat noi stam doar in bula noastra, nu o sa reusim sa il convingem pe gradinar sa se uite la bitcoin. Doar daca fiu-sau sau nepotul il vor convinge.. adica incet, tarziu, vai de noi...

Raspunsul (trist) s-ar putea afla in ceea ce acrisesem ca o anticipatie, in postarea mea anteriara. Mai precis, ar putea-o face fix pentru a da o lovitura finala intregului sistem crypto. Desigur, daca ajung si capii lumii sa realizeze ca astfel ar putea, in sfarsit, centraliza tot. Poate ca nu-si vor da seama insa...

Cred ca e cu doua taisuri. Bitcoin poate sa devina un sistem de plati superb, dar nu cred ca asta se poate intampla in mod anonim. Este o lovitura data intregului sistem? Discutabil...
Da, este o lovitura sub centura tuturor celor care doresc sa ramana anonimi si sa nu isi bage guvernul nasul unde nu-i fierbe oala. Dar vasta majoritate ar considera asta un succes.
Iar ca pas 2, in functie de implementarea sistemului de plati cu bitcoin, se va putea renunta la moneda (si banca!) nationala samd.

Iar cei care detin mii / milioane de BTC, din timpuri ancestrale, vor fi nevoiti sa transfere fondurile pe cardurile de debit. Si, cum prin crearea cardurilor trc prin KYC, vor trece prin KYC toate acele milioane de monede, in functie de cat va cheltui fiecare...

Voi trece cu vederea peste faptul ca actualele carti de debit crypto nu platesc cu crypto, ci cu fiat (se converteste crypto in fiat in momentul platii sau, in multe cazuri, chiar mai inainte) si voi considera ca vor deveni instrumente de plata cu Bitcoin...
Atunci, da, in teorie, se poate ce zici tu.

Cred ca ar putea rezolva problema foarte simplu: doar cine merge la casa de marcat cu un card de debit crypto va putea plati cu crypto. Adica iti vor interzice, pur si simplu, sa platesti cu telefonul. Avand card inseamna automat ca ai trecut prin KYC. Deci esti "eligibil", in ochii guvernului (si, implicit, in ochii magazinului, care se va conforma legii). Nu ai card de debit crypto? Nu poti plati. Si cardurile de debit crypto au aparut de mult... Probabil ca se vor limita sa le accepte doar pe marii industriasi - Visa, Mastercard si alte cateva si asta e tot - voila Smiley

Am lasat asta la sfarsit fiindca nu cred ca va merge. Azi lumea prefera sa plateasca cu telefonul, plata cu cardul nici macar nu mai e la moda. Asa afla si Apple/Google/... si Visa, si banca pe unde ai mai umblat. Lumea doreste sa faca totul din telefon sau bratara inteligenta. Deci eliminarea platii cu telefonul (inclusiv din portofel bitcoin) nu cred ca va merge.
Si nici nu cred ca trebuie insistat. In 1-2 generatii cam toti bitoinii din circulatie tot vor ajunge sub umbrela KYC.
Vorba lui Agent Smith: it's inevitable.
1050  Economy / Economics / Re: The lies about "If invested $1000 during IPO for MSFT you would have made $1.6m" on: February 08, 2023, 04:41:35 PM
let’s do some simple maths.
...
$1000 times 20,000,000 investor, capital would be sum up to $20 billions...
...
$1.6m times 20,000,000 investor,
$32,000,000,000,000! $32 trillions!

When I look at the market cap of the Microsoft today it’s just worth some $3.2 trillions. Which is 90% shortfalls!

Well, this is not how this math was done. Just google a little for it. For example one thing you've missed from your calculations was the stock splits (plus you may have wrongly assumed that all the initial investors would buy 1000$ worth of shares)

Had you invested $1,000 in Microsoft at its IPO, you would have acquired 47 shares at $21 per share. Adjusting for the stock splits, you'd actually have 13,536 shares today with a cost basis of $0.0729 per share.

Given Microsoft now trades at $238.73 per share, that translates to a return of 327,401%.

In dollar terms, that $1,000 investment in 1986 would be worth a whopping $3.23 million today.

