I agree. Should be self moderated.

Mods here have been making some strange deletes lately if you ask me.

edit - - strange must have gone through first time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063402.0  

look at their post history

shill group needs to be stopped.

Don't reply to this thread unless you have read it properly. This is not about them spamming about sharding . This is about contrived fake conversations between those 3 to promote the same icos on the main alt board on many threads.

Also don't reply if you are usually some kind of pathetic turd that usually spends time picking on genuine accounts for nitpicking shit that is wasting time trying to elevate your low self esteem. Like ALONE055 who is a sad and pathetic loser or any other gimp here.

Real proven scam hunters only need feel the need to reply. Or just  not bother and let the thread die since if I report it here and those accounts continue on spamming and colluding to promote shit to noobs then that's as far as I can take it for now.

Actually also unless you joined before 2014 don't reply because it takes experience here to see the wood for the trees.

sharting is superior to sharding it's more decentralised and trustless

your mother might if you ask her nicely
also please learn the definition of spam.

Like running on about multiple scammy icos that I see you pushing with gregall and darylalban

I will flag you as a real shill and spammer.
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I just checked out this other scammer gregall ( on this thread also)  that appears to be pumping all the exact same projects as you are.

Anyone looking at these post histories can only conclude this is your alt.

So many spammers, shills and scammers on here.


ccryptopark and gregall and darylalban - you make it too easy to spot.

Here

hodler and still buying more now and then.

I invest more just because one of the only persons I know of that has a proven deep knowledge of CC told me that byteball was the one of the only projects that had interested him since bitcoin in a big way.

Tonych knows his stuff and perhaps so do these other ones but these are not people friendly and should be confined to working with machines only.

You need an interface between them and a community of people.

So nothing new then.
Thanks for wising up.

Ok adding them. If anyone thinks they should not be there then speak up with valid reasons.

Yes so this is kind of what i mean.

The original feather coin dev is gone i think.

Also with feather coin it could be hard to make a case that they ever did even one original modification to a ltc clone and therefore perhaps has no specific use case that is not covered by all or most other projects. So I would not care to take much note of them at this time.

Well unless you pay 2btc because that makes it more secure apparently.

The fact there is no notice given and immediate market freeze too makes it very dangerous to purchase low vol alts there.

I mean some of those do not have other exchange... like this one

So immediate freeze means almost immediate lock in to anything you have taken a punt on.

Not sure about that method over bittrexs method of announcing but leaving markets open for a month.

Think I prefer bittrexs method.

Look now,  it's better to admit you just hammer away on your keyboard without giving much thought to what you are writing. That is better than sticking to and try to defending the obviously insane ramblings that are there for anyone to laugh at. The fact you are unable to see why that paragraph is shocking is very worrying.

Let us hope your are "developing" the logo or something non critical that can be altered fairly easily.

To freeze genuine investors who purchased byteball on the open market ( i have purchased 10x more than i got for linking a small amount of btc) is not the same as freezing a HUGE amount of the total byteball that was given for FREE to a competing project manager for the bitcoin of others he was holding for the apparent development of his own competing project.

Tony did not allow this by accident. He was totally aware that competing project managers would link the dev fund wallets and suck up huge swathes of the total byteball minting because we brought it up before it went live.

At this time would it really be difficult for tony to collude with his 11 other personalities? especially if it was what that was what the community wanted.

I don't actually think it would be a great idea since we need to not pull any moves that crush the trust more for byteball. It would just be another change that should not happen.

It would be great to consult the community on big changes like stopping full moon air drops and such. These kinds of decisions are actually better made with vast agreement since otherwise the community loses faith.

I think it is better than tonych does not allow you to post further because your posts seem to confirm the suspicions of the remaining community: that the devs here believe a community should just be ready for any kinds of 180 changes whether good or bad for them regardless of what has been promised. Also the community should not question or raise any debate because only devs have the right to an opinion. Any complaints about not keeping to agreements is whining and fud.

I would keep "developing" the logo and get a new spokes person for byteball if you want any chance of gaining some traction.

I understand on deeper technical matters the community must not expect to have too much input. Although some decisions could be explained if people ask. However on simple matters that I have mentioned already there is no need for the communities opinions to be totally excluded.

Now stop replying to me unless you have something new to add. I can't waste time restating the obvious over and over and asking what is only reasonable and a given in most communities. You want a community to bring you a network effect then you need to treat the community (your investors) with some respect.

Regarding the 20-50x - That is depending on many factors but it is realistic for this to eventually become a top 20 project if a few things can be sorted out.

Let's take a vote to freeze that wallet, and any other huge wallets we know ico managers are holding.

Sure going back on the rules is something we have done before that affected lots of small investors was not cool so going back on the rules to rectify a huge mistake will soon blow over.

I could have linked much more btc to get free byteballs but only linked a tiny amount to not be greedy. Others had no such worries. You can not rely on peoples sense of fair play. They just take the max they can.

Anyway let's all try to get along and not let infighting destroy the community further.

Just in future let's debate any sensible requests from the community that gets some traction with others here.

Look the fact you said this shows me I am dealing with a completely insane individual.

Byteball gave the vast majority of Byteball to the ALREADY RICHEST GUYS THE GUYS THAT HAD ALREADY THE MOST BITCOINS. The tiny % left is not going to change that.

