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31m is nothing for a hack and will make no difference ... i notice all the sk exchanges are getting hacked lately.
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this is obviously being held down now after so much good news lately anyway ...... although when they are ready to let it rise and push it up that will be a nice little ride waiting to happen.
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To me I think personally, this won't work. It will increase the chaos already as many people will be farming for more merit just to get to 100+ and keep opening new topics. And also as someone has mentioned the payment for at least copper member being inexpensive, a lot of persons will simply go ahead to make the payments and keep opening new topics. I think the Mods should monitor and close non relevant threads. Demerit will defi be abused should it ever be put in place
That too is not a good option. I think thread locking should be a better approach.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. 1. increase the chaos where? (certainly not on the main boards) what chaos of merit farming? keep opening new topics? none of this is going to a/ be any easier than just going to the main board and posting? it all sounds a lot of hassle and there are a lot of points of failure for them to achieve any of this. I'm not sure who will award them merit for any of these tactics. This is like saying it is pointless to put your money in a safe at your home because people will if they want to enough bring explosives or a digger to open it or take it a way with part of your home. Even shutting the front door and vetting who has access is a waste of time just leave the door open and throw your valuables all over the entrance floor. It is simply a way of making it more difficult to ruin the main board with ico spam and bots. It is rewards vs all the hassle that will be the thing that deters them. Right now they have no hassle just open a new account start filling the main boards with spam and nonsense bot jabber. 2. the mods have no chance of monitoring all threads on here and closing those that are unsuitable there are simply too many threads. Demerit is for mods alone if they abuse it openly then I am sure a global mod can be alerted. Noob jail was only removed because of the volume ... this is noob jail with decentralised moderation by all those with smerit. I think smerit should be for heros and legends only who have something to lose by trying to game the system. |
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Of course, the forum should put restrictions for users who are spamming this place. But making a rule in general for all members is not right in my opinion. I mean why punish all members for the spam caused by a handful of a members.
In my opinion, the limit to create certain number of threads in a day should be there. Usually , on small forums the staff is able to notice themselves if some user does this. But there is so much activity here, that is it almost impossible to spot all such users manually. If possible, reports should be sent to the staff once a member crosses that number of posts in certain time frame to check this.
1. There is no punishment you can post on the junior boards 2. It is not a handful of members it is an army of bots and new members who dont follow or attempt to follow the rules. |
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well since we have had no reasonable argument to suggest this is a bad idea then I think we should push ahead with it asap
how to get this implemented asap?
briefly scanning the main alt board and looking at the merit of the thread starters I notice we can cut away 90%+ of the same ico pumping, shilling, bot threads being started
the questions that are not outright spam and shilling are mostly ridiculous for a main alt board and are asked over and over again.
the sooner we have junior and senior boards the better it will be for bct
if we fail to isolate some REAL good reasons not to implement this then it should be put into action as soon as possible to stop the board becoming unusable
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are not just travelling with your private key? that will let you access your crypto which is totally decentralised globally
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Have a read of this chat log from the EOS Block Producer Telegram: https://pastebin.com/wD7V4EU5Pay special attention to the part where they agree to just print more tokens for themselves as needed. Why would anyone with any sense invest in EOS? good question |
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change title because people thought this was an old thread an no longer valid
this thread will always be valid as long as we add new projects that meet the criteria in the op
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This guy will immediately close bitcointalk tab and post on reddit. He will be answered in reddit immediately and will never come to bitcointalk again.
There are both merits and demerits to making restrictions for new users on nay platform.The staff has to make final decision after evaluating everything. Having a limit for new members like x number of posts a day (initially) is however sufficient for a genuine member in my opinion. Limiting to x posts per day on the main board will not suffice since bots and spammers will just make more accounts and the board will still move as fast as it does now with 99% junk ico speculation. This makes it impossible for good threads to get any foothold and spark up good discussions like before. Also spam PM need attention i am getting too many of these shits now too. Should be no warnings just ban these spammers offering to pm thousands of members and so many 1000 promotion posts from their bots. |
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Just throwing this in here to spark some discussion. I've been following your thread from the beginning and have learned a lot. With the criteria you designated, you have highlighted some excellent alts that are truly worth believing in. But may I respectfully say that perhaps one other criteria should have been added to your list: solid/concerted effort to market the alt to investors.
It's an unfortunate truth that with the lack of awareness of what these alts can bring to the table, they could fade into obscurity. Meanwhile, crap, flash alts make a killing because they pumped most of their money into marketing rather than actually developing their products. My point is, can you really call an alt a REAL prospect if it never really achieves its full potential due to a lack of investor interest?
You are 100% correct. However if I were to add this criteria then I would need to remove a good many of these solid alts and which would mean they have even less chance of being noticed in the sea of dreams and talk shit projects that are in the spot light due to investor ignorance and shrewd marketeers with no coding and design skills. I believe we must rely on investors wising up since the best coders and developers seem to be dreadful at marketing with the exception of perhaps eth and a couple of others that have already hit the big time. |
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none keep your eth
or
convert to btc and keep that
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I will tell you something I just thought that will show how this idea would be bad for the forum and to the newbies.
Imagine someone who has a legit question, someone who doesn't even know this bounty/spammers world exists.
He writes on Google something like "how to recover a wallet from Electrum"
He sees two main websites, bitcointalk and reddit. He immediately open two tabs, one for each.