And you can add on top of this also the dividends.
Really, you could have been just researching a little before posting...
1051  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: February 08, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Si tot pe acelasi subiect, cred ca si campania de recenzii Betnomi este la fel de usoara pentru cine are chef si timp (adica se pot vedea multe fara sa faci KYC si fara sa depui bani).

Ah, da? Eu credeam ca e musai cu KYC. In cazul acesta, poate o sa incerc sa arunc si eu o privire, in limita timpului disponibil. Merci ca mi-ai spus.

Na, trebuie sa iti placa sa joci, ca altfel sunt sanse ca recenzia sa fie ignorata. Cel putin asta scrie in prima postare.
Dar:
* foarte multe jocuri se pot juca cu bani-fara-valoare emisi de cazinou
* iti poti face o impresie destul de clara fara sa joci la toate jocurile
* eu am avut si acel pariu gratuit, e adevarat, dar cred ca tot ai ce scrie, chiar mai mult decat au scris altii
* daca tii neaparat sa depui, poti juca si pe bani, iar la sume mici de retras probabil ca nu se vor incurca sa iti ceara KYC (totusi recomand sa incerci intai ce poti incerca gratis)
* inca nici macar nu s-au rezervat (ce sa vorbim de scris recenziile) cele 50 de locuri initiale pentru recenzii, iar cele 2 saptamani in care se asteptau sa primeasca recenziile au trecut (iti recomand totusi sa iti rezervi un loc inainte sa te apuci sa te uiti pe acolo)

Nu ar strica totusi mentionat ca eu inca nu am fost platit pentru acea recenzie...
1052  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: February 08, 2023, 04:13:44 PM
De fapt da si nu chiar. Cred ca Satoshi si-ar fi dorit ca intr-o zi cu soare sa ajungem sa putem cumpara linistit cu Bitcoin, direct, orice dorim.

Stiu si eu... Sincer, nu cred ca Satoshi si-a imaginat cu adevarat ca inventia lui va fi folosita peste tot in lume, la casele de marcat, PoS-uri etc. Eu unul cred ca s-a gandit / a sperat mai mult ca oamenii sa poata face tranzactii macar intre ei -- oamenii normali, oamenii "de rand". Adica nu cred ca s-a gandit si la persoanele juridice; cel putin nu la scara larga. Cred ca a vrut ca gradinarul sa poata plati arenda trerenului cu bitcoin; arendasul sa incaseze bitcoin de la gradinar si, la randul sau, sa-i plateasca cu bitcoin legumele pe care le cumpara... Si, macar de-ar fi asa, si tot ar fi bine!

Pai bun, dar si asta ar fi tot plata directa cu bitcoin pentru orice. S-ar incadra. Problema e ca (o sa raman pe exemplul tau) noi inca mergem sa vindem bitcoin pentru lei ca sa-i dam gradinarului acei lei... Iar el plateste arenda in lei. Adica noi in bula noastra, iar ei tot cu fiat-ul lor, tot cu inflatie si toate cele.

Deci sa tranzactionam astfel... doar fiat vs bitcoin... e departe de a fi optim.

Ar fi bine pentru pastrarea intimitatii, dar... cam atat...

Pai... dat fiind ca platile crypto nu au fost (inca) implementate la scara larga si sa reusim sa ne pastram intimitatea e ceva.

Eu cred ca e prea putin. Si daca mergem in aceasta directie s-ar putea sa nu implementeze niciodata platile crypto. De ce ar face-o, daca noi suntem mai mult decat fericiti cu fiat-ul lor?

Si, ma gandesc uneori, daca se vor implementa aceste plati crypto la scara larga (gen ce intentioneaza sa faca Jack Mallers), tare imi e teama ca se vor impune niste legi prin care nu vei putea face plati anonime. In sensul ca, ma gandesc, vor emite niste legi prin care sa fie acceptate doar platile cu carti de debit crypto, nu si din portofelul personal detinut pe telefon. Si, daca va fi asa, va fi teribil. Pe de-o parte, crypto va fi utilizat in toata lumea dar, pe de alta parte, guvernele se pot folosi de asta pentru cea mai mare lovitura data utilizatorilor: sa le impuna carti de debit (care, implicit, inseamna KYC). Si, cum spiritul de turma are influente enorme, 90% o sa se buluceasca sa aiba astfel de carti de debit, moment in care guvernele ar centraliza crypto complet aproape complet. Sper sa ma insel insa.