I am not trying to destroy the price of byteball. I own a lot of byteball.

The suggestions I have ever made are for the good of byteball. To try a pass them as fud is complete insanity.

Let's forget the issue with the distribution it is over and we can not change it.

Let's forget the issue with lying to byteball investors about full moon airdrops. It is done.

Let's consider changing the units on exchanges to megabytes before the next bull run and next wave of noobs telling us byteball is too expensive and we will buy cheaper iota.


Let's try and consider and debate in a sensible way any future suggestions from the community that seem logical and are favoured by a proportion of the community and not just ignore them.

I am confident in this project pulling a x20 -x50 if we can make a few small changes and improvments.

just shouts opinions of how things should be done??

1. the full moon airdrops were what many investors based their investment on. Asking them to continue as promised is not shouting opinions like shouting out random uneducated requests regarding technical matters beyond their understanding. This has destroyed faith in the project.

2. saying don't knowing give HUGE amounts of the entire minting to ico managers from competing projects - same as above

3. noticing swathes of noobs in threads everywhere calling byteball expensive and iota cheap is again simply an observation.

Don't try to claim that reasonable,sensible and logical statements/requests are nothing other that people and screaming random opinions with no foundations worth a debate.

the fact you would try to call them fud is even more amusing.

Go fork your own project is not what you say to a community after receiving their support for years.

The fact someone gave you a merit for such a reply is a demonstration of person lacking basic understanding of english. You can not merit someone for posting totally false and misleading nonsense.

There are many projects with very good community managers and board managers. The fact they can get along with bitcointalk but you can not - - then perhaps you should look at yourselves not point fingers at a dissatisfied community.

I notice the only projects that start complaining about the behaviour of their communities on bitcointalk are those that follow the same pattern of changing the rules half way through and not listening at all to feedback from the community.

That's good news on that front anyway. However I think cryptopia just said that because they wanted rid of low volume coins.
They offered phs a 2 bitcoin relist. Lol why do that if it was being insecure that was the issue.
Besides phs has a very high pos rate and that keeps a lot of people staking so I doubt it was easy to attack.

I know you are known as a skilled developer so perhaps appealing to the masses by forking something considered blockchain 2.0 or 3.0 and doing a coin swap of hal and pxc for it could work well to generate more interest.

BBR and Aeon only ones there that I recognise as being legit long term projects

this place is adding coins to emblemvault for free right now.

might be something to look at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652345.0

DEX is the only real way forward and is the natural progression.

I'm counting on blocknet or komodo for this.

We will wait and see.

Is there any update on the idea of combining hal and pxc into one new updated and exciting project that may be of interest to new crypto enthusiasts?

I would work fast though I heard the new management at cryptopia are kicking off low volume coins under the guise of them being insecure

Without cryptopia that would not be too good for these 2 projects.

What you wish is of no matter to the project really. What the majority wish for is far more important.

When a significant proportion of the community are asking for things that are ignored without a debate then that is damaging to the community.

The fact you are wishing for the community to leave for other projects because they are disturbed by the fact tony does not listen to the very reasonable requests of many here and will not even offer debate is a sign that you are not suitable to interact as the community manager. In fact with this attitude I would say your connection to the project is very damaging.

When people brand things as FUD when they are actually  observable events where they demonstrate that the team fucked up you know there is an issue.

Bitcointalk is a place where you can't downvote and silence people that easily.

I see no FUD in what I presented to you. Let's hear your side. I await with interest when people want to convince others that presenting observable events is FUD.


If you are the new spokesman for byteball then this is a step back from Tonych just ignoring valid points.

Whining ... I hear this word a lot when those making poor decisions are explaining to investors why they must pay for their gross errors of judgment.

Noob trash, even coders have no experience with bitcointalk's community and if you are thinking you can leave and build echo chambers and circle jerk each other off and build a network effect anything like you can at bitcointalk you are again wrong. This is the jumping ground for new crypto investors. So master building a community here or whither and die elsewhere.

DAG is not the buzz term it once was so byteball will have to actually out perform other projects in real functional terms to get ahead now.

If you really are part of the byteball team you need to realise your comments are here for good and therefore it is best not to put the byteball team in a bad light.

I have first hand experience on telling him 100x at the start of this project not to knowingly allow huge swathes of this to go for free into the hands of other ico mangers

Sadly now these competitors had huge bags of free byteball we had to stop the airdrops to those that INVESTED in buying byteball on the basis of getting the free airdrops. This destroyed trust further.

I have seen multiple people call for a change in the exchange unit to megabyte so that the huge group of people that are under the impression that byteball was too expensive to risk investing so went with the far cheaper iota.

I leave the design to the experts like tony. The obvious things that damage the project that could be changed quite simply he does not listen to at all.

"There are plenty of people with their own opinion how things should be in cryptoverse. None of the projects need people like that, only people who make things happening are needed"

Wrong again. The plenty are always needed in some way else you will get no network effect a be relegated to page 10 on cmc.

You simply need a leadership who can bring the plenty around to their way of thinking. On the deeper technical aspects it is not essential the plenty understand what is beyond their scope. However on other more straight forward matters discussion is required to build a strong community. Without that then it is highly unlikely you will get the network effect required to become relevant here. When a community feels it is ignored it will move away to other projects.

I like tony and he seems very honest and hardworking. He should employ a good community manager whom can interface with him and the community.