This guy comes here, creates an account, and try to find the right board for his question. He clicks new topic and he sees a message saying he can't post there. He can only post in the newbies session.
This guy will immediately close bitcointalk tab and post on reddit. He will be answered in reddit immediately and will never come to bitcointalk again.
Later on, because reddit is filled with altcoins shilling, he "discovers" bitcoin is a shitcoin with old technology and sells all his btc and buys bch, nano, iota etc...
And spammers will continue spamming here because they already have old accounts and nobody reports them.
This person will find the right board because altcoin - senior board altcoin - junior board bitcoin senior board bitcoin junior board it will not be difficult for him to locate the board for him to ask new questions on. most spam is coming from very low merit very low rank accounts........ the bots are on zero merit mostly because they either copy and paste other posts or post out of context nonsense. spammers using accounts that are still able to post on the senior boards will be moderated manually once you get rid of the huge proportion of new accounts posting trash for cash |
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I do not follow this logic... that is not to say I am correct and that you are wrong. I am always happy to discuss and learn and change my opinion.
They can still ask these questions on the junior boards. Those even attempting to join in and contribute to legitimate and worthy discussions can be given merit. I would find going there browsing through a selection of good threads, then meriting those making real effort to help or even joining in conversations of worth and interest far more rewarding than reporting 100 spammers, ico bots, post pasting bots and then the mods have to confirm and delete and take action. This is a wasteful and unpleasant process and it is also a very centralised bottlenecked process at the mod level if doing it this way. It is also a very negative thing to report person compared to giving praise and merit.
You are not to expect highly detailed knowledge of conceptual design and coding from anyone on this board including legends of course only a willing and helpful attitude to contribute and converse with others.
I am not really complaining at the obvious tech brain drain and dilution since the days of hardcore bitcoiners - that was always going to happen. Let's be honest what percentage of the board actually would have the capacity to understand many of these designs at a deep math level. I don't think it's essential most need to understand at more than a very basic level. However the board is now nothing to do with the tech or about the aim of creating decentralised trustless networks... it is simply becoming a marketing board for icos through various posting techniques that make the board almost worthless to anyone other that to hammer the search function for specific details you may want to look up from years ago.
Having a sensible vetting period that is semi automated is the obvious choice. This will be a decentralised vetting process since those with the most merit to give will be free to peruse the junior boards and all be mods in a way.
You're sort of asking the newbie jail to be bought back. Stopping people to post in the main boards is not a good idea. Although you can still merit users in any board you want to. That is much better because more the boards, more the posts to merit.  I believe no one has so far liked this idea, it would be better for a better suggestion, a user friendly one, or you could just merit users, report a few and have good discussions, eh? Well let's be honest reading the replies from most it seems they are not getting what the idea exactly is. It seems they think they are getting all posting rights revoked. I think a vote from senior members and above might be quite a useful poll. Please validate why stopping people or bots having immediate posting rights on the main board without first demonstrating they are willing to be useful willing participants in the spirit of the board is a bad thing... Even though they will have immediate posting rights on a junior board where if they do prove to everyone with smerits to give that they are useful or even just willing to abide by the board rules ...then they will in a decentralised way be approved for starting topics on the main boards. There has been no better alternative offered and leaving it as it is now is just turning the board into 90% garbage actually more likely 95% They removed noob jail because it was not possible with the volume.... this is simply a noob jail that is able to cope with huge volume due to more or less decentralising the mod process. Like we said they dont need to give anonymint level posts or answers just show they are genuinely interested and helpful. |
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One of the most known and most respected accounts on the entire board. Nobody can sniff out and prove a scam like gleb. It would be pretty easy to test out if it was the real gleb or not. Also most people know what he looks like so a photo with a shoe on the head would be then end of the matter  |
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ripple is one of the most secure investments and promises if we invest long-term on this coin,
ripple is the only coin used by the bank and government, not impossible if the ripple will be great again
lol I can only hope this is some google translate glitch if I could demerit you i would If i could permaban you i would gladly |
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Community, As many know, we have a listing on Yobit exchange. We have not been advertising this as they have not updated their Bullion software in some time meaning Bullion cannot be withdrawn. This has caused downward pressure on the price as people have to sell their Bullion for other coins there if they want to withdraw funds. Also, the large volume of traders using their platform are essentially not able to trade Bullion. With our new V 3.0 release, the new codebase syncs and functions much better. We think this is our opportunity to make a push to get them to update and become a collaborative partner again. But we need the communities help with this. Please help by retweeting and liking: https://twitter.com/CBX_Bullionaire/status/1007643674463875072and https://twitter.com/CryptoBullionX/status/1007657823176740864Also, If you trade at Yobit, Please submit a ticket requesting them to update to the Vault 3.0 Thank you all for you help and support! I was thinking the exact same thing. I am sure they did not keep it live because it would crash a lot before but now it is all fixed and running very nicely I am sure they will update the wallet to the latest version .... or should we even wait for the masternodes update where they would have to update it for it to work as surely that will be an mandatory update? Love the new auto snapshot option for new users ... from 0 to fully synced up in a few mins really. Looks great. |
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before the new masternodes design is released are you going obfuscate the code so that it is open source but can not be cloned or not? I know a few projects doing this now. Seems a shame to put in all the work for it just to be copy and pasted by all the rest
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where is the link to the dnotes 2 wallet?
I sent mine to the dnotes vault for the auto swap to dnotes 2 but would like to get them back to a local wallet now?
I can't see the link in the OP?
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