Din pacate cred ca spre asta se merge. Si s-ar putea ca Satoshi sa fi stiut asta, ca altfel inventa ... Monero  Cheesy  Dar el a lasat totul la vedere.
Partea cu neacceptarea portofelului personal nu cred ca va tine. Adica ce o sa faca cei care au mii si milioane de bitcoin dinaintea aparitiei acelor legi?! Plus, ar fi o logistica impresionanta ca doar platile din partea anumitor adrese (sau zPub?) sa fie acceptate. Nu cred ca se vor complica in asemenea hal.
Dar da, vor urmari toate tranzactiile, chiar mai abitir decat se face acum cu cardurile de fiat.
1053  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can this forum be targetted? on: February 08, 2023, 01:34:19 PM
With a strategy to stop the growth of bitcoins by reducing the community behind it, Is it possible that the government (say a collective effort by them all) target bitcointalk since it is the largest community bitcoin has(I think), to stop the activities of forum members from staying together to ensure that this community is disbanded?

Nothing is impossible, although banning a forum/website of basically geeks discussing doesn't look like an useful move and they may need solid legal ground for it.
And if they take down this forum, people will find out soon enough from Twitter, Nostr and the huge number of Telegram channels what would be the new platform they can gather.
So it would be only a temporary setback.

I think that:
1. You may have the impression that this community is bigger and more important than it is.
2. The crypto related noise on Twitter, for example, is much more visible and much more toxic imho; that could be a much easier and much more likely target.
1054  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What Does it Mean to DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH(DYOR)? on: February 08, 2023, 01:28:26 PM
- What does it  mean it actually mean to DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH?

Read as much as you can from multiple sources (including questions on the forum), get to understand which information is reliable, synthetize all of this into the answers you need.

- What are the steps to start to take? Technical analysis? Fundamental analysis? Sentimental analysis?

Depending for what.
Is this for trading? Then understand that TA alone is never enough, get prepared for big sudden changes in any direction.
Is this for investing? Then learn to look at the big picture and to ignore the noise. Also learn about patience and trust. And clearly, understand what Bitcoin is about.
Is this for something else? Since Bitcoin is not only about trading, investing, spending...

- How did you or do you DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ?

Many hours on the forum. Plus a lot of googling, reading around and YouTube too.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bounty really pay? on: February 08, 2023, 12:16:42 PM
Sometimes I find myself being added to Telegram groups where they are doing bounty campaigns for new coins but at the end of the day, people will start complaining that the project is dead. In most cases I exited from the groups immediately I find myself there because I feel they are prone to defrauding people.
This makes me to wonder if bounties really pay.

It heavily depends on the bounty and the bounty manager (that's why bounties on bitcointalk are somewhat safer than the ones on Telegram).
Clearly there are many projects that don't intend to pay, hence only the ones with escrowed funds or reputable bounty managers worth any attention.
Then, no matter how good they pay, you bear a huge risk anyway because they most probably pay with their own coin/token which in most cases will never become valuable.

So yes, if you already have that feeling, flee as soon as you can and don't look back.
And as others said, in the vast majority of cases you'll do free advertising, since you'll end up with nothing or with nothing valuable.
1056  Economy / Economics / Re: Open AI CEO says his tech is poised to "break capitalism" on: February 07, 2023, 09:10:37 PM
They're early yet and one will still need to understand what AI have done in order to tell the job was done correctly or not. So the jobs are not at an imminent risk... yet.

But on long term.. just imagine a script kiddie just asks AI to write him quickly a malware or a hack. Or the secretary asks AI to make a malware she can plant easily on her boss' computer.
I mean that these guys are not far from truth: this easy access to information at such a high level can open Pandora's box.
No matter how skilled somebody is, AI will fill the gaps. And this can be used easier for evil than for good.
1057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is Bitcoin? openAI ChatGPT edition on: February 07, 2023, 08:58:02 PM
The AI should be smart enough to know that the definition should be based on the whole system and not just the currency, as simple as this: Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer electronic cash system. Followed by with an inbuilt currency called bitcoin..

The AI is still learning. And Bitcoin is highly complex, actually. I think that is still gives not-so-bad explanations (not definition). Far from perfect, but not bad.

Nobody should ever trust the AI. It's actually not a good AI.

The point of AI is to (ever) learn. And we, bitcoiners, should know best how this is: AI is still early (sounds familiar?)

Clearly, the answers of now are, by far, not to be trusted. It's risky to rely only on that.
On the other hand:
* most people don't care of bitcoin more than what's in ChatGPT's answer(s)
* it's impressive that it didn't go by the official/newspaper-like narrative (scam, ponzi, overly risky, drug money, ... name it); keep in mind that the system is trained to the data up to.. 2 years ago?
1058  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: February 07, 2023, 08:31:37 PM
Incerc, pe cat posibil, sa am grija si de viata mea  Roll Eyes Uite, pe 3 ianuarie mi-am reinnoit abonamentul la sala pe 3 luni  Grin

Bravo!

Pur si simplu a fost o conjunctura potrivita Smiley

Wow, tot nu as fi avut rabdarea ta... Plus ca si daca as avea 100 de zile de stat smirna la calculator, as avea 1001 de chestii de facut (ramase ca le-oi face "candva") de care sa ma apun inainte sa ma ocup de spam la asemenea nivel.
Da, cand nimeresc peste spam si alte postari dubioase in frunzarirea de zi cu zi a forumului, sigur ca le raportez. Dar sa ma arunc benevol intr-o "mare de spam" nu as face, nu stiu daca mi-ar face bine  Cheesy

Clar ce ai realizat este i m p r e s i o n a n t !



Inapoi la topic: am participat si la campania de recenzii Utopia. Multumesc ca ai adus-o in atentia noastra! Este o platforma interesanta... si au fost niste banuti usori.
Si tot pe acelasi subiect, cred ca si campania de recenzii Betnomi este la fel de usoara pentru cine are chef si timp (adica se pot vedea multe fara sa faci KYC si fara sa depui bani).
1059  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Should BTC amounts greater than 10.000E be declared when leaving the country? on: February 07, 2023, 08:20:56 PM
at first, I ignored them, thinking they are beggars  Cheesy (Yes, seriously!) But they came after me. Seeing they insist I thought they need some assistance and I told myself to hear them out. I asked 3 times the guy to repeat himself until I understood what he was saying: "Police airport, follow us please""

O...my.. god.... LOL!!!!

And, after all this procedure ended, they told me I looked suspicious because I was returning home with 3 planes, instead of 1 or 2 (facepalm). And I was almost losing my plane because of them!

Actually I've seen this logic (at Discovery Channel or similar) on Airport Security related shows and the logic is that if you change too many planes or you stay only a day at a vacation place you're automatically suspicious (because the detour/extra stops may mean you meet some dealers).

However, one can easily keep his seed phrase safely and separately and he can avoid surprises until the legislation becomes clearer.

Do you think such ambiguous legislation will be updated soon...?

Well, "soon" is a relative term. But in 10-15 years we should have it.  Grin Maybe earlier, who knows? Grin
1060  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: February 07, 2023, 03:41:12 PM
Lasand gluma la o parte, se pare ca ajungem ca tranzactiile fata in fata sa fie cele mai OK.

Daca este asa, atunci vom ajunge sa ne comportam asa cum a prevazut (si si-a dorit) Satoshi:

Quote
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party. [...]

We very, very much need such a system

Ceea ce nu ar fi un lucru rau.

De fapt da si nu chiar. Cred ca Satoshi si-ar fi dorit ca intr-o zi cu soare sa ajungem sa putem cumpara linistit cu Bitcoin, direct, orice dorim.
Deci sa tranzactionam astfel... doar fiat vs bitcoin... e departe de a fi optim.

Ar fi bine pentru pastrarea intimitatii, dar... cam atat...